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bdjerk · 07-29-2010, 02:17 PM

http://www.xbiz.com/news/123538

the final blow.

should it go through.

there's lots and lots of people to thank for this one.

Agent 488 · 07-29-2010, 02:20 PM

wont happen.

Nikki_Licks · 07-29-2010, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdjerk

http://www.xbiz.com/news/123538

there's lots and lots of people to thank for this one.

Interesting article, I am curious, who would that be?

Sly · 07-29-2010, 02:21 PM

I think Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, and thousands of other companies might have a problem with this. Companies with money.

cambaby · 07-29-2010, 02:21 PM

Lol oh noes Congress is going to protect us from cookies, never happen, Google wont let it happen.

2012 · 07-29-2010, 02:24 PM

it's been real, see you in the funny pages

epitome · 07-29-2010, 02:28 PM

Yup, the FTC is going to ban IP tracking and cookies...thereby making it harder for law enforcement to do their jobs. Won't happen.

$5 submissions · 07-29-2010, 02:39 PM

I'm not sure but wouldn't affiliate programs just move offshore? The same way many call centers skirt the do not call registry by moving their operations overseas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bdjerk

http://www.xbiz.com/news/123538

the final blow.

should it go through.

there's lots and lots of people to thank for this one.

fatfoo · 07-29-2010, 02:48 PM

I like the Animality in Mortal Kombat.
Anyone agree?
There is also Babality and Friendship options.

Babality

Animality

Friendship

In Friendship, the beaten player stays alive and he/she is given an autograph or a toy. In Babality, the beaten player is turned into a child.

brentbacardi · 07-29-2010, 03:09 PM

Wow did fatfoo really just post this? Awesome!

Nicky · 07-29-2010, 03:13 PM

Unless the internet is offline I'll still be here slinging porn in 3 years.

tiger · 07-29-2010, 03:16 PM

It won't happen.

fuzebox · 07-29-2010, 03:20 PM

1 org laugh

JBlack · 07-29-2010, 03:23 PM

This shit ain't goin anywhere. If this shit gets approved not only porn will be affected but all major mainstream CPA networks, u know ... those networks that have boatloads of money and who are ass-deep in the interwebz economy...

Shit like that can cause the implosion of the interwebz as we now it. On the other hand if it passes, CPA networks can just move offshore, the only problem would then be having that "do not call-style plugin" installed in all browsers

Talk about a monstrous clusterfuck...

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox

1 org laugh

1 ORGY LAUGH indeed!

Ace of Spades · 07-29-2010, 03:40 PM

They will end up banning the passing of personal info not cookie tracking is my bet.

myneid · 07-29-2010, 03:42 PM

HA HA
lightspeed wont die unless steve does

signupdamnit · 07-29-2010, 05:23 PM

It's not likely that it will happen however I think sole cookie based tracking should go away anyway. There are other ways to do it as well. Part of the reason many programs don't use them is because they don't want to. They make more without them.

Even if it did happen it's still not necessarily the end of the affiliate system as we know it. There are ways around it. Both technical and not so technical including using a multiplying factor to determine payouts. For example, if it's determined that 40% of users have it on then you would multiply the affiliate payout accordingly to compensate for the loss to the affiliate due to tracking problems. Now whether sponsors would actually have the decency to do this... another story (some loss already occurs but we don't see many sponsors offering an extra 10% etc over it, do we?). And there's better solutions of a more technical nature to help with the problem anyway.

Some other ideas off the top of my head:

1. white labels / specialized domains for an individual affiliate
2. Referrer based tracking (to compliment existing systems .. few block referrer data)
3. IP based tracking ( to compliment ...)
...

D Ghost · 07-29-2010, 05:40 PM

idiotic waste of government money again

marketsmart · 07-29-2010, 06:19 PM

you are all a stupid bunch of fucking idiots... you are the same assclowns that said tubes wont effect business..

guess what? 20 years ago they said we would never have a black president...

get your heads out of your asses and learn to never say never, just like you never say everyone..

it leaves no room to be wrong....

fucking idiots....

.

