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CyberHustler · 02-10-2010, 04:12 PM

Wow, that's fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up!

50 crazy bitches!

candyflip · 02-10-2010, 04:14 PM

Doesn't look good for Czarina if she's going to avoid this.

And if the site goes down in the next few days, you know she was up to something.

HomerSimpson · 02-10-2010, 04:28 PM

I have to say she (or he or whatever) looks good for a tranny...
and stats are also rockin'...

Ayla_SquareTurtle · 02-10-2010, 05:05 PM

Bump for an explanation.

Torn Rose · 02-10-2010, 06:15 PM

Bump for drama...

CamTraffic · 02-10-2010, 06:30 PM

WOW looks like you are in serious trouble, but i am sure you have an explanation ... there is always 2 versions

artwilliams · 02-10-2010, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaximX

Wow The entire site copied

Can you believe it? There are questions that need to be answered.

CyberHustler · 02-10-2010, 07:21 PM

Bump for an explanation... I hope there is one. I don't personally know her, but I hope she wouldn't be dumb enough to do this and destroy her rep. Like, you didn't think you would get caught doing some shit like that by flaunting your stats here?

Monique Niccole · 02-10-2010, 07:37 PM

Czarina has always had a good rep in the adult community. I would hope there's some plausible explanation of mixed signals between her and the model or something. Weird.

aphrophoto · 02-10-2010, 08:52 PM

so czarina have bought non exclusive content? i am not into this but

bDok · 02-10-2010, 09:13 PM

how horrible that shit like this was pulled.

promote Ana's site that is tried and tested. period.
http://tsmiamigoddess.com/goddess/
ftw

aphrophoto · 02-10-2010, 09:16 PM

tranny is best with ice

artwilliams · 02-10-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aphrophoto

so czarina have bought non exclusive content? i am not into this but

Czarina needs to clear this up! Why does she not post?

Farang · 02-10-2010, 10:32 PM

Ramster · 02-11-2010, 08:29 AM

nothing?

czarina · 02-11-2010, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

There is nothing new about this site other than you duplicating her site and saying that it is brand new.

TSMiamiGoddess has been on my server for many years now and I've known Ana since she came to the US some years ago. I consider her a close personal friend.

I just got off the phone with Ana after finding czarina's blog spam all over TSMiamiGoddess and the join buttons broken. Passwords to the server have been changed, join page has been restored from a backup and czarina spam is gone.

The only thing czarina has done is taken advantage of Ana's naivety after getting hired to do some design work for her.

WHAT?
Ana asked me personally to put the links to her blog on tsmiamigoddess.com since she's not using myspace anymore. She is updating her blog on anatranny.com herself.
I'm calling her right now on the phone. I'll be posting here once I talk to her.

czarina · 02-11-2010, 08:45 AM

Cleo: if you're accusing me of damaging the site TSMiamiGoddess.com in any way, you need to have server logs to prove it. I have done nothing but to help Ana with her site. And I myself told Ana not to get rid of TSMiamiGoddess.com since it was a source of income for her. (I keep all emails in case you need to see them). Remember, it was me who set up her live cam on TSMiamiGoddess a few weeks ago for her.

Ana and I have a contract for AnaTranny.com. So there's no drama here. I bet you're upset she didn't tell you about this. Oops!

This is my last post until I get Ana on the phone.

tonyparra · 02-11-2010, 08:48 AM

ruh roh lol

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina

Cleo: if you're accusing me of damaging the site TSMiamiGoddess.com in any way, you need to have server logs to prove it. I have done nothing but to help Ana with her site. And I myself told Ana not to get rid of TSMiamiGoddess.com since it was a source of income for her. (I keep all emails in case you need to see them). Remember, it was me who set up her live cam on TSMiamiGoddess a few weeks ago for her.

Actually you screwed up the code so bad on the join pages that that the links became unclickable. If it had just been the root tour then it would have been excusable since that is between you and Ana but you should know better than to add traffic links to an affiliate tour screwing over all her affiliates including me.

