Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

ThumbLord · 07-16-2010, 02:42 PM

interesting thread, nice reading

slavdogg · 07-16-2010, 02:46 PM

Nathan, congrads and good luck !!

Will we see newNATS anytime soon from you ?

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hey bro, did you somehow miss what happened to the entire porn industry over the last 3 years? Jesus man. I know you're trying to do a bit of cleanup on the bad reputation.

But don't you think just saying: "Hey, we know a lot of you had your shit stolen by Pornhub over the years and we won't do that anymore" would be a lot better than the "play dumb" act you're doing?

Come on man. There are a lot of angry people who have every right to be mad at you. I'm not one, because I was always too smart and too fast for Pornhub to affect my sales. heh-heh

But hundreds of producers and paysites were screwed hard by Pornhub posting their FULL scenes and even going out of their way to stretch the vids to move the watermarks offscreen.

You and everybody else knows that is how pornhub built up a damn monster traffic site. If I were in here doing damage control, I believe I'd talk straight to these folks and try to generate some good will instead of acting like you don't know anything about anything.

Robbie, not trying to piss anyone off, LickMyBalls is just not making any sense...

Regarding your actual comments about the tubes though.. No I did not miss what happened to the entire porn industry over the last 3 years. We very likely have difference of opinion why certain things have and are happening, but I definitely did not miss it.

As you should have seen in my other posts (and in the article on xbiz), I am getting changes done and making it clear to the industry that I want to work with everyone and not against everyone. See what people like Far-L posted here too btw...

I know what a tube is, you know what a tube is. We clearly did not spend money on buying networks if we thought we could not run them legally.

What was done on the networks in the past, I can not comment on, I can only reiterate what we have said in the press release and what I have said in my reply to crazytrini85: We are working on changing many things in the tubes we own, to help everyone in the industry work with us and not against us, to help everyone leverage the traffic the tubes have, and to try to convince other tube owners to follow our course.

The Paid Partner Content Program is one of many such things I am having implemented on the tubes... there is more to follow which I can for obvious reasons not talk about right now, but be sure we will be doing things that help everyone.

Controlling some of the biggest tube sites in our industry gives us the leverage to try to change something, without someone else just stepping up and destroying all the positive changes we have done. I am sure most of you understand that we need to do this slowly though since if we do not we will simply become a non-player in the tube market and have others, with likely much less favorable thinking, destroy this all again.

Robbie, I hope this explains my stand in this a bit more, if you have any questions, or want to discuss this in person, I'm happy to do so in Miami...

epitome · 07-16-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hey bro, did you somehow miss what happened to the entire porn industry over the last 3 years? Jesus man. I know you're trying to do a bit of cleanup on the bad reputation.

But don't you think just saying: "Hey, we know a lot of you had your shit stolen by Pornhub over the years and we won't do that anymore" would be a lot better than the "play dumb" act you're doing?

Come on man. There are a lot of angry people who have every right to be mad at you. I'm not one, because I was always too smart and too fast for Pornhub to affect my sales. heh-heh

But hundreds of producers and paysites were screwed hard by Pornhub posting their FULL scenes and even going out of their way to stretch the vids to move the watermarks offscreen.

You and everybody else knows that is how pornhub built up a damn monster traffic site. If I were in here doing damage control, I believe I'd talk straight to these folks and try to generate some good will instead of acting like you don't know anything about anything.

You always (OK, usually, as if I say always, your haters will try to find one thread you were wrong in) know how to come into a thread and say just the right thing.

Robbie · 07-16-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

if I say always, your haters will try to find one thread you were wrong in

No such thing exists. This is Robbie you're talking to!

spunky99 · 07-16-2010, 03:18 PM

dmca's sent..

epitome · 07-16-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

No such thing exists. This is Robbie you're talking to!

You had to go there!

Pretend the balloon is your ego.

But hey, I have nothing but love for you and CM. I can't wait to meet that crazy big tit prostitute (or whatever you fondly call your wife

)and you in real life.

epitome · 07-16-2010, 03:22 PM

Fabian,

This is what people are looking for:

I bought a really fucked up company that did a lot of fucked up shit to many people. I don't agree with a lot of the practices of the old owners and by x date you will see that I have turned a bad company into a good one.

So good ol' mano-a-mano straight talk is what people want.

SteveLightspeed · 07-16-2010, 03:31 PM

"Now that we have made our millions by FUCKING THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, we want to apologize and pretend we are going to stop acting like douchebags. We know you have no choice but to shake our hands at Internext. Yay us!"