$5 submissions · 07-29-2010, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ The Kid

idiotic waste of government money again

I hear ya, man. Talking about tracking, government tracking is ramping up with google's help: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010...ve-google-cia/

Adam_M · 07-29-2010, 06:31 PM

This is great news for torrent sites and really bad news for all those music, movie and tv companies trying to protect from free freeloaders!

bdjerk · 07-29-2010, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart

you are all a stupid bunch of fucking idiots... you are the same assclowns that said tubes wont effect business..

guess what? 20 years ago they said we would never have a black president...

get your heads out of your asses and learn to never say never, just like you never say everyone..

it leaves no room to be wrong....

fucking idiots....

.

exactly.

Barry-xlovecam · 07-29-2010, 08:27 PM

I doubt this proposed legislation will ever get out of committee ? this is an election year so I look at this in that aspect too.

URL based tracking on a session only basis is a fall-back. No return cookies any more ? affiliate programs could survive on that. Maybe, adjusting their payouts to the new format.

Charles Darwin said: "To change is difficult. Not to change is fatal."

LongBG · 07-29-2010, 09:09 PM

What a joke, I laughed good.

bdjerk · 07-29-2010, 09:10 PM

arock10 · 07-29-2010, 10:30 PM

not gonna happen. opt out of cookies, opt out of internet

Vjo · 07-29-2010, 11:37 PM

I'm going the other route for a change.. you affiliates are all washed up.

There is about as much chance to get rid of a porn affil as a stray cat you once fed.. we (they) will keep meowing at you with quality traffic, tight conversions and irresistable charms

until you feed us (them).

The bird just sits where the pasteur is greenest.

Meaning (sorry Lazy

) I'll (we'll) go to whoever sells. And someone will always sell. So please no gloom and doom.

Lets be merry. It was a good July all in all for the bird and for a few pasteur owners.

The Porn Nerd · 07-29-2010, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo

I'm going the other route for a change.. you affiliates are all washed up.

There is about as much chance to get rid of a porn affil as a stray cat you once fed.. we (they) will keep meowing at you with quality traffic, tight conversions and irresistable charms

until you feed us (them).

The bird just sits where the pasteur is greenest.

Meaning (sorry Lazy

) we go to whoever sells. And someone will always sell. So please no gloom and doom.

Lets be merry. It was a good July all in all for the bird.

Me-OWWWWWW baby!

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Me-OWWWWWW baby!

Artie Lange: Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrre!

I'm telling ya, I owe it all to that Motivational Music Thread I did. lol

I may do another for August. But this time I may actually need the Cocaine (as someone thought I was on) lol

Sativa not Indica I have been told is the key. lol

I couldnt resist (inside board joke)

I got my eye on your main site MrPeabody

Why?

1) Cause it's getting popular

2) Cause I like your style

3) Cause I have this weird thing where wasnt MrPeabody one of my early cartoons.

hmmm

"Help Mr Wizard." No thats a different cartoon. Tooter Turtle to be exac.

Wasnt MrPeabody this kind of know it all dog (beagle maybe) who was also real cool or was that just Snagglepuss.

hmmm

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 12:38 AM

I'll bet Indica will work too. I wouldnt know.

Maybe I'll fly to San Fran to create the next August Motivational Music Thread from there and find out.

I'll have that thread to 500 views by dawn with sheer.. .. talent.

Dating Port · 07-30-2010, 12:47 AM

Tubes affected the industry but I still make money.
Cocaine is illegal but they still make money.
Government is bad but they still make money.
Nothing is going away.................

papill0n · 07-30-2010, 12:56 AM

thanks for letting us know

pornmasta · 07-30-2010, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby

Lol oh noes Congress is going to protect us from cookies, never happen, Google wont let it happen.

Google [insert action] because it's a fair use of [insert action] (thank you big brother).

You are a pornographer, shame on you!

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 01:13 AM

Since I mentioned San Fran... couple tunes

It's the middle of the night in the States. To those in the daytime I do apologize.

In the states 99 of 100 would rather see and maybe hear these tunes than talk about the affil's demise.

