First Review of my new project - Quiet - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

Rochard · 12-14-2009, 04:37 PM

Oh, I should add in I'll be sending traffic to it.

Nicky · 12-14-2009, 04:38 PM

101 new English words

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

101 new English words

lets hope

PamiebDVD · 12-14-2009, 04:44 PM

Thanks for the sneak peek!

It's unique in it's approach and definitely has a broad appeal.

seeric · 12-14-2009, 05:09 PM

i think it's an interesting approach. i think it could sell on free porn sites. good non compete up sell for people to give a shot. good luck sleazy.

Juicy D. Links · 12-14-2009, 05:09 PM

Elite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 05:10 PM

anyone wanting a sneak peek hit me up

just waiting on visa approval now.....everything's ready to go

105 173 197

MeganS · 12-14-2009, 05:27 PM

I also thought it was very unique when Scott sent it to me. Very Niche. I agree with the copy cats like Rochard said.

And i the only suggestion i had was better music for the videos. A few of them were too techno for me and considering how long the videos are that could get annoying!

xxweekxx · 12-14-2009, 05:42 PM

sleazy i got good traffic, if its unique i can send thousands to it daily, email it to me and ill take a peek and review it

dozie@priceseekmarketing((())).com))

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

sleazy i got good traffic, if its unique i can send thousands to it daily, email it to me and ill take a peek and review it

dozie@priceseekmarketing((())).com))

send me an icq for a sneek peek - not visa approved yet but very soon

xxweekxx · 12-14-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleazydream

send me an icq for a sneek peek - not visa approved yet but very soon

105 173 197 ??

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

105 173 197 ??

oh shit - i think i'm dyslic

105 713 197

sorry

ArielRebel · 12-14-2009, 06:06 PM

I like the logo but it still look like an unfinished project for me...

I think you should change the thumbs pics and the text font and size

The general layout could use a bit of design...

Browse the net to find ideas ;)

But this idea is GREAT! I wish you all the luck on this project!

Evil Chris · 12-14-2009, 08:23 PM

What I said when I saw it was.... new and different.

Hope it works out BIG for you Sleazy.

Loki · 12-14-2009, 08:40 PM

I don't normally mark out to people, but I'm going to HAVE to make an exception here lol

I just got done looking at <nope sorry not telling> and at first I was like WTF?, then I dug a bit deeper and I was like WTF!

I'm not big on buying memberships to paysites but I WOULD signup to <nope sorry not telling>, well if I were <nope sorry not telling> and needed to <nope sorry not telling> and <nope sorry not telling> oh and <nope sorry not telling>

You got one hell of a concept there, and YES I agree that there will be a handful of copy/cats in the next few months lol.

We'll deff send you some traffic when your ready, and if you'd like to talk some nice clean cross sales or members area upsells you know how to reach me.

-Loki-

PS the <nope sorry not telling> is NOT a copy of the other post in this thread lol

xxweekxx · 12-14-2009, 08:41 PM

Just saw it, pretty fucking nice man.. fresh and nice

However, do you think you have enough content to keep them recurring?

Also are you using geo pricing? it is asking me for 30 bones down here in panama...

otherwise sweet site, ill send some traffic to it once its going..

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx

Just saw it, pretty fucking nice man.. fresh and nice

However, do you think you have enough content to keep them recurring?

Also are you using geo pricing? it is asking me for 30 bones down here in panama...

otherwise sweet site, ill send some traffic to it once its going..

ccbill has a few price options in different currencies

baddog · 12-14-2009, 09:06 PM

Wow. At first I was thinking the domain name wasn't very keyword friendly, and as a result probably went in there with a negative attitude.

However, after going in a little deeper and understanding the past success of sites pushing this niche, I have to think you have a winner here.

TampaToker · 12-14-2009, 09:49 PM

Not a bad domain at all considering the content of the site. Its a good concept for adult but to me it feels to me to mainstream. The tour is basic in design but the surfer will definitely know what he is getting.

