Non-advertiser threads should be bounced....

[PR_Dave]

As an long time advertiser on GFY I'm tired of seeing this board over clogged with non-advertiser threads.

If they don't advertiser here their threads should be 100% bounced to an opportunities / spam forum.

I have already talked to many other advertisers and we are all in agreement. The ability to use a full size banner in our sigs is not enough of an incentive going into 2010.

GFY it is in your hands now.

[cherrylula]

Ice Ice Baby!

[PR_Dave]

There is less business to go around.

A cleanup needs to happen.

[_Richard_]

sounds like a great idea! For you.

you'd think that having those types of one-time program announcements would attract the viewer base that you're ads would obviously have no problems converting..

[Serge Litehead]

how about this: before thread loads we must all click advertiser's FPA's get some words from your site enter them here at captcha and only then we can read others (spam) threads

[munki]

Kinda defeats the purpose of an open discussion forum IMHO...

[Jack OAT]

What is an example of a thread that should be bounced? btw.. I love the pimproll sites. they are some of my favorite

[Ross]

I think you guys misunderstood Dave, isn't he talking about all the Announcement threads started by people who don't pay for a top banner on the board? There seems to be a lot of people posting about their paysites/programmes who don't sponsor the forum.

[Sly]

Sounds like a pretty slippery slope to me...

[kristin]

Originally Posted by pornopete

wouldn't everybody just move to the new forum then?

My thoughts exactly.

[PR_Dave]

Sponsors can post in main forum, non sponsors in spam / opp forum.

Only people that will complain are the non-sponsors.

[garce]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Sponsors can post in main forum, non sponsors in spam / opp forum.

Only people that will complain are the non-sponsors.

I'm all for it if it'll get rid of the signbucksdaily spam whores.

[Juicy D. Links]

Dave can you let Don know that I still need the name of the conditioner he uses in his hair please... he is holding out ever since I told him it was so silky..

[datatank]

I vote that anything not related to PORN.COM , LIVECAMS.COM or PRDAVE.COM just get deleted.

[BlackCrayon]

there should be some restrictions but not all programs are huge and can afford to advertise on gfy.

[XD2]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Sponsors can post in main forum, non sponsors in spam / opp forum.

Only people that will complain are the non-sponsors.

But surely most of the exposure your ads receive on these forums comes from the people coming back to read random crap.

If they move that to a different forum alot of people would just come here for that forum and that could lead to even less exposure for sponsors.

Wouldn't it be better to use the "Sticky" feature for official sponsor promotion threads. I know it is done now, but maybe it says stuck for a longer period or something?

[Loch]

Originally Posted by munki

Kinda defeats the purpose of an open discussion forum IMHO...

That is why a board has an announcement forum

GFY should put money in the pockets of the people that feed them, simple as that.

[MaDalton]

how about lowering advertising prices so that not only PR_Dave can afford to advertise in 2010? ;)

considering traffic to GFY has dropped like 60% or in the last 2 years

[Loch]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there should be some restrictions but not all programs are huge and can afford to advertise on gfy.

Comon man, you cen get adds here from arround 300 bucks

[PR_Dave]

Do people really come to GFY for the spam?

I don't think they do.

If a sponsor is too small to afford a banner on GFY, fuck them. You should not trust your traffic with them.

[Loch]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

how about lowering advertising prices so that not only PR_Dave can afford to advertise in 2010? ;)

considering traffic to GFY has dropped like 60% or in the last 2 years

GFY is no more expensive then anything else.....
You do not have to buy their top package!

As a sponsor here i get real tired of seeing someone from our company post a huge announcement thread just to find out that 5 minutes later its been drowned in other contests from people that never put a dime down for adds.

[Jdoughs]

If you asked to ban contest threads I bet REAL webmasters would back this as well.

[Eric]

Dave,

I think this is a great piece of feedback. I love shit like this from you guys.

I see some misconceptions in this thread, as usual. Let me clear some of those up.

1) There is not a single contest thread on GFY for a company that is not a top banner sponsors. If there is and I somehow missed it, please let me know. I am not hard to find almost 24/7.

