Which car should I buy? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

matuloo · 07-24-2010, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Gropius

Spot on - I've actually just been looking at some 350Zs online today, I'm surprised I hadn't already been looking at them because they're cheap to buy (as low as 12k) and seem to be great cars! Absolute bastard to run though - mainly due to MPG being about 20

Hm, I dont know but with a sports car you got to count on a bit higher consumption. I just looked up some consumption test, the guy tried about 50km route several times, always with different style of driving and ended up with consumption between 10-16 liters per 100 km, I am not good with galons so convert it yourself. The car has over 300HP so being able to drive with it at 10 liters per 100km sounds like a miracle. Of course it goes up in a city or when you slam the gas pedal a bit more, but thats completely normal. If its really able to hold it about 12 L per 100km I think its a really great value for such a car.

But then again, you have to think about the car, is it even right for you? It has plenty of HP and the power goes on the rear wheels, can you control that? Its pretty easy to run into problems when you "give gas" in a curve, these rear powered cars tend to spin if you dont know what you are doing.

buyandsell · 07-24-2010, 04:04 PM

the G35 is pretty nice if you want 4 seats or the last generation M3

stay away from SLK, TT, Z4 unless you are a hairdresser

Cash4Me · 07-25-2010, 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4Me

I just love it.
I try to post a picture tomorrow.

danevans · 07-25-2010, 06:14 AM

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...rs?logcode=flp
there.

better looking than TT, rear seat that you can actually use and an ok mpg

or an older model but quattro
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi.../100?logcode=p

Walter Gropius · 07-25-2010, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matuloo

Hm, I dont know but with a sports car you got to count on a bit higher consumption. I just looked up some consumption test, the guy tried about 50km route several times, always with different style of driving and ended up with consumption between 10-16 liters per 100 km, I am not good with galons so convert it yourself. The car has over 300HP so being able to drive with it at 10 liters per 100km sounds like a miracle. Of course it goes up in a city or when you slam the gas pedal a bit more, but thats completely normal. If its really able to hold it about 12 L per 100km I think its a really great value for such a car.

But then again, you have to think about the car, is it even right for you? It has plenty of HP and the power goes on the rear wheels, can you control that? Its pretty easy to run into problems when you "give gas" in a curve, these rear powered cars tend to spin if you dont know what you are doing.

Interesting point re: consumption. The main reason I mentioned the 350Z's consumption is because it's so much worse than that of the Z4, TT or SLK. Could amount to a significant amount of expenditure year by year, thus offsetting against the saving I would make by paying less to purchase it.

Also interesting about rear wheel drives - I've only ever driven shitty little cars. I'm an alright driver but not a great one. There's only one way to find out whether I can handle it - guess I'll just have to go for a few test drives!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cash4Me

She's a beauty! One of the ones I've been looking at is actually very similar looking - same wheels and body colour, although I'm looking at coupes rather than roadsters.

ottopottomouse · 07-25-2010, 08:55 AM

Don't get a grey or silver sportscar you'll be forever finding that people pull out in front of you or try to accidentally kill you just because you were invisible in the 95% of the year when its not bright sunshine here.

matuloo · 07-25-2010, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Gropius

Interesting point re: consumption. The main reason I mentioned the 350Z's consumption is because it's so much worse than that of the Z4, TT or SLK. Could amount to a significant amount of expenditure year by year, thus offsetting against the saving I would make by paying less to purchase it.

Also interesting about rear wheel drives - I've only ever driven shitty little cars. I'm an alright driver but not a great one. There's only one way to find out whether I can handle it - guess I'll just have to go for a few test drives!

She's a beauty! One of the ones I've been looking at is actually very similar looking - same wheels and body colour, although I'm looking at coupes rather than roadsters.

Excuse me but this is BS, if youre buying a sports car, 2 or 3 liters per 100km dont mean shit. With a car like that youre not gonna make 100 000 km for year so it really means shit. I can understand if you choose a diesel when buying a family car where you plan to cross europed back and forth, but with an image thing ... give or take a few liters per 100km or a few hundreds EUR per year ... thats not really anything you should take care about.

