NiftyStats vs StatsRemote

[EscortBiz]

simple poll, what do you prefer

[kmanrox]

straight up, StatsRemote

[Sly]

I have both. Prefer Stats Remote.

[Rick Diculous]

I like stats remote. More stable than nifty stats. Nifty won't work properly for me 2 times out of 3

[martinsc]

nifty

[bufferover]

I use Nifty but there are lot of good comments about Stats too

[bobby666]

nifty for president!

[Nicky]

statsremote hands down

[Denny]

Nifty

[Ginn]

NiftyStats!

[Lace]

Tried both paid versions and personally, I chose Nifty FREE.

[Iron Fist]

NiftyStats however still having an issue with CCBILL since I got converted to WMS... but Nifty thinks there's nothing wrong with their software....sigh.

[18teens]

I like Nifty best.

[DanielS]

Nifty stats. I've tried also unified stats last week, and it didn't work. Keep giving me database download errors, etc.

So I'm using nifty.

And never tried statsremote.

[jwerd]

JB's good people in my book, StatsRemote all the way!

[tigermtb]

I use Nifty Stats for one profile of stats, StatsRemote for the other.

Niftystats is buggy, makes my computer do some strange shit when it starts up. My music on WinAmp starts skipping like crazy, it downloads stats from a CCBill account that was *never* entered into it.. which completely skewed my stats. Although I do like Nifty better for actually adding programs to it (better than SR)

We advertise with NiftyStats and I like these guys but now they have brought in so many other advertisers that our banners rarely show up.. and now they're raising their prices. I got the impression they didn't care, although I'm sure they do. I hope that all the money they're getting from overselling the space goes towards fixing the software.

I prefer paying for StatsRemote. It works properly and if anything breaks I get great support.

[V_RocKs]

If you aren't using SR it is like you are asking people not to take you seriously.

When people want to work with me I tell them to get SR and if they don't I take that as a sign I should not make business deals with this person.

So far this has worked out nicely for me.

[J B]

Thanks for the good words

A question for the people who use Niftystats: Did you ever try StatsRemote and what do you prefer about Niftystats except that it's free?

If you never tried StatsRemote or you did before we released V4, you can check out our new software (Windows, Mac and Linux) for free (no registration needed).
http://www.statsremote.com/demo.php

Originally Posted by tigermtb

I use Nifty Stats for one profile of stats, StatsRemote for the other.

You can check both profiles with StatsRemote if you want, either with categories or different workspaces.

Originally Posted by sharphead

NiftyStats however still having an issue with CCBILL since I got converted to WMS... but Nifty thinks there's nothing wrong with their software....sigh.

CCBill works fine in StatsRemote whether you use their new or old interface

[Jack Sparrow]

I paid for my niftystats and i cant even get the pro download. Keeps telling me its the free version.

[Paul&John]

NiftyStats, and works like a charm

[bash]

Nifty baby...

[Max_PuZcash]

statsremote, never considered something else

[Matyko]

I use niftystats free, even if it became very spammy recently. i am addicted to its funny little popups notifying me about the sales/rebills.

To be honest, I would only pay for a software like this if there were no free options.

[Ross]

Statsremote all the way.

[CyberHustler]

None. I just wait for checks and epass/paypal deposits.

[J B]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

None. I just wait for checks and epass/paypal deposits.

How do you notice if a payment is missing?

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

If you aren't using SR it is like you are asking people not to take you seriously.

When people want to work with me I tell them to get SR and if they don't I take that as a sign I should not make business deals with this person.

So far this has worked out nicely for me.

That's retarded... If you're not being sarcastic.

Free version of NiftyStats is just fine, it gives me my stats right in 1 window and doesn't require me to login to multiple sponsors.

Don't think I'll ever pay for something like this as long as there is a free version that works just as good as the pay shit out and about.

And by that time, I'm pretty sure I'll have my own system in place so I won't be using anyones shit.

[J B]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

That's retarded... If you're not being sarcastic.

I don't think he was being sarcastic

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Free version of NiftyStats is just fine, it gives me my stats right in 1 window and doesn't require me to login to multiple sponsors.

Does it support all your programs or do you still need to login manually to a few (or a lot) of them? If it tracks all your programs and you don't mind the ads, fine... but many people use a lot more programs than they support and since StatsRemote supports way more programs (and we add/fix at least 20-30 every week), it's the natural choice for them.

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Don't think I'll ever pay for something like this as long as there is a free version that works just as good as the pay shit out and about.