This industry celebrates the criminals and shits on everyone else. It deserves what it gets. My retirement announcement is imminent.

Steve Lightspeed

Nautilus · 07-16-2010, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

But don't you think just saying: "Hey, we know a lot of you had your shit stolen by Pornhub over the years and we won't do that anymore" would be a lot better than the "play dumb" act you're doing?

That would be the most reasonable thing indeed they can say, but we aren't going to hear that because they're going to just keep stealing our shit under the bs "user submitted" excuse which was just confirmed:

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Originally Posted by Nathan

As for contested videos, all you have to do is alert the site to get it taken down – no questions asked.

So it is business as usual, steal until caught and play dumb when asked questions "or it's user not us we'll remove your shit right away".

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome

Fabian,

This is what people are looking for:

I bought a really fucked up company that did a lot of fucked up shit to many people. I don't agree with a lot of the practices of the old owners and by x date you will see that I have turned a bad company into a good one.

So good ol' mano-a-mano straight talk is what people want.

"People" want to usually make money, we are helping them do so and helping them do more.

I can not comment on what was done with certain assets before we acquired them since I simply was not involved. I may have an opinion, but I see no point in starting some huge weird argument here.

If you expect me to bash the old owners of Brazzers, trust me, I would never do that, they built one of the strongest and most profitable companies in adult today, before owning any tube sites even.

The fact that I am changing certain aspects of how the tubes work, should make it clear how I stand to this in general. I can however not guarantee a date all these changes will be done on, for again obvious reasons.

Major (Tom) · 07-16-2010, 03:36 PM

Congrats old friend

duke

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

Congrats old friend

duke

Thx Duke,

tell me I will see you in Miami! Please!

Semi-Retired-Dave · 07-16-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

"Now that we have made our millions by FUCKING THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, we want to apologize and pretend we are going to stop acting like douchebags. We know you have no choice but to shake our hands at Internext. Yay us!"

This industry celebrates the criminals and shits on everyone else. It deserves what it gets. My retirement announcement is imminent.

Steve Lightspeed

Finally, someone sees what's going on here. Thank you.
Words well spoken.

Not only do we all know for a fact that they fucked up our industry, but now they are going to merge it with their existing business's to fuck us even harder.

What do they say, it's better to ask for forgiveness then permission? Well, they are sorry that they fucked up the industry, but they are making themselves over 40 million a year or so, why should they care?

Sorry Nathan, I don't think I know you personally, or maybe I do.
Best thing you can do now is turn off the free tube model and turn them into paying tubes.

Nautilus · 07-16-2010, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

I am sure most of you understand that we need to do this slowly though since if we do not we will simply become a non-player in the tube market and have others, with likely much less favorable thinking, destroy this all again.

So you want us to "understand" that you need to keep stealing our shit to keep you a "player"? Do Jesus, that's one of the finest pieces of hypocricy I've ever heard.

Loosing a marketplace after switching to legal forms of running a tube site is bullshit excuse too btw. Redtube went 100% legal after AEBN took over and they're doing just fine traffic wise, posting only those videos that were either legally licensed or submitted by verified copyright holders. Same goes for youporn.

StickyGreen · 07-16-2010, 03:44 PM

Vote NO on prop 19...........

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave

Sorry Nathan, I don't think I know you personally, or maybe I do.
Best thing you can do now is turn off the free tube model and turn them into paying tubes.

No need to be sorry Dave, and no, we do not know each other.

We have a plan of attack in terms of all assets we acquire, it might not always follow the same exact steps others think it should, but we have many reasons for each one of them.

We are on track with our plans currently, and will do more press releases when the time comes, every step of the way.

I will live with people not agreeing with me on the way this is all being done, we will just have to agree to disagree.

beerptrol · 07-16-2010, 03:52 PM

Here's my official response

SmokeyTheBear · 07-16-2010, 03:55 PM

all i wanna know is...

is your name nathan , fabien or kate ?

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

all i wanna know is...

is your name nathan , fabien or kate ?

Not Kate I'm afraid :/

Some people here seem to call me "asshole" or "mother fucker" too.. I'll survive...

Kate is our north american PR person.

Loch · 07-16-2010, 04:08 PM

This thread is starting to tickle my pissy nerve.
Its simply astounding to me that people cant look or at the very minimum TRY to look towards the future instead of always trying to place blame no matter what and bringing up the past which quite frankly have been nothing more than 3000 people bitching about the same thing over and over again without doing anything about it.

