Manwin Official Statement re acquisition of Brazzers - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 11:24 AM

This is very innovative marketing

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-16-2010, 11:29 AM

Manwin = Virage = XTube

I guess that's why Fabian/Nathan hasn't answered the question posed earlier in this thread about rampant piracy.

I heard about Virage buying Mansef (Brazzers, etc) back in March.

This just gets curiouser and curiouser...

ADG

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 11:32 AM

Can someone help me get rid of this damn WinFixer shit? It's really pissing me off.

colin farrell · 07-16-2010, 11:40 AM

virage owns envisionext too. fyi.
so standaman comments are biased.
you guys shouldn't be so quick to suck this guys dick.
be careful his cock might be dirty.
i don't trust anyone in this biz.

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Are you going to continue existing relationships?

Yes, no reason not to right now. I might actually be interested in doing quite a bit more with Homegrown, are you going to be in Miami?

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin farrell

virage owns envisionext too. fyi.
so standaman comments are biased.
you guys shouldn't be so quick to suck this guys dick.
be careful his cock might be dirty.
i don't trust anyone in this biz.

I actually do not like guys sucking my dick to be honest... so thanks for trying to get people to stop doing so for me ;)

Regarding envisionext, I do not know what virage owns, but Manwin definately does not own envisionext. We do work with Stan on certain subjects though, for example we use AdultCentro, so.. as a customer of his, I guess he would be biased... I've known Stan for a long time too, basically since the first days... Probably actually from Ynot's Parachat as jackie pointed out earlier

$tandaman · 07-16-2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin farrell

virage owns envisionext too. fyi.
so standaman comments are biased.
you guys shouldn't be so quick to suck this guys dick.
be careful his cock might be dirty.
i don't trust anyone in this biz.

You are wrong, Envisionext is a stand alone company. And i haven't made any comments in this thread, but thank you for the free advertising

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by $tandaman

You are wrong, Envisionext is a stand alone company. And i haven't made any comments in this thread, but thank you for the free advertising

Weren't you the same guys approaching VCX recently about licensing and were turned away? Then you decided to use content anyways?

GTS Mark · 07-16-2010, 11:58 AM

Congrats on your acquisition!

crazytrini85 · 07-16-2010, 12:04 PM

Will you be continuing on with your content theft internet domination plans, or will you be bringing that to a halt? Your company is among the worst thieves in the world and everyone knows it.

If you do continue with this method of doing business, it speaks VOLUMES of your character and business practices and makes me question every company you have ever worked at or started. Those who are dirty, usually always have been and always will be.

The world awaits your response as to how you will deal with content theft from this day forward. You can either continue being cock suckers or you can turn that ship around and come out a hero.

$tandaman · 07-16-2010, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls

Weren't you the same guys approaching VCX recently about licensing and were turned away? Then you decided to use content anyways?

We approach plenty of studios and content owners, and we work with many already. Don't see how it's related to this thread, but all our content is licensed revshare based with content owners.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 07-16-2010, 12:05 PM

Did Mansef ever resolve their multi-million dollar money-laundering case that was reported about HERE?

Another interesting read: Connecting the Dots

ADG

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Will you be continuing on with your content theft internet domination plans, or will you be bringing that to a halt? Your company is among the worst thieves in the world and everyone knows it.

If you do continue with this method of doing business, it speaks VOLUMES of your character and business practices and makes me question every company you have ever worked at or started. Those who are dirty, usually always have been and always will be.

The world awaits your response as to how you will deal with content theft from this day forward. You can either continue being cock suckers or you can turn that ship around and come out a hero.

Let's just hope he does go to Miami

Niktamer · 07-16-2010, 12:11 PM

Congrats to Nathan and all your team(s).

you acquired some of the best assets in adults and an on top of it, an awesome team.. on so many levels.

I hope to meet you by the end of the year.

will you be in Amsterdam ? I'm gonna meet Max over there.

J. Falcon · 07-16-2010, 12:15 PM

Congrats on the acquisition.

wargames · 07-16-2010, 12:19 PM

For all the QQ in this thread read below

In a statement, Manwin said that the company's new tube site initiative will be "conducted with the belief that there is a place for tube sites in our industry and a way to utilize them to serve Manwin?s business interests, as well as those of its partners."

"Other tube site owners are encouraged to do the same to aid the adult industry, instead of simply aiming to make content freely available to all," the company said.

We have been submitting to porn hub and there other tubes for months now.

