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Robbie · 12-04-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyHoe

Hopefully without stains ..lol

Damn...just checked...stains front and back! Damn you! Damn you to helllllll!

Edit: Three Hunnert ShoeHorned CrackWhores

Robbie · 12-04-2009, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BillyHoe

Just think of all the true Crackwhores you've helps with your taxes and through social aid..

I probably helped a lot of them BECOME crackwhores over the years...

Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Varius

It seems to me, this issue is pretty black and white. Many programs allow affiliates to bid on their domains or domain name keywords; many don't. If Dirty D chooses to be counted among those who forbid it, that is completely his call.

HOWEVER, if it was not a condition in the terms and the affiliate was not told about it, all legit sales until he was made aware of the fact should be paid out. I really don't see how there can be any other side to this story.

For those mentioning "spirit of the law" versus "letter of the law", that isn't relevant here; this is not an affiliate arguing he didn't see in the terms that having Filipinos commit credit card fraud all day was against the program's conditions. This is an affiliate using a popular marketing tactic that many programs DO allow, not having any reason to doubt he should be paid for it.

As for the discussion of does taking the domain name as a keyword take away type-in or organic sales from the program, my thought would be, it really depends on a lot of factors. Are you using the exact domain name, or just the exact name without the extension? If the first result for the term goes to the site's index and the PPC ad goes to a specific tour page instead and leads to sales, do you know that same person would have bought if they came to your index and not that particular tour? No, you don't. I'm sure you can come up with other situations.

Bottom line, I would allow it, but if, as a program owner, you don't wish to, just put it in your terms.

The fact it is over such a small amount of money, really lends itself this is a matter of ego more than anything else (as far as the program is concerned).

I am still not sure that Dirty D truly understands the difference between PPC campaigns and typeins, and might not realize that my PPC campaigns weren't "taking" any of his sales.

In any case, the facts have been brought to light and it is now a matter of paying something that is owed. I hope he will read peoples responses in this thread and do the right thing.

will76 · 12-04-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Do any programs allow affiliates to purchase the exact spelling of the paysite domain in google?

The Shoehorn method.
This is a great way to siphon off typeins.

Affiliate programs would be wise to check and see if any affiliates are siphoning off the typeins.

You people kill me with this shit and fucked up logic. ANY sales from affiiliates is a good sale (unless it was from spam, trojans, fraud, etc...) He is paying money to advertise YOUR SITE. He could just as easily be targeting the phrase " crack whore confessions" and sending it to another similar type site owned by another company instead of your site. There is no guarantee that you would have gotten those sales even though you seem to be so sure that you would. Bitch when people target your domains and send them to another company, don't bitch when they send them to you.

In these times when most affiliate programs are crying to get sales, you are going to cry because you are getting sales.

unbelievable.

bobby666 · 12-04-2009, 01:13 AM

a never ending thread

Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by bobby666

a never ending thread

Unless he decides to pay me what he owes me.

will76 · 12-04-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Oh one other thing....on the "big tit whore" keyword you'll also notice my Grampland and Jugland sites are on the first page too. Heh-heh.

wow you are so cool.

Robbie · 12-04-2009, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

wow you are so cool.

Yep.

No, but I'm proud when I work at things and see results. I have no problem with that. What's the old saying? "It ain't braggin' if it's true"

I work hard as hell and always have. If most people that are in this biz would put in the time and effort they could be "cool" too. Including you.

Robbie · 12-04-2009, 01:25 AM

Just finished my updates. Another long day of work. Enjoyed spending my in between moments arguing points with everybody. Off to bed now. Later y'all.

IntenseCash · 12-04-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE

Work it out.

Mickey-AWE sig:

I am hijacking this thread to say your sig is fucking ridiculous!

jigg · 12-04-2009, 01:35 AM

no understanding of PPC, that's what this is.
Some of the bigger mainstream companies have both organic listings and do PPC.
I'd be curious what would happen if an affiliate with great SEO skills got the top 3 organic spots?