And by that time, I'm pretty sure I'll have my own system in place so I won't be using anyones shit.

So, you're also only using free hosting as long as it's available and when there's no free hosting anymore you will set up your own host?

Originally Posted by J B

I don't think he was being sarcastic

Then that's just fucking retarded and a half.

Originally Posted by J B

Does it support all your programs or do you still need to login manually to a few (or a lot) of them? If it tracks all your programs and you don't mind the ads, fine... but many people use a lot more programs than they support and since StatsRemote supports way more programs (and we add/fix at least 20-30 every week), it's the natural choice for them.

Yes, actually it supports MANY if not ALL my sponsors. And they are also very quick on adding new sponsors when they are notified of any new ones...

Originally Posted by J B

So, you're also only using free hosting as long as it's available and when there's no free hosting anymore you will set up your own host?

Don't put words in my mouth. I pay for my hosting, always have, always will...

That's like comparing apples to oranges.

I know StatsRemote is your baby, but don't come in here all high and mighty and say your product is better, because believe me, I've seen people complain countless times over your product not working right with giving false stats.

Originally Posted by J B

So, you're also only using free hosting as long as it's available and when there's no free hosting anymore you will set up your own host?

Also I am writing my own for a reason, unless you can make StatsRemote server side and pass information on via an API then it's worthless to me.

My script will be server side and allow my advertisers to login to a central area and see my geo stats, uniques, pageviews, and other shit, and also see what content converts best on my traffic with my own sponsors. Something neither Nifty nor your program will ever do for me.

[zentz]

they both have good functionality but stats remote give better support. always fast and helpful responds and they add new programs quick. so there goes my vote.

[J B]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Yes, actually it supports MANY if not ALL my sponsors. And they are also very quick on adding new sponsors when they are notified of any new ones...

That's why I said: 'If it tracks all your programs and you don't mind the ads, fine...'. My point was that there are plenty of people who use many programs which are not supported by them, so it makes a lot of sense to use StatsRemote eventhough it's not free.

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Don't put words in my mouth. I pay for my hosting, always have, always will...

That's like comparing apples to oranges.

Sorry, but I didn't put words in your mouth. The point is that many people don't mind to pay if they get good service in return. If you're satisfied with their software and service... great...

Originally Posted by Killswitch

I know StatsRemote is your baby, but don't come in here all high and mighty and say your product is better, because believe me, I've seen people complain countless times over your product not working right with giving false stats.

If you support more than 3000 programs and have a large member base, of course there will be many complaints because programs change their stats all the time. But we're usually very quick with fixing stuff. Sometimes it's just not possible unfortunately, e.g. many programs have different stats formats for different accounts and we need to customize the routines for different people which usually takes longer. That's just the nature of a software like this and alomst all of our clients understand this.

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Also I am writing my own for a reason, unless you can make StatsRemote server side and pass information on via an API then it's worthless to me.

My script will be server side and allow my advertisers to login to a central area and see my geo stats, uniques, pageviews, and other shit, and also see what content converts best on my traffic with my own sponsors. Something neither Nifty nor your program will ever do for me.

Yes, you're correct, that's something StatsRemote will never do for you because we only offer it as a desktop application for a very good reason

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by J B

How do you notice if a payment is missing?

I don't promote too many sponsors so I know exactly when to expect my payments and from who. Also, at various times throughout the month I log into the programs I promote just to check up on things. I really don't beast like that as long as I'm gettin' paid.

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by J B

Thanks for the good words

A question for the people who use Niftystats: Did you ever try StatsRemote and what do you prefer about Niftystats except that it's free?

If you never tried StatsRemote or you did before we released V4, you can check out our new software (Windows, Mac and Linux) for free (no registration needed).
http://www.statsremote.com/demo.php


You can check both profiles with StatsRemote if you want, either with categories or different workspaces.


CCBill works fine in StatsRemote whether you use their new or old interface

If you want some real feedback, I'm a current NiftyStats user and a former longtime StatsRemote user, so here you go:

In terms of features, I love love love the thing in NiftyStats where you can see which of your CCBill programs are getting your traffic and which are making money and how that breaks out into new joins versus rebills. NiftyStats breaks this out better than CCBill and would be worth using for this feature alone.

SilverCash bought me my first StatsRemote subscription for, ya know, sending them joins. I decided to keep paying for it, for a pretty long time afterward. I found it especially useful for sort of orphan programs I only promote occasionally. SilverCash also bought me a Starbucks card and I still enjoy coffee too.