But then you should know better than to talk a model into letting you duplicate her site and setup a whole new affiliate program.

Or is this some new business model that you have come up with? Instead of joining an affiliate program duplicate everything and make your own affiliate program. Hey maybe Playboy would like you to do the same with their sites?

You have been in this biz for a long time so it isn't like you made some newbie mistake. You took advantage of Ana's naivety after getting hired to do some design work for her and convinced her to screw over all her existing affiliates by creating a duplicate of her site where none of them would get credit for sales.

Either that or you are just one dumb bitch.

czarina · 02-11-2010, 09:37 AM

I just talked to Ana on the phone.

Cleo: I don't know why you started all this drama. How dare you drag my name thru the mud accusing me of stealing Ana's site or content? Who do you think you are to make false accusations and say that I broke any links in TSMiamiGoddess or that I added any spam to her site?
THE ONLY CHANGES MADE TO TSMIAMIGODDESS WERE REQUESTED BY ANA (Ana is the owner of the site, NOT you). She even had to ask me TWICE to add the link to her blog to the site.

I have never stolen anything from anybody and much less a website design or content. Ana and I have a CONTRACT and a very good relationship. All along I have insisted that Ana continues with TSMiamiGoddess, I even installed her webcam on it, which has helped YOUR retention.

Ana told me she spoke to you on the phone a few minutes ago and that she cleared everything up. I would appreciate it if you retracted from your accusations here but I don't expect it.

Guys: Ana's site is not coming down. This is a legal site, the design is OWNED by Ana herself (both sites are owned by Ana), AnaTranny.com is being updated 3 or 4 times a week with new content, and there's no issues here.

czarina · 02-11-2010, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Actually you screwed up the code so bad on the join pages that that the links became unclickable. If it had just been the root tour then it would have been excusable since that is between you and Ana but you should know better than to add traffic links to an affiliate tour screwing over all her affiliates including me.

You and I both know I never touched the join page on that site.

Longboat full of Vikings · 02-11-2010, 09:42 AM

so you've made a total of 1 sale (at 1:40 signup page ratio - the real ratio is 1:1219)

we are supposed to be impressed, why?

selena · 02-11-2010, 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina

Guys: Ana's site is not coming down. This is a legal site, the design is OWNED by Ana herself (both sites are owned by Ana), AnaTranny.com is being updated 3 or 4 times a week with new content, and there's no issues here.

Okay, if both sites are owned by Ana, then why has she decided to mess with her affiliates by creating competing sites?

Longboat full of Vikings · 02-11-2010, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramster

czarina set up a new ccbill account and made the duplicate site? WOW

I'd like to see that explained

wow, this thread sucks

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina

You and I both know I never touched the join page on that site.

Yes you did when you added the link for Ana's cam shows to both the root join page and the affiliate join page.

All the image slices were messed up so that the image maps no longer were over the join images.

You still haven't explained why you talked Ana into having you make a duplicate of her site instead of just joining her affiliate program like everyone else does.

Lord Voldemort · 02-11-2010, 10:36 AM

Cleo what are you so pissed off about if this is not your site?

Are you pissed off because you're not getting a piece of this pie? Tough luck puppet, if all you did was put up a few banners, you weren't doing much and Ana apparently needed someone to help her grow her online presence.

It's very unprofessional to bring this sort of issue to the board without talking to Czarina first, and what's with the name calling? The fact that she's not playing your game here, and instead went to solve the issue with Ana herself tells me that she's much more professional than you. Unless you setup a conference call with all 3 of you and forgot to tell us?

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Voldemort

Cleo what are you so pissed off about if this is not your site?

No, I knew about this site over a month ago. I told Ana I didn't think it was a good idea but it was her stuff so it was up to her.

I got pissed off when czarina went into TSMiamiGoddess and messed up the join pages and put up links to blog that no one at TSMiamiGoddess was going to get credit for joins to.