Thanks for the traffic and sales

Nautilus · 07-16-2010, 12:28 PM

Are you going to stop stealing our shit at now your tube sites?

fris · 07-16-2010, 12:30 PM

ill belive it when i see it, just like when brazzers said tube model wasnt in their business model.

bobby666 · 07-16-2010, 12:36 PM

i didn't have to acquire brazzers
i have all their content for free from sexyshare dot net

StickyGreen · 07-16-2010, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choker

Funny how oldtimers bitch about pornhub and brazzers domination of the market. Not a single oldtimer would be bitching if they were the one that had come up with the ideas and implemented them themselves.

Musicians and filmmakers bitch about their music and films being stolen, why shouldn't porn producers do the same?

crazytrini85 · 07-16-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LickMyBalls

Let's just hope he does go to Miami

No one will say or do anything to him even if he came here and admitting that he was going to steal everyones videos and fuck them out of 1000s of dollars.

Internet geeks are the biggest pussies in the WORLD.

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Yes, no reason not to right now. I might actually be interested in doing quite a bit more with Homegrown, are you going to be in Miami?

Not in Miami, but certainly thinking right along the exact same lines.

JD · 07-16-2010, 12:41 PM

vagina..

BAKO · 07-16-2010, 12:42 PM

Congrats

grumpy · 07-16-2010, 12:43 PM

whats your stand on tubes???

StickyGreen · 07-16-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by grumpy

whats your stand on tubes???

lol, what do you think their stand is?

They are "user submitted" so they are not responsible.

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 12:57 PM

Even with the previous owners we didn't have a problem getting any unauthorized material taken down. All it ever took was an email. I have had problems with others but not with Brazzers.

Loch · 07-16-2010, 01:00 PM

Better late than never on the announcement Fanian

I believe you have a pack arriving from our team next week.

Lets stay in touch, we have only scratched the surface as of yet.

crazytrini85 · 07-16-2010, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Even with the previous owners we didn't have a problem getting any unauthorized material taken down. All it ever took was an email. I have had problems with others but not with Brazzers.

The fact that you had to ask them to remove it should be enough of a reason to have a problem with them. This is how accustomed we have all become to piracy. As long as they take it down when we ask, it's no big deal.

I know you're extremely old school and respected and all, but that is a pathetic stance to take.

None of what they stole was user submitted.

StickyGreen · 07-16-2010, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

The fact that you had to ask them to remove it should be enough of a reason to have a problem with them. This is how accustomed we have all become to piracy. As long as they take it down when we ask, it's no big deal.

I know you're extremely old school and respected and all, but that is a pathetic stance to take.

None of what they stole was user submitted.

lol seriously, like hollywood film companies are supposed to go around to every torrent site asking them to remove their movies.

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Will you be continuing on with your content theft internet domination plans, or will you be bringing that to a halt? Your company is among the worst thieves in the world and everyone knows it.

If you do continue with this method of doing business, it speaks VOLUMES of your character and business practices and makes me question every company you have ever worked at or started. Those who are dirty, usually always have been and always will be.

The world awaits your response as to how you will deal with content theft from this day forward. You can either continue being cock suckers or you can turn that ship around and come out a hero.

We definitely do not take part in any illegal activity. We would not be able to grow the way we have if we did. And if "everyone knew it", as you imply, no one would want to do business with us.

The way we?ve done business is through legitimate ventures, collaborations and purchases.

Regarding content theft, we are doing our part with the Paid Partner Content Program ? where we direct traffic back to its original source. The Program is one of multiple initiatives we have started since we acquired the assets and is absolutely free to sign up and greatly benefits content owners. As for contested videos, all you have to do is alert the site to get it taken down ? no questions asked.

In this day and age, no one survives without transparency ? so that?s how we do business.

PS.: Sorry for the late reply btw, but I had to bring my daughter to bed.

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Not in Miami, but certainly thinking right along the exact same lines.

We should try to meet up, you are located in LA, right? Would appreciate it if you could eMail me your contact info...

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

The fact that you had to ask them to remove it should be enough of a reason to have a problem with them. This is how accustomed we have all become to piracy. As long as they take it down when we ask, it's no big deal.

I know you're extremely old school and respected and all, but that is a pathetic stance to take.

None of what they stole was user submitted.

Your remarks in this thread were actually not half bad until now... This last line just completely disqualifies you (even with the fact that your wording actually makes your statement true, but obviously thats not what you were trying to say).

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

The fact that you had to ask them to remove it should be enough of a reason to have a problem with them. This is how accustomed we have all become to piracy. As long as they take it down when we ask, it's no big deal.

I know you're extremely old school and respected and all, but that is a pathetic stance to take.

None of what they stole was user submitted.

Well, I guess that in some small way makes us equal because I see your "fuck all I don't care how I make my money" pathetic.