Walter Gropius · 07-25-2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matuloo

Excuse me but this is BS, if youre buying a sports car, 2 or 3 liters per 100km dont mean shit. With a car like that youre not gonna make 100 000 km for year so it really means shit. I can understand if you choose a diesel when buying a family car where you plan to cross europed back and forth, but with an image thing ... give or take a few liters per 100km or a few hundreds EUR per year ... thats not really anything you should take care about.

Glad you mentioned that - cheers! I worked out roughly how many miles I'll do per year and then worked out what each car I'm looking at would cost in fuel per year. The difference is basically fuck all between most cars, BUT the difference with the 350 IS quite a lot - it's basically double most of the other cars. If I only do 1,000 miles a year, it's something like £300 compared to £150 for most other cars, so about £150 difference, which isn't exactly going to break the bank. But then if I up my mileage to 3,000 a year, it's about £500 more per year than most other cars. That's still not going to bankrupt me but, year on year, it does start to add up a bit. You make a good point in general though - the difference in fuel cost per year between a Z4 and an A3, for example, is fuck all!

matuloo · 07-26-2010, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Gropius

Glad you mentioned that - cheers! I worked out roughly how many miles I'll do per year and then worked out what each car I'm looking at would cost in fuel per year. The difference is basically fuck all between most cars, BUT the difference with the 350 IS quite a lot - it's basically double most of the other cars. If I only do 1,000 miles a year, it's something like £300 compared to £150 for most other cars, so about £150 difference, which isn't exactly going to break the bank. But then if I up my mileage to 3,000 a year, it's about £500 more per year than most other cars. That's still not going to bankrupt me but, year on year, it does start to add up a bit. You make a good point in general though - the difference in fuel cost per year between a Z4 and an A3, for example, is fuck all!

Hm, dont know how you came to this calculation

Lets assume the 350Z will consume about 4 liters per 100km more than the Z4, unless you are taking some TDI engine, but still less than 8 liters per 100km is not really doable on a car like that. I would say the 4 liter per 100km difference is quite real.

So thats 100*10=1000km, so 10*4 extra comes to 40L extra which is less than 50EUR where I live. On 10 000 km the difference would be like 500 EUR. 10 000 km per year should be more than enough for a car like this, I doubt you would be driving more, probably less when you mentioned 1000-3000 miles per year. So in your case you could be looking at about 250 eur extra per year ... thats nothing, especially in case yuo can get a 350Z for a lower price than the BMW or Audi.

james_clickmemedia · 07-26-2010, 05:41 AM

I would choose a Porsche Boxter S over a BMW z4. Test both of them and you will see why I say this.

If I wanted sporty with a bit more practicality I would choose a bmw 335I or 325I.
The 335I is a fast car with a 3.0 twin turbo charged engine, about a quick in a straight line as a z4.

I have never driven one however the Infiniti G37 is a popular option over here. Based on the Nissan 350Z but with more luxury.

TheDoc · 07-26-2010, 06:00 AM

Get a Nissian, the higher end ones look sharp and flat out have great power. They last forever too and they don't hardly ever give you issues, one of the best made cars in the world right now in my opinion.

ottopottomouse · 07-26-2010, 06:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Gropius

If I only do 1,000 miles a year, it's something like £300 compared to £150 for most other cars, so about £150 difference, which isn't exactly going to break the bank. But then if I up my mileage to 3,000 a year, it's about £500 more per year than most other cars.

If you're only going to do a tiny mileage I would have thought hiring a fancy car a few times a year makes more sense compared to the bills you are going to have to pay on a car that just sits around.

Raf1 · 07-26-2010, 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Why not buy a Corvette?

If you want ROI on your second car, hunt up a Dodge Viper, which will continue to increase in value as you dirve it. In the price range which you are discussing, there are Mustangs which fit in nicely and will flatten out your seat when you accelerate.