I called Ana asking her what was going on and she said that she didn't realize what she had done and told me to fix things.

Actually it was TSMiamiGoddess' affiliates that first brought all of this to my attention asking me why there were links on her tour that they weren't getting credit for. That and wanting to know why there were now two CCBill programs for the same content.

This mess is czarina's doing.
If czarina wanted to have control over this she could have just taken over TSMiamiGoddess from me. It is Ana's domain and she has always been free to do with it as she pleases including giving it to a different webmasters to run but instead czarina took it upon herself to setup a whole new program screwing over the existing affiliates. She already had FTP access and CCBill access to TSMiamiGoddess when she did all of this.

Lord Voldemort · 02-11-2010, 11:02 AM

why dont one of you two ask Ana to clear this up?

alias · 02-11-2010, 11:08 AM

GFY catfight, why does this she-dude need 2 programs anyway?

selena · 02-11-2010, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

Okay, if both sites are owned by Ana, then why has she decided to mess with her affiliates by creating competing sites?

The way I see this, either the model knowingly and with full intent decided to screw over her existing affiliates and create a duplicate site. If that is the case, I don't want to send her traffic.

OR

the model is clueless, and the ramifications of a second site to existing affiliates were not explained to her in a manner she could understand.

If this were simply a matter of the model wanting her online presence handled in a different way, considering it has been stated that the model owns the site, why would she not just get Cleo to move the site off her server, and take it where she wanted to?

I've already switched links to the original site, which I did not even know existed until this started breaking open on another board. I'm interested in the outcome, and would really like to know if Ana was aware of what she was doing to her existing affiliate base by starting a second site.

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by selena

the model is clueless, and the ramifications to existing affiliates of a second site were not explained to her in a manner she could understand.

Bingo.
Ana is a very trusting person and took the advice of czarina. She had no idea what she was doing. She didn't understand that her existing affiliates would not get credit for sales. I had no idea that czarina had setup a brand new CCBill account until I went to the join page of AnaTranny.com.

Again, why would someone setup a brand new program with a different CCBill account unless they were trying to screw over the existing affiliates or were just clueless? I know Ana was clueless but what is czarina excuse?

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Voldemort

why dont one of you two ask Ana to clear this up?

I talked to Ana on the phone today. She feels really bad about what has happened.

She doesn't know what to do with AnaTranny.com now but was very clear about wanting to continue with TSMiamiGoddess.com since that has been her domain for many years and she considers it her baby.

Nicky · 02-11-2010, 11:29 AM

wow this became a mess.

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 11:43 AM

Bottom line is it is Ana's site. Ana has control over everything at TSMiamiGoddess including the Domain Name, CCBill account and Hosting.

My only involvement is the domain is hosted on my server (Ana pays me for this each month) and I'm an affiliate of TSMiamiGoddess plus I do web work for her when she has an update or wants something changed. We are not talking about a lot of money here, more like pizza money.

I mostly do all of this for Ana because she is a friend.

Robocrop · 02-11-2010, 11:48 AM

Alright let me get this straight, I actually started to promote her yesterday but ..am I using the wrong links here? I am promoting her via TSMiamiGoddess. Am I safe to use those links or what?

Dont wanna lose out on sales here.

BV · 02-11-2010, 11:55 AM

I'm staying out of the "who's content part",
But those of you that think those are great stats don't have a fucking clue.

My join form ratios are over 200% better than that and I have average or maybe slightly above average conversion ratios. (maybe 1:500 average if I'm lucky) Some affiliates do 1:100, some do 1:300, some do 1:2500

It all depends on 100's of things what their/your conversion ratio will be.

She posted join form ratios because based on those her real average conversion ratio has to be up in the 1:2000 - 1:3000 if not higher.

So don't be fooled.

Good Day,
BV

czarina · 02-11-2010, 11:56 AM

robocrop and any one who has questions that need answers please contact me at info[at]wedesig.net and I'll give you the info.

