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Old 12-30-2009, 08:22 PM   #51
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Yo whats up....DOC,

I offered him $500 in delay. He did not contact me one time prior to making the first thread about me, calling me a thief.
Lie. I did icq you, you ignored me. Doesn't matter it was your responsibility to deliver the agreed product in a timely manner which you didn't. Six weeks after I paid you you offer to do work I already found someone else to do? You said give me a couple days I'll epassporte you back the money, You didn't and now refuse to refund me. You are a thief.
I am sorry IF your grandma passed, but that is not my concern nor should it be the factor that determines if I get ripped off or not. Tell your mortgage company you can't make your house payment cause your grandma passed. Tell your power company your grandma died and you can't pay the power bill. It has been what three weeks since you said you will pay me back? Now you renig because I "insulted" your grandma. Umm ok. Hell if shit is that bad for you send me $25 a week until you pay me back. But no,you refuse to pay me anything back. You are a thief and a scum bag, justify not paying me all you want. Your a thief.
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AdultCreation ‎(8:29 PM):
you like it?
shows you I do not care
so eat a dick
yea I steal $150 from you
what do you want to do about it baldy

you insulted my grandmother
AdultCreation ‎(8:30 PM):
I looking forward to see you on the next amsterdam show
i'll be there for a change
in my m5
Choker ‎(8:30 PM):
I'll be in Miami in august if you want to pay a visit i dont go to amsterdamn
AdultCreation ‎(8:30 PM):
i do not like america
it's a shithole
sorry
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:26 PM   #53
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lol nah its a real girl i was just curious, you know how someone at a party breaks the ice with "anyone wanna have a JO circle?" someone has to get the ball rolling.
Wanna play soggy cookie, Steve?
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AdultCreation ‎(8:29 PM):
you like it?
shows you I do not care
so eat a dick
yea I steal $150 from you
what do you want to do about it baldy

you insulted my grandmother
AdultCreation ‎(8:30 PM):
I looking forward to see you on the next amsterdam show
i'll be there for a change
in my m5
Choker ‎(8:30 PM):
I'll be in Miami in august if you want to pay a visit i dont go to amsterdamn
AdultCreation ‎(8:30 PM):
i do not like america
it's a shithole
sorry
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:27 PM   #55
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AdultCreation ‎(8:29 PM):
you like it?
shows you I do not care
so eat a dick
yea I steal $150 from you
what do you want to do about it baldy

you insulted my grandmother
AdultCreation ‎(8:30 PM):
I looking forward to see you on the next amsterdam show
i'll be there for a change
in my m5
Choker ‎(8:30 PM):
I'll be in Miami in august if you want to pay a visit i dont go to amsterdamn
AdultCreation ‎(8:30 PM):
i do not like america
it's a shithole
sorry
Let me do inform you that posting ICQ logs is a violation of privacy.

Chokie, you told me you would go out with your family, lets get that Bentley rollin bro!
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:32 PM   #57
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Excuse me?
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:34 PM   #58
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Platinum ... I gotta say, we all make mistakes ... I made a couple recently. But you know ... after a while it's time to give it up. lol. You don't fight on the boards for all to see! Why don't you send back the $150 and say sorry. :/
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:37 PM   #59
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Platinum ... I gotta say, we all make mistakes ... I made a couple recently. But you know ... after a while it's time to give it up. lol. You don't fight on the boards for all to see! Why don't you send back the $150 and say sorry. :/
...it would be the most logical resolution.
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Platinum ... I gotta say, we all make mistakes ... I made a couple recently. But you know ... after a while it's time to give it up. lol. You don't fight on the boards for all to see! Why don't you send back the $150 and say sorry. :/
Dave....who are you to talk when you do not know the full details, persistently left out by the accusators.

This is not your business man.
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:40 PM   #62
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Chokie, you told me you would go out with your family, lets get that Bentley rollin bro!
QUICK SOMEONE CALL THE INTERNET POLICE, CHOKER POSTED ICQ LOGS, GET HIM LOCKED UP!!!

