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Old 03-27-2010, 08:00 AM   #1
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What on earth is happening with signups ?

What on earth is happening with signups ?

It is going down way more faster that i could ever imagine. We're not talking about months here but weeks.

At least on my end. Are you in the same boat ?
Worst month ever after being online for over 13 years. No not true if i count 1997 as i was starting.
Less signups equals less rebills going down, down down.

Worst ratio:
1:45 000 (niche/sponsor)
I can't send 45 000 uniques qualified surfers (targeted/clicked traffic) everyday to every niches i work in and to ever sponsors. I don't own tube sites.

Don't know what i'll do
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:02 AM   #2
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:06 AM   #3
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Martin is in a gif mood to cheer ya up

Anyways, still 4 more days left in this month, maybe it will turn the tables a bit?
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:20 AM   #9
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OP have you sold any of those dolls in your sig?
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Wow, it's been several days since an "omg sales are gone, the end of the world is here" thread from Fabien... I had feared the worst.
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:26 AM   #15
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:37 AM   #17
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Old 03-27-2010, 09:38 AM   #18
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What on earth is happening with signups ?

It is going down way more faster that i could ever imagine. We're not talking about months here but weeks.

At least on my end. Are you in the same boat ?
Worst month ever after being online for over 13 years. No not true if i count 1997 as i was starting.
Less signups equals less rebills going down, down down.

Worst ratio:
1:45 000 (niche/sponsor)
I can't send 45 000 uniques qualified surfers (targeted/clicked traffic) everyday to every niches i work in and to ever sponsors. I don't own tube sites.

Don't know what i'll do
1) Still in a Recession.
2) Income tax time and people are using the refunds to pay credit cards.
3) Price of gas is starting to go up.
4) People uneasy about the "recovery'.
5) Obamacare just started taking money from everyone's pay checks.
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1) Still in a Recession.
2) Income tax time and people are using the refunds to pay credit cards.
3) Price of gas is starting to go up.
4) People uneasy about the "recovery'.
5) Obamacare just started taking money from everyone's pay checks.

Doesn't the healthcare stuff not kick in until 2014? Maybe people are uneasy because of it and thus not buying, but I don't think there could be any new deductions from paychecks already, could there?
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Old 03-27-2010, 10:23 AM   #22
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On my end it's like credit cards are banned from the web (almost) Very very odd. In fact, i just don't dig it. Of course i knew it was coming and was preparing for it but jesus christ !

Anyways, thanks for your inputs guys.
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It's the only thing pulling i know, but you have to get the traffic first and i ain't got much. I'm working my ass on it trust me.

By the way, don't try webcams with indian porn
Sucks ass, in fact, indian niche plain sucks. I got several niches but this one. OMG !
And i ain't got lots of them coming in from India by the way (which could be an excuse)

The dolls are picking up tho. We'll see...
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You know what's weird...we're not up.

And we're not down.

We've been flat. For a while now. I'd like to think it's cause we don't miss updates, but who knows.
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You know what's weird...we're not up.

And we're not down.

We've been flat. For a while now. I'd like to think it's cause we don't miss updates, but who knows.
With others complaining as much as they are, I'm happy to take flat.
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What on earth is happening with signups ?

It is going down way more faster that i could ever imagine. We're not talking about months here but weeks.

At least on my end. Are you in the same boat ?
Worst month ever after being online for over 13 years. No not true if i count 1997 as i was starting.
Yes, there is something going around....See our post/poll
when we predicted we will get ONE SALE from a hun listing...
Question: How the fuck can a person predict how many sales
you'll get BEFORE it happens?
You gotta figure it out....
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/958020-ccbill-hun-listing-sale-effect-vote.html
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I'm seeing the direct opposite really - Ratios are slowing coming down, traffic is slowly going up, and sales and rebills are both improving.
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Banks are denying insane amount of cards right now.. the ACAI guys, which has been all over the place lately, is generating huge cb numbers because of their crazy shady business.. this has opened up the eyes of the banks on what's going on and they're running away scared right now..