If Mother Teresa (Passed i know) bought Brazzers + networks tomorrow you would all call her the devil as well.

Most people have just found out about this ownership shift and yet the last 30 days people have already been talking about how "Some" tubes have been changing.
Does that make the past right, no we all know that, but as we all know that why keep up the same rant?

Give it time and watch the situation closely.

Now go ahead and take a few jabs at me for posting this.
But know that i have felt the same as you, but my business tactics conquered by not sulking and we are now twice the size....

colin farrell · 07-16-2010, 04:17 PM

hey natahn, fuck you. lol. dance motherfucker.

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Loch

This thread is starting to tickle my pissy nerve.
Its simply astounding to me that people cant look or at the very minimum TRY to look towards the future instead of always trying to place blame no matter what and bringing up the past which quite frankly have been nothing more than 3000 people bitching about the same thing over and over again without doing anything about it.

If Mother Teresa (Passed i know) bought Brazzers + networks tomorrow you would all call her the devil as well.

Most people have just found out about this ownership shift and yet the last 30 days people have already been talking about how "Some" tubes have been changing.
Does that make the past right, no we all know that, but as we all know that why keep up the same rant?

Give it time and watch the situation closely.

Now go ahead and take a few jabs at me for posting this.
But know that i have felt the same as you, but my business tactics conquered by not sulking and we are now twice the size....

This goes WAY beyond tubes. In fact.. it has nothing to do with tubes WHATSOEVER. You'll see.

SmokeyTheBear · 07-16-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

"People" want to usually make money, we are helping them do so and helping them do more.

i think he is trying to say , people make MORE money with people they trust . Help us trust you. I think many people are wary of the " we are here to help you make more money" line. Everyone who says that usually is ripping you off , lol ( no offense or accusation intended ) nobody is here to help anyone, anyone with common sense is here to make themselves money , period end of story. Sure you want to help , you want to help others because it makes you more money, no need to beat around the bush, the common person already knows and understands this and any variance reeks of bullshit .

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Originally Posted by Nathan

I can not comment on what was done with certain assets before we acquired them since I simply was not involved. I may have an opinion, but I see no point in starting some huge weird argument here.

just to give you an idea of what you said sounds like coming from someone else.

SmokeyTheBear just bought BP OIL.

reporter - "SmokeyTheBear , now that you are the new owner of BP oil, what do you have to say to the millions of people affected by the huge oil spill BP caused "

smokey - "I can not comment on what was done with certain assets before we acquired them since I simply was not involved. I may have an opinion, but I see no point in starting some huge weird argument here."

heh

sounds pretty

i could go on...

reporter - " you seriously arent even going to comment on the huge oil spill bp caused ?"

smokey - "If you expect me to bash the old owners of BP oil, trust me, I would never do that, they built one of the strongest and most profitable companies in the oil industry today, before spilling any oil even"

theres more..

reporter - "So it is going to be business as usual, spilling oil willy nilly ?"

smokey - "The fact that I am changing certain aspects of how the oil drilling work, should make it clear how I stand to this in general. I can however not guarantee a date all these changes will be done on, for again obvious reasons"

reporter - " So you will change things but you cant tell us what or when "

smokey - "That's correct, for obvious reasons"

reporter - "Sorry , i missed the memo , what are the obvious reasons ? "

smokey - " The whole spilly spilly oil thingy"

reporter - " you mean the rupture that caused millions of barrels of oil to flow freely into once pristine marshlands, killing untolds amounts of animals and plants "

smokey - "Thats the one, we call it "it who's name cannot be spoken " "

i'm just fuggin wit ya.... but seriously.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-16-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Regarding your actual comments about the tubes though.. No I did not miss what happened to the entire porn industry over the last 3 years. We very likely have difference of opinion why certain things have and are happening, but I definitely did not miss it.

I know what a tube is, you know what a tube is. We clearly did not spend money on buying networks if we thought we could not run them legally.

What was done on the networks in the past, I can not comment on...

Comment on this. You ran Virage Media, which was among the worst copyright offenders (right along with Mansef), and was known for being heavily involved in piracy and screwing the industry.

Therefore, I find it very disingenuous of you to say you can't comment on how Mansef was run in the past, when you ran some of your own websites in the very same way people have criticized Mansef for.