Get the fuck out of here kid...
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:41 PM   #63
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Dave....who are you to talk when you do not know the full details, persistently left out by the accusators.

This is not your business man.
I think hes just trying to throw out some mending suggestions. I see though you dont want to mend things.

Hes just trying to be a voice of peace. dont shoot him
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Old 12-30-2009, 08:43 PM   #64
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I think hes just trying to throw out some mending suggestions. I see though you dont want to mend things.

Hes just trying to be a voice of peace. dont shoot him
That's just another interpretation of words actually Deej
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Get the fuck out of here kid...
Ginger, quit sigwhoring - and program some decent shit, will ya.
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Right?

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Right?

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Dave....who are you to talk when you do not know the full details, persistently left out by the accusators.

This is not your business man.
I'm not talking about the details of it ... I'm talking about your reputation. Trying to be friendly here. You have shit talked solidly and it's being noticed by everyone. Don't burn bridges man. Mainstream may be hiring now, but what happens if they stop and you need to come to adult? You gotta keep your options open and be a good guy. So you feel you have a beef with Zuzana, you shouldn't shit talk her in her threads. If you weren't a designer, it'd not be so bad, but people don't listen to you, they just think you're being an ass. And I'm sure you're not an ass in reality. And in this thread, I'd have gone to the guy and spoken to him on ICQ, politely ... in fact, recently I had a similar situation. A guy here was pissed at me for my appauling behaviour. I still disagreed with some of the things he'd done, but we chatted it out, and we worked out some shit. And now I realise, not only is he a fucking nice guy, but maybe I was acting like a bit of a dick! So I'm talking from experience, not about your specific situation, but the backlash that can come from it.

Just sayin' dude, that it's better to keep shit private and organised even if you have to suck it up a little.

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Platinumpimp looks like 2010 isn't going to be pretty for you
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you insulted my grandmother
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I looking forward to see you on the next amsterdam show
i'll be there for a change
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I'll be in Miami in august if you want to pay a visit i dont go to amsterdamn
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i do not like america
it's a shithole
sorry
Is M5 the number of the bus you have to take to get to the show?
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In what way?
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Nah, it's the model of a car brand. The newest one.

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I'm doing good, blew a lot of money over the years, I've finally grown up and stopped blowing money on stupid shit like I used to. I hope to be able to retire totally within 5 years and travel a lot. I don't know I love working so much doubt I'll ever retire. My dating network is supporting me pretty good now and the gay traffic is taking off like a rocket. I'm always putting money I make into new ventures, some work, most fail. Dating and gay traffic is the future for me. I'm living in a 8000 square foot house on the intercoastal and funny thing is I'm tired of it. I miss the simple life. My daughter is pregnant so I'm gonna be a grandpa soon, this has really made me re-evaluate my life. I want to "downgrade" my lifestyle and make it simple again with lots of money in the bank for my kid and her kid. My daughter will be helping with my dating program and hopefully one day run it totally so I can take off and travel with my wife. I guess I'm at that point that there is nothing I want that I don't already have. My kids future is all that matters to me at this point.
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Dave....who are you to talk when you do not know the full details, persistently left out by the accusators.

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It's ''you're''

At least, when you come from the States, spell like one. Oh wait, you just did.
What is an accusator?
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Sigwhoring for what? I was paid 3 months ago for my signature, in full and it expires tomorrow night.. What do I need to sigwhore for?

How about you not worry about what I'm programming and pay back the people you stole from, Brokepimp.
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I see this clown is in Thailand. Someone get his real name to me and I can make sure he is picked up at immigration the next time he leaves or enters the country. The fact he is working on porno designs and logos while in the Kingdom makes him a criminal. I've already taken screen shots of his site, some of his work, and his postings here.

My 20+ years of high ranking contacts in that country come in very handy sometimes. If you seriously want him to spend some time in Bangkwan Prison, let me know. Yea, it will cost you a few bucks, but sometimes putting a little shit head like this away for 5 years in a third world hell hole is worth it.

