They should pay for the health care bill by legalizing pot nationwide.

[kane]

Just legalize weed and sell it like they do tobacco and alcohol. Tax it and I would guess the tax from week alone might come close to paying for that thing.

I was just reading that just in the US alone we grow about 22 million tons of pot per year and that is with it being illegal. I would bet that would double, triple or maybe even more if it were legal. Tax it like you to cigarettes and you are rolling in the cash.

[fatfoo]

The damage to lungs from smoking a joint is approximately four times greater than damage to lungs from smoking a cigarette. You also get effects on your brain such as short term memory loss and long term stupidity side effects.

Health care is about less lung cancer. Thank you, kane.

[CyberHustler]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

The damage to lungs from smoking a joint is approximately four times greater than damage to lungs from smoking a cigarette. You also get effects on your brain such as short term memory loss and long term stupidity side effects.

Health care is about less lung cancer. Thank you, kane.

What about the people who vaporize it? Or eat it?

[kane]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

The damage to lungs from smoking a joint is approximately four times greater than damage to lungs from smoking a cigarette. You also get effects on your brain such as short term memory loss and long term stupidity side effects.

Health care is about less lung cancer. Thank you, kane.

You also smoke a whole lot less of it than you do cigarettes. I personally don't smoke anything cigs or pot, but I think both should be legal. While I am sure there are some people who smoke pot all day long, most have a little bit here and there and that is it. I know a lot of people who smoke 1-3 packs of cigarettes a day. You can't tell me smoking a joint on night is worse for you than smoking 2 packs of cigarettes a day.

[scarlettcontent]

Interesting subject, For example in the Netherlands pot is legal for the following

1. To prevent drug use and to treat and rehabilitate drug users.
2. To reduce harm to users.
3. To diminish public nuisance by drug users (the disturbance of public order and safety in the neighborhood).
4. To combat the production and trafficking of drugs.

[kane]

Originally Posted by scarlettcontent

Interesting subject, For example in the Netherlands pot is legal for the following

1. To prevent drug use and to treat and rehabilitate drug users.
2. To reduce harm to users.
3. To diminish public nuisance by drug users (the disturbance of public order and safety in the neighborhood).
4. To combat the production and trafficking of drugs.

For sure. As soon as you legalize pot it gets rid of the drug dealers selling it. sure, they will still sell coke and meth and other things, but not pot. You also create jobs as people grow, cultivate and sell it. You can add a tax on it that goes directly towards education and treatment for those addicted to it and you could even force sellers to give buyers information about the bad things pot could do to them.

Not too mention as soon as pot is legal so will be hemp and we can use hemp for a ton of things. Hemp is a kick ass cash crop, but we don't grow it because it looks like pot and our leaders are idiots.

[grumpy]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

The damage to lungs from smoking a joint is approximately four times greater than damage to lungs from smoking a cigarette. You also get effects on your brain such as short term memory loss and long term stupidity side effects.

Health care is about less lung cancer. Thank you, kane.

you are right, its semi legal here in holland and people are falling like flies.

[Viewfinder]

With the huge new Medicaid load the states will have to deal with now, something tells me that they might take a serious look at ending their drug wars. It's quite expensive policing what people put into their bodies.

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by kane

Just legalize weed and sell it like they do tobacco and alcohol. Tax it like you do cigarettes and you are rolling in the cash.

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe your on to something there and someone already has a plan.

I posted this earlier but as it fits in with this topic and just in case anyone missed it ....


Marlboro Wins The Battle Over Marijuana Domains - (DomainSalesTalk.com)

Tobacco company Philip Morris scores a hit with marijuana domains.

Altria, the parent company of Philip Morris,whos brands include Marlboro had filed a complaint to get the domain names AltriaCannabis.com and AltriaMarijuana.com. The company won the case at World Intellectual Property Forum against Daniel Cheng of Washington, D.C., and the domain names should be transferred to Altria’s possession shortly.

The question is: what will Altria do with these domain names now that it owns them !! ... A pack of Marlboro highs please !

Let the * Conspiracy Theories * begin !!

[SpongeBub]

Whenever you talk about decriminalizing drugs (or even pot), you have to remember that there are huge bureaucracies in the US that will never allow this to happen. For starters, you have the DEA, which emplys thousands of people and has a huge lobbying presence in DC. They are not going to give up one iota of their power without a helluva fight. Hey, these guys have a TV show on Spike that they have to keep going!

