Any CCBILL sponsors that DO NOT SELL their shit in members areas? - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

GotGauge · 07-25-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BV

That's why Chevrolet dealerships have Ford posters in their showrooms right?

No, BUT you can sell things that do no compete!

crazytrini85 · 07-25-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

I think people who upsell do so because they realise that their content alone cannot sustain the member long term and as the member will end up going somewhere else anyway, why not give him some ideas as to where to go, and get a share of his future purchases.

Many members join many sites. No one is going to go to one site, join and stay there forever. I'd rather try to get some $ by showing him some other sites than not getting any $ and letting someone else get it.

Porn consumers are hungry. They want more more more more and more. What gets them off today, may not get them off tomorrow or next week.

stocktrader23 · 07-25-2010, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Many members join many sites. No one is going to go to one site, join and stay there forever. I'd rather try to get some $ by showing him some other sites than not getting any $ and letting someone else get it.

Porn consumers are hungry. They want more more more more and more. What gets them off today, may not get them off tomorrow or next week.

So fix your damn site and make them want to stay. Do you even have a site?

crazytrini85 · 07-25-2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

So fix your damn site and make them want to stay. Do you even have a site?

You have no idea do you. I have over 100 sites. Been at this since 1996.

No one stays forever, dumb ass. Go surf somewhere else kid.

The Porn Nerd · 07-25-2010, 04:04 PM

There IS a way to upsell "organically" and with integrity, but it has to be done right. Problem is, as with most porn sites and site owners, they just do whatever they want and throw ugly-ass banners up, and animated GIFs flashing this or that "deal". It's fucking ridiculous. It's like walking into a Red Light District with tacky neon lights flashing. Puh-leeeeeeze!

If you're gonna upsell then take the time to make it look like a fucking "recommendation" from YOU, their porn buddy. Oh wait, right, that takes brains and sensitivity and giving a fuck. Never mind, carry on.

stocktrader23 · 07-25-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

You have no idea do you. I have over 100 sites. Been at this since 1996.

No one stays forever, dumb ass. Go surf somewhere else kid.

Why should I have an idea? One look in your members area and I would never promote you anyhow.

BlackCrayon · 07-25-2010, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by XXXMovie4M

try to find a dealership that doesn't try to up-sell the extended warranty, paint protection, service plans, and all kinds of other crap....

good luck with that analogy!

that is no comparison. they aren't going to drop the car and keep the add ons...

BlackCrayon · 07-25-2010, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Many members join many sites. No one is going to go to one site, join and stay there forever. I'd rather try to get some $ by showing him some other sites than not getting any $ and letting someone else get it.

Porn consumers are hungry. They want more more more more and more. What gets them off today, may not get them off tomorrow or next week.

80-90% of people will only have memberships to 1-2 sites at any given time.

Vjo · 07-25-2010, 04:15 PM

As a now certified affiliate,

stocktrader23 will be doing all my talking from here on. lol

He's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrre!

Come back to radio Artie Lange!

Good fun and interesting thread.

Elli · 07-25-2010, 04:46 PM

My Members Area is clean of upsells. Any other questions you just let me know!

DreamnetCash just launched its affiliate program a couple months ago. My own amateur site (Elli-Nude.com) is in there, if you'd care to promote a redheaded Canadian amateur solo chick like myself.

It's run through CCBill. If you're needing promo materials you don't see in there, just hit me up and I'll see what I can get for you.

Check out my Webmasters page for more info!

Find a list of all the sites in the DreamnetCash.com program here.

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XXXMovie4M · 07-25-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

This statement is so absurdly fucking stupid that nobody should ever do business with you. You have no concept of the argument at hand and your retarded attempt at proving a point has failed horribly.

i guess you didn't pick up on the sarcasm...moron

see what i mean? you prove my point, full of idiots...

XXXMovie4M · 07-25-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

that is no comparison. they aren't going to drop the car and keep the add ons...

so i guess the statement "That's why Chevrolet dealerships have Ford posters in their showrooms right?" is a good comparison to you?

it's ridiculous to think upsales in the member's area destroys rebills. do affiliates really think a member is going to say "oh my god, look at all these other porn sites that i can join...i never knew they existed!"

the bottom line is members are going to leave at some point or another. a site owner can only try to direct them to another site and hopefully make some money in the process.

where the fuck do affiliate get off telling site owners how to run their sites? affiliates can not exist without sponsors but sponsors have always and will always make money without affiliates.

so fuck off to all the cry baby affiliates because they aren't making the money they use to for doing dick all.

crazytrini85 · 07-26-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

One look in your members area and I would never promote you anyhow.

I doubt you have even have a credit card.

andrej_NDC · 07-26-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

80-90% of people will only have memberships to 1-2 sites at any given time.

And how many people do you think will upsell? Its not a gold mine. With 100 sales a day to the main site, not more than 5-10 upsells will come.