I'm serious, so let me know. If you (any of you) have someone in Thailand, Cambodia, Hong Kong and Indonesia, I can get them locked up for a very long time. It will only cost you a little money.
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In what way?
You'd better hope Choker doesn't want you to spend the next 5 years of your life in hell. Pattaya boy. You're in my stomping grounds, and he pays me to lock you up, you're going bye-bye. You're not the first porno fuck face I've sent packing out of that country. Won't be the last either.

Don't believe me, ask this guy: http://www.mangosauce.com/news/vice_...in_pattaya.php

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I think you've burned plenty with this thread, at least any chance to do biz with those here. All name calling aside, you owe Choker the money he advanced you, why don't you just send him the $150 and be done with it. I'd be pissed as hell too if you owed me money and yet continued to try and solicit new biz here.
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You'd better hope Choker doesn't want you to spend the next 5 years of your life in hell. Pattaya boy. You're in my stomping grounds, and he pays me to lock you up, you're going bye-bye. You're not the first porno fuck face I've sent packing out of that country. Won't be the last either.

Don't believe me, ask this guy: http://www.mangosauce.com/news/vice_...in_pattaya.php

He'll tell you all about it.
As much as this tool is burying himself, you should just shut up and put your chest thumping to rest. Take your non existent Thai royalty connection and under the table connections and brag to someone who believes in what you are saying or even cares.

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this is why i never pre pay for design work any more.

last time i pre paid someone i got crap that i did not end up using useless crap.
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I got the same excuse from this person... Read the story below off my personal message board.. He seems to really be unstable and drunk for the new years calling me a whore and have some problems tonight.

What I Went Through Below from a different thread....

I saw you all over the board looking for work so I thought I would give you a logo for a PERSONAL project back in March. It was for my mainstream stuff for ME, and not for a client, so I could test you out to see how you were. Well, you went MIA for months on end, constantly giving excuses of family problems, until I finally got a logo design out that was absolutely horrible. I asked you for revisions and then you came to me asking for payment because you needed to pay hosting. All I ever got was excuse after excuse after excuse after that.

10-09-2009 = Consider it done before sunday.
10-14-2009 (Tuesday) = Hey Sarah sorry, I am currently working on it, I will post it here when done.

this is when I got a logo that looked like a recycling logo (not at all what I wanted). That same day I asked for some revisions

10-15-2009 = Hi Sarah, I will be comming up with a total new design tomorrow afternoon.
Can I ask you a favor though? I need to pay for my hosting and I just cashed my epassporte last week (forget this bill). Could you send me the $150.00 for the logo in advance? Don't worry I will make it work.

I paid $75 on 10-15-2009

10-16-2009 (me) = when do you think you'll have a few more to look at?
10-17-2009 (me) = Please let me know when you think you will have some more for me to look at.
10-19-2009 (AdultCreation) = Hi Sarah - I was out in the weekend. I am working on the new design as I write this message. Should be soon!
10-21-2009 (me) = Still waiting to see these.
10-22-2009 (AdultCreation) = Arghhhhh Sarah so sorry. Tomorrow you will have it sure thing.

still nothing.....

10-22-2009 (me)= This is getting to be completely unacceptable. I paid you 9 days ago and the excuses are getting really old. Send over the logos you should have already completed by now or send back the $75 I sent you

10-25-2009 (me) = Marvin, this is over. I am so dissatisfied with this whole process. You do realize how long it's been since I gave you money, right? The first logo you gave me was a recycling logo and nowhere in line with what I need. I see that you came to the board and viewed this thread and didn't even have the decency to respond to it. I don't want to continue with, since apparently you have no intention of providing what I paid you for. Please let me know as soon as my $75 has been returned

10-26-2009 (AdultCreation) = Sarah, I am sorry to have pushed your patience. I am always comming through, but I had a few personal problems (sickness) in my family which I do not wish to discuss, however they influenced my working schedule by much.

then he threw me a logo in which I said:

10-26-2009 (me) = I understand everyone has problems, but you told me 1 day on the 22nd and it's now the 26th. Even before that, I've had to push and push and push to see any kind of progress and each time, I'm met with a "I'm working on it" type excuse. In all honesty, this logo looks like it took you about 5 minutes and I don't think it's at all a representation of what you have in your portfolio. Regardless, as I said yesterday I'm not interested in working with you any further and would like to get a refund. No hard feelings, but I'm a designer and I know how long things take to get done. I just didn't have the time to do this myself and thought it would be good trial to pass you some work, but I'm just not impressed at all with the result or the time it's taken. I hope everything gets better with your family

10-28-2009 (me) = Please get in touch with me regarding my posts
10-30-2009 (me) = Hello? I would appreciate atleast a response to this. Just because you have problems doesn't excuse your lack of work before the incident and completely ignoring it now

11-02-2009 (me) = Had you been on time with your work prior to your family incident, I would have been much more understanding. You've been stringing me along since before you disappeared. It's a really good thing I didn't prepay you in full and this is a prime example of why I never prepay anyone that I haven't worked with before. Because here you sit with my money, and I don't have a usable logo and you weren't on time or reliable about any of it. The very first thing you said was "consider it done on Sunday" and then didn't post anything until that Wednesday, so this has been an issue since the beginning. Remember when I gave you this back in March? Then I came to you in May and you said you'd get them done in the next few days. Then you came back in July and said you were "busy with personal things". Then you came back in August saying you were having a "bad period of time". I can't keep this going on for months and months with this. Now it's because of family problems. Apparently this is an ongoing problem and I shouldn't have given you half down in the first place.

That's fine that your family comes first before your business. But it doesn't come before my business, especially when you give me no idication of what's going on. If you are going to ignore your work, that fine...but you forfeit any right to be upset or expect anything from the people who have been waiting on you while you made that decision. And those people you keep waiting have every right to expect a refund while you ignored them.

Why is it that you would be upset about your lost time, when it's YOU that put yourself in that situation? How about my lost time as your paying client that was relying on you to do my personal logo? It's not like you were doing exactly what you should have been doing and I just backed out. You left me hanging for days on end, completely ignoring me.

I told you on the 25th that I didn't want you to do this anymore. If you decided that day to try and push something out so you didn't have to give a refund, then I'm sorry. I didn't ask you to do that. I am so dissatisfied with how this was handled, with your time management, and with the empty promises of preview dates. That's not how I like to do business. I'm very unhappy since March when I originally gave you this and I don't want you to do it and I want a refund.

and it's been a losing battle ever since. I have not been able to get a single response from him and even gave him the option of trying out another personal logo, all of which was ignored until I posted in another thread. Then he suddenly wrote me on ICQ pissed off that I posted in the first place and saying that he does "design stuff for Pierre (worldsex), Richard (worldsex), Patrick (thehun)" and that all of this is just beer money to him.

Trying to throw out a comment that I'm outsourcing something to him when I actually hired him to work on a personal logo is a really sad attempt to lash out when he's backed into a corner. What's more, after making that comment he wrote asking if I wanted him to do another logo because "I never want to fight believe me."

My only reason for posting in this thread in the first place was because I got fucked on this project, and it seems that he's fucked over countless other people in attempts to get his "beer money" and I shouldn't have to hold back from saying anything about it
I've had almost exactly the same problems with mainstream designers I hired a few times for DTP work over the internet. I wanted to have a few "online" people that I could give work to when my in-house designers were busy with other stuff. It's just too tiring in the end...
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I think people shouldn't use their personal problems as excuses as to why they can't pay you. Everyone has personal problems, illnesses, etc...

How long does it take to make a payment? couple minutes? There is no excuse why a payment can't be made unless the person in question is in a hospital bed with no way to connect to the internet. If they can find the time to make an excuse they have enough time to pay you.


Excuses or are just excuses, a reason they think is good enough to not pay you because they either don't have the money or don't want to pay.
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As much as this tool is burying himself, you should just shut up and put your chest thumping to rest. Take your non existent Thai royalty connection and under the table connections and brag to someone who believes in what you are saying or even cares.
Whatever kid. Drop some cash along with his name and watch this prick go bye-bye.
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