My main concern will there be enough content to keep members re billing. Hard to tell without seeing the inside. This would be a good members area up sale or a great sale to non hardcore porn users. I seen Sleazy knows ths wont be the next big thing which it wont but like he said he will have his own corner

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TampaToker

Not a bad domain at all considering the content of the site. Its a good concept for adult but to me it feels to me to mainstream. The tour is basic in design but the surfer will definitely know what he is getting.

My main concern will there be enough content to keep members re billing. Hard to tell without seeing the inside. This would be a good members area up sale or a great sale to non hardcore porn users. I seen Sleazy knows ths wont be the next big thing which it wont but like he said he will have his own corner

once i launch there will be at a min one or two updates every day - i'm a tgp guy - we add every day.... it's designed to grow and grow

Robbie · 12-14-2009, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog

Wow. At first I was thinking the domain name wasn't very keyword friendly, and as a result probably went in there with a negative attitude.

However, after going in a little deeper and understanding the past success of sites pushing this niche, I have to think you have a winner here.

Yeah, I think that the <censored by SleazyDream>.com domain name is going to be perfect for this!

Robbie · 12-14-2009, 10:00 PM

Goddamnit that automatic SleazyDream censoring thingy got me again!

stever · 12-14-2009, 11:09 PM

ok so here is my review - if anyone cares

firstly i gotta say its interesting

but i think this is better as an ebook or as a 1 time sale
i dont see it having any value as a monthly membership

also one down side is you are giving away almost everything for free so i dont see any value as an initial sale either with your current setup

well you asked for a review so here is what i think

ShellyCrash · 12-14-2009, 11:28 PM

I like the concept. I see alot of synergies with other successful properties without directly competing with any product or service I'm aware of.

I think design wise it needs a little bit of help but not too much. I don't think you need to have a huge flashy tour, but maybe just smooth the rough edges and the copy could use a little more punch. I think it's key to keep it as clean as possible. E-books were mentioned once or twice, what I will say on that tip- while it's NOT an ebook I would try to design it with an educational vibe in mind. Seems like that may be what you are going for already.

When you can, I would hook up with FletchXXX. His straight forward no bullshit approach would be a really good match with this.

Again, graphically you don't need much. I subscribe to the ugly pretty philosophy, but I think it does need a touch of spit and pollish to gain consumer confidence and secure a card swipe.

SleazyDream · 12-14-2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

When you can, I would hook up with FletchXXX. His straight forward no bullshit approach would be a really good match with this.

FletchXXX helped design a lot of it LOL

ShellyCrash · 12-14-2009, 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

FletchXXX helped design a lot of it LOL

Well, at least I feel I did a good job matching the project style wise to the designer ;)

Tippy · 12-15-2009, 12:10 AM

I've been following your posts/threads, gonna have to check it out once the cat is out of the bag... you've had my curiosity/attention for the past few days, I have no idea what your up to but I'm intrigued...

Sexy Rex · 12-15-2009, 01:59 AM

I believe it needs a bit of tweaking, mostly on explaining the surfer what is he buying exactly imho, but I like the site and its niche, could do really well

Congratulations!

12-15-2009, 02:19 AM

hype central!

JD · 12-15-2009, 04:24 AM

god damn it... email me the site yo. i'm curious and won't "tell on you"

see sig

awxm · 12-15-2009, 04:42 AM

Just post the url already

Jay_StandAhead · 12-15-2009, 05:28 AM

I really like the idea - like a few others, I was surprised I've never seen a site like that before, but I really think it has lots of potential. As a non-compete upsell, we should see banners for that in most members area eventually

And it's a perfect ad for all tubes

Mock NyaMout · 12-15-2009, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links

Elite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like http://EthnicElite.com ?

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FruitPanda

Just post the url already

i'm waiting for visa approval...........

BVF · 12-15-2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

anyone wanting a sneak peek hit me up

just waiting on visa approval now.....everything's ready to go

105 173 197

I would've sworn that you made a thread stating that visa already approved you.

fuzebox · 12-15-2009, 08:54 AM

Hrm, well it is a unique way of packaging content, which is good... I think the tour could use a harder sell, and for the first couple of minutes I was confused what the surfer was actually getting for their money.