Then there is the most scary of all, for-profit prisons. A deep-pocket industry who's sole purpose for existing is keeping lots of people in jail to keep lots of money rolling in. They lobby the hell out of congress and will work hard to make sure that even simple possession is not decriminalized. How else are they going to keep those cells full of paying customers?

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by SpongeBub

Whenever you talk about decriminalizing drugs (or even pot), you have to remember that there are huge bureaucracies in the US that will never allow this to happen. For starters, you have the DEA, which emplys thousands of people and has a huge lobbying presence in DC. They are not going to give up one iota of their power without a helluva fight. Hey, these guys have a TV show on Spike that they have to keep going!

Then there is the most scary of all, for-profit prisons. A deep-pocket industry who's sole purpose for existing is keeping lots of people in jail to keep lots of money rolling in. They lobby the hell out of congress and will work hard to make sure that even simple possession is not decriminalized. How else are they going to keep those cells full of paying customers?

I agree....

At one point it looked as if Canada was going to make it legal it but I think the USA put pressure on them at the last minute not to do it ....

[Badmaash]

Originally Posted by SpongeBub

Whenever you talk about decriminalizing drugs (or even pot), you have to remember that there are huge bureaucracies in the US that will never allow this to happen. For starters, you have the DEA, which emplys thousands of people and has a huge lobbying presence in DC. They are not going to give up one iota of their power without a helluva fight. Hey, these guys have a TV show on Spike that they have to keep going!

Then there is the most scary of all, for-profit prisons. A deep-pocket industry who's sole purpose for existing is keeping lots of people in jail to keep lots of money rolling in. They lobby the hell out of congress and will work hard to make sure that even simple possession is not decriminalized. How else are they going to keep those cells full of paying customers?

What do you mean won't let it happen? Cannabis is already legal in many states........

[kane]

Originally Posted by SpongeBub

Whenever you talk about decriminalizing drugs (or even pot), you have to remember that there are huge bureaucracies in the US that will never allow this to happen. For starters, you have the DEA, which emplys thousands of people and has a huge lobbying presence in DC. They are not going to give up one iota of their power without a helluva fight. Hey, these guys have a TV show on Spike that they have to keep going!

Then there is the most scary of all, for-profit prisons. A deep-pocket industry who's sole purpose for existing is keeping lots of people in jail to keep lots of money rolling in. They lobby the hell out of congress and will work hard to make sure that even simple possession is not decriminalized. How else are they going to keep those cells full of paying customers?

Sadly this is the case. As much as any politician might talk about shrinking the government, none of them ever actually do it. Once the government creates a job, those with that job do everything they can to hold onto it. There would still be other drugs the DEA and those could go after, but legal pot would lessen their workload and more importantly it would limit the taboo that they have worked decades to create around it. That won't be something they will easily give up on.

[SifuE]

for all you Ignorant assholes, pot never killed anybody, and if you believe that government bullshit you to stupid to know otherwise.

[bushwacker]

Originally Posted by SifuE

for all you Ignorant assholes, pot never killed anybody, and if you believe that government bullshit you to stupid to know otherwise.

Stoner!!

[grumpy]

i see the future

[stickyfingerz]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

The damage to lungs from smoking a joint is approximately four times greater than damage to lungs from smoking a cigarette. You also get effects on your brain such as short term memory loss and long term stupidity side effects.

Health care is about less lung cancer. Thank you, kane.

Karen O told me to post this link...

http://cancer.about.com/od/smokingan.../marijuana.htm

[CosmicTang]

If there's one thing that politicians like more than vilifying marijuana it's gaining an additional tax revenue stream to spend. We've come to a point where taxing marijuana isn't a choice, but a necessity.

Watch how quick they change their tune and come out with breakthrough research to make weed safe so they can start taxing it. The generation that had so many taboos against it are getting old and will get sick very shortly. My guess is that when their health care is in jeopardy for a lack of funds suddenly pot won't be evil.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by CyberClaire

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe your on to something there and someone already has a plan.

I posted this earlier but as it fits in with this topic and just in case anyone missed it ....


Marlboro Wins The Battle Over Marijuana Domains - (DomainSalesTalk.com)

Tobacco company Philip Morris scores a hit with marijuana domains.

