missing sales? i found them for you, your reps left them on the table

[Jerry's Intensity]

wondering why sales are down? maybe its your reps?

here is a convo i just had

me
hey namewithheld, when will i hear back from them? i bring 20-50 joins daily

him
sorry, i don't know, it's not my department


lol

this is after waiting over a day for a response to setting up traffic for them

no joke

[Horny Joe]

LOL... Seems this programs don't want the sales... for whatever reason. Let me start a thread "I can send you 5 sales a month" - and I am sure there will be 10-20 programs that will be "on me"....

[Loch]

And its getting worse sadly.

[Inter-Sex]

Originally Posted by Jerry's Intensity

sorry, i don't know, it's not my department

Sound like as he get a fixed salary

[Klen]

Sounds like you hit accounting rep instead affiliate manager.

[Paper_Amar]

Jerry,

I would love to chat with you. See if we can find your joins a room in our house. Hit me up! 447542128 icq

Amar

[aimeesweet]

Jerry,
Cold Hard Cash is ALWAYS looking for new affiliates... please feel free to contact me at anytime!

Thanks...

[pornguy]

Jerry. List us some contact info so we can get in touch.

ICQ me. 174228679

[Jack Sparrow]

Well i can tell you that more and more reps dont even reply. Im bring some people 10-30 sales daily and when i asked them something they reply a day later.

Some people dont understand, that money is being made every hour, and when i need something i need it now. By the time they say "hi did you need anything" i already filled up their spots.

[NaughtyRob]

That is crazy. I'd like to discuss what you can do for us!

[lesbodojo]

There are too many companies actively looking for traffic. If one isn't working hard for you, try another.

[Paul Markham]

Why don't you try contacting someone higher up the tree than a rep?

If you're bringing the site 20 joins a day =600 a month. You need to be talking to the organ grinder not the monkey. If the boss won't talk to you do your fellow webmasters a favor and name names.

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Horny Joe

LOL... Seems this programs don't want the sales... for whatever reason. Let me start a thread "I can send you 5 sales a month" - and I am sure there will be 10-20 programs that will be "on me"....

5 sales a month is not very many?

But obviously 5 extra for us. If you signed up to us, maybe we can provide the content & the websites to make you 5 sales a day...

[ArsewithClass]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Why don't you try contacting someone higher up the tree than a rep?

If you're bringing the site 20 joins a day =600 a month. You need to be talking to the organ grinder not the monkey. If the boss won't talk to you do your fellow webmasters a favor and name names.

Correct! Name & Shame.

None of my affiliate bring in 20 a day.... I would be sucking your arse!

[Roald]

Originally Posted by Jerry's Intensity

wondering why sales are down? maybe its your reps?

here is a convo i just had

me
hey namewithheld, when will i hear back from them? i bring 20-50 joins daily

him
sorry, i don't know, it's not my department


lol

this is after waiting over a day for a response to setting up traffic for them

no joke

Can´t blame the guy for being busy playing farmville on FB

[dirtybaker1331]

20-50 sales a day? Really??? To one program? I'd love to see that. Hit me up so we discuss ways to make that happen. If you aren't already an affiliate click the sig. Naughty America is going strong.

[magicmike]

www.nichewealth.com is still looking for sales on our hot updated sites. Hit me up and I can help you out.

[PR_Glen]

hit us up.. we aren't available on icq 24/7 here but damned if we would ignore something like that...

[TeenCat]

hit me up, i will send you some free porn galleries

[Pornopat]

Put me on the list of people that would love to talk to you.

[Trend]

It's interesting to see this thread because it seems to be happening on both sides. I just got off the phone with a program owner who is well respected and been around for a long time. He was telling me that it is nearly impossible lately to get affiliates to send traffic even when his new sites are converting at better than 1:300 in most cases.

He stated that they make announcements, advertise etc and no one signs up to promote. Now I cant send 20-60 sales a day ( wish I had that traffic ), but at 5-7 / day .. he gave me his cell phone... says a lot about the game today.

and Jerry. Sorry to hear that happened. That's shitty.

[Loch]

Originally Posted by Trend

It's interesting to see this thread because it seems to be happening on both sides. I just got off the phone with a program owner who is well respected and been around for a long time. He was telling me that it is nearly impossible lately to get affiliates to send traffic even when his new sites are converting at better than 1:300 in most cases.