2) Top Banner sponsors get their announcements pinned. I will be evaluating longer pinning going into the new year.

3) Any sponsor of GFY can make program announcements.

I think Dave is on to something that has some serious steam. I will be thinking it over and will be making my decision in the coming weeks. Having your announcement thread moved to a program announcement area is only one of a few items I will be mulling over and either making a change or adjusting.

Meanwhile, if you have other ideas that you would like to share, please feel free.

Eric

[Useless Warrior]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

there should be some restrictions but not all programs are huge and can afford to advertise on gfy.

That's business. Why would anyone pay to advertise if the next guy can advertise for free? If a program can't afford to pay for advertising, then they have a shitty business plan.

[LickMyBalls]

I'm all for this.

Can we pay a separate fee to get B O B to stop posting his daily "We'll give you any amount of money you want for any type of join you can possibly send" threads?

[signbucks]

all gfyers have made gfy what it's now and they are actually still making it

if people won't be able to post their promo in the most visited section they won't be visiting gfy as much and advertisers will get even less impressions at the end of the day :2cents

[NoWhErE]

Originally Posted by Eric

Dave,

I think this is a great piece of feedback. I love shit like this from you guys.

I see some misconceptions in this thread, as usual. Let me clear some of those up.

1) There is not a single contest thread on GFY for a company that is not a top banner sponsors. If there is and I somehow missed it, please let me know. I am not hard to find almost 24/7.

2) Top Banner sponsors get their announcements pinned. I will be evaluating longer pinning going into the new year.

3) Any sponsor of GFY can make program announcements.

I think Dave is on to something that has some serious steam. I will be thinking it over and will be making my decision in the coming weeks. Having your announcement thread moved to a program announcement area is only one of a few items I will be mulling over and either making a change or adjusting.

Meanwhile, if you have other ideas that you would like to share, please feel free.

Eric

I don't envy you. I moderate alot of boards with paying advertisers and its always a fine line between trying to keep you're paying clients happy, and keeping the board active.

[JD]

constant spam/announcements/etc i agree should go in the proper place. I think that the occasional thread in the main area is perfectly fine though.

[fatfoo]

I guess only authorized companies can start those contest threads. That's fair.

[PR_Dave]

GFY will need to give me a % but why not do a pay per thread for all the low rent 1/2 assed programs out there?

No one will leave GFY if the spammers posts are bounced either. Less spam will make GFY easier to read.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

As an long time advertiser on GFY I'm tired of seeing this board over clogged with non-advertiser threads.

If they don't advertiser here their threads should be 100% bounced to an opportunities / spam forum.

I have already talked to many other advertisers and we are all in agreement. The ability to use a full size banner in our sigs is not enough of an incentive going into 2010.

GFY it is in your hands now.

[PenisFace]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

If you asked to ban contest threads I bet REAL webmasters would back this as well.

Oh god, this! I cant stand those fucking contest threads and all the whores they bring in. 90% of the posters in those fucking things have never made a site in their entire lives!

Yeas, haelo my name is vlad, i haev von conteast by beaing viftiest poster.

[MakingItPay]

Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

Perhaps it should be changed to "advertising" webmasters.

[halfpint]

Maybe GFY should open a business only section as this is the fucking around and disscusion section

[fuzebox]

Originally Posted by MakingItPay

Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

Perhaps it should be changed to "advertising" webmasters.

I saved up my one time announcement for 6 years, and never posted anything after

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by MakingItPay

Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

Perhaps it should be changed to "advertising" webmasters.

no, i think "established" should be enforced. here are people who made more posts than me in 6 months by posting only bullshit and smilies. or look in any contest thread - there are dozens of nicks with 5 digit post counts that I never heard of in nearly 6 years that I am here.

can i afford to buy a top banner for $3000 or so per month? no

but do i think i have a few more rights on here than someone who posted 20,000 smilies in 6 months? yes

[PR_Dave]

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

DUH...

I agree with you.

[NaughtyRob]

I very much agree with this one.