Good thing I saw this thread, had a HowIGotRich campaign lined up with $500-day budget that just got erased
The risk is simply not worth it. And any affiliate promoting this program should be on their toes, since who knows what new rule may be made 3 days from now that will cost you yours comissions

Deej · 12-04-2009, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by will76

You people kill me with this shit and fucked up logic. ANY sales from affiiliates is a good sale (unless it was from spam, trojans, fraud, etc...) He is paying money to advertise YOUR SITE. He could just as easily be targeting the phrase " crack whore confessions" and sending it to another similar type site owned by another company instead of your site. There is no guarantee that you would have gotten those sales even though you seem to be so sure that you would. Bitch when people target your domains and send them to another company, don't bitch when they send them to you.

In these times when most affiliate programs are crying to get sales, you are going to cry because you are getting sales.

unbelievable.

Its fucking retarded isnt it...

Crunked · 12-04-2009, 01:44 AM

7 Pages long and you still haven't gotten paid. Talk about some bad rep. Here's to hoping you get paid.

dav3 · 12-04-2009, 01:46 AM

will76 · 12-04-2009, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Yep.

No, but I'm proud when I work at things and see results. I have no problem with that. What's the old saying? "It ain't braggin' if it's true"

I work hard as hell and always have. If most people that are in this biz would put in the time and effort they could be "cool" too. Including you.

thanks for the advice. I guess i better start working then because I only work a couple hours a week as it is now, i spend most of the time sitting on my ass doing nothing.

Robbie you are allways good for a laugh and one of the few people on here that I disagree with almost all of the time, so knowing you, you will take that as a compliment. enjoy it.

RTP · 12-04-2009, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jigg

I'd be curious what would happen if an affiliate with great SEO skills got the top 3 organic spots?

it's not pretty - this is why it's a smart move for any program to invest in internal traffic sources.

problem is hiring a internal "corp" seo guy vs seo based affiliate is like fedor vs silvia

CunningStunt · 12-04-2009, 02:00 AM

Robbie, wtf, lost total respect for you, you're just out to troll and nothing else. Pathetic really.

It's black and white, it was't in the T&C, he should be paid. I fought 8 months with those assholes at william hill (UK betting co) over a 5 figure payout over the exact same thing. End result, I eventually got paid, they updated their terms, I never did business with them again. That was 6 years ago. I can't believe program owners are still so retarded.

The Judge · 12-04-2009, 02:08 AM

Seven page thread over $350, unbelievable

Playboy-Deak · 12-04-2009, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Just finished my updates. Another long day of work. Enjoyed spending my in between moments arguing points with everybody. Off to bed now. Later y'all.

Hi Robbie! Nice to meetcha, I was jus wondering... You do know this thread isn't about you don't you? Ok now, enjoy the rest of your life...

Va2k · 12-04-2009, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Just finished my updates. Another long day of work. Enjoyed spending my in between moments arguing points with everybody. Off to bed now. Later y'all.

You're a piece of work!

NetHorse · 12-04-2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Judge

Seven page thread over $350, unbelievable

The curious cash thread is 28 pages over $105, bad PR is cheap!

boneless · 12-04-2009, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

The curious cash thread is 28 pages over $105, bad PR is cheap!

so this should go for what? at least 60 pages???

Too bad this aint solved yet. the writing is on the wall yet some of us still need glasses to read it

suesheboy · 12-04-2009, 05:17 AM

Worst business decision ever.

howilostmybusinessforlessthan400.com

nikad · 12-04-2009, 05:36 AM

It was not in your TOS, you owe Shoehorn money, period. Now you can change everything you want and do not pay for this kind of sales, but as of now, you owe him money, if you do not pay him you are stealing from him.

Phil · 12-04-2009, 06:21 AM

Shit.
I gave out exact .net domains for free to our top affiliates. Sale is a fucking sale.

nikki99 · 12-04-2009, 06:29 AM

wow this thread keep going and going

habibjr · 12-04-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

wow this thread keep going and going

and going..

2MuchMark · 12-04-2009, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty D

Do any programs allow affiliates to purchase the exact spelling of the paysite domain in google?

The Shoehorn method.
This is a great way to siphon off typeins.

Affiliate programs would be wise to check and see if any affiliates are siphoning off the typeins.

I'd like to add my two cents if I may.

A "Typein", is someone opening a browser, and without going to google or anywhere else, just typing in a domain name. "Sex.com" did wonders for us back in the day thanks to type-in traffic. If someone buys a sound-alike or spell-alike domain name similar to yours, you are out of luck unless you want to have a costly legal battle. But if that person sends you that traffic, count your blessings, pay him the commission, and buy him a beer. Offer to buy the domain from him perhaps.

