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Old 10-15-2004, 05:38 PM   #1
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Mike Tyson vs Bruce Lee. Who would win ?

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Bruce Lee. What kind of silly question is that.

800lb woman vs a ham sandwich, who would win?
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Bruce Lee is dead, so I'm guessing Tyson could beat the fuck out of a corpse.
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Hand to hand both in there prime. Would be interesting to see. I would put my money on Tyson.
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I would put my money on Bruce Lee even though he is dead. I imagine Tyson would see his ghost and quit the fight...
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Tyson. Bruce lee has been dead for some time now.
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Tyson because Bruce Lee won't show up to the fight...
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Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked by almost any BJJ Blue Belt. Let alone Mike Tyson.
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In the ring, Tyson. Bruce based a lot of Jeet Kun Do on western boxing technique and said that boxers were the king of the ring. Lee was asked once if he thought he could take Ali and he said no way and that Ali would murder him, something along the lines of "look at the size of his hands"

On the streets then it would be a lot closer but with combat rules like those in K1 Bruce would not do as well as you think.
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Bruce Lee would dance around Mike like a butterfly. However, one lucky punch from Mike would just about send the green hornet back into his grave...
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Is this Pre jail tyson or post jail tyson?

Pre jail Tyson, ill go with Tyson.

Post jail, Ill go with Bruce
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maybe if bruce lee and mike tyson were the same weight then it would be a fight worth watching...
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Bruce Lee gets his ass kicked by almost any BJJ Blue Belt. Let alone Mike Tyson.

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Lee would fuck him up in like 10 seconds
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Pre jail Tyson, ill go with Tyson.

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Also if it's boxing rules, Tyson. If it's anything goes on the streets, Bruce.
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Is this Pre jail tyson or post jail tyson?

Pre jail Tyson, ill go with Tyson.

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I agree. When tyson was in his prime he was almost unstopable.
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The issue that Bruce would face is that martial arts, especially for him had much more power up close. This was largely due to the fact that he would use the other persons wweight against them. So to get in close, he would get hit.

And we all know that Tyson can have a devastating punch.

But, If Bruce managed to get in, the fight wold be over ina bour 15 seconds.
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ive always wondered this about the two in their prime...i imagine that bruce would be too fast for tyson to hit and i would think that he could kick tyson in the legs so many times so fast and hard that he couldnt even walk.. this being because boxers legs dont have to withstand the damange of kickboxers or other fighting sports
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Bruce Lee was a good actor, but he studied Kung Fu.

It turns out, KF is just about worthless in a real fight.

ergo, Bruce Lee isn't that tough. There are thugs on this board that could kick his ass. Get a clue people.

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oh btw:

Superman...? just a comic book.

and leprechauns don't exist. Neither does Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny, and a little asian dude with very little real fighting experience doesn't beat Mike Tyson or any good NCAA wrestler, any BJJ guy, any big guy with a bad attitude and fast hands.

puh-leeze.
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Yeah yeah everyone that studies BJJ is always about how they're superman. I saw Ken Shamrock hold more than his own with Royce Gracie.

Do you ever stop and ask yourself why no REAL strikers compete in UFC? By real striker I mean someone with the punching power of Mike Tyson. I'll tell you why. There's no reason to fight multiple times for the possibility of winning a shitty little prize that's 10x less than a pro fighter would make losing on a big card.

Is BJJ a complete and powerful martial art? For sure. It wasn't sent down by god to be the end all solution to fighting.
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Um duh. Bruce lee. All Mike Tyson can do is hit hard as fucking hell.
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Yeah yeah everyone that studies BJJ is always about how they're superman. I saw Ken Shamrock hold more than his own with Royce Gracie.

Do you ever stop and ask yourself why no REAL strikers compete in UFC? By real striker I mean someone with the punching power of Mike Tyson. I'll tell you why. There's no reason to fight multiple times for the possibility of winning a shitty little prize that's 10x less than a pro fighter would make losing on a big card.

Is BJJ a complete and powerful martial art? For sure. It wasn't sent down by god to be the end all solution to fighting.
first off, Shamrock outweighs Royce by about 50 lbs. Or more. And Royce tapped his ass out in their first fight and Shamrock held on for dear life and fought for a draw in their second. And Shamrock is a real live world-class fighter in legitimate and proven fighting arts, as opposed to an actor who studies a useless system and never did more than get in a few backyard scraps.

Second, there are plenty of 'real' strikers in MMA, always have been. Art Jimmerson was in the first UFC. The reason boxers get their clocks cleaned is because they can't fight on the ground. Also, you don't need the punching power of Mike Tyson to be a good striker in MMA because they're basically using their bare hands, and you don't have to hit like Tyson to knock a man out with your naked fist.

Botha got fucked up in K-1, let alone trying to compete in UFC.

Here's what the UFC is, for those who've never heard of it. All styles allowed, mano a mano, and the last one standing is the cock of the walk. For the first three years, until everybody started learning BJJ, Royce Gracie - 170 lbs - tapped out everybody, all sizes, from all other martial arts. If they hadn't started using BJJ, he'd be doing it to this day.

All the Gracies did was fight anyone and everyone and never NEVER lose until people started fighting like the Gracies. You people who still think Nin-Jitsu, Pressure Point Fighting and Kung-Fu work are no better than flat-earthers.

The question isn't in debate, it's been settled for anyone paying attention. Ground Fighters beat stand-up fighters. EVERYBODY beats Kung Fu fighters. If you don't have submissions in your game, a submission fighter is going to whip your ass.

BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo and Wrestling if you learn some BJJ submissions are about the only things that work in real life. He who has ears (and eyes and an internet connection and can read english) let him hear.