He stated that they make announcements, advertise etc and no one signs up to promote. Now I cant send 20-60 sales a day ( wish I had that traffic ), but at 5-7 / day .. he gave me his cell phone... says a lot about the game today.

and Jerry. Sorry to hear that happened. That's shitty.

Its super easy to get people signed up, but affiliates just do not have any traffic anymore.
So getting the ones that can do more than 1 signup pr day consistantly is HARD

[pornstar2fag]

oh shut the fuck up.

[NickB.]

Originally Posted by Jerry's Intensity

wondering why sales are down? maybe its your reps?

here is a convo i just had

me
hey namewithheld, when will i hear back from them? i bring 20-50 joins daily

him
sorry, i don't know, it's not my department


lol

this is after waiting over a day for a response to setting up traffic for them

no joke

You send us joins like that...?
You will get my cell number...!
Call me 24/7 for whenever you need anything.....

[Corleone]

Originally Posted by NickB. - Triplexcash

You send us joins like that...?
You will get my cell number...!
Call me 24/7 for whenever you need anything.....

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Well i can tell you that more and more reps dont even reply. Im bring some people 10-30 sales daily and when i asked them something they reply a day later.

Some people dont understand, that money is being made every hour, and when i need something i need it now. By the time they say "hi did you need anything" i already filled up their spots.

I have already said stop talking to the monkey and talk to the organ grinder. In these days any affiliate bringing in 600 sign ups, proper memberships, will have a promoter falling over himself. If he doesn't move your traffic and see how long it is before you get a phone call.

I see these threads all the time and mostly the name of the rep or company are never mentioned. So it it BS or not?

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I have already said stop talking to the monkey and talk to the organ grinder. In these days any affiliate bringing in 600 sign ups, proper memberships, will have a promoter falling over himself. If he doesn't move your traffic and see how long it is before you get a phone call.

I see these threads all the time and mostly the name of the rep or company are never mentioned. So it it BS or not?

If you want i can show you a log from an icq i have to prove it if you think im bullshitting you including a screenshots of just one program i can send 20-40 sales to. In private, because i dont feel for openly "punishing" anyone.

Theres even people i send a couple hours of testtraffic too and they get 4-5 sales in these couple hours, and when i ask them to bump up the default and very shitty payout a bit higher that tell me to "send more and more and for a week or 3-4" and they will "see what they can do for me".

Again, if you think im full of it, i can show you in private.

[GetSCORECash]

Send the traffic to us www.getscorecash.com

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

If you want i can show you a log from an icq i have to prove it if you think im bullshitting you including a screenshots of just one program i can send 20-40 sales to. In private, because i dont feel for openly "punishing" anyone.

Theres even people i send a couple hours of test traffic too and they get 4-5 sales in these couple hours, and when i ask them to bump up the default and very shitty payout a bit higher that tell me to "send more and more and for a week or 3-4" and they will "see what they can do for me".

Again, if you think im full of it, i can show you in private.

As for keeping it private. That shows, what ever you're complaining about you're still sending those sponsors traffic and getting sign ups. So they can't be that bad. ;)

If you're not happy with a sponsor move your traffic.

As for not getting your rate bumped for sending a few hours of traffic, this I understand. Rates should vary and automatically go up according to the number of sign ups you got that month.

I've spoken to affiliates who promised me the earth, if I did this and paid that. I tried it and the traffic and sign ups were never as good as promised. But they never agree to going back to the normal rate. And if you tell them "You will go up to that rate if you send that many joins, it's built into the system, they rarely agree with that either.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

As for keeping it private. That shows, what ever you're complaining about you're still sending those sponsors traffic and getting sign ups. So they can't be that bad. ;)

If you're not happy with a sponsor move your traffic.

As for not getting your rate bumped for sending a few hours of traffic, this I understand. Rates should vary and automatically go up according to the number of sign ups you got that month.

I've spoken to affiliates who promised me the earth, if I did this and paid that. I tried it and the traffic and sign ups were never as good as promised. But they never agree to going back to the normal rate. And if you tell them "You will go up to that rate if you send that many joins, it's built into the system, they rarely agree with that either.

Actually those that I was talking about, im not sending them traffic anymore. And if im still sending them traffic it would be because im finding similar programs that convert equally and the minute i find them i switch their ads.

I do understand your point about the "few hours" example. But if i can send 10 sales in 5 hours, why would that change when i send longer/more. I really think in an economy where we live in right now, people should be happy to help eachother make money and charish (is that a word) those that are still able to send sales.