Sally.

not a very good option for someone based in Europe.

Ross · 07-26-2010, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walter Gropius

Hadn't heard of that - checking it out now. I'm in the UK so might not be the easiest car to get hold of! Looks nice though... mmmmm

Thanks for the great advice! As I'm in the UK I don't know what the Corvette / Dodge Viper / Mustang situation is but I'm gonna take a look in a sec. The Z4 probably isn't the best value but I'm leaning towards that if it's between that and the TT/SLK.

I've drove all the cars you are thinking of and I personally owned a BMW Z4 (I'll attach a pic) and I loved that car. Everything about it was brilliant, fuel consumption is real good too compared to my car before it. Make sure you get the proper model tho, some models have problems. I had the 2.0L Sport Roadster, the best one to have. I bought mine early 2008 and had to sell it last summer since I moved country. If I didn't have to move, Id still have it now, I would also buy the new one as that is outstanding too.

So you know, my best friend has an Audi TT and I've driven it a lot, it doesnt even compare to my Z4, he admitted that himself as well. I also drove the SLK and liked it however at 6' 1" tall I felt uncomfortable in it for every day driving.
Here is the one I had.

SallyRand · 07-26-2010, 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raf1

not a very good option for someone based in Europe.

Why not? Parts availability and service for GM products are ubiquitous world-wide.

Sally.

ottopottomouse · 07-26-2010, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Audi dealer service in my area sucks balls and parts are higher than a kite! I have owned Audis in the past; a couple of the five cylinder cars and had nothing but trouble with them, so I am perhaps more than a bit jaded.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SallyRand

Why not? Parts availability and service for GM products are ubiquitous world-wide.

First it's don't have an Audi because you didn't like your local dealer. Then it's why don't you buy a car that only comes in LHD with 0 dealers in the entire country. Genius.

chopstick · 07-26-2010, 10:56 AM

Anything that is AWD and has a Turbo is good in my books.

07-25-2010, 06:14 AM	#54
danevans Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 1,295	http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...rs?logcode=flp there. better looking than TT, rear seat that you can actually use and an ok mpg or an older model but quattro http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi.../100?logcode=p __________________ Custom adult games / apps for your paysites. webmaster at multimoodia.net icq35291012

07-25-2010, 08:55 AM	#56
ottopottomouse She is ugly, bad luck. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 13,177	Don't get a grey or silver sportscar you'll be forever finding that people pull out in front of you or try to accidentally kill you just because you were invisible in the 95% of the year when its not bright sunshine here. __________________ ↑ see post ↑ 13101

07-26-2010, 05:41 AM	#60
james_clickmemedia Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Texas / London Posts: 2,204	I would choose a Porsche Boxter S over a BMW z4. Test both of them and you will see why I say this. If I wanted sporty with a bit more practicality I would choose a bmw 335I or 325I. The 335I is a fast car with a 3.0 twin turbo charged engine, about a quick in a straight line as a z4. I have never driven one however the Infiniti G37 is a popular option over here. Based on the Nissan 350Z but with more luxury. __________________ $ CLICKMEMEDIA.COM $ CONVERTING ETHNIC TRAFFIC SINCE 1998 ~ $30+PPS BLACK-X.COM - NEW BLACK EX-GF SITE CLICKMEMEDIA.COM ~ ICQ - 8788771 Last edited by james_clickmemedia; 07-26-2010 at 05:43 AM..

07-26-2010, 06:00 AM	#61
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Get a Nissian, the higher end ones look sharp and flat out have great power. They last forever too and they don't hardly ever give you issues, one of the best made cars in the world right now in my opinion. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

07-24-2010, 04:04 PM	#52
buyandsell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: USA Posts: 692	the G35 is pretty nice if you want 4 seats or the last generation M3 stay away from SLK, TT, Z4 unless you are a hairdresser

07-26-2010, 10:56 AM	#67
chopstick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 188	Anything that is AWD and has a Turbo is good in my books.