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Old 04-20-2010, 03:00 PM   #1
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I buy a homegym, the guy who sold it crashes my car window when loading - who´s to blame?

Today I bought a used homegym and me and the seller were loading it into my car. Eventually we got it in there and the guy pushes the trunk (eh... ? on a hatchback)without noticing one of the parts touching the window. One second later the whole thing goes "bam"and the window shatters into 10k pieces.

Who is to blame?
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:04 PM   #2
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:06 PM   #3
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Hmm. Not a fun situation.

Unless I had already warned the guy to be careful or thought he was drunk or something, I think I'd just have to suck it up and pay for it out of my own pocket.
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If it was a business you were buying from, it would be their fault no problem. If it's just some guy, then it's a whole other thing. You can't ask him to pay for it.

One time I went out for a loaf of bread, and I got a ticket for making an illegal right on red. That was the most expensive peanut butter and jelly sandwich I ever had.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:12 PM   #5
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As you were both loading, I would say 50-50
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If it was a business you were buying from, it would be their fault no problem.

If it's just some guy, then it's a whole other thing. You can't ask him to pay for it. I can't say exactly why, but I would just feel scummy for asking.
Not nessessarily, unless they have loading procedures & it is part of the job. Even then, most people that carry bags to a car for a person shall usually allow them to load the car or you can find a taxi likes to take the bags from the car & place it on the ground next to the car & like wise with packing


Truthfully chupachups, he was doing you a favour & I bet he feels awfull. I think maybe it is one of those things & maybe next time remember to load things into your car yourself

I once loaded a motor bike into the back of a van, my van, my mates bike. I was doing HIM the favour of moving it to his new address. As I closed the back, the handle bar popped the back window. I did not blame him as it was my van, my window & my fault that the wondow broke, even though I was doing him a favour

Next time anyone says, I can help. Accept the carry, but deny them the part of actually placing the item inside your vehicle.
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It's your car it's your responsibility. End of story...
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It seems like he will give some discount on the product sold. Yes, I think he was uncautious but nevertheless he was helping me out. I will have pay about 200 bucks of the damages (whats that called - for the insurance?) if the insurance covers it, which it should.

Just wanted to get your opinions, its indeed a tricky situation. Thx
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It's your car it's your responsibility. End of story...
Lol, one of the most moronic statements, ever.


Tires slashed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Keyed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Dented? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Hit and Run? It's your car it's your responsibility.


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FACT: The most exercise people get from home gyms is setting them up tearing them down and moving them.


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Lol, one of the most moronic statements, ever.


Tires slashed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Keyed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Dented? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Hit and Run? It's your car it's your responsibility.


None of those examples are close to what happened here. He was getting help from the person to load his car, he was not the victim of vandalism.
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Old 04-20-2010, 03:34 PM   #13
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FACT: The most exercise people get from home gyms is setting them up tearing them down and moving them.


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MY FACTS: I am too fucking lazy to go to the gym and I always find some excuse not to. However, a year ago I bought a treadmill and I have been walking 2-3miles daily since then. Use some will power, put on a bad soap on the box and you will make it
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Lol, one of the most moronic statements, ever.


Tires slashed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Keyed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Dented? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Hit and Run? It's your car it's your responsibility.


I don't know why I would even waste my time on a useless little troll, but what does vandalism have to do with this thread? In any case, you would still be responsible for all of those scenarios unless you actually caught the person doing it.
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None of those examples are close to what happened here. He was getting help from the person to load his car, he was not the victim of visualization.
Doesn't matter if it is in good faith, or not.
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I don't know why I would even waste my time on a useless little troll, but what does vandalism have to do with this thread? In any case, you would still be responsible for all of those scenarios unless you actually caught the person doing it.
You mean you can't just point the blame on anyone? Obviously.


The dude who loaded the gym and closed the hatch wasn't alone.
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Lol, one of the most moronic statements, ever.


Tires slashed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Keyed? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Car Dented? It's your car it's your responsibility.
Hit and Run? It's your car it's your responsibility.