But I will not bring myself down to keep on responding to Cleo, who is NOT the owner of the site, nor the design, nor the domain, nor the ccbill account or the content. And I'll definitely not respond to the name calling.

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop

Alright let me get this straight, I actually started to promote her yesterday but ..am I using the wrong links here? I am promoting her via TSMiamiGoddess. Am I safe to use those links or what?

Dont wanna lose out on sales here.

TSMiamiGoddess has been around for many years. I personally promote it and do rather well with it.

The ultimate fate of TSMiamiGoddess is in Ana's hands. In my phone call to her today she said that she intends to keep it and start updating it again.

czarina · 02-11-2010, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BV

I'm staying out of the "who's content part",
But those of you that think those are great stats don't have a fucking clue.

My join form ratios are over 200% better than that and I have average or maybe slightly above average conversion ratios. (maybe 1:500 average if I'm lucky) Some affiliates do 1:100, some do 1:300, some do 1:2500

It all depends on 100's of things what their/your conversion ratio will be.

She posted join form ratios because based on her join form ratios her real average conversion ratio has to be up in the 1:2000 - 1:3000 if not higher.

So don't be fooled.

Good Day,
BV

sweetie, you have awesome stuff, I already know that

Thanks for the bump

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by czarina

r I will not bring myself down to keep on responding to Cleo, who is NOT the owner of the site, nor the design, nor the domain, nor the ccbill account or the content. And I'll definitely not respond to the name calling.

Do you just not bother reading stuff or are you just in your own world?

Below is what I have already posted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Bottom line is it is Ana's site. Ana has control over everything at TSMiamiGoddess including the Domain Name, CCBill account and Hosting.

My only involvement is the domain is hosted on my server (Ana pays me for this each month) and I'm an affiliate of TSMiamiGoddess plus I do web work for her when she has an update or wants something changed. We are not talking about a lot of money here, more like pizza money.

I mostly do all of this for Ana because she is a friend.

Bhunter · 02-11-2010, 12:05 PM

you show "ccbill sign up form" to "approval" .. 1:40 LMAO that's acutally not pretty good IMO

If that 1:40 was on "join page" to 'approval' then that's something to be proud of.

rabbit · 02-11-2010, 12:13 PM

submit it for review to get our traffic

jigg · 02-11-2010, 12:14 PM

what about counting all hits to the front page? whats the ratio then?

Robocrop · 02-11-2010, 12:28 PM

Alright thanks Cleo, I just wanted to know if I promote her via a program that doesnt give me credit for sales.

carlsandoval\ · 02-11-2010, 01:59 PM

i signed up when i read this thread and i'm promoting it on my tranny blog......should i take it all down or leave it up ??

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocrop

Alright thanks Cleo, I just wanted to know if I promote her via a program that doesnt give me credit for sales.

All I can tell you is I run TSMiamiGoddess for Ana and as long as I'm her webmaster the tour will stay clean with no traffic leaks (now that I've removed the traffic leaks that czarina added) and the CCBill account won't get changed. If for any reason Ana chooses to not to have me as her webmaster anymore I would be up front with everyone and make a posting about it.

If you do promote TSMiamiGoddess I would appreciate you signing up under me but even if you don't I'll be glad to assist you with anything you need.

I've been around since 1998 and have a good reputation. My ICQ is 77080145 if anyone has any questions or needs anything.

Like I have already said, Ana's site is just pizza money for me, it's more of a favour friendship thing. The site that is my real money maker is FoxyAngel's site. It has over 60 gigs of content in its member's area with very regular updates.

FoxyAngel has 3 tours with no traffic leaks.

You can signup for FoxyAngel under me here.