Piracy was here long before net days for us. We are no strangers to it. In this case we are able to turn a negative into a positive and profit from it in a mutually agreeable fashion, and in a way that was never possible when Times Square pirates would take every release and ruin sales in the Northeast for everyone.

What is pathetic about that?

Now I don't know who posted our stuff without persmission and the fact that I don't care is not necessarily pathetic either. It is more pragmatic than anything else. We were able to get what we wanted accomplished partly because we took that approach, the professional and pragmatic, rather than the "fuck you" approach, which again, is what I find pathetic about the way most people deal with the issue... not saying you specifically necessarily because I don't even know what you do or don't do to tell you the truth.

JFK · 07-16-2010, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls

This is very innovative marketing

Thanks, check my sig

Far-L · 07-16-2010, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazytrini85

The fact that you had to ask them to remove it should be enough of a reason to have a problem with them. This is how accustomed we have all become to piracy. As long as they take it down when we ask, it's no big deal.

I know you're extremely old school and respected and all, but that is a pathetic stance to take.

None of what they stole was user submitted.

hold on... just realized something... you are the one that posted you didn't care how a customer or content producer was screwed over, i.e., hidden cross sells and stolen unlicensed content, as long as you got paid.

So, we may both be pathetic but you are actually a hippocrate too.

mikke · 07-16-2010, 01:40 PM

Fabian, what about piracy - tubes.. can you give some words about it?

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikke

Fabian, what about piracy - tubes.. can you give some words about it?

See post #83, that more or less says it all I think. Once more initiatives become ready for full release I am sure you will see press releases on them.

datatank · 07-16-2010, 01:56 PM

How much?

Klen · 07-16-2010, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

hold on... just realized something... you are the one that posted you didn't care how a customer or content producer was screwed over, i.e., hidden cross sells and stolen unlicensed content, as long as you got paid.

So, we may both be pathetic but you are actually a hippocrate too.

Maybe they should pay him to shut up

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 02:04 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Samjain_warrant.png

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 02:11 PM

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

lol, what do you think their stand is?

They are "user submitted" so they are not responsible.

User-submitted in their own fucking member's area as well. Scumbags.

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 02:27 PM

LickMyBalls, not sure why you just posted that warrent, there is no sam jain I know of in Manwin, so what are you trying to imply?

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

LickMyBalls, not sure why you just posted that warrent, there is no sam jain I know of in Manwin, so what are you trying to imply?

Think we're all that fucking stupid? Some people know more than you think here mother fucker.

Nathan · 07-16-2010, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LickMyBalls

Think we're all that fucking stupid? Some people know more than you think here mother fucker.

Not really implying you or anyone else is stupid, I seem to be though, since I have no idea what you are talking about...

I usually do not reply to weird posts, but it got a bit too weird there... I'll stick to replying to people that do not call me "mother fucker" again now though...

Brujah · 07-16-2010, 02:34 PM

Will more NATS rumors swirl around now?

LickMyBalls · 07-16-2010, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Not really implying you or anyone else is stupid, I seem to be though, since I have no idea what you are talking about...

I usually do not reply to weird posts, but it got a bit too weird there... I'll stick to replying to people that do not call me "mother fucker" again now though...

I could care less asshole. I know you're pissing in your German pants right now though no matter what you post here.... and for good reason. That's satisfaction enough for me.

fris · 07-16-2010, 02:38 PM

if you look deep enough you will find your real answer that fabian is rumored to be hiding

Robbie · 07-16-2010, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Not really implying you or anyone else is stupid, I seem to be though, since I have no idea what you are talking about...

I usually do not reply to weird posts, but it got a bit too weird there... I'll stick to replying to people that do not call me "mother fucker" again now though...

Hey bro, did you somehow miss what happened to the entire porn industry over the last 3 years? Jesus man. I know you're trying to do a bit of cleanup on the bad reputation.

But don't you think just saying: "Hey, we know a lot of you had your shit stolen by Pornhub over the years and we won't do that anymore" would be a lot better than the "play dumb" act you're doing?

Come on man. There are a lot of angry people who have every right to be mad at you. I'm not one, because I was always too smart and too fast for Pornhub to affect my sales. heh-heh

But hundreds of producers and paysites were screwed hard by Pornhub posting their FULL scenes and even going out of their way to stretch the vids to move the watermarks offscreen.

You and everybody else knows that is how pornhub built up a damn monster traffic site. If I were in here doing damage control, I believe I'd talk straight to these folks and try to generate some good will instead of acting like you don't know anything about anything.

07-16-2010, 11:29 AM	#52
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07-16-2010, 11:40 AM	#54
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