You've ducked your connection to Virage up until now. Why is that?

So who all from Mansef is gone? The Manwin site is the same web site with the same contact info as Mansef (only the company name is changed).

It seems like the only thing that has changed is three letters in the company name.

SSDD...

ADG

teomaxxx · 07-16-2010, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Now I don't know who posted our stuff without persmission....

you looks a bit stupid now, sorry bro. the guys who posted your stuff were actually regular surfers uploading your content 24/7

everybody knows, that all that stolen content was uploaded by themselves, since submisson forms were actually closed

Mr Pheer · 07-16-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

That was a long time ago huh? If so, then yes... What nick might I remember you by?

I'll send you an ICQ. Very soon, it will all be clear.

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 04:37 PM

I must be living in some sort of weird warped time space continuum cunundrum sort of thing... I don't get why everyone is getting all mob mentality frenzied antagonistic here when they should be dancing a jig.

Nathan comes off like someone I would want to do business with - especially in light of the fact that he is taking all this abuse, which he is handling professionally and standing accountable, and noting the fact that he has only given positive statements of how Brazzers will move forward. Take it or leave it but at least give the new ownership time to prove themselves.

Go ahead and feel free to bag on us - no need to bring it all down on Nathan. We have survived and thrived through so many of these "sky is falling" scenarios it won't make a difference.

The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.

Mr Pheer · 07-16-2010, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

I must be living in some sort of weird warped time space continuum cunundrum sort of thing... I don't get why everyone is getting all mob mentality frenzied antagonistic here when they should be dancing a jig.

Nathan comes off like someone I would want to do business with - especially in light of the fact that he is taking all this abuse, which he is handling professionally and standing accountable, and noting the fact that he has only given positive statements of how Brazzers will move forward. Take it or leave it but at least give the new ownership time to prove themselves.

Go ahead and feel free to bag on us - no need to bring it all down on Nathan. We have survived and thrived through so many of these "sky is falling" scenarios it won't make a difference.

The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.

I've known Nathan for years and would have no problems at all doing business with him.

StickyGreen · 07-16-2010, 04:44 PM

This Nathan guy is the king of beating around the bush. All his posts have a lot of words in them but he is never really saying shit.

Agent 488 · 07-16-2010, 04:47 PM

what else does Virage Media run?

SteveLightspeed · 07-16-2010, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas

teomaxxx · 07-16-2010, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.

The thing I love about this thread, how many top notch buys and bros will squander any chance to work with a company that would do the same ( kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.), while pretending to be a good guys actually. Well, at least dont pretend so, you are loosing your invested time. We arent that stupid to eat the shit you wrote here....Of course the money comes first, but at least dont pretend to be good guys now. As I said, we are her for the money, not for the fun....so take your lies somewhere else.

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

I must be living in some sort of weird warped time space continuum cunundrum sort of thing... I don't get why everyone is getting all mob mentality frenzied antagonistic here when they should be dancing a jig.

Nathan comes off like someone I would want to do business with - especially in light of the fact that he is taking all this abuse, which he is handling professionally and standing accountable, and noting the fact that he has only given positive statements of how Brazzers will move forward. Take it or leave it but at least give the new ownership time to prove themselves.

Go ahead and feel free to bag on us - no need to bring it all down on Nathan. We have survived and thrived through so many of these "sky is falling" scenarios it won't make a difference.

You have no clue.. go ahead and do business with them.. PLEASE!!!

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx

you looks a bit stupid now, sorry bro. the guys who posted your stuff were actually regular surfers uploading your content 24/7

everybody knows, that all that stolen content was uploaded by themselves, since submisson forms were actually closed

Yeah, I am stupid. That is pretty common knowledge... just like there is no money in porn.

btw... if you don't mind my asking... how much are you making on your Brazzers traffic these days?

Robbie · 07-16-2010, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get.

Far-L, I've already seen that traffic they have in action. It was pathetic. Millions of views on my vids, but when I look at pornhubs affiliate account I see very little ctr and a HANDFUL of signups.

That tube traffic is worthless to sell a paysite membership. Now if you want to go and offer free trials on it and hope to get a percentage of people to forget to cancel you could make a few fast bucks. But full join "honest" signups? I didn't see it.

Common sense tells you that when you are on a site with full scenes, you aren't gonna suddenly go buy a membership from some other site.

I knew it in the beginning...just using your brain tells you that. But I listened to some of the clowns on GFY who told me I didn't know what I was doing. And I found out for myself.