I'm skeptical whether it will sell on traditional porn traffic but I'll be very interested to see the initial results once it's launched.

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BVF

I would've sworn that you made a thread stating that visa already approved you.

ccbill approved me - as you've probably forgot as it's so long ago for you as you've been onling forever ;) - what happens is ccbill approves you first and you get mastercard and a few others right away - and you wait for visa.... they just add it when approval for visa comes in

Miz_Wright · 12-15-2009, 09:01 AM

Sleazy, this is good stuff.

It's a really nice take on [redacted] and should clear up a lot of the [redacted] about [redacted].

Martin · 12-15-2009, 09:26 AM

I tried to hit you up via the icq you provided and got --> cindy sam salas

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin

I tried to hit you up via the icq you provided and got --> cindy sam salas

icq 105 713 197 - sleazydream

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 09:48 AM

you wouldn't believe how many icqs I get from people asking to see this program that disappear when I simply ask what sites do they run first....

weird....

you wouldn't think that was such a hard question......

creepy actually.....

jimmy-3-way · 12-15-2009, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you wouldn't believe how many icqs I get from people asking to see this program that disappear when I simply ask what sites do they run first....

weird....

you wouldn't think that was such a hard question......

creepy actually.....

Geez, I was just trying to keep my stuff on the DL.

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Geez, I was just trying to keep my stuff on the DL.

dude - you answered - the really creepy ones just disappear when i ask the question

Martin · 12-15-2009, 10:13 AM

I like it Scott. Best of luck man

TheStout · 12-15-2009, 10:23 AM

The mystery hooked me. Good job Scott. Other than a few minor design things I think the site is a good idea. Good luck man. The name is catchy

Agent 488 · 12-15-2009, 10:27 AM

it like asking your friends if you look like you lost wweight on you plenty of fish profile. of course many are going to be judicious.

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

it like asking your friends if you look like you lost wweight on you plenty of fish profile. of course many are going to be judicious.

or posting on gfy with a hidden identity....

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 11:21 AM

oh my god - oh my god!!!!!!! i got my FIRST ranking by alexa today!!!!!!!!!!

traffic rank - 12,500,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MikeFold · 12-15-2009, 12:16 PM

if quiet can take a minute to review, well, so can I...
definitely a different approach.....(made a few suggestions privately) since i am old time and washed up and probably have no clue what i am saying....i think it can work with a little design tweaking and tightening up the internal links (navigation)

but i will never forget the cancun dinner at ruth chris with jessica simpson and nick lachey (sp?) sandwiched between 4 or 5 tables of adult webmasters.....

SleazyDream · 12-15-2009, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeFold

if quiet can take a minute to review, well, so can I...
definitely a different approach.....(made a few suggestions privately) since i am old time and washed up and probably have no clue what i am saying....i think it can work with a little design tweaking and tightening up the internal links (navigation)

but i will never forget the cancun dinner at ruth chris with jessica simpson and nick lachey (sp?) sandwiched between 4 or 5 tables of adult webmasters.....

that was a fun night! esp the food fight

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12-14-2009, 05:10 PM	#107
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12-14-2009, 05:27 PM	#108
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seeric .......... Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: .......... Posts: 41,917	i think it's an interesting approach. i think it could sell on free porn sites. good non compete up sell for people to give a shot. good luck sleazy.

