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Old 08-01-2010, 08:29 AM   #51
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So who made the "materials" to make us, the universe etc etc?
Why do you need someone?
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Why do you need someone?
Or something...... what "thing", "idea", "equation" "undescribale", made us?
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Even if there is a god, why the christian or the muslim one?
And why all these rules?
From where they are coming from?
Only because you have to have SOMEONE who created the universe?
And who created him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur
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Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?
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God created the world: thou shalt burn the quran!

Sorry i don't see the point
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:35 AM   #56
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Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?
They are both infidels
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:37 AM   #57
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Even if there is a god, why the christian or the muslim one?
And why all these rules?
From where they are coming from?
Only because you have to have SOMEONE who created the universe?
And who created him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur
He was made of himself, he made himself
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:39 AM   #58
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Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?
There is no such thing as a muslim god or a christian god but only one God, the God of all gods! We just have a few religions that teach us how to get there but we ourselves have caused conflict and say no this way, no that way, instead of just getting on with whatever path you have picked
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Did he jerked off to create himself while he didn't exist?

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They are both infidels
It's all fairy stories anyway but-
  • Christian god gives ten commandments to Moses while he is off his tits up a mountain
  • Muslim god gives Mohammed a set of revelations while he is off his tits up a mountain
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Does he jerked off to create himself while he didn't exists?
Lol - I dunno, I guess you can ask him when your time is up, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock......
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Old 08-01-2010, 08:46 AM   #62
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Lol - I dunno, I guess you can ask him when your time is up, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock......
According to my spinning top i'm in a dream, see you later
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According to my spinning top i'm in a dream, see you later
Just smoke some pot, cause every little thing is gonna be aright.....

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God didn't create man.

Man created God.
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Weak argument.....

http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.p...ury_atrocities

Since atheism per se has no dogma, it is difficult to find a causal link between atheism and immoral behavior or the commission of atrocities. It is often much easier to find a cause rooted in some other belief held by the perpertrator. For example, the statement "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he was an atheist" is, on its face, a non sequitur. On the other hand, "Stalin ordered thousands of people executed because he thought they represented a threat to the establishment of communism", while irrational and abhorrent, at least enjoys a certain internal consistency.
Tons of Athiests are guilty of some obscene crimes against humanity. Does it mean all Athiests are evil psycopathic nutjobs ... no. Just because a SMALL fraction of religious people are murdering assholes doesn't mean all religious people are.

Your argument is gaping full of holes.

So since a few porn webmasters sell child porn that means we all do???!
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God didn't create man.

Man created God.
Then who/what created man?
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So this guy wants to add more fuel to an already crazy bunch of people, he should have more sense to use Christian values to bring about peace not start dissing religions and burning Qurans.... this guys seems very unintelligent!

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/07/29...id=T6hC27NlH6c
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Then who/what created man?
Evolution
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Then who/what created man?
Evolution made us what we are today. We were not created. There is tons of scientific evidence to back that up.

There is absolutely no evidence that we were blinked into existence 5,000 years ago as the bible tells it. Anyone who ignores fossil evidence that we did, in fact, evolve over millions of years is ignorant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hominina_fossils
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Aren't the Christian god and the Muslim god essentially the same thing?

Islam is based on an older form of Judaism than Christianity, and went down hill from there
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the weird old dude in phantasim
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Evolution made us what we are today. We were not created. There is tons of scientific evidence to back that up.

There is absolutely no evidence that we were blinked into existence 5,000 years ago as the bible tells it. Anyone who ignores fossil evidence that we did, in fact, evolve over millions of years is ignorant.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hominina_fossils
Yeah, but what my question is where did the material come from to create anything in the universe.... forget about who we were made, how did the material come into exitence to make us..... I am talking about energy, protons, nuetrons and electrons?
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Exactly. Religion is just one of a set of excuses used throughout history. Other excuses focus on ethnicity/culture, fake wars of "liberation", etc.
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Yeah, but what my question is where did the material come from to create anything in the universe.... forget about who we were made, how did the material come into exitence to make us..... I am talking about energy, protons, nuetrons and electrons?
I think it all came from a huge cosmic vending machine that takes waffles instead of coins.

The thing with believing in a "God" is that my asinine theory of where the building blocks came from is just as valid as yours.
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Man created God.
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Then who/what created man?
Once again if God created everything who/what created God? If you say god has just always existed so why can't the universe just always existed also?
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Once again if God created everything who/what created God? If you say god has just always existed so why can't the universe just always existed also?
Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....
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Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....
Nobody knows. You know that nobody knows. I'm curious how the religious jump to the conclusion that it was some kind of deity. Is there any evidence to make someone jump to that conclusion? Is it simple indoctrination or willful ignorance (aka faith).
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Yep. Both trace their "history" back to Abraham. That's when the split occured.
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Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....
Who knows, who cares, no one will ever know so why fucking worry about it? Doesn't mean make up "god" so you can have an answer. The fact is science could come up with the answers for everything and the religions of the world will dismiss it because it would put them out of business. I find ironic that people won't believe in science but will believe God made man out of some sand and woman out his rib and Noah built a huge boat that fit every fucking animal on the planet on it. By the way since the boat couldn't move until the floods came how did Noah get to Australia to save the kangaroos before the water killed them all?
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Okay lets say there is no such thing as God which makes things easier.... so what/who created the Universe? This universe could not have always exited becuase it had to be made from something....
Trying to get an answer for that question is like trying to get an exact answer for anything divided by zero... there simply is no answer, period.
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[QUOTE=Sausage;17379490] Just because a SMALL fraction of religious people are murdering assholes doesn't mean all religious people are.
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Um... better read up on some history...
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[QUOTE=**********;17380412][QUOTE=Sausage;17379490] Just because a SMALL fraction of religious people are murdering assholes doesn't mean all religious people are.
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Yes I think you should.
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