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Old 10-21-2009, 08:51 PM   #101
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Old 10-21-2009, 09:24 PM   #102
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As the fall of the music industry, movies, software, among many others, piracy, porn certainly fall as well, by piracy and free content, coupled with the economic crisis is devastating.
Anyway don't go down our arms and keep working!
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:42 AM   #104
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As the fall of the music industry, movies, software, among many others, piracy, porn certainly fall as well, by piracy and free content, coupled with the economic crisis is devastating.
Anyway don't go down our arms and keep working!
I am certain that your statement is meant to be positive and motivational, and thank you for that, but just out of curiosity, what does "don't go down our arms" mean?
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:43 AM   #105
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i agree. don't go down our arms. best advice in this thread.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:20 PM   #106
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:40 PM   #107
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Wtf's happening ? For the past 4 days it's really really bad here !
Shit, it gets worst and worst month after month.
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Old 10-22-2009, 02:56 PM   #108
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Wtf's happening ? For the past 4 days it's really really bad here !
Shit, it gets worst and worst month after month.
Basic economics 101... people do not pay for what they can get for free, especially when times are tough.

Coca Cola's bottled water used to sell okay, but now that times are tough people are going back to tap, so the water division of Coca Cola is now tanking.

Can't afford the porn you really want - then you will get by okay with the porn offered for free via the tubes (and torrents, password forums, file share sites, etc.).

Unless SOMETHING changes, things will definitely get worse... guaranteed!

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Basic economics 101... people do not pay for what they can get for free, especially when times are tough.

Coca Cola's bottled water used to sell okay, but now that times are tough people are going back to tap, so the water division of Coca Cola is now tanking.

Can't afford the porn you really want - then you will get by okay with the porn offered for free via the tubes (and torrents, password forums, file share sites, etc.).

Unless SOMETHING changes, things will definitely get worse... guaranteed!
Amen!!

I'm, glad there is still one person left with a brain on GFY!
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:25 PM   #111
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October is looking fucking good so far.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:37 PM   #112
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Basic economics 101... people do not pay for what they can get for free, especially when times are tough.

Coca Cola's bottled water used to sell okay, but now that times are tough people are going back to tap, so the water division of Coca Cola is now tanking.

Can't afford the porn you really want - then you will get by okay with the porn offered for free via the tubes (and torrents, password forums, file share sites, etc.).

Unless SOMETHING changes, things will definitely get worse... guaranteed!

Basic economics.....

Money = High Speed Internet
No Money = No Internet Access

Low on Money = Slower Internet Access = Less Surfing = No Buying Porn
Free Internet = No Porn

Which basic economics do you want to cover?
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:44 PM   #113
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Unless SOMETHING changes, things will definitely get worse... guaranteed!
If something has to change, why not you?

Why are you waiting for the entire Internet to change, the way you want? Which isn't going to happen no mater what any of us do. All the legal action in the world won't stop or slow down piracy.


The only thing that needs to change, is you... this crap isn't changing back, you best get over it and starting learning again.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:47 PM   #114
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I can easily see the people who give up easily in this thread.


If you are only working 15 hours in a day, try working 20 hours and see if you can't figure out a way to curve money out of online porn.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:14 PM   #115
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I mention that October sales are slow and that free porn is not helping the equation (which is hard to deny) and somehow I'm the target for some of the anger out there?

I continue to work on my stuff. I am updating. I am working on new tours. I have over 2 dozen blogs, and a handful of free sites. I have a few unique marketing angles I am working on. My sites are pretty good with regard to SEO, and include HUNDREDS of exclusive videos. I have at least 3 new sites in the works, and I am still shooting!

I don't understand why anyone in this biz is pissed off at me about the current state of affairs. I am not running any bullshit tube sites or pirate sites of any sort, nor am I stealing anyone's shit or illegally x-selling.

I have the right to bitch about shit all I want to vent. If you can see what I am doing wrong, or know how you can help me, then by all means, hit me up!

Some of you act like I am intentionally trying not to make money so I can bitch about it. That is not true, and if you want to help out, rather than just say I should change, then give out your amazing advice instead of complaining about my complaints.

If you think that tubes and piracy are a problem, as do I, then why are you so upset when I point this out... unless of course, you are part of the problem.

If you are the porn gurus you seem to imply, then let me know what mutually beneficial strategies I can incorporate.

I'm all ears... support @ PeckerPass dot com

Otherwise your 2 cents is as useless as my own.
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Old 10-22-2009, 08:22 PM   #116
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:34 AM   #117
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I mention that October sales are slow and that free porn is not helping the equation (which is hard to deny) and somehow I'm the target for some of the anger out there?

I continue to work on my stuff. I am updating. I am working on new tours. I have over 2 dozen blogs, and a handful of free sites. I have a few unique marketing angles I am working on. My sites are pretty good with regard to SEO, and include HUNDREDS of exclusive videos. I have at least 3 new sites in the works, and I am still shooting!

I don't understand why anyone in this biz is pissed off at me about the current state of affairs. I am not running any bullshit tube sites or pirate sites of any sort, nor am I stealing anyone's shit or illegally x-selling.

I have the right to bitch about shit all I want to vent. If you can see what I am doing wrong, or know how you can help me, then by all means, hit me up!

Some of you act like I am intentionally trying not to make money so I can bitch about it. That is not true, and if you want to help out, rather than just say I should change, then give out your amazing advice instead of complaining about my complaints.

If you think that tubes and piracy are a problem, as do I, then why are you so upset when I point this out... unless of course, you are part of the problem.

If you are the porn gurus you seem to imply, then let me know what mutually beneficial strategies I can incorporate.

I'm all ears... support @ PeckerPass dot com

Otherwise your 2 cents is as useless as my own.
Nobody is pissed at you... but personally I'm sicking of hearing people bitch about tubes, piracy, free porn.. endless bitching for 3 years now.

Free porn isn't going away, piracy isn't going away. It sucks, but it's true.

Think about it, if it isn't going to go away, why care? It sucks, yes.. but, you can't do anything about it.

Then it makes no difference if you think free porn hurts you or not... if you can't stop or control something, if you can't work with it and benefit from it. Then you're probably best off, just moving on and ignoring it.


Some free advice with your program... interact with your surfers and socialize with your members, not just emails. Let them hear from you, your models and staff. Open up your personality with them, invite them to see your world, give them special attention, tell them your stories.
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Old 10-23-2009, 12:44 AM   #118
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Same here. Also, i just can't seem to find a good celeb sponsor. Don't have lots of celeb traffic but it's blog/SE so i should manage to make some ?

I think i'm like 1:8000 !!
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I agree with a lot of your comments in regards to "Who would buy when they can get it for free" as well as "times are changing and your marketing needs to change with it."

I agree tubes are killing a part of the industry. I used to deal with hundreds of sponsors and over the last couple years I have seen some of my old favourites fall into the trap of easy traffic from tubes and that has destroyed my sales with them. Now I research each one of my sponsors and if I find their content on tubes I pull their plug. Not a personal vendetta just a marketing decision. I'm not going to try and sell something that is being given away next door for free.
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I agree with a lot of your comments in regards to "Who would buy when they can get it for free" as well as "times are changing and your marketing needs to change with it."

I agree tubes are killing a part of the industry. I used to deal with hundreds of sponsors and over the last couple years I have seen some of my old favourites fall into the trap of easy traffic from tubes and that has destroyed my sales with them. Now I research each one of my sponsors and if I find their content on tubes I pull their plug. Not a personal vendetta just a marketing decision. I'm not going to try and sell something that is being given away next door for free.
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