My point is i guess, biz is done fast. And if i have to wait 5-6 days to get a simple custom 300x250, im losing out.

And yes, theres still so many sponsors that dont even have the mostused bannersizes, its amazing

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Some people dont understand, that money is being made every hour, and when i need something i need it now. By the time they say "hi did you need anything" i already filled up their spots.

also for the ones that make you wait days/weeks to get your fucking account approved just to grab promo content and link codes. I understand some of them need to do this to minimize fraud but if I can't get my account approved within 24hrs then I've either forgotten what I was going to do with it or found another source.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Actually those that I was talking about, im not sending them traffic anymore. And if im still sending them traffic it would be because im finding similar programs that convert equally and the minute i find them i switch their ads.

I do understand your point about the "few hours" example. But if i can send 10 sales in 5 hours, why would that change when i send longer/more. I really think in an economy where we live in right now, people should be happy to help eachother make money and charish (is that a word) those that are still able to send sales.

My point is i guess, biz is done fast. And if i have to wait 5-6 days to get a simple custom 300x250, im losing out.

And yes, theres still so many sponsors that dont even have the most used banner sizes, its amazing

If you're not doing business with them the best way to make sure others know and/or they get their act to together is to name them. Does not have to be a flame, just a "disappointed I could not get what I need at ?????"

Still think the best way to get around the problems of higher payments is a scale where as you send more you get paid more. Not you get paid a set amount before you send the traffic.

If you're losing out on a simple thing like a banner, make one yourself. The delay is probably due to the sponsor not having an in house designer waiting for affiliates to make banners.

The cost of traffic goes way beyond the payments to affiliates. Support costs money as well. The margins sponsors are left with are getting smaller. To spend more on affiliates means less on content, most other costs can't be tampered with. Do you want less spent on what keeps buyers buying in this market today?

[mopek1]

Originally Posted by Trend

I just got off the phone with a program owner ... He was telling me that it is nearly impossible lately to get affiliates to send traffic even when his new sites are converting at better than 1:300 in most cases.

The problem is that EVERY program owner says that about every new site. I've taken the bait many times just to see my ratios at 1:4500 or worse. If a new site truly does convert at 1:300 spam away ...

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Jakez

also for the ones that make you wait days/weeks to get your fucking account approved just to grab promo content and link codes. I understand some of them need to do this to minimize fraud but if I can't get my account approved within 24hrs then I've either forgotten what I was going to do with it or found another source.

Exactly, i signed up for a program that offered me some solutions, just to get an email i would be approved within 24 hours. That was a week ago. I already am looking for other opps.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

If you're not doing business with them the best way to make sure others know and/or they get their act to together is to name them. Does not have to be a flame, just a "disappointed I could not get what I need at ?????"

Still think the best way to get around the problems of higher payments is a scale where as you send more you get paid more. Not you get paid a set amount before you send the traffic.

If you're losing out on a simple thing like a banner, make one yourself. The delay is probably due to the sponsor not having an in house designer waiting for affiliates to make banners.

The cost of traffic goes way beyond the payments to affiliates. Support costs money as well. The margins sponsors are left with are getting smaller. To spend more on affiliates means less on content, most other costs can't be tampered with. Do you want less spent on what keeps buyers buying in this market today?

Well i agree with your pov. But it cant be that hard to get a couple standard sized banners in their affiliate program. It would cost less to have it all setup and ready then to have an aff. rep running around that can't oversee the real moneymakers from the ones costing them money.

Or am i asking to much from the "rep" profession?

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Jerry's Intensity

wondering why sales are down? maybe its your reps?

here is a convo i just had

me
hey namewithheld, when will i hear back from them? i bring 20-50 joins daily

him
sorry, i don't know, it's not my department


lol

this is after waiting over a day for a response to setting up traffic for them

no joke

a few agencies like that out here in LA

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Jerry's Intensity

wondering why sales are down? maybe its your reps?

here is a convo i just had

me
hey namewithheld, when will i hear back from them? i bring 20-50 joins daily

him
sorry, i don't know, it's not my department


lol

this is after waiting over a day for a response to setting up traffic for them

no joke

hit me with an email, I shoot for a few programs that are very reliable and retain very well... please be aware that I'm doing dental surgery today so I'll be down for a few day and then Monday I can give you the contacts. sell at bmbhome dot com