Wilsy · 07-26-2010, 01:44 AM

Surely if the sandwich shop who didn't sell drinks told their customer they could get a nice drink to wash it down with from another shop just down the street is no different to a program who doesn't offer cams themselves .... up-selling someone elses?
If you don't offer yourself what you are up-selling, surely its fine?
If everybody had truly unique products and helped each other out by sharing... would be a much more targeted and better world.

crazytrini85 · 07-26-2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by andrew.r

Surely if the sandwich shop who didn't sell drinks told their customer they could get a nice drink to wash it down with from another shop just down the street is no different to a program who doesn't offer cams themselves .... up-selling someone elses?
If you don't offer yourself what you are up-selling, surely its fine?
If everybody had truly unique products and helped each other out by sharing... would be a much more targeted and better world.

I only upsell to sites that are relevant to what I'm selling. If they join my big tit site, I only show cams or a banner or two to quality big tit sites. I don't blast them with penis enlargers and dumb spammy shit. It helps with the sale and more will buy if you offer what they are already looking for.

I've tested with and without upsells. Both models rebill the same.

CamJack · 07-26-2010, 07:34 AM

Check out our program. We have had members last for over 10 years.
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crazytrini85 · 07-26-2010, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by geoGUERILLA

Check out our program. We have had members last for over 10 years.

Please excuse my ignorance here, but isn't your site new?

Bryan G · 07-26-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crazytrini85

Please excuse my ignorance here, but isn't your site new?

The affiliate program is new, Naked News however has been around for 10 years.

Tiffany Preston · 07-26-2010, 11:37 AM

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Shap · 07-26-2010, 11:45 AM

If you don't upsell you are leaving big $$$$ on the table.

It's not about ripping people off. It's about running a business and maximizing your revenues. If you want to do business with companies that don't do that then go right ahead. Don't be surprised when they can't pay you.

We have clean high quality upsells in our members area. The reality is a very large portion of members join/spend at more than one site in a month. We find the best deals, products, services and offer them to them. It doesn't hurt their experience on Twistys and only adds to our bottomline.

That is why we offer 70% revshare instead of 50.

07-25-2010, 04:04 PM	#55
The Porn Nerd Living The Dream Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Inside a Monitor Posts: 19,496	There IS a way to upsell "organically" and with integrity, but it has to be done right. Problem is, as with most porn sites and site owners, they just do whatever they want and throw ugly-ass banners up, and animated GIFs flashing this or that "deal". It's fucking ridiculous. It's like walking into a Red Light District with tacky neon lights flashing. Puh-leeeeeeze! If you're gonna upsell then take the time to make it look like a fucking "recommendation" from YOU, their porn buddy. Oh wait, right, that takes brains and sensitivity and giving a fuck. Never mind, carry on. __________________ My Affiliate Programs: Porn Nerd Cash \| Porn Showcase \| Aggressive Gold Over 90 paysites to promote! Skype: peabodymedia Last edited by The Porn Nerd; 07-25-2010 at 04:05 PM..

07-25-2010, 04:15 PM	#59
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	As a now certified affiliate, stocktrader23 will be doing all my talking from here on. lol He's on fiiiiiiiiiiiiirrrrre! Come back to radio Artie Lange! Good fun and interesting thread. Last edited by Vjo; 07-25-2010 at 04:18 PM..

07-25-2010, 04:46 PM	#60
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	My Members Area is clean of upsells. Any other questions you just let me know! DreamnetCash just launched its affiliate program a couple months ago. My own amateur site (Elli-Nude.com) is in there, if you'd care to promote a redheaded Canadian amateur solo chick like myself. It's run through CCBill. If you're needing promo materials you don't see in there, just hit me up and I'll see what I can get for you. Check out my Webmasters page for more info! Find a list of all the sites in the DreamnetCash.com program here. Please don't hesitate to contact me with any questions! __________________ Make More Money with Cams and Dating at FFN.com! email: [email protected]

07-26-2010, 01:44 AM	#65
Wilsy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,865	Surely if the sandwich shop who didn't sell drinks told their customer they could get a nice drink to wash it down with from another shop just down the street is no different to a program who doesn't offer cams themselves .... up-selling someone elses? If you don't offer yourself what you are up-selling, surely its fine? If everybody had truly unique products and helped each other out by sharing... would be a much more targeted and better world. __________________ Affiliate Manager Last edited by Wilsy; 07-26-2010 at 01:47 AM..

07-26-2010, 07:34 AM	#67
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07-26-2010, 11:37 AM	#70
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07-26-2010, 11:45 AM	#71
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	If you don't upsell you are leaving big $$$$ on the table. It's not about ripping people off. It's about running a business and maximizing your revenues. If you want to do business with companies that don't do that then go right ahead. Don't be surprised when they can't pay you. We have clean high quality upsells in our members area. The reality is a very large portion of members join/spend at more than one site in a month. We find the best deals, products, services and offer them to them. It doesn't hurt their experience on Twistys and only adds to our bottomline. That is why we offer 70% revshare instead of 50.