Everybody else go on waiting for Santy Claus to come down the chimney
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first off, Shamrock outweighs Royce by about 50 lbs. Or more. And Royce tapped his ass out in their first fight and Shamrock held on for dear life and fought for a draw in their second. And Shamrock is a real live world-class fighter in legitimate and proven fighting arts, as opposed to an actor who studies a useless system and never did more than get in a few backyard scraps.

Second, there are plenty of 'real' strikers in MMA, always have been. Art Jimmerson was in the first UFC. The reason boxers get their clocks cleaned is because they can't fight on the ground. Also, you don't need the punching power of Mike Tyson to be a good striker in MMA because they're basically using their bare hands, and you don't have to hit like Tyson to knock a man out with your naked fist.

Botha got fucked up in K-1, let alone trying to compete in UFC.

Here's what the UFC is, for those who've never heard of it. All styles allowed, mano a mano, and the last one standing is the cock of the walk. For the first three years, until everybody started learning BJJ, Royce Gracie - 170 lbs - tapped out everybody, all sizes, from all other martial arts. If they hadn't started using BJJ, he'd be doing it to this day.

All the Gracies did was fight anyone and everyone and never NEVER lose until people started fighting like the Gracies. You people who still think Nin-Jitsu, Pressure Point Fighting and Kung-Fu work are no better than flat-earthers.

The question isn't in debate, it's been settled for anyone paying attention. Ground Fighters beat stand-up fighters. EVERYBODY beats Kung Fu fighters. If you don't have submissions in your game, a submission fighter is going to whip your ass.

BJJ, Muay Thai, Sambo and Wrestling if you learn some BJJ submissions are about the only things that work in real life. He who has ears (and eyes and an internet connection and can read english) let him hear.

Everybody else go on waiting for Santy Claus to come down the chimney
I know all about the UFC. I've watched it since the very begining. It was given no credit in any realy fighting circles when it first came out. No weight classes is absurd. Like you point out, Shamrock has 50 pounds on Royce.

The first one's were "OK". Lots of speculation about Gracie fights because they promoted the whole thing. I'm not much for conspiracy theories myself, but Royce never seemed like a great champ. The draw with Shamrock was the most boring thing I've ever watched. Yay laying around for 20 minutes in the guard. Yippe! I bet Shamrock would have won that match if it took place under new UFC rules with rounds. Of course the weight classes would fuck that up now.

I've seen Gracie take a few punches in the face. My point about Tyson was just that Gracie wouldn't be standing after just one big Tyson punch. He might not wake up ever again from an ungloved Tyson punch. This it the man that punched a whole through a brick wall.

In short I basically agree with you with the caveat that a really good striker with basic knowledge of ground defense is a better street fighter in my books than a pure ground fighter. Most fights I've been in over my lifetime have been over in seconds. It's not like you can lay around in the guard for 20 minutes outside of a club waiting for that big choke.
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As for the Kung Fu thing, yeah I agree completely. It's a wonderful art but not much use for fighting.

I'm not sure I've been able to put in to words what I was thinking about boxers. Imagine Tyson in his prime with a few years work in basic ground techniques. Just imagine Ground and Pound from that man, and his legs were like tree trunks too.

There's absolutely no reason for someone that could punch with that kind of force to go that route though. Why the fuck bother when they can get the real big pay days boxing?
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How can you guys say Tyson
tyson is not a bare knucke fighter,
even if Bruce Lee using only his hands would knock tyson out faster than he could blink.
Tyson is heavyeight figher, makes him very slow

Didnt any of you see the first UFC ??
boxer v martial artist
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In short I basically agree with you with the caveat that a really good striker with basic knowledge of ground defense is a better street fighter in my books than a pure ground fighter. Most fights I've been in over my lifetime have been over in seconds. It's not like you can lay around in the guard for 20 minutes outside of a club waiting for that big choke.
yes there's something to this no doubt, being a good striker is a good way to get it over with quickly BUT it leaves you open to getting hit yourself. It's easier for someone to get lucky throwing punches than grappling. A really good grappler (someone better than me) won't take 20 minutes to exploit something on an untrained guy though, more like 20 seconds. They don't wait for you to fall into something, they PULL you into something.

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[B]Bruce Lee was a good actor, but he studied Kung Fu.

It turns out, KF is just about worthless in a real fight.

ergo, Bruce Lee isn't that tough. There are thugs on this board that could kick his ass. Get a clue people.

He did not just learn KF, he was open to learning many different arts... If BJJ was available, I'm sure he'd learn that as well.

Hence in the MMA scene he is like the God father that started the revolution...
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Very true, that is why anything can happen in a fight. One good shot you can say nighty night.
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Bruce wouold dance around Mike like a butterfly sting him like KungFu scorpion..good fight to watch though..
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He did not just learn KF, he was open to learning many different arts... If BJJ was available, I'm sure he'd learn that as well.

Hence in the MMA scene he is like the God father that started the revolution...
No, that would be Helio Gracie, the fighter. Bruce Lee was an actor.
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Old 10-16-2004, 12:25 AM   #48
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No, that would be Helio Gracie, the fighter. Bruce Lee was an actor.

I disagree, Bruce Lee was not just an actor. And BBJ came from Judo.. They just perfected/modified it.
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Old 10-16-2004, 12:26 AM   #49
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Bruce Lee easily. Although total respect for Tyson; but Bruce Lee would rape him.
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Tyson would win for sure i fhe got a punch on Bruce Lee. I am even sure this guy would kick Bruce Lees ass. Kung Fu Solider

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