A "PCC" is a pay per click. Shoehorn's work appeared in Google searches, generating more sales for you. Regardless of how it was done, he obviously did something that you had not thought of, and, sent you that traffic anyway. Again, count your blessings, pay him his commish.

Of course you can disallow this practice in your TOS and if it was there when Shoehorn began prooting, then of course you can chose to enforce it. However, had it been anyone else all the traffic it generated could have gone to a competing site instead.

Peace!

Lace · 12-04-2009, 07:45 AM

Jesus people get dumber and dumber every day.

Twistys Tim · 12-04-2009, 07:47 AM

Hey ShoeHorn -- Hit me up so we can talk about PPC traffic.

selena · 12-04-2009, 07:59 AM

I don't see how this is debatable, personally. If the means of traffic generation wasn't fraudulent...and it is not...and it is not disallowed in the TOS, then the affiliate gets paid.

Change the TOS to avoid it in the future if you want, but he should be paid.

End of story.

Disclaimer: This is solely my opinion, not the opinion of 3xTom, That One Program, JayMan Cash, or the man in the moon.

will76 · 12-04-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT

Shit.
I gave out exact .net domains for free to our top affiliates. Sale is a fucking sale.

amen. some companies want affiliate sales, some want to be anal.

on a side note most mainstream companies pull this shit, where as most adult do not. But the mainstream companies are very upfront about it, and in some cases its because their domains are trademarked. But i still think it is gay, how do you turn down sales.

Would love to see what HowIGotRich had to say if shoehorn kept doing what he was doing but sent the traffic to another similar pay site. Then they would be kicking themselves because they wouldn't be making shit from his traffic.

Tjeezers · 12-04-2009, 08:06 AM

I have no beef with sponsors.
If i would ever spend money for a Paid Campaign, I will for sure talk first with the program itself to make sure I know where my traffic aka investment will end up.

I know D as a person, and as affiliate i have the pleasure to sell his sites for years, and he has a straight way of dealing with people. I am sure he is willing to give affiliates a huge space of dealing about the issue, I have seen him always as a cooperative person. Try to work this out, give each other a phone call or something. This does not have to end bad. Sometimes you learn on the spot, and ya need to give in and swallow. Whomever has to do that here, just do it and get over it. December has started, to late for drama....

candyflip · 12-04-2009, 08:23 AM

I had a feeling I'd get a few pages into this thread and see Robbie sucking Dirty D's cock and I was right.

SleazyDream · 12-04-2009, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Looks like BS to me.

The man is owed his full join payments. If D want's to pay the man THEN change his TOS and move forward from here that's the ONLY compromise that makes any sense.

i'm kinda on this page too...

SleazyDream · 12-04-2009, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No, they DO say that over and over and over. Including the stupid quote I put in my post. That guy called DIRTY D stupid and said HE didn't understand marketing. And then went on to claim that Dirty D should pay Shoehorn a 2 to 3,000 dollar consulting fee.

Maybe we aren't reading the same threads here or something. But I'm seeing people being vitriolic and smart asses and talking about "hard working affiliates"

I AM a hard working affiliate. And I don't buy a fucking ad word. That isn't work. That isn't marketing.

And that is what I was addressing. All the idiots on here running down a man's business with their goddamn ignorance.

Whether or not Dirty D is going to pay ShoeHorn is up to them. I have no opinion on that. I just don't like seeing a person's business being beat up by a bunch of no-nothing people.

If I were ShoeHorn I'd take him up on that $100 PPS for a month offer and work my ass off to bankrupt Dirty D with all the sales I'd send. But again, that's between the two of them.

Robbie I love you, but I got a problem with your logic here.

anything that generates traffic is work. Just cause it isn't the work you and I are used to doesn't mean it isn't work. If it makes more or less than we can make, it doesn't mean it isn't work. Buying search terms is work, might not be your kind of work, but it's work.

example - say he buys terms that make him $100/month each. Well he would have to buy and track a LOT of terms to make a living doing that. It's investment of capital buying the terms and it's work and time monitoring them and putting the ad buys in.
Buying ad terms is work, sometimes they get lucky, sometimes they don't, just like us building galleries and banners and such. What you are saying is like saying that a garbage man doesn't work cause it's not as glamorous or take as much intelligence as a stock broker.

