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Old 02-12-2010, 10:29 PM   #1
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What is wrong with you GUN WIELDING US IDIOTS?

http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/6798...-at-us-campus/

Killing spreeeeee..........

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A woman opened fire during a biology faculty meeting at a southern US campus on Friday, killing three biology professors and injuring three other employees at the school, officials said.

The shooter was caught without incident at the University of Alabama's Huntsville campus, outside a science building, and no students were harmed, according to university spokesman Ray Garner.

Local media reported the shooter was a faculty member, though Garner said he could not identify her.

Officials said a man was also being detained.

Police said no charges had been filed and they were interviewing the woman suspect and a man identified as "a person of interest".

University spokesman Ray Garner said the three killed were Gopi K. Podila, the chairman of the Department of Biological Sciences, and two other faculty members, Maria Ragland Davis and Adriel Johnson.

Two others are in critical condition, and a third who was wounded was upgraded to fair condition.

The injured were identified as department members Luis Cruz-Vera and Joseph Leahy and staffer Stephanie Monticello. Their specific conditions were not released.

Student Erin Johnson told The Huntsville Times a biology faculty meeting was under way when she heard screams coming from a conference room.

University police secured the building and students were cleared from it.

There was still a heavy police presence on campus Friday night, with police tape cordoning off the main entrance to the university.

The Huntsville campus has about 7,500 students in northern Alabama, not far from the Tennessee line. The university is known for its scientific and engineering programs and often works closely with NASA.
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This message is hidden because Babaganoosh is on your ignore list.

Should I bother unblocking this prick to read his wise words in my thread? Nah, it's bound to be futile.
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crazy people do crazy shit. had the same person not had a gun available it would have been something else just as extreme
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In the US guns are used over 2.5 million times a year to save people from extreme harm or death.
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crazy people do crazy shit. had the same person not had a gun available it would have been something else just as extreme
True say.

Hard to kill people with a cheese sandwich though.
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Guns don't kill people, rappers do.

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Cool story bro, I love when the hippies find a story and start crying about U.S. gun owners. ZOMGodzessez thissszes so wouldn't happenzes here wherez we don't ownzes the gunzess.

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For every shot from a gun made to hurt someone, they should be shot themselves 2 times. How does that sound? Gun owners will tell you that the people killed in these sprees are just unfortuanate fodder. Try telling that to the families of those who lost someone in such a needless stupid killing.
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at least in the US we can fight back. Most other countries can't
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Guns kick ass.

They are like toys for the deranged:





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Hard to kill people with a cheese sandwich though.
But not with the skillet you cooked that sandwich with
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I don't see how.
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So some nutcase bitch who was denied tenure shoots her fellow profs and we're all lumped together as "GUN WIELDING US IDIOTS"? Maybe she could have strapped explosives to herself and done a better job? Shit happens. There are unstable people everywhere. If she didn't have access to a gun she would have used a meat cleaver or a baseball bat or yes...even a cheese sandwich.
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at least in the US we can fight back. Most other countries can't
Post makes no sense. None of the people shot managed to fight back.
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So some nutcase bitch who was denied tenure shoots her fellow profs and we're all lumped together as "GUN WIELDING US IDIOTS"? Maybe she could have strapped explosives to herself and done a better job? Shit happens. There are unstable people everywhere. If she didn't have access to a gun she would have used a meat cleaver or a baseball bat or yes...even a cheese sandwich.
If this were a rare or isolated case then you may have a point. But it seems to happen all the time, more and more often.

PS: and your point that she could have done the same with a bat, explosives, etc is just plan dumb.
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Guns are here to stay for those with criminal intent. Any regulation will just remove guns from those that are obeying the law.


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Guns are here to stay for those with criminal intent. Any regulation will just remove guns from those that are obeying the law.


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very sad thing to hear

extreme violence in schools = very poor education and parenthood. multiple instances in the past indicate that this is a problem on a national level, children are thought wrong values and learn no respect for others and their surroundings. TV addiction also adds to the mix.
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the funny thing is I know students there and they were aware of who did the shooting, the articles act like they have no clue who did the shooting and have "a man in custody" LOL

the cops and media do a good job of pretending like they have it under control though.

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Officials said a man was also being detained.

Police said no charges had been filed and they were interviewing the woman suspect and a man identified as "a person of interest".
the entirre student body know which professor did the shooting, but the cops are detaining some guy who had nothing to do with it. I saw facebook messages saying "female professor went crazy at school today for not getting tenure and shot people"

too funny. not only can they not name the suspect, they are busy detaining people who had nothing to do with the crime.

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So some nutcase bitch who was denied tenure shoots her fellow profs and we're all lumped together as "GUN WIELDING US IDIOTS"? Maybe she could have strapped explosives to herself and done a better job? Shit happens. There are unstable people everywhere. If she didn't have access to a gun she would have used a meat cleaver or a baseball bat or yes...even a cheese sandwich.
how long and how many people could someone kill with a meat cleaver vs a semi auto with a full clip? hmm.....

i am not one for outlawing guns but the way some people defend them is moronic.
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how long and how many people could someone kill with a meat cleaver vs a semi auto with a full clip? hmm.....

i am not one for outlawing guns but the way some people defend them is moronic.
The problem is the moment you question anything about gun ownership or even whisper something about trying to control the sales of guns, the nuts automatically explode in a rant about how you want to take away their guns and leave them to be ass raped by the criminals.
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They are like toys for the deranged:
Nice, got one just like this. What brand name is that?

