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Old 12-16-2002, 09:52 PM   #101
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My mother always took a sort of different route with me than most parents do with their kids. When it came time to tell me about sex, the first thing she showed me was a book on Genital Warts and other STD's that she borrowed from her friend who was a nurse. Closeup, high detailed pictures. Lovely stuff. Needless to say, i don't bang every slut that comes onto me.

With drugs and alchohol, she took me to where she works. She works in aged care, and there are many people there who are totally destroyed, from drug and/or alchohol abuse. Some of these guys are as young as 40, and all they can do is sleep, breathe, eat (assisted by a nurse) and shit themselves.

She also told me about experiences she's had, with friends she's lost from people abusing alchohol, etc. Things like that really get to you, and give you a much better understanding of the consequences.
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Old 12-16-2002, 11:47 PM   #102
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how do you know I don't understand, you're just assuming I don't. First sign of a fool.

Joining AA is taking controll of your destiny. Blaiming addiction on heredity or saying it's a disease is just removing the blame from where it should land. Even though AA is a little fuzzy on this point, AA makes it's members ask for forgiveness and make amends for wrong doings. Own up to your own problems and don't blaim them on society, friends, genetics, or the like. That's just a scapegoat.

Just because you weren't in controll doesn't mean you arn't responsible for your actions. If you took action to loose controll you're responsible for everything that happens when you're out of controll.
if you blame something else you can't really fix the problem. blaming hereditry alcoholism is BS... you should know not to get drunk if thats the case.. making it more personal responsibility

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Old 12-17-2002, 06:34 AM   #103
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LOL...you have 1700+ posts but have not yet crossed a Fletch Corona thread.
1700 posts in one weekend and Fletch was out fishing.
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Old 12-17-2002, 06:36 AM   #104
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Hey...your dad was in AA right!? He obviously drank himself there & I'm positive the shitty things he did cuz of drinking wasn't cuz he wanted to, Think about it! Believe me...you're not in control of it. If you don't have the disease, you are...so how would you know?

It's something only other addicts/drunks would understand anyway.
eRock - I see your point but the fact that you are clean now is proof that you do have control - ultimately.
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Old 12-17-2002, 07:20 AM   #105
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Someone has already said this I think

But be truthful with your brother tell him that it does him no good and will never do him any good at all.....

Say you have never found any reason to do drugs in your life and you are doing good in life.... Make him see the positive side of not doing them and also give him a small insight into what life could be like if he got heavily into drugs!!

I know its very easy for all of us to sit here typing away telling you what to say but in reality its a lot harder than we can imagine!

My cousins friends were trying to get him to smoke marijuana and he told my uncle about it.... My uncle said ok if you wanna try you will do it infront of me! Just so he would be there if anything happened and my little cousin tried it ( this was about 1 year ago) and to this day he has never touched the stuff again!!!

I am not saying you should let your brother try it but try and make him understand that it isn't the best or smartest thing on earth and also tell him he will have better things to spend his $$$ on!!!

Just my Hope it helps Cheshire

ps thanx for the e-mail back about the T shirt for Angie!

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Old 12-17-2002, 07:28 AM   #106
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I have tonight, then he's off to New Zealand in the morning and back to boarding school on the East Coast hours after returning in January.
you said it right there...."boarding school"....he does hard drugs AND his parent's aren't around to fuck him up?

All you can do is hope he grows out of it before he either overdoses or does something else extremely stupid to end his life.

If I were you, the first thing I'd do is take him out of that boarding school. He can live with you and go to a real high school.
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Old 12-17-2002, 07:47 AM   #107
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I think there are deeper problems causing the drug and alcohol problems you are seeing. Some kids cannot cope with boarding school. Separation anxiety, abandonment issures...ect. Boarding schools are real close to military life styles. I believe I would address that first, then go from there. IMO
Good luck Cheshire. From one big sis to another
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Old 12-17-2002, 07:54 AM   #108
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also movie trainspotting - some of the movie episodes remembered long after at the similar situations, its entertaining if just hwatching it and thinking it won't happen to you, but few years pass and it surfaces in consiousness

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Old 12-17-2002, 08:10 AM   #109
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agreed. kid needs to go home.

Totally.

It's understandable that upper class parents sometimes need the extra space/time/freedom required to make the money and support the lifestyle everyone in the family is used to. But sometimes the cost is just too high. Sometimes it's better to take a little paycut & get a promotion in parenting.

I wonder if chesire went to boarding school too? In boarding school the parents usually wind up being nothing more than plastic credit card blur to the kids. At a time in your life when its easy to fight and be angry with your parents - by default, it just adds a ton of fuel to the fire when your parents "ship you off".

Even though kids might SAY they are cool with it all, there are still times when your sitting there alone & thinking about it all and why things are the way they are.

But then you smoke some _______ with the other kids that are feeling just like you and your all better and ready to face the world again

But I guess not everyone who goes to boarding school comes out in handcuffs, dead or on a stretcher -- if they did, parents wouldn't send them there right? right?

Boarding schools, drug-addicted parents, parents into domestic violence and stuff like that brings up kids in the same way -- they feel abandoned. Kids are going to feel abandoned on their own as it is during their young adult lives.... all of this stuff just makes it more of a chronic condition than a temporary one.

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