Slightly different situation, vandals or help. But sadly, it is, to get it fixed that is
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It seems like he will give some discount on the product sold. Yes, I think he was uncautious but nevertheless he was helping me out. I will have pay about 200 bucks of the damages (whats that called - for the insurance?) if the insurance covers it, which it should.

Just wanted to get your opinions, its indeed a tricky situation. Thx
Glad you have got it sorted & most definatly nice of the guy to waive a discount for his accidental damage.
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Next time load it all by yourself and see how fun it is, or use a truck when hauling shit
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Next time load it all by yourself and see how fun it is, or use a truck when hauling shit
By myself? How fun it is? Well, if I was him I would have been kind enough to do the same for him, both regarding the money and helping. Anyway, you are probably the type of guy who have no idea about such traits
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that kind of a job is not car friendly. thats a truck job.
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Guy is stand up as he did not have to give you a discount.
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Probably true for most people. I use my exercise bike every day when I'm watching TV. Most people get a little bit of TV time in daily, exercise then.
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You got fat on your own and that's why you needed a home gym so of
course it's your fault....fatty!



Just kidding.

It's nobody's fault; it's just life.
It's way less hassle in the long run to just fix it yourself.
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Just kidding.

It's nobody's fault; it's just life.
It's way less hassle in the long run to just fix it yourself.
I am far from a fatty nowadays;) Yes, I am not blaming him really and your last two lines are quite true.
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Jo, självrisken är på 1600 eller ngt så jag tänkte han kunde ge mig 500 rabatt på gymmet.. borde ju inte vara några problem. Men nu, ja vad fan, funderar på att säga "skit samma, skicka mig 70 spänn till en öl"
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i think u should take the blame, as he was helpin you.
But if he had any brains, he too could knock a few dollars off for you.. but you shouldnt force him to pay.
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Whoever closed the hatch on the home gym and broke the window is the one at fault. Its not that fucking difficult to comprehend.

Lets put it this way: If you had closed his hatch and broke his window, it'd be your damn fault wouldnt it? You can be damn sure he would say so.
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I'd go with 50/50. If I was selling someone something and it happened, I'd at least offer 50% of the money to repair. It was an accident, but you should be taking more care of your car as well, especially what is loaded into it and how.
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None of those examples are close to what happened here. He was getting help from the person to load his car, he was not the victim of vandalism.
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I don't know why I would even waste my time on a useless little troll, but what does vandalism have to do with this thread? In any case, you would still be responsible for all of those scenarios unless you actually caught the person doing it.

You guys are missing his point. His point is that "your car, your problem" doesn't make
any sense. "Your car, your problem" would apply to the cases he listed. His point, I think,
is that it's not decided by whose car it is, but by who is receiving the favor. Example:

I borrow your truck to carry exercise equipment in. Your truck is damaged in the course of
hauling my new exercise equipment. Your car, your problem? No, you did ME a favor by loaning
me the truck, so I need to get it fixed.
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I admit I only read the first post, so here's my reply.. He took the initiative to grab the hatchback for some reason and slam it down. His fault entirely. It's a not his car is it? Did you tell him to slam it?

If it were me who smashed your back window by being an idiot and slamming it on my own without asking you, I'd be reaching into my pocket for my wallet before you even complained.
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Today I bought a used homegym and me and the seller were loading it into my car. Eventually we got it in there and the guy pushes the trunk (eh... ? on a hatchback)without noticing one of the parts touching the window. One second later the whole thing goes "bam"and the window shatters into 10k pieces.

Who is to blame?
He owed you a duty of care since there is a contractual relationship between you (buyer and seller) and due to the nature of the activity. A reasonable person would have made sure something as obvious as a part sticking out would harm your vehicle.

I would ask for a discount off the homegym to offset the damages you suffered.
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Old 04-21-2010, 06:23 PM   #48
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come on man you are crying for 200 bucks???


dont be cheap

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Old 04-21-2010, 07:11 PM   #49
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I would say you both should handle it like gentlemen and pay 50/50.
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Don't you have insurance? Glass coverage to be specific? I had someone break into my car and they busted a window out and it cost me about 5 minutes on the phone, 30 minutes waiting for them to install the new window and a little more than zero effort to sign the invoice.
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