Originally Posted by MaDalton

no, i think "established" should be enforced. here are people who made more posts than me in 6 months by posting only bullshit and smilies. or look in any contest thread - there are dozens of nicks with 5 digit post counts that I never heard of in nearly 6 years that I am here.

can i afford to buy a top banner for $3000 or so per month? no

but do i think i have a few more rights on here than someone who posted 20,000 smilies in 6 months? yes

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by munki

Kinda defeats the purpose of an open discussion forum IMHO...

no kidding - do that and EVERYONE leaves

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

I vote that GFY go adfree! NO SPONSORS!!!

LET THE TROLLS RUN FREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

but seriously, i already killed all the advertisements via the hosts file, BLAMMO...

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by Ross

I think you guys misunderstood Dave, isn't he talking about all the Announcement threads started by people who don't pay for a top banner on the board? There seems to be a lot of people posting about their paysites/programmes who don't sponsor the forum.

personally I think that's just based on greed and forcing one view point.

what about all the small webmasters starting unique programs and such that can't afford a large banner but make huge contributions to GFY in time and effort.

it feels like an attempt to squish anyone starting out.

let the forum and threads stand on their own. I personally don't even like the idea of pinning a thread for a program - it should be bumped with REAL comments - not bots - and if it isn't then in reality it's something no one really wants to promote or gives a shit about anyway.

I do agree with the contest rules though - an exception might be considered for anyone running a non-commercial contest though (as I have done in the past) but the commercial ones often get out of hand and really need some control


if GFY were to stop the small webmsters from talking about their programs - I'd leave and support another board.

we're webmasters - our websites are our LIVES - it's why we're here - it's what we want to talk about and be proud about. Any restrictions on that would KILL this place.


PRdave - i think your idea is based solely on your own greed.

[wtfent]

How about we all STOP sending traffic to pimproll? Come on Dave, surely you have more business knowledge than this. These very sites that you want to remove from GFY also run blogs, etc... that send traffic to your program. Do you really want to hurt them?

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by Eric

I think Dave is on to something that has some serious steam. I will be thinking it over and will be making my decision in the coming weeks. Having your announcement thread moved to a program announcement area is only one of a few items I will be mulling over and either making a change or adjusting.

Meanwhile, if you have other ideas that you would like to share, please feel free.

Eric

making this forum "advertisers only" would be the kiss of death. Nobody wants to read a board with nothing but advertising, or the random thoughts only of people that can pay for the priveledge. What an absurd idea, & double absurd the board moderator thinks it has merit.

[goldfish]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Do people really come to GFY for the spam?

I don't think they do.

If a sponsor is too small to afford a banner on GFY, fuck them. You should not trust your traffic with them.

I knew there was a reason I left PR years ago. geez!

I come here looking for stuff before I go anywhere else, get rid of the "spam" and the only thing left are the bullshit threads like horse dick dot text and someone calling someone else an asshole... Now IMHO if you got rid of those maybe we could get some business done.

[Joshua G]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

If a sponsor is too small to afford a banner on GFY, fuck them.

LOL...so which Duke are you?

[SleazyDream]

Originally Posted by PR_Dave

Do people really come to GFY for the spam?

I don't think they do.

If a sponsor is too small to afford a banner on GFY, fuck them. You should not trust your traffic with them.

there are programs larger then pimproll - by that logic - why use pimp roll?

they're not the biggest so why trust your traffic to them.......

i've never chosen a program based on it's size - i do it based on quality above other things and if I like it or not

[wtfent]

[PastorSinAlot]

I come here to find sponsors for my sites, Small, big and ugly
I dont care who pays who, just pay me on time

[Dubya]

I agree...and get rid of these fucking idiots who do nothing but post in the contest threads! How the fuck are they contributing to GFY in a positive way? Oh, I forgot...it bloats the post counts and views for advertisers. DUH ME!

[PR_Dave]

Unless you are paying for advertising you are not sitting in my shoes.

I pay big bucks for my GFY banners, not wrong of me to expect more for my ad dollars.

Also I am all about clearing out the dead weight programs that consistently spam this board.