Just sayin', that traffic has about the same productivity as the cheapest pop up traffic you could ever buy.

Otherwise we would all be shouting Hallelujah and praising Brazzers to the skies for all that great converting traffic that all of us who have ALREADY tested it with them as our affiliate have gotten.

Guess what? That hasn't happened. Now use some common sense and stop thinking this is some kind of joyous occasion. When sites like PornHub are closed down and full scenes are no longer available for free combined with full members areas ripped on rapidshare....THEN we will start making real money again.

This Nathan guy isn't gonna close down pornhub. And surfers will RUN from it the minute he stops posting full scenes. It's ridiculous.

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed

If you lie down with dogs, you will get up with fleas

Steve, I respect what you have done in the industry, and I am not going to be insulted by your statement. You and I both know that we have a long history of taking on some really big dogs with some really big fat freaking fleas and putting them down like the dirty, mangy, mongrels that they truly are. In fact, you and I have been on the same side of many a fight for this industry over the years.

Until I have an experience with these guys to the contrary, I can only say how our relationship has gone. It is not lies. It is not bros. I have never even met Nathan or anyone else at Brazzers, past or present ownership. I am just not one to fall into the same track that everyone else is on.

We go our way. Our decision might be unpopular but we are basing our experience on our history and not on a bunch of disgruntled webmasters looking for someone to blame for their own inadequecies.

Don Pueblo · 07-16-2010, 05:19 PM

As I said before

This happened 3 months ago. People are slow.

I've translated all the bullshit press release talk for free:
WinBoomWoW said in their release:

"Wow we really fucked this industry. Can you all please help us make people join paysites again. We're so fucked that we can't sell our ad inventory on Traffic Junkys to anyone except scammy nutrceutical companies and penis pill ripoff sites. Oh, and dating sites like Fuckbook, but let's face it, that shit is so played out the margins are diving. Pretty soon we're gonna have to resort to installing scumware. When none of the shady companies can get bank accounts anymore, we're totally fucked with this bandwidth bill each month. Not to mention that most of these tube sites all have the same content and our bookmarkers are getting really pissed and starting to leave us. Please, please, for the love of God, can you dumb ass studio owners who don't know what we're really up to please start uploading your own shit so we don't have to do it anymore. Lately, we're so overrun by DMCA notices that we can't afford to invest time in uploading all that shit, and pay the people to answer the DMCAs. If you do it, you'll save us two processes. We're really sorry."

Bruzzzers

fris · 07-16-2010, 05:26 PM

so basically you can take videos from fuckyoucash and used them to promote brazzers, and until you get caught streaming the videos from one of our staff members you can continue to profit off content you have no rights too.

nice.

teomaxxx · 07-16-2010, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Yeah, I am stupid. That is pretty common knowledge... just like there is no money in porn.

btw... if you don't mind my asking... how much are you making on your Brazzers traffic these days?

well, since you didnt get my previous post at all, the reality is, submission forms were closed for the public. so while you are pretending, (probably only to lick the ass of higher positioned bro), that you dont know who uploaded your content 24/7 in this game i have to tell you once again;THE FORMS WERE CLOSED. otherwise everyone and their gradmamma would spam it all the way....pornhub knew it, us spammers know it, everybody knew it. so those fucking user uploders somehow managed to upload your movies 24/7 anyway

yet, there is some high positioned guy, who pretend to not know it at all. well as i told you in my previous post, take your stupid lies somewhere else. and i still have respect for you.
that was the whole story of my post, in case you didnt get it.

to the question about big cock game, i managed to earn with brazzers around 150-200k since their beggining and i am sure its at lot less then your company did in the meantime, but at least i was lucky to move to more green pastures nowadays....

pornstar2fag · 07-16-2010, 05:40 PM

damn, sam jain is a bad man. it looks like he has scammed millions in ransomware. innovative marketing is all over the internet. so if he is partners with the others and daniel then brazzers was bought by ransomware money. wow thats nuts. i read there are 6 partners.

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by pornstar2fag

damn, sam jain is a bad man. it looks like he has scammed millions in ransomware. innovative marketing is all over the internet. so if he is partners with the others and daniel then brazzers was bought by ransomware money. wow thats nuts. i read there are 6 partners.