I was really turned off when there was a pretty huge error in the way EpochStats was being reported in StatsRemote and I felt like, although your support had been quality in the past, you all were just kinda like, "so what, the Epoch system is weird" like it was totally out of your hands whether your software was reporting stats correctly and maybe I should have logged into the biller site more frequently -- even though reporting correct aggregated stats is the only function of your software. Obviously, I could have logged into Epoch and seen the report was wrong, which I eventually did, but the whole point of your product is not having to log into every individual site to get stats.

An apology for the inconvenience which sounded genuine and some minimal free subscription time and you would have most likely kept me as a customer.

In StatsRemote's defense, NiftyStats can't always download what it should and just doesn't support the merchant side of EpochStats period. NiftyStats also could have better support when a user reports an issue, but I don't expect the same customer service from a free product as from a paid subscription. NiftyStats couldn't make it up to me with a free subscription period because they are already free.

In a perfect world, I would use both NiftyStats and StatsRemote, but we don't live in a perfect world. In the final analysis, the customer service is fairly equivalent and I would rather have no stats than egregiously wrong stats.

[J B]

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

If you want some real feedback, I'm a current NiftyStats user and a former longtime StatsRemote user, so here you go:

Thank you!

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

In terms of features, I love love love the thing in NiftyStats where you can see which of your CCBill programs are getting your traffic and which are making money and how that breaks out into new joins versus rebills. NiftyStats breaks this out better than CCBill and would be worth using for this feature alone.

We've had this feature for many years... right click on CCBill -> Show Breakdown

Originally Posted by AmeliaG

SilverCash bought me my first StatsRemote subscription for, ya know, sending them joins. I decided to keep paying for it, for a pretty long time afterward. I found it especially useful for sort of orphan programs I only promote occasionally. SilverCash also bought me a Starbucks card and I still enjoy coffee too.

I was really turned off when there was a pretty huge error in the way EpochStats was being reported in StatsRemote and I felt like, although your support had been quality in the past, you all were just kinda like, "so what, the Epoch system is weird" like it was totally out of your hands whether your software was reporting stats correctly and maybe I should have logged into the biller site more frequently -- even though reporting correct aggregated stats is the only function of your software. Obviously, I could have logged into Epoch and seen the report was wrong, which I eventually did, but the whole point of your product is not having to log into every individual site to get stats.

An apology for the inconvenience which sounded genuine and some minimal free subscription time and you would have most likely kept me as a customer.

In StatsRemote's defense, NiftyStats can't always download what it should and just doesn't support the merchant side of EpochStats period. NiftyStats also could have better support when a user reports an issue, but I don't expect the same customer service from a free product as from a paid subscription. NiftyStats couldn't make it up to me with a free subscription period because they are already free.

In a perfect world, I would use both NiftyStats and StatsRemote, but we don't live in a perfect world. In the final analysis, the customer service is fairly equivalent and I would rather have no stats than egregiously wrong stats.

I just checked the history of your conversation with our support and also the Epoch history in our admin. Epoch made several changes during that time and we always tried to fix it for the next update. It happened twice that we fixed it and they made more changes shortly after we released our update. It took a few weeks until things stabilized and we could finally fix it. Since that time we haven't received a single error report anymore.

This is the problem with a software like StatsRemote. If a company changes their stats over a period of several weeks, it's quite hard for us to make it work right away. I'm very sorry that you were disappointed with our support but I couldn't find anything like "so what, the Epoch system is weird" in the conversation. We told you that they were still making changes and that this is not something we can control.

BTW you have mail

JB, now that NatNet is back up, I finally got a chance to check out your site, I might give your demo a try and write a review, I got some questions though.

Can you have multiple computers running the software, and can they be different operating systems?

Say I have a PC and a Mac, can I run it on both with the same username?

Also if I buy it with a PC and later on get a Mac, can I easily switch installs? And is it easy to import back and forth?

Looks good man, that's one thing you have over NiftyStats, Mac and Linux support.

[J B]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

JB, now that NatNet is back up, I finally got a chance to check out your site, I might give your demo a try and write a review, I got some questions though.

Sure

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Can you have multiple computers running the software, and can they be different operating systems?

With a single-user license you can run StatsRemote on as many machines (same OS) as you like but not at the same time. To use it on different OS you need separate licenses. Since we just release V4 a few weeks ago, right now everybody can still test it on all OS no matter what license you have.

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Say I have a PC and a Mac, can I run it on both with the same username?

With the same username... no problem... but you need two licenses. As I wrote above, right now it's still possible with one license.