The affil is alive and well and living in San Francisco.

pornmasta · 07-30-2010, 01:28 AM

"The loveliness of Paris, seems someshow sadly gay"

--> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Marais

onwebcam · 07-30-2010, 01:41 AM

so who'sur daddy?

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 01:47 AM

"Two days ago, I saw a vehicle that would haul that tanker. You want to get out of here? You talk to me."

You've got some great sayings.

I like the other one.. How did it go..

"I used to get high, I still do, but I used to too"

Where's Pauly to tell us "Stoney"

Great stuff

pornmasta · 07-30-2010, 01:48 AM

yet another useless post...

crazytrini85 · 07-30-2010, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

wont happen.

Like the DO NOT CALL list didn't happen?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly

I think Microsoft, Google, Yahoo, and thousands of other companies might have a problem with this. Companies with money.

Replace those names with the giant tel-com companies that were running things back in the day when "do not call" was put into play.

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 01:58 AM

Quote:

yet another useless post...

Man that is some hard shit but i gave it a listen.

Makes Alice Cooper look like Tony Bennett.

Altho I think Tony B has got ya on Melody. lol

Would that be called "Killer Rock"

And what kind of drugs do I need to get into it. I would guess pcp would be one or maybe just a chainsaw to my leg.

pornmasta · 07-30-2010, 02:13 AM

Aphex twin is pretty famous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_to_Daddy#Charts

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 02:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

Aphex twin is pretty famous

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_to_Daddy#Charts

OK Thx man I need to stay up on this shit.

Its a good thing I am a pervy old fuck. Cause there is a gaaaaaaap between me and my surfers.

lol

I guess that is why we outsource guys like fatfoo.

Because the first time I say "hip daddy o" they are out of there. lol HIGH bounce rate.

Fuck I dont even know who the aphex twins are. Sounds like something you might get on your trees. lol

---

3 reasons:

1) Nicole Scherzinger

2) Miley Cyrus hitting it beautifully

3) I feel the love in this thread. I do.

I feel Australia and Europe looking this way. Fear not my friends. The greatest country in the world will rise again and we will take you with us.

pornmasta · 07-30-2010, 02:26 AM

Theme for pornographers: "The Hand"

Quote:

And what kind of drugs do I need to get into it.

Here you got the answer.

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 02:52 AM

Def worth DL'ing WATW 1080p 234M - looks awsum in 1080p hd - I got to go watch it before I click "Velvet Acid Christ" lol

Soon hard metal or rock (what is that shit) music will be like.. I better not even go there.

Use your darkest imagination.

And throw in a butcher knife, pcp and some guy with a nasty grill and lots of yelling.

Its the yelling.. do we have to yell. Cant we keep it down a bit.

You made your point. You can kick my ass. lol

So much testosterone and adrenalin in these hard (I wouldnt call em rock) songs today.

Vjo · 07-30-2010, 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta

Theme for pornographers: "The Hand"

Here you got the answer.

If you can honestly listen to that whole thing...

It's too fucken intense. It is intensity not music. THAT is the diff.

I finally penned the music gap.

Grant it I imagine the word "acid" is a tip. Man I dont know. Bad trip there.

Use that in modern day sound warfare to drive out people held up in dwellings.

That song is why I dont leave home anymore.

Peace out. I am out of here. And you too I'm sure.

Naechy · 07-30-2010, 04:33 AM

fatality

bdjerk · 07-30-2010, 03:35 PM

never say never monkeys.

Agent 488 · 07-30-2010, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Like the DO NOT CALL list didn't happen?

who said it wasn't going to happen? consumers hate unsolicited calls so there was a demand and was politically popular.

does your average surfer care about cookies? the only cookies they know about come in a bag.

not the same at all.

The Porn Nerd · 07-30-2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vjo

Artie Lange: Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrrre!

I'm telling ya, I owe it all to that Motivational Music Thread I did. lol

I may do another for August. But this time I may actually need the Cocaine (as someone thought I was on) lol

Sativa not Indica I have been told is the key. lol

I couldnt resist (inside board joke)

I got my eye on your main site MrPeabody

Why?

