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Old 11-26-2009, 01:33 PM   #51
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He has to wait in line just like people in Canada do. He wanted to see about a soreness in his left knee. They told him to schedule an appointment and they will see him around December 8th. This was back around Nov 20th.
This is not too bad. I got very ill in the summer of 2008 and had to wait 4.5 weeks to get to see a Urologist. During that time I was completely sick, with the only source of treatment being trips to the Hospital Emergency where they couldn't give any consistent treatment.

When I finally got into see the Urologist I was triaged by a medical student. After this BS it took more than a year to see two other Urologists and I have my next appointment in December. In the USA my experience would be considered malpractice, but here I just have to take it.

The issue in Canada is the lack of freedom and choice. And the fact that we are all paying outrageously to keep these social services afloat. And anyone who thinks that the only costs are the insurance premiums, or their income taxes are nuts. The medical system is Canada's Military-Industrial complex. It is a colossal and corrupt make work program.

As an aside I have just returned from spending 5 years in a variety of Asian countries. I can tell you the situation for medical access is better in China than Canada. And in fact I did have a procedure done there that I would have been waiting for years in Canada. These Asian countries are dynamic and moving up largely because they are not saddled with the huge tax costs and limitations of operating any business in Canada. Coming back to Canada is like entering some Soviet past, where nothing can be done.

With respect to the posters here, I doubt many have the worldview or experience to comment appropriately on the subject.
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:42 PM   #52
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This is not too bad. I got very ill in the summer of 2008 and had to wait 4.5 weeks to get to see a Urologist. During that time I was completely sick, with the only source of treatment being trips to the Hospital Emergency where they couldn't give any consistent treatment.

When I finally got into see the Urologist I was triaged by a medical student. After this BS it took more than a year to see two other Urologists and I have my next appointment in December. In the USA my experience would be considered malpractice, but here I just have to take it.

The issue in Canada is the lack of freedom and choice. And the fact that we are all paying outrageously to keep these social services afloat. And anyone who thinks that the only costs are the insurance premiums, or their income taxes are nuts. The medical system is Canada's Military-Industrial complex. It is a colossal and corrupt make work program.

As an aside I have just returned from spending 5 years in a variety of Asian countries. I can tell you the situation for medical access is better in China than Canada. And in fact I did have a procedure done there that I would have been waiting for years in Canada. These Asian countries are dynamic and moving up largely because they are not saddled with the huge tax costs and limitations of operating any business in Canada. Coming back to Canada is like entering some Soviet past, where nothing can be done.

With respect to the posters here, I doubt many have the worldview or experience to comment appropriately on the subject.
China being better than Canada is an argument FOR socialism, not against.
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:43 PM   #53
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China being better than Canada is an argument FOR socialism, not against.
China is not a socialist country. More like a hyper-capitalist police state.
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Old 11-26-2009, 01:50 PM   #54
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When I finally got into see the Urologist I was triaged by a medical student. After this BS it took more than a year to see two other Urologists and I have my next appointment in December. In the USA my experience would be considered malpractice, but here I just have to take it.
I have world wide experience..

That wouldn't be malpractice here, that would be standard practice. You have to wait in America for problems just as much as you do in Canada. If the Doctors are busy, the more your problem is specialized, the more you wait... unless it's an extreme emergency, everyone waits, sometimes for years.


I lived in Canada and Paid Canadian taxes... The taxed %'s in Canada are lower than Americans, before Americans pay for Health Insurance, all other taxes on are scale, at all healthcare levels.

Per-capita, The Gov of Canada spends half of what America already spends. Per-capita the avg Canadian spends half what an American spends. American spends 5% more GDP than Canada per-capita. Health Insurance wise, Americans spend more per-person than any other Country in the world.


China wise... They may have a good medical system that some people can reach, for sure not all.. and even so that doesn't change the fact the people are swimming and drinking lakes of raw shit and trash with nuclear waste and environmental havoc happening all around them.

Even in China, kids with birth defects wait.. it's not perfect in any country.
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China is more of a communist/socialist country than the U.S. or Canada, and has a socialist healthcare system and is moving toward universal healthcare, not toward a free market private system. The US healthcare is nothing like China, and was not in the top 10 free market countries, where the US was the only one without universal healthcare. Hong Kong however, was something like #1 for several years now.
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China is not a socialist country. More like a hyper-capitalist police state.
The HUGE difference between the medical situaton in China and the US is the difference in cost. I am not sure about china but many other Asian countries you can be treated, and treated well for very little money. I am not sure how they do it thought. Their doctors just don't make as much? Supplies don't cost as much? Either way, nothing about how the medical system is in China/Vietnam/Thailand/Korea is going to change whats going on the US/Canada unless medical professionals are willing to take huge paycuts as well as medical supply companies doing the same.
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The HUGE difference between the medical situaton in China and the US is the difference in cost. I am not sure about china but many other Asian countries you can be treated, and treated well for very little money. I am not sure how they do it thought. Their doctors just don't make as much? Supplies don't cost as much? Either way, nothing about how the medical system is in China/Vietnam/Thailand/Korea is going to change whats going on the US/Canada unless medical professionals are willing to take huge paycuts as well as medical supply companies doing the same.
In addition, China has been known to spit in the face of our patent laws and create their own generic versions anyway. That saves them huge costs on drugs, where the US probably pays more than any other country.
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The issue in Canada is the lack of freedom and choice
What are you talking about? You can see whatever doctor you want and if you need a referral to specialist you can pick which one. That's not the case in smaller communities where there's only one specialist in a particular field but private enterprise certainly isn't gonna solve that.

The lack of choice stuff is just rubbish spewed out from talk radio.
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This is not too bad. I got very ill in the summer of 2008 and had to wait 4.5 weeks to get to see a Urologist. During that time I was completely sick, with the only source of treatment being trips to the Hospital Emergency where they couldn't give any consistent treatment.

When I finally got into see the Urologist I was triaged by a medical student. After this BS it took more than a year to see two other Urologists and I have my next appointment in December. In the USA my experience would be considered malpractice, but here I just have to take it.

The issue in Canada is the lack of freedom and choice. And the fact that we are all paying outrageously to keep these social services afloat. And anyone who thinks that the only costs are the insurance premiums, or their income taxes are nuts. The medical system is Canada's Military-Industrial complex. It is a colossal and corrupt make work program.

As an aside I have just returned from spending 5 years in a variety of Asian countries. I can tell you the situation for medical access is better in China than Canada. And in fact I did have a procedure done there that I would have been waiting for years in Canada. These Asian countries are dynamic and moving up largely because they are not saddled with the huge tax costs and limitations of operating any business in Canada. Coming back to Canada is like entering some Soviet past, where nothing can be done.

With respect to the posters here, I doubt many have the worldview or experience to comment appropriately on the subject.
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