I've also been helping out another Tgirl that is just starting out in the biz. Her webmaster program is here. Her site is an amateur hardcore site with mostly interracial content. She seems to be updating more or less regularly but her site is only a few months old.
This is her tour, also with no traffic leaks.
(I was going to get czarina to redo the tour but now I'll be using a designer that I can trust)

If anyone needs anything with any of these tranny sites just hit me up even if you haven't signed up under me. ICQ 77080145

alan-l · 02-11-2010, 08:32 PM

this is really strange, don't know what to think. Did Czarina made the design or not? If so, who hired her? Why did she take the tour for herself? How did CCBill and VISA accept her site if it was a copy of an existing site? Model might be all the naive you want, but how did Czarina contact her if she wasn't hired by the model herself?

Either way I look at it, I feel like there are unknown facts both parts aren't saying.

on the stats thing, am I missing soemthing or those stats are quite horrible? that's not 1:40, that looks more like anywhere between 1:1000 and 1:100000, probably around 1:2500 taking common CTR and CvRt for the niche

Cleo · 02-11-2010, 08:44 PM

Pull your links.

I just got off of the phone with Ana. Bottom line is Ana doesn't want to be involved with doing a website and has no intention of updating.

Now she has put control of her domain into her boyfriend's name and doesn't seem to know what she is doing with anything.

I don't need this hassle. Especially since I've never made any real money off of TSMiamiGoddess.

I'll be deleting her domains off of my server tonight. I've already deleted or redirected her links off of my stuff.

I'm done with all of this. It has cost me way too much of my time and isn't worth the aggravation.

No good deed goes unpunished...

Robocrop · 02-11-2010, 09:58 PM

So......this turned out well...guess I am pulling everything when this is confirmed.

mattodue · 02-11-2010, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan-l

Either way I look at it, I feel like there are unknown facts both parts aren't saying.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

We are not talking about a lot of money here, more like pizza money.

TSMiamiGoddess has been around for many years. I personally promote it and do rather well with it.

Like I have already said, Ana's site is just pizza money for me, it's more of a favour friendship thing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Pull your links.

lol --- the plot thickens!

02-10-2010, 04:14 PM	#52
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,057	Doesn't look good for Czarina if she's going to avoid this. And if the site goes down in the next few days, you know she was up to something. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

02-10-2010, 04:28 PM	#53
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02-10-2010, 05:05 PM	#54
Ayla_SquareTurtle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 5000 full paysite reviews and counting Posts: 3,550	Bump for an explanation. __________________ gone. long gone. aylasquareturtle .."a"t".. gmail dawt com

02-10-2010, 06:15 PM	#55
Torn Rose Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 752	Bump for drama... __________________ ICQ# 123278082

02-10-2010, 06:30 PM	#56
CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,535	WOW looks like you are in serious trouble, but i am sure you have an explanation ... there is always 2 versions __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE!

02-10-2010, 04:12 PM	#51
CyberHustler Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,394	Wow, that's fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked up! 50 crazy bitches!

02-10-2010, 07:21 PM	#58
CyberHustler Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,394	Bump for an explanation... I hope there is one. I don't personally know her, but I hope she wouldn't be dumb enough to do this and destroy her rep. Like, you didn't think you would get caught doing some shit like that by flaunting your stats here?

02-10-2010, 07:37 PM	#59
Monique Niccole Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 5,653	Czarina has always had a good rep in the adult community. I would hope there's some plausible explanation of mixed signals between her and the model or something. Weird.

02-10-2010, 08:52 PM	#60
aphrophoto So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: S.E. United Kingdom Posts: 57	so czarina have bought non exclusive content? i am not into this but

02-10-2010, 09:13 PM	#61
bDok Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: SD/OC/LA Posts: 1,917	how horrible that shit like this was pulled. promote Ana's site that is tried and tested. period. http://tsmiamigoddess.com/goddess/ ftw __________________ =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Warriors come out to plaAAaayyy! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

02-10-2010, 09:16 PM	#62
aphrophoto So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: S.E. United Kingdom Posts: 57	tranny is best with ice

02-10-2010, 10:32 PM	#64
Farang one sick puppy Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Where the worst of the West meets the worst of the East Posts: 11,485