1) Cause it's getting popular

2) Cause I like your style

3) Cause I have this weird thing where wasnt MrPeabody one of my early cartoons.

hmmm

"Help Mr Wizard." No thats a different cartoon. Tooter Turtle to be exac.

Wasnt MrPeabody this kind of know it all dog (beagle maybe) who was also real cool or was that just Snagglepuss.

hmmm

Thank you, Thank you!
(I was out getting some Bubba Kush from my "friend" who texted me, all excited. 'It's in! It's in!' So off I went - WHOOSH! And now here I go - WHOOSH! MMMmmmm baby...)

Sativa is the head high, Indica more of a body/couch potato high. For me, I CANNOT do too much of Indica 'cause then I wanna lay down every 2-3 hours and take a nappy-poo. Of course, Indica is easier to grow/sell, so finding a (consistent) supply of good Sativa is a challenge, here in NYC, at least.

Mister Peabody World be blowin' up...promote, promote, promote; make $, make $, make $!

(God, I sound like a Geico commercial...)

Have a great weekend! PS - currently I'm listening to - don't laff now - old Neil Young and CSNY live bootlegs from '69 - '74. Wow. That kind of shit excites me. LOL Next up: Tom Petty's live anthology. I'm ollllld....

PPS: Yes, it was Sherman and Mr.Peabody and the Wayback Machine. LOL But that wasn't my motivation - I just thought the name sounded funny. That's why I always spell out 'Mister' and not 'Mr.'. Still, Google loves that little dog more than me. And a band apparently has that name, too. Grrr!

Ethersync · 07-30-2010, 06:02 PM

No more "backtracing"...

07-29-2010, 02:17 PM	#1
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signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	It's not likely that it will happen however I think sole cookie based tracking should go away anyway. There are other ways to do it as well. Part of the reason many programs don't use them is because they don't want to. They make more without them. Even if it did happen it's still not necessarily the end of the affiliate system as we know it. There are ways around it. Both technical and not so technical including using a multiplying factor to determine payouts. For example, if it's determined that 40% of users have it on then you would multiply the affiliate payout accordingly to compensate for the loss to the affiliate due to tracking problems. Now whether sponsors would actually have the decency to do this... another story (some loss already occurs but we don't see many sponsors offering an extra 10% etc over it, do we?). And there's better solutions of a more technical nature to help with the problem anyway. Some other ideas off the top of my head: 1. white labels / specialized domains for an individual affiliate 2. Referrer based tracking (to compliment existing systems .. few block referrer data) 3. IP based tracking ( to compliment ...) ... Last edited by signupdamnit; 07-29-2010 at 05:27 PM..

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D Ghost null Industry Role: Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9,820	idiotic waste of government money again

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Barry-xlovecam It's 42 Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Global Posts: 18,083	I doubt this proposed legislation will ever get out of committee ? this is an election year so I look at this in that aspect too. URL based tracking on a session only basis is a fall-back. No return cookies any more ? affiliate programs could survive on that. Maybe, adjusting their payouts to the new format. Charles Darwin said: "To change is difficult. Not to change is fatal."

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Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	I'm going the other route for a change.. you affiliates are all washed up. There is about as much chance to get rid of a porn affil as a stray cat you once fed.. we (they) will keep meowing at you with quality traffic, tight conversions and irresistable charms until you feed us (them). The bird just sits where the pasteur is greenest. Meaning (sorry Lazy ) I'll (we'll) go to whoever sells. And someone will always sell. So please no gloom and doom. Lets be merry. It was a good July all in all for the bird and for a few pasteur owners. Last edited by Vjo; 07-29-2010 at 11:49 PM..

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Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	I'll bet Indica will work too. I wouldnt know. Maybe I'll fly to San Fran to create the next August Motivational Music Thread from there and find out. I'll have that thread to 500 views by dawn with sheer.. .. talent. Last edited by Vjo; 07-30-2010 at 12:50 AM..

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Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	Since I mentioned San Fran... couple tunes It's the middle of the night in the States. To those in the daytime I do apologize. In the states 99 of 100 would rather see and maybe hear these tunes than talk about the affil's demise. The affil is alive and well and living in San Francisco. Last edited by Vjo; 07-30-2010 at 01:25 AM..

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