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12-14-2009, 05:42 PM	#109
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12-14-2009, 06:06 PM	#113
ArielRebel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 1,479	I like the logo but it still look like an unfinished project for me... I think you should change the thumbs pics and the text font and size The general layout could use a bit of design... Browse the net to find ideas ;) But this idea is GREAT! I wish you all the luck on this project! __________________ ArielRebel.com - RebelMayhem - Zesty & Spicy - Twitter - Instagram

12-14-2009, 08:23 PM	#114
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12-14-2009, 08:40 PM	#115
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12-14-2009, 08:41 PM	#116
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	Just saw it, pretty fucking nice man.. fresh and nice However, do you think you have enough content to keep them recurring? Also are you using geo pricing? it is asking me for 30 bones down here in panama... otherwise sweet site, ill send some traffic to it once its going.. __________________ _________________ I am the best

12-14-2009, 09:06 PM	#118
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,090	Wow. At first I was thinking the domain name wasn't very keyword friendly, and as a result probably went in there with a negative attitude. However, after going in a little deeper and understanding the past success of sites pushing this niche, I have to think you have a winner here.

12-14-2009, 09:49 PM	#119
TampaToker Confirmed User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,827	Not a bad domain at all considering the content of the site. Its a good concept for adult but to me it feels to me to mainstream. The tour is basic in design but the surfer will definitely know what he is getting. My main concern will there be enough content to keep members re billing. Hard to tell without seeing the inside. This would be a good members area up sale or a great sale to non hardcore porn users. I seen Sleazy knows ths wont be the next big thing which it wont but like he said he will have his own corner

12-14-2009, 10:00 PM	#122
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12-14-2009, 11:09 PM	#123
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12-14-2009, 11:28 PM	#124
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12-15-2009, 12:10 AM	#127
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12-15-2009, 02:19 AM	#129
Altwebdesign Guest Posts: n/a	hype central!

12-15-2009, 04:24 AM	#130
JD Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 22,651	god damn it... email me the site yo. i'm curious and won't "tell on you" see sig

12-15-2009, 04:42 AM	#131
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12-15-2009, 05:28 AM	#132
Jay_StandAhead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,103	I really like the idea - like a few others, I was surprised I've never seen a site like that before, but I really think it has lots of potential. As a non-compete upsell, we should see banners for that in most members area eventually And it's a perfect ad for all tubes __________________ Our Programs: StandAhead \| IndieBucks \| BoyCrushCash \| Phoenixxx \| EmoProfits \| BritishBucks \| HunkMoney \| LatinoBucks Make $$$ with Gay! Lowest Minimum Payouts in the Business, Perfect Track Record, Amazing Sites

12-15-2009, 08:54 AM	#136
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,004	Hrm, well it is a unique way of packaging content, which is good... I think the tour could use a harder sell, and for the first couple of minutes I was confused what the surfer was actually getting for their money. I'm skeptical whether it will sell on traditional porn traffic but I'll be very interested to see the initial results once it's launched.

12-15-2009, 09:01 AM	#138
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12-15-2009, 09:26 AM	#139
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12-15-2009, 09:48 AM	#141
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	you wouldn't believe how many icqs I get from people asking to see this program that disappear when I simply ask what sites do they run first.... weird.... you wouldn't think that was such a hard question...... creepy actually..... __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

12-15-2009, 10:13 AM	#144
Martin "Assassins" Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: At home Posts: 17,277	I like it Scott. Best of luck man __________________

12-15-2009, 10:23 AM	#145
TheStout Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,089	The mystery hooked me. Good job Scott. Other than a few minor design things I think the site is a good idea. Good luck man. The name is catchy

12-15-2009, 10:27 AM	#146
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	it like asking your friends if you look like you lost wweight on you plenty of fish profile. of course many are going to be judicious.

12-15-2009, 11:21 AM	#148
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	oh my god - oh my god!!!!!!! i got my FIRST ranking by alexa today!!!!!!!!!! traffic rank - 12,500,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

12-15-2009, 12:16 PM	#149
MikeFold Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: semi-retired Posts: 465	if quiet can take a minute to review, well, so can I... definitely a different approach.....(made a few suggestions privately) since i am old time and washed up and probably have no clue what i am saying....i think it can work with a little design tweaking and tightening up the internal links (navigation) but i will never forget the cancun dinner at ruth chris with jessica simpson and nick lachey (sp?) sandwiched between 4 or 5 tables of adult webmasters..... __________________ nothing to promote Last edited by MikeFold; 12-15-2009 at 12:18 PM..