Next - the 100PPS isn't per sale, it was for 5 sales or $20PPS each reduced from $30PPS- Shoehorn wasn't clear about it - it fucked me up at the beginning of this thread too. Reread the beginning 2 pages.

I agree DirtyD has a right to restrict specific terms in his TOS. But if he didn't have it in there, pay it and change all deals from that point on. And THANK Shoehorn for informing him about it. A deals a deal, capitalism is based on that.

just my

mona · 12-04-2009, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine

We saw the screenshot: it was "crackwhore confessions", not "crackwhoreconfessions.com".

If I typed in "crackwhore confessions", I might be looking for the site itself... but I might also be looking for a random place to find some of the videos. Which would be accomplished by simply scrolling down and going for rapidlibrary or filestube.

Since the crackwhoreconfessions.com listing looks like shit, it actually wouldn't be as enticing as the listings below it. Since some of those listings don't go to pages promoting the site at all, that's a problem.

Adwords offers a solution to that. It allows you to create a prettier listing that confers a message rather than containing some keywords. A message like "Watch hundreds of crackwhores get their holes used right now for just $29.99!" among the listings might just make the surfer think "Hey! That's pretty cheap for getting off right now!" and prevent him from ever scrolling down and discovering the free alternatives.

Hell, we could just look at one of your sites, ClaudiaMarie.com. The second listing is "Claudia Marie Picture and Movies at FreeOnes" - which contains more than enough free galleries to get most surfers off.

An Adwords listing for Claudia Marie which mentions the price and points immediately to a custom join page could well result in a few additional signups each month, from people who would be satisfied by free galleries otherwise

CaptainHowdy · 12-04-2009, 09:02 AM

This is just sad, you don't only have to work but also fight to get paid...

Quagmire · 12-04-2009, 09:31 AM

All over a few hundred bucks? C'mon... Not paying him is just plain stupid.

BradM · 12-04-2009, 09:37 AM

I would hate to be in D's position. Needing $350 so bad he ruins his reputation over false logic.
Now is not the time to "take a stand" on principals. I mean let's face it... you run crackwhore confessionals.

lagcam · 12-04-2009, 10:01 AM

This thread should have been over pages ago as it is a pretty open and shut case that the guy should be paid out and the sponsor should change his TOS if he doesn't want this kind of traffic.

I can understand the sponsor "taking a stand on principle" if he feels that the affiliate did something inappropriate, but in this case the affiliate just realised that the sponsor had left an opportunity open, and by continuing to deny that the payment is due, the sponsor is only going to hurt his own business as he is likely to lose more than just the sales from this one affiliate.

The truest statement in this thread is probably Will76 saying, "better he sent the sale to you than to a competitor" (which if I was him I would probably do now)

will76 · 12-04-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tjeezers

I have no beef with sponsors.
If i would ever spend money for a Paid Campaign, I will for sure talk first with the program itself to make sure I know where my traffic aka investment will end up.

and that is not the way it works... " hi sponsor I am about to spend money to send you traffic today, everything ok? " Sponsors wouldn't want this either as it would be a lot of wasted time for them to. That is why they list what is ok and what is not in their TOS and on their site.

He runs a site that has an affiliate program, there is an assumption that.... affiliates will actually spend money to send him traffic. Every affiliate shouldn't have to ok every traffic buy they do every day for every damn sponsor, since it sounds like you are bro bro with dirty D, you trying to put the blame back on the affiliate in this case, when you don't know what you are talking about.

jigg · 12-04-2009, 10:14 AM

bump for Shoehorn

xxweekxx · 12-04-2009, 10:47 AM

pay the man, i guarantee you will lose A LOT more than $350 or whatever because of this thread.. heck personally i push a lot of volume and ill never consider you just because you are coming off as a slimy scumbag.

anyway, in mainstream, companies put the terms you cant bid on in their TOS, if they dont have it, and i bid on it, then they will 100% pay...

youve had at least 100 people tell you to pay him here, yet you are acting like a thick headed dumb fuck.. i hate when im owed for no fucking good reason, so ill make sure this stays on top so this dude can get paid.. asshole

Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 10:47 AM

Do the right thing Dirty D.