I see someone else has done their homework as well.. and not regarding tubes or traffic

Robbie · 07-16-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LickMyBalls

I see someone else has done their homework as well.. and not regarding tubes or traffic

Uh Oh. So this Nathan person is involved with folks that aren't "top notch" and all that?
Damn.

I was just trying to point out the pain that Pornhub caused for so many people and the countless good affiliates out there who lost all their traffic to it because nobody can compete with FREE full scenes.

But now the plot thickens.

Some of y'all (Far-L) might want to really re-think the back slapping and cozying up for traffic until after you make sure there isn't anything to all of this. Because if there is...some bad stuff could be coming down.

Agent 488 · 07-16-2010, 05:59 PM

this seems so very fitting.

Supz · 07-16-2010, 07:17 PM

It is funny that everyone who seems to be selling there product to them is standing up for them in this thread.

Every single person standing up for Nathan is first posting how they do biz with them, then defends him.

Just pointing out the obvious.

ladida · 07-16-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

Regarding envisionext, I do not know what virage owns, but Manwin definately does not own envisionext. We do work with Stan on certain subjects though, for example we use AdultCentro, so.. as a customer of his, I guess he would be biased... I've known Stan for a long time too, basically since the first days... Probably actually from Ynot's Parachat as jackie pointed out earlier

Should have just ignored that comment, cause before this, you've not lied in the thread, should have stuck with it

dig420 · 07-16-2010, 08:14 PM

unbelievable. I am stunned. Happy for you Fabian, hit me up on icq, I have to know all about this sequence of events.

L-Pink · 07-16-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan

If you do not know what Brazzers is, get educated ;)

I read the book ......

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L-Pink · 07-16-2010, 08:38 PM

This thread (and some of you) make me sick !!!!!!!!!

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dig420 · 07-16-2010, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Supz

It is funny that everyone who seems to be selling there product to them is standing up for them in this thread.

Every single person standing up for Nathan is first posting how they do biz with them, then defends him.

Just pointing out the obvious.

I don't do biz with him, but he used to work for me waaaaay back in the day. Nathan is good people. I swear, I think GFY is composed of about 90% anklebiters these days, and 10% people who actually do this for a living.

07-16-2010, 02:42 PM	#101
ThumbLord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Aruba Posts: 1,932	interesting thread, nice reading __________________ We Sell Domains \| ThumbLords \| ICQ 128106905 \| TubeLords \| Traffic Holder \| eRoken

07-16-2010, 02:46 PM	#102
slavdogg Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,570	Nathan, congrads and good luck !! Will we see newNATS anytime soon from you ? __________________ Adult Traffic for Sale

07-16-2010, 03:18 PM	#106
spunky99 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,462	dmca's sent.. __________________ Spunky Cash - GND Bank - Good Girls Bank - Bliss Bucks - Nuts For Mobile - Daddy I Get Paid To Be A Whore Click Here To Make Money With Spunky - Domains For Sale - ICQ 281841678

07-16-2010, 03:31 PM	#109
SteveLightspeed Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lightspeedworld Posts: 7,940	"Now that we have made our millions by FUCKING THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY, we want to apologize and pretend we are going to stop acting like douchebags. We know you have no choice but to shake our hands at Internext. Yay us!" This industry celebrates the criminals and shits on everyone else. It deserves what it gets. My retirement announcement is imminent. Steve Lightspeed __________________ Abra-cadabra! Last edited by SteveLightspeed; 07-16-2010 at 03:36 PM..

07-16-2010, 03:36 PM	#112
Major (Tom) Anti Communist Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Null Posts: 29,769	Congrats old friend duke __________________ My mother said, to get things done You'd better not mess with Major Tom

07-16-2010, 03:22 PM	#108
epitome So Fucking Lame Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 12,158	Fabian, This is what people are looking for: I bought a really fucked up company that did a lot of fucked up shit to many people. I don't agree with a lot of the practices of the old owners and by x date you will see that I have turned a bad company into a good one. So good ol' mano-a-mano straight talk is what people want.

07-16-2010, 03:44 PM	#116
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	Vote NO on prop 19...........