02-11-2010, 08:29 AM	#65
Ramster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 1,447	nothing? __________________ Fcuk Cash - Backroom Casting Couch, ExCoGi, BlackAmbush DarkReach Cash - Top Pornstars & Sites Skype: robmurray999 Email: rob-at-paysitemanagers.com

02-11-2010, 08:45 AM	#67
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,745	Cleo: if you're accusing me of damaging the site TSMiamiGoddess.com in any way, you need to have server logs to prove it. I have done nothing but to help Ana with her site. And I myself told Ana not to get rid of TSMiamiGoddess.com since it was a source of income for her. (I keep all emails in case you need to see them). Remember, it was me who set up her live cam on TSMiamiGoddess a few weeks ago for her. Ana and I have a contract for AnaTranny.com. So there's no drama here. I bet you're upset she didn't tell you about this. Oops! This is my last post until I get Ana on the phone.

02-11-2010, 08:48 AM	#68
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02-11-2010, 09:37 AM	#70
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,745	I just talked to Ana on the phone. Cleo: I don't know why you started all this drama. How dare you drag my name thru the mud accusing me of stealing Ana's site or content? Who do you think you are to make false accusations and say that I broke any links in TSMiamiGoddess or that I added any spam to her site? THE ONLY CHANGES MADE TO TSMIAMIGODDESS WERE REQUESTED BY ANA (Ana is the owner of the site, NOT you). She even had to ask me TWICE to add the link to her blog to the site. I have never stolen anything from anybody and much less a website design or content. Ana and I have a CONTRACT and a very good relationship. All along I have insisted that Ana continues with TSMiamiGoddess, I even installed her webcam on it, which has helped YOUR retention. Ana told me she spoke to you on the phone a few minutes ago and that she cleared everything up. I would appreciate it if you retracted from your accusations here but I don't expect it. Guys: Ana's site is not coming down. This is a legal site, the design is OWNED by Ana herself (both sites are owned by Ana), AnaTranny.com is being updated 3 or 4 times a week with new content, and there's no issues here.

02-11-2010, 09:42 AM	#72
Longboat full of Vikings So Fucking Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 284	so you've made a total of 1 sale (at 1:40 signup page ratio - the real ratio is 1:1219) we are supposed to be impressed, why?

02-11-2010, 10:36 AM	#76
Lord Voldemort Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in your darkest dreams Posts: 181	Cleo what are you so pissed off about if this is not your site? Are you pissed off because you're not getting a piece of this pie? Tough luck puppet, if all you did was put up a few banners, you weren't doing much and Ana apparently needed someone to help her grow her online presence. It's very unprofessional to bring this sort of issue to the board without talking to Czarina first, and what's with the name calling? The fact that she's not playing your game here, and instead went to solve the issue with Ana herself tells me that she's much more professional than you. Unless you setup a conference call with all 3 of you and forgot to tell us?

02-11-2010, 11:02 AM	#78
Lord Voldemort Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: in your darkest dreams Posts: 181	why dont one of you two ask Ana to clear this up?

02-11-2010, 11:08 AM	#79
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	GFY catfight, why does this she-dude need 2 programs anyway? __________________ https://porncorporation.com

02-11-2010, 11:29 AM	#83
Nicky Judge Jury and Executioner Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,069	wow this became a mess. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

02-11-2010, 11:43 AM	#84
Cleo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Laudderdale Posts: 218	Bottom line is it is Ana's site. Ana has control over everything at TSMiamiGoddess including the Domain Name, CCBill account and Hosting. My only involvement is the domain is hosted on my server (Ana pays me for this each month) and I'm an affiliate of TSMiamiGoddess plus I do web work for her when she has an update or wants something changed. We are not talking about a lot of money here, more like pizza money. I mostly do all of this for Ana because she is a friend. __________________ Looking for fresh content and website design please call or text. If no ansewar try my email Micheal (754) 245-7579 [email protected]

02-11-2010, 11:48 AM	#85
Robocrop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywood Posts: 2,785	Alright let me get this straight, I actually started to promote her yesterday but ..am I using the wrong links here? I am promoting her via TSMiamiGoddess. Am I safe to use those links or what? Dont wanna lose out on sales here.