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Also if I buy it with a PC and later on get a Mac, can I easily switch installs? And is it easy to import back and forth?

Yes, moving it from one computer to another is no problem at all, whether they use the same OS or not. You will keep all your accounts, settings and stats. It's also no problem to switch your license from Windows to Mac (or any other way).

Originally Posted by Killswitch

Looks good man, that's one thing you have over NiftyStats, Mac and Linux support.

One of many


Would love to see your review!

[AmeliaG]

Originally Posted by J B

Thank you!


We've had this feature for many years... right click on CCBill -> Show Breakdown



I just checked the history of your conversation with our support and also the Epoch history in our admin. Epoch made several changes during that time and we always tried to fix it for the next update. It happened twice that we fixed it and they made more changes shortly after we released our update. It took a few weeks until things stabilized and we could finally fix it. Since that time we haven't received a single error report anymore.

This is the problem with a software like StatsRemote. If a company changes their stats over a period of several weeks, it's quite hard for us to make it work right away. I'm very sorry that you were disappointed with our support but I couldn't find anything like "so what, the Epoch system is weird" in the conversation. We told you that they were still making changes and that this is not something we can control.

BTW you have mail

Wow! Thank you I'm going to check it out now.

[tigermtb]

Actually, I do like those sale popups that NiftyStats has.

But all I did with my StatsRemote is put a strange audio file attached to it so I always know when a sale comes in.

I do find StatsRemote kinda expensive, I think its what.. $300+ a year, to check stats? Its definitely worth $15/mo but current pricing is a little high.

As long as StatsRemote continues to work properly (above all else) and if it breaks, I have good support.. i'm still happy with it.

[scottybuzz]

Never used Nifty stats, but one thing I love about statsremote is the support. They are quick and help you out. One thing that unified stats didn't do.

Ive had it i think 2 years now and the cost does add up. I think maybe next renewal I may try the free and just check it out for a bit.

[woj]

Both are good products, but you can't really compete with free, especially when both product are essentially the same...

[Agent 488]

pen and paper.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

If you aren't using SR it is like you are asking people not to take you seriously.

When people want to work with me I tell them to get SR and if they don't I take that as a sign I should not make business deals with this person.

So far this has worked out nicely for me.

I agree completely.

[J B]

Originally Posted by woj

Both are good products, but you can't really compete with free, especially when both product are essentially the same...

Believe me, it's never been a problem to compete with free. A free 'competitor' is actually good for us but most people will never understand this

And the two products are only 'essentially the same' if you are one of the lucky people who only promotes the programs which can be tracked with our 'competitor' and the majority of people doesn't belong to this lucky group...

[elmy]

I vote for Nifty Stats

[PowerCum]

Originally Posted by J B

A question for the people who use Niftystats: Did you ever try StatsRemote and what do you prefer about Niftystats except that it's free?

I used SR for several months, perhaps a year and now I am a MODERATELY happy NS (free) user. Note that moderately is the keyword here.

I am testing SR for Linux at the moment, and here are the pros and cons.

NS pros over SR:

1 ) When I add a sponsor in NS, all the subprograms appear under that sponsor in NS. I have to add each program one by one in SR. Same happens with some sponsors custom campaigns. NS tracks them automatically while SR doesn't. Example sponsors are AFF, Herbal Revenue and PimpMansion, just get them added in NS and SR and you will see the difference immediately.

2 ) Nice and EASY graphs. I love graphs, specially to be able to select a couple of different sponsors and get them plotted into the same graph for an easy comparison. SR has very rudimentary graphs.


SR pros over NS:

1 ) Works on Linux, so I don't need to run a virtual machine for the stats.

2 ) Has support for practically every affiliate program adult or not.


SR cons (practically repeating stuff fron above):

1 ) No decent graphs.
2 ) Each subprogram must be added separatedly. This leads to having 500 rows for 30 or 40 sponsors. AND the most ANNOYING part is that I have to add them one by one.
3 ) Seems it doesn't track properly refunds and chergebacks for AFF, at least my demo version doesn't.

NS cons:

1 ) Doesn't work on Linux
2 ) Supports very few programs
3 ) Stats are not always accurate, specially with the popup thingie.


Being both products not ideal for my needs, I just went with the free one BECAUSE it has better graphs and nested sponsor subprograms. Note that price was not a decision factor at all, but the graps and the nested subprogram stats per sponsor.

Add proper (nested) subprograms tracking and decent graphs and I will be a happy SR user. Until then, I see absolutely no improvement over the SR 3 version I used on a windows box some time ago, except that now it also runs on Linux.