07-16-2010, 03:52 PM	#118
beerptrol Confirmed Asshole Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Half way between sobriety and fubar. Posts: 12,722	Here's my official response __________________ “If we are to have another contest in the near future of our national existence, I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's but between patriotism and intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition and ignorance on the other.” -- Ulysses S. Grant

07-16-2010, 03:55 PM	#119
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	all i wanna know is... is your name nathan , fabien or kate ? __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

07-16-2010, 04:08 PM	#121
Loch Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 7,674	This thread is starting to tickle my pissy nerve. Its simply astounding to me that people cant look or at the very minimum TRY to look towards the future instead of always trying to place blame no matter what and bringing up the past which quite frankly have been nothing more than 3000 people bitching about the same thing over and over again without doing anything about it. If Mother Teresa (Passed i know) bought Brazzers + networks tomorrow you would all call her the devil as well. Most people have just found out about this ownership shift and yet the last 30 days people have already been talking about how "Some" tubes have been changing. Does that make the past right, no we all know that, but as we all know that why keep up the same rant? Give it time and watch the situation closely. Now go ahead and take a few jabs at me for posting this. But know that i have felt the same as you, but my business tactics conquered by not sulking and we are now twice the size.... __________________ Contact us for Beta store access (4000 HD/SD productions) - Editing - Encoding/Post production ICQ - 277 862 930 E-mail casper /@/ cool-content.com

07-16-2010, 04:17 PM	#122
colin farrell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 188	hey natahn, fuck you. lol. dance motherfucker. __________________ just passing by

07-16-2010, 04:37 PM	#128
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,075	I must be living in some sort of weird warped time space continuum cunundrum sort of thing... I don't get why everyone is getting all mob mentality frenzied antagonistic here when they should be dancing a jig. Nathan comes off like someone I would want to do business with - especially in light of the fact that he is taking all this abuse, which he is handling professionally and standing accountable, and noting the fact that he has only given positive statements of how Brazzers will move forward. Take it or leave it but at least give the new ownership time to prove themselves. Go ahead and feel free to bag on us - no need to bring it all down on Nathan. We have survived and thrived through so many of these "sky is falling" scenarios it won't make a difference. The thing I love about this thread is watching how many will squander any chance to work with a company that has the kind of traffic many would kill their grandma after she couldn't earn any more as a prostitute to get. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

07-16-2010, 04:44 PM	#130
StickyGreen . Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 13,076	This Nathan guy is the king of beating around the bush. All his posts have a lot of words in them but he is never really saying shit.

07-16-2010, 04:47 PM	#131
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	what else does Virage Media run?

07-16-2010, 05:19 PM	#138
Don Pueblo Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 656	As I said before This happened 3 months ago. People are slow. I've translated all the bullshit press release talk for free: WinBoomWoW said in their release: "Wow we really fucked this industry. Can you all please help us make people join paysites again. We're so fucked that we can't sell our ad inventory on Traffic Junkys to anyone except scammy nutrceutical companies and penis pill ripoff sites. Oh, and dating sites like Fuckbook, but let's face it, that shit is so played out the margins are diving. Pretty soon we're gonna have to resort to installing scumware. When none of the shady companies can get bank accounts anymore, we're totally fucked with this bandwidth bill each month. Not to mention that most of these tube sites all have the same content and our bookmarkers are getting really pissed and starting to leave us. Please, please, for the love of God, can you dumb ass studio owners who don't know what we're really up to please start uploading your own shit so we don't have to do it anymore. Lately, we're so overrun by DMCA notices that we can't afford to invest time in uploading all that shit, and pay the people to answer the DMCAs. If you do it, you'll save us two processes. We're really sorry." Bruzzzers __________________ Don Pueblo Worlds Best Latin Lover

07-16-2010, 05:26 PM	#139
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,262	so basically you can take videos from fuckyoucash and used them to promote brazzers, and until you get caught streaming the videos from one of our staff members you can continue to profit off content you have no rights too. nice. __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

07-16-2010, 05:40 PM	#141
pornstar2fag So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 544	damn, sam jain is a bad man. it looks like he has scammed millions in ransomware. innovative marketing is all over the internet. so if he is partners with the others and daniel then brazzers was bought by ransomware money. wow thats nuts. i read there are 6 partners.

07-16-2010, 05:59 PM	#144
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	this seems so very fitting.

07-16-2010, 07:17 PM	#145
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	It is funny that everyone who seems to be selling there product to them is standing up for them in this thread. Every single person standing up for Nathan is first posting how they do biz with them, then defends him. Just pointing out the obvious.

07-16-2010, 08:14 PM	#147
dig420 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 9,240	unbelievable. I am stunned. Happy for you Fabian, hit me up on icq, I have to know all about this sequence of events.

07-16-2010, 08:38 PM	#149
L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	This thread (and some of you) make me sick !!!!!!!!! .