02-11-2010, 11:55 AM	#86
BV wtf Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Bikini State, FL USA Posts: 10,914	I'm staying out of the "who's content part", But those of you that think those are great stats don't have a fucking clue. My join form ratios are over 200% better than that and I have average or maybe slightly above average conversion ratios. (maybe 1:500 average if I'm lucky) Some affiliates do 1:100, some do 1:300, some do 1:2500 It all depends on 100's of things what their/your conversion ratio will be. She posted join form ratios because based on those her real average conversion ratio has to be up in the 1:2000 - 1:3000 if not higher. So don't be fooled. Good Day, BV Last edited by BV; 02-11-2010 at 11:58 AM..

02-11-2010, 11:56 AM	#87
czarina Webmaster Extraordinaire Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: A beautiful beach... Posts: 10,745	robocrop and any one who has questions that need answers please contact me at info[at]wedesig.net and I'll give you the info. But I will not bring myself down to keep on responding to Cleo, who is NOT the owner of the site, nor the design, nor the domain, nor the ccbill account or the content. And I'll definitely not respond to the name calling.

02-11-2010, 12:05 PM	#91
Bhunter Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,119	you show "ccbill sign up form" to "approval" .. 1:40 LMAO that's acutally not pretty good IMO If that 1:40 was on "join page" to 'approval' then that's something to be proud of.

02-11-2010, 12:13 PM	#92
rabbit Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,124	submit it for review to get our traffic __________________ Got a paysite? Get it reviewed by RabbitsReviews and TheBestPorn

02-11-2010, 12:14 PM	#93
jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	what about counting all hits to the front page? whats the ratio then?

02-11-2010, 12:28 PM	#94
Robocrop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywood Posts: 2,785	Alright thanks Cleo, I just wanted to know if I promote her via a program that doesnt give me credit for sales.

02-11-2010, 01:59 PM	#95
carlsandoval\ Confirmed User $carlsandoval\'s Avatar$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 256	i signed up when i read this thread and i'm promoting it on my tranny blog......should i take it all down or leave it up ?? __________________ My blog http://thetrannyblog.com/ my ICQ 568 527 394 https://youtube.com/coolghoulshow
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02-11-2010, 08:32 PM	#97
alan-l Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: look behind you Posts: 2,477	this is really strange, don't know what to think. Did Czarina made the design or not? If so, who hired her? Why did she take the tour for herself? How did CCBill and VISA accept her site if it was a copy of an existing site? Model might be all the naive you want, but how did Czarina contact her if she wasn't hired by the model herself? Either way I look at it, I feel like there are unknown facts both parts aren't saying. on the stats thing, am I missing soemthing or those stats are quite horrible? that's not 1:40, that looks more like anywhere between 1:1000 and 1:100000, probably around 1:2500 taking common CTR and CvRt for the niche

02-11-2010, 08:44 PM	#98
Cleo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Fort Laudderdale Posts: 218	Pull your links. I just got off of the phone with Ana. Bottom line is Ana doesn't want to be involved with doing a website and has no intention of updating. Now she has put control of her domain into her boyfriend's name and doesn't seem to know what she is doing with anything. I don't need this hassle. Especially since I've never made any real money off of TSMiamiGoddess. I'll be deleting her domains off of my server tonight. I've already deleted or redirected her links off of my stuff. I'm done with all of this. It has cost me way too much of my time and isn't worth the aggravation. No good deed goes unpunished... __________________ Looking for fresh content and website design please call or text. If no ansewar try my email Micheal (754) 245-7579 [email protected]

02-11-2010, 09:58 PM	#99
Robocrop Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywood Posts: 2,785	So......this turned out well...guess I am pulling everything when this is confirmed.