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Old 12-12-2009, 10:48 AM   #1
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Business Thread: CCBill Direct Pay EU

I was wonder if "Direct Pay Eu" by CCBill is worth messing with. Right now I just except credit cards through them. Am I missing out on sales? What percent of your sales are through "Direct Pay EU"?
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:21 PM   #2
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I don't know if it's worth messing with, vink. Good luck in trying to figure that out.
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:25 PM   #3
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Old 12-12-2009, 08:57 PM   #4
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Even if you're missing just one or two sales it seems worth it, no? The more options the better I say.

Hit me up if you would like some more information.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:03 AM   #5
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When you guys gonna payout webmasters with epass? That would make you the ULTIMATE biller. Hands down, you would rule the universe and all other billers would get in line to get a whiff of your nuts.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:10 AM   #6
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll set it up next week.
Paul, I'm hitting you up on icq.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #7
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When you guys gonna payout webmasters with epass? That would make you the ULTIMATE biller. Hands down, you would rule the universe and all other billers would get in line to get a whiff of your nuts.
Don't you have a bank account to accept wires?
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:47 PM   #8
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Don't you have a bank account to accept wires?
Tax evasion.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:58 PM   #9
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When you guys gonna payout webmasters with epass? That would make you the ULTIMATE biller. Hands down, you would rule the universe and all other billers would get in line to get a whiff of your nuts.
Never going to happen for many reasons, three of which are:

1. They make money on wire transfer fees
2. They benefit from keepng the money in the bank longer while checks are distributed and cleared.
3. They actually like to have a reasonable confidence they know their client's name which they would not get with epassporte.

Not knocking ccbill. They stay in business because they think like a business.

However, about ccbill Direct Pay EU.....

On the plus side: You could possibly get sales from people in europe with no credit card

On the minus side: These people have access to your site instantly, and in 3 days or so you *may* get paid, and you *may* not. If you do not, you will have to pay a "small" fee.

Conclusion: Will appeal to some but not everyone.

A better solution is the other type of bank debit (not offered by ccbill) where the customer waits for access till you have the money.

Now THAT would be a good thing for ccbill to offer......
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:56 PM   #10
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Don't you have a bank account to accept wires?
Its not for me jack ass. I'm speaking generally, this is the one thing they lack.

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Never going to happen for many reasons, three of which are:

1. They make money on wire transfer fees
2. They benefit from keepng the money in the bank longer while checks are distributed and cleared.
3. They actually like to have a reasonable confidence they know their client's name which they would not get with epassporte.

Not knocking ccbill. They stay in business because they think like a business.

However, about ccbill Direct Pay EU.....

On the plus side: You could possibly get sales from people in europe with no credit card

On the minus side: These people have access to your site instantly, and in 3 days or so you *may* get paid, and you *may* not. If you do not, you will have to pay a "small" fee.

Conclusion: Will appeal to some but not everyone.

A better solution is the other type of bank debit (not offered by ccbill) where the customer waits for access till you have the money.

Now THAT would be a good thing for ccbill to offer......
You're probably right. Though, it would open a lot of programs up to a large affiliate base while not being forced into a system like NATS or MPA3. Paying out epass to so many in other countries while only using ccbill would be wonderful.

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Tax evasion.
If you knew ANYTHING about this business you would know many Asian and European webmasters don't have bank accounts or it's too much of a hassle to deal with them, thus wanting epass as a quick solution. Nig.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:39 PM   #11
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I was wonder if "Direct Pay Eu" by CCBill is worth messing with. Right now I just except credit cards through them. Am I missing out on sales? What percent of your sales are through "Direct Pay EU"?
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Can someone tell me how "direct pay eu" works?? I am with ccbill and have not heard about this.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:56 PM   #12
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If you go to amazon.de the main form of checkout is DirectDebit so its a very useful service to offer your European customers...

For those running NATS or other systems feel free to hit me up about adding EU DirectDebit to your current cascade and look for big news in the coming weeks for those using CCbill...
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:15 PM   #13
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If you knew ANYTHING about this business you would know many Asian and European webmasters don't have bank accounts or it's too much of a hassle to deal with them, thus wanting epass as a quick solution. Nig.
Yep. Too much of a hassle to run a online business like an actual business.

Got it.

Thanks for the tip champ.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:49 PM   #14
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Yep. Too much of a hassle to run a online business like an actual business.

Got it.

Thanks for the tip champ.
You ever left the comforts of the USA?

Many countries simply do not make it easy to get bank accounts, some countries are too unstable to put your money in a bank, and some countries the people simply don't believe in them.

There are plenty of good reasons to not want to use (or can't use) a bank account, none of which have anything to do with illegal activity.

If you ever spent time on this earth, doing business in other countries, you would know this. Why do Americans always have their heads up their own ass?
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:53 PM   #15
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and look for big news in the coming weeks for those using CCbill...
Give us a hint mate? I'm always looking for more ccbill tools.
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