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When someone does something crazy like that, it seems to me that a better and more productive dialogue would be about mental health care in the USA, not gun access. If we all walked around cowboy-style, a crazy person like that college prof would be stopped faster, but the more important issue is how to identify and help crazy people, while avoiding needless marginalizing. Are the antidepressants prescribed so liberally in America helping or hurting? How did a woman who murdered her brother get the opportunity to murder at least three more people twenty years later? Did she ever get any help and treatment? Those are the salient points, not what the weapon of choice was for her crazy ass.
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When someone does something crazy like that, it seems to me that a better and more productive dialogue would be about mental health care in the USA, not gun access. If we all walked around cowboy-style, a crazy person like that college prof would be stopped faster, but the more important issue is how to identify and help crazy people, while avoiding needless marginalizing. Are the antidepressants prescribed so liberally in America helping or hurting? How did a woman who murdered her brother get the opportunity to murder at least three more people twenty years later? Did she ever get any help and treatment? Those are the salient points, not what the weapon of choice was for her crazy ass.
Are you suggesting we bring back the archaic "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" style involuntary commitments, institutions, brutality, straitjackets and electro-shock?
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Are you suggesting we bring back the archaic "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest" style involuntary commitments, institutions, brutality, straitjackets and electro-shock?

Actually, just 'cause you asked, I'll say that I think, as a society, we should explore just the opposite. By medicating extremely young children the way we have been, large sectors of our society identify as being a-little-sick-and-thus-not-responsible. At just the age when children should be being socialized and taught that other people have feelings too, we are causing possible permanent changes to their endocrine systems and telling them not to take responsibility for their own actions. It is normal for a toddler to not wholly understand that others feel pain, but there are more and more adults in our society who are developmentally delayed in the empathy department.

I don't know a lot about this particular shooter, but pretty much all of the student school shootings were done by people who had been given certain types of antidepressants. One of the difficulties with antidepressants is that, partly because the whole point of them is to make it easier to cope, they make it easier to cope with cognitive dissonance, as well as things it is good to be able to cope with. Only cognitive dissonance is your brain telling you that you are doing/believing incompatible things and need to sort yourself out.

Although I do generally think that people who have already committed murder are perhaps not the best folks to arm, even though I am a strong gun rights proponent.
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Hard to kill people with a cheese sandwich though.
yeah it is... unless there's arsenic in it
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Someone at the table asked a Japanese admiral why, with the Pacific Fleet devastated at Pearl Harbor and the mainland US forces in what Japan had to know was a pathetic state of unreadiness, Japan had not simply invaded the West Coast. Commander Menard would never forget the crafty look on the Japanese commander's face as he frankly answered the question. ?You are right,? he told the Americans. ?We did indeed know much about your preparedness. We knew that probably every second home in your country contained firearms. We knew that your country actually had state championships for private citizens shooting military rifles. We were not fools to set foot in such quicksand.?

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We very well could have lost both wars if the Japanese invade the mainland. No one in the world could send help to the US to help us fight off the Japanese so we would have had to either pull troops from Europe or enlist every man and women to fight them off.
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Death by cheese is a rare phenomenon indeed.
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So some nutcase bitch who was denied tenure shoots her fellow profs and we're all lumped together as "GUN WIELDING US IDIOTS"? Maybe she could have strapped explosives to herself and done a better job? Shit happens. There are unstable people everywhere. If she didn't have access to a gun she would have used a meat cleaver or a baseball bat or yes...even a cheese sandwich.

From the looks of that pig I think she would have eaten the cheese sandwich before killing someone with it.
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Having lead an Infantry Squad, I remember the following:

This my rifle, this is my gun (hand on dick);
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My gun is for fun.....

Old saying among Infantry Sergeants to teach proper nomenclature.
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It's a very sad state of affairs.

I merely wanted to point out that the gun crazy nutters on here normally go in hiding and stfu when something like this happens. Only a few are actively speaking up now.

AmeliaG - rare intelligence shown on the board for a change, I am taken aback for the first time ever here.

A very close family member is a psychiatrist, and shudders at the very words "anti-depressants". More often than not they shouldn't have been given in the first place.
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The reason gun laws have nothing to do with this crime is she used an unlicensed firearm.
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According to the National Self Defense Survey conducted by Florida State University criminologists in 1994, the rate of Defensive Gun Uses can be projected nationwide to approximately 2.5 million per year

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Old 02-14-2010, 10:37 AM   #43
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He conducted a national survey in 1994 (the National Self-Defense Survey) and, extrapolating from the 5,000 households surveyed, estimated that....
Why don't you quote as above (as it is written in wikipedia) with the extrapolated and estimated?

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A study of gun use in the 1990s, by David Hemenway at the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, claimed that criminal use of guns is far more common than self-defense use of guns...
From the same wiki page.

So what made Gary Kleck's National Self-Defense Survey fact but not David Hemenway's from Harvard??

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Why don't you quote as above (as it is written in wikipedia) with the extrapolated and estimated?



From the same wiki page.

So what made Gary Kleck's National Self-Defense Survey fact but not David Hemenway's from Harvard??
Because I had a few windows open and cut and pasted the wrong thing ;). Why not go with David Hemenway's? Because more surveys show David to be wrong and Kleck to be right.

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Hemenway's own surveys confirmed Kleck's conclusion that defensive gun uses number at least in the hundreds of thousands each year, and that a far larger number of surveys (at least 20) have shown that defensive uses outnumbered criminal uses
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