Penrod · 12-04-2009, 10:49 AM

Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

escorpio · 12-04-2009, 11:10 AM

Petty squabbles with affiliates using loopy logic to justify nonpayment is usually a sign that a program is tanking hard and fast.

Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 11:22 AM

Here is an example of a mainstream affiliate programs PPC terms.

Do the right thing and pay me Dirty D.

Shoehorn! · 12-04-2009, 11:56 AM

A new pay period just rolled over, and I am now owed $477 dollars. Thats right, Dirty D continued to accept my traffic and sales the entire month of October.

Do the right thing and pay your affiliates Dirty D.

CunningStunt · 12-04-2009, 12:04 PM

LOLz @ the screenshot Shoehorn, this thread keeps getting better.

Good luck, I hate seeing programs screw webmasters like this, I've been on the receiving end of assholes like this too.

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jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	no understanding of PPC, that's what this is. Some of the bigger mainstream companies have both organic listings and do PPC. I'd be curious what would happen if an affiliate with great SEO skills got the top 3 organic spots? Good thing I saw this thread, had a HowIGotRich campaign lined up with $500-day budget that just got erased The risk is simply not worth it. And any affiliate promoting this program should be on their toes, since who knows what new rule may be made 3 days from now that will cost you yours comissions

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CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	Robbie, wtf, lost total respect for you, you're just out to troll and nothing else. Pathetic really. It's black and white, it was't in the T&C, he should be paid. I fought 8 months with those assholes at william hill (UK betting co) over a 5 figure payout over the exact same thing. End result, I eventually got paid, they updated their terms, I never did business with them again. That was 6 years ago. I can't believe program owners are still so retarded.

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BradM Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: 1123,6536,5231 Posts: 3,397	I would hate to be in D's position. Needing $350 so bad he ruins his reputation over false logic. Now is not the time to "take a stand" on principals. I mean let's face it... you run crackwhore confessionals.

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lagcam Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,892	This thread should have been over pages ago as it is a pretty open and shut case that the guy should be paid out and the sponsor should change his TOS if he doesn't want this kind of traffic. I can understand the sponsor "taking a stand on principle" if he feels that the affiliate did something inappropriate, but in this case the affiliate just realised that the sponsor had left an opportunity open, and by continuing to deny that the payment is due, the sponsor is only going to hurt his own business as he is likely to lose more than just the sales from this one affiliate. The truest statement in this thread is probably Will76 saying, "better he sent the sale to you than to a competitor" (which if I was him I would probably do now) __________________ Working Cam site for sale - NOT affiliate.

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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	pay the man, i guarantee you will lose A LOT more than $350 or whatever because of this thread.. heck personally i push a lot of volume and ill never consider you just because you are coming off as a slimy scumbag. anyway, in mainstream, companies put the terms you cant bid on in their TOS, if they dont have it, and i bid on it, then they will 100% pay... youve had at least 100 people tell you to pay him here, yet you are acting like a thick headed dumb fuck.. i hate when im owed for no fucking good reason, so ill make sure this stays on top so this dude can get paid.. asshole __________________ _________________ I am the best

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12-04-2009, 10:49 AM	#346
Penrod Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,578	Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap

12-04-2009, 11:10 AM	#347
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 22,801	Petty squabbles with affiliates using loopy logic to justify nonpayment is usually a sign that a program is tanking hard and fast. __________________ Unvaxxed, still alive.

12-04-2009, 11:22 AM	#348
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	Here is an example of a mainstream affiliate programs PPC terms. Do the right thing and pay me Dirty D. __________________

12-04-2009, 11:56 AM	#349
Shoehorn! Die With Your Boots On Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Hawaii Posts: 22,872	A new pay period just rolled over, and I am now owed $477 dollars. Thats right, Dirty D continued to accept my traffic and sales the entire month of October. Do the right thing and pay your affiliates Dirty D. __________________

12-04-2009, 12:04 PM	#350
CunningStunt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,594	LOLz @ the screenshot Shoehorn, this thread keeps getting better. Good luck, I hate seeing programs screw webmasters like this, I've been on the receiving end of assholes like this too.