At least that's the rumour I've heard ;)
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You know what's weird...we're not up.

And we're not down.

We've been flat. For a while now. I'd like to think it's cause we don't miss updates, but who knows.
You produce great content - constantly. You should be up. But I notice your marketing presence, or rather the lack thereof. That's why.
You rock. You are talented. You are consistent. Hell, you are even funny. You should be growing, not stagnant.
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A lot of you state the problem already - you expect the same (or better results) while doing the same thing you've done in the past.
Are you marketing like it's 1997? Then don't be surprised to see those results you are getting now.
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http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/958020-ccbill-hun-listing-sale-effect-vote.html
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I don't know why some just keep on harping back to bullshit. No its not free porn on the net, no something is wrong with you or your tricks, must be a seasonal thing, must be due to effect of gravity around this time.
Fuck this
The sales are down because there aren't many processors left standing and those who are still around were hosed very big time just around end of Jan. They have simply turned off the taps almost completly and sales are just tricking in once in a while. From 14-15 sales a day I am down to 14 to 15 in two weeks.
The day CCBill folds up, and that is not too far off, this industry will be history. Visa and MC have performed a coup de grace.
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I don't know why some just keep on harping back to bullshit. No its not free porn on the net, no something is wrong with you or your tricks, must be a seasonal thing, must be due to effect of gravity around this time.
Fuck this
The sales are down because there aren't many processors left standing and those who are still around were hosed very big time just around end of Jan. They have simply turned off the taps almost completly and sales are just tricking in once in a while. From 14-15 sales a day I am down to 14 to 15 in two weeks.
The day CCBill folds up, and that is not too far off, this industry will be history. Visa and MC have performed a coup de grace.
What?
This has nothing to do with 'processors'. Believe me, 'processing' is fine.
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Declines. Failure to rebill. Credit line decreases.
This plus 1000.

With that said, this month has been my best month in adult ever but with the shittiest ratios ever.
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What?
This has nothing to do with 'processors'. Believe me, 'processing' is fine.
How do you know? How many transactions do you do a day?

I invite you (or anyone else for that matter) to run a decline report.

Look specifically at how many (do not honor) declines you are getting on rebills.

how in the fuck can you get a "do not honor" decline on a rebill? (because the card obviously was used at one time for the initial sale right?

so what's happening is banks are cracking down on what consumers can buy with their cards. specifically "high risk" transactions processed by adult billing companies

times are not good
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How do you know? How many transactions do you do a day?

I invite you (or anyone else for that matter) to run a decline report.

Look specifically at how many (do not honor) declines you are getting on rebills.

how in the fuck can you get a "do not honor" decline on a rebill? (because the card obviously was used at one time for the initial sale right?

so what's happening is banks are cracking down on what consumers can buy with their cards. specifically "high risk" transactions processed by adult billing companies

times are not good
Between all my clients I guarantee you they bill more than you do. Increased scrubbing is only a problem is you're living on small margins. I know this goes against what a lot of folks WANT to be the case but it's true.

I see the changes, sure. But do they cause me to say 'IT'S ALL GOING TO HELL!?!!" ? No. It's a slight change. It is not the end of the world.
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How long did you think that ' adult ' webmasters could fuck surfers ( clients ) over and over again ?

Just today, there is a thread a a guy looking for processing as long as the rebill is hidden way below the join button ....

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it's not really the tubes or the economy, it's the billing that's the issue. i know this because of drastic day to day and week to week changes. sometimes they let sales through sometimes they don't. that's why a lot of the work you do is almost irrelevant.
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What on earth is happening with signups ?
The problem is tube sites. Unless you double or triple your traffic, it is likely you will continue to see a decline in your sales. Ratios are just bad these days. It's probably not your fault. Surfers aren't paying for porn like they did before tube sites.
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Old 03-27-2010, 06:40 PM   #50
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Traffic level the same? How about the sources of traffic, are they same? Finally, which sponsors are you sending them to?

Maybe if you're not running tubes, your traffic has been TUBE-DESENSITIZED? ie., the expectations of your surfers have changed?
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