Altria, the parent company of Philip Morris,whos brands include Marlboro had filed a complaint to get the domain names AltriaCannabis.com and AltriaMarijuana.com. The company won the case at World Intellectual Property Forum against Daniel Cheng of Washington, D.C., and the domain names should be transferred to Altria?s possession shortly.

The question is: what will Altria do with these domain names now that it owns them !! ... A pack of Marlboro highs please !

Let the * Conspiracy Theories * begin !!

haha wow

[JD]

legalizzzzze it...

[kane]

Originally Posted by CosmicTang

If there's one thing that politicians like more than vilifying marijuana it's gaining an additional tax revenue stream to spend. We've come to a point where taxing marijuana isn't a choice, but a necessity.

Watch how quick they change their tune and come out with breakthrough research to make weed safe so they can start taxing it. The generation that had so many taboos against it are getting old and will get sick very shortly. My guess is that when their health care is in jeopardy for a lack of funds suddenly pot won't be evil.

I think we are probably about 3-5 years from seeing a state like California or Oregon fully legalize pot and tax it. Once that happens you know the feds will want their cut and suddenly, as you say, pot will not be such a horrible drug.

[Badmaash]

Originally Posted by kane

I think we are probably about 3-5 years from seeing a state like California or Oregon fully legalize pot and tax it. Once that happens you know the feds will want their cut and suddenly, as you say, pot will not be such a horrible drug.

Adding tax will not get rid off crime, mafia will always try and under cut the state.......

[The Demon]

I'm all for legalizing pot. But as far as drugs go, that's the limit.

[hypedough]

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz

Karen O told me to post this link...

http://cancer.about.com/od/smokingan.../marijuana.htm

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOL Thank you Sticky, I'm a bit tired of this Karen O shit and his random thoughts when we don't even know if he's a surfer or a webmaster.

[cherrylula]

Cali will be legalizing this year, watch and see.

[The Demon]

Cali needs it, it's the most retardedly liberal and bankrupt state in America (Michigan isn't liberal).

[seeandsee]

Originally Posted by fatfoo

The damage to lungs from smoking a joint is approximately four times greater than damage to lungs from smoking a cigarette. You also get effects on your brain such as short term memory loss and long term stupidity side effects.

Health care is about less lung cancer. Thank you, kane.

amen no pot legalized

[CYF]

Originally Posted by CyberClaire

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe your on to something there and someone already has a plan.

I posted this earlier but as it fits in with this topic and just in case anyone missed it ....


Marlboro Wins The Battle Over Marijuana Domains - (DomainSalesTalk.com)

Tobacco company Philip Morris scores a hit with marijuana domains.

Altria, the parent company of Philip Morris,whos brands include Marlboro had filed a complaint to get the domain names AltriaCannabis.com and AltriaMarijuana.com. The company won the case at World Intellectual Property Forum against Daniel Cheng of Washington, D.C., and the domain names should be transferred to Altria?s possession shortly.

The question is: what will Altria do with these domain names now that it owns them !! ... A pack of Marlboro highs please !

Let the * Conspiracy Theories * begin !!

Conspiracy theory? Maybe Altria simply didn't want someone else using their trademark?

[EscortBiz]

it wont be long before we figure out that we should stop telling people what to do, gambling, drugs, hookers, who gives a shit, people will do it anyway, you might as well tax it

like anything else, when states no longer have a choice they will bend the rules and twist shit and do what it takes, just like when a regular person gets desperate certain things that he / she never thought they would do they end up doing

god bless america

[Domain Diva]

Originally Posted by CYF

Conspiracy theory? Maybe Altria simply didn't want someone else using their trademark?

It was just a light hearted Comment CYF...... Satire

[kane]

Originally Posted by Badmaash

Adding tax will not get rid off crime, mafia will always try and under cut the state.......

True there are always people who will try to find a way to make a dollar with it. But it will be a lot less than it is now.

[cykoe6]

Originally Posted by kane

Just legalize weed and sell it like they do tobacco and alcohol. Tax it and I would guess the tax from week alone might come close to paying for that thing.

I agree completely.

[Overload]

NL handles it the only right way ... legal weed :D i mean, serious ... 1000s of ppl die from alcohol, directly or indirectly, every year, but i NEVER heard about a death DIRECTLY caused by cannabis consumption ... ok, i admit it, i have been smoking every now and then for the past 19 years ... but i NEVER EVER in my life met a weed smoker that turned aggressive "on the ride" ... other than many alcohol users who really turn to bad-ass fuckers after some shots ... legalize IT!