SOBV aka Jason Forrest - Even more shady stuff... - GoFuckYourself.com

Konda · 08-18-2010, 04:23 AM

Customers that join any SOBV site and cancel automatically get signed up for their other sites regularly.

These are not cross sales, they actually create brand new memberships every month or two to their other sites.

I know this for a fact, because I joined a GFProfits site back in May to check out the members area. I canceled it right away.

Then over a month later, in June, I got a weird charge on my card. I called the support number and they said it was for a membership to SuperAdultPass.com, I asked them the username and they mentioned the one that I used to signup for when I joined the GF Profits site. I told them to cancel and refund.

Then 2 months after that (today) I got another weird charge that I didn't recognize. I called the support number and they said I joined CelebsOnly. Absolutely not true of course, and I asked them the username. Again they mentioned the username that I signed up with for GF Profits.

When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name. I checked that email account today, and there are indeed 2 signup emails for SuperAdultPass.com in June and for CelebsOnly.com in August, both had the fake customer details that I used to join the GFProfit site.

So they are just randomly creating brand new membership with data from their old customers.

I wonder why these people don't get their merchant accounts closed down. This is more shady than xsells!

Zuzana Designs · 08-18-2010, 04:41 AM

I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Scammers Suck"

JamesK · 08-18-2010, 04:42 AM

That is big.

Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.

08-18-2010, 04:44 AM

thats wrong. on a whole new level!

JFK · 08-18-2010, 04:50 AM

here we go again

Lukke · 08-18-2010, 05:04 AM

Same here. I tested GFProfits, because I wanted to know if signs up are generated correctly and there are some content in members area (which was terrible). Signed up for trial and after 8 hours cancelled. In a month there was 2 OTHER charges on my bank account. So I contacted EPGBILL and wanted to know where is a problem:

Quote:

05.02.2010
12:26
10,97 USD,EPGBILL.COM.NETHOLESSE, +18003687654, 280
PK: 541963XXXXXX5044
8323533/5500

and

05.23.2010
07:24
9,95 USD,EPGBILL.COM.NETHOLESER, +18007460238, 280
PK: 541963XXXXXX5044
8323533/5500

Need to CANCEL this billing and refund! Please let me know asap what
is it for and why my credit card has been billed every month.

They sent me a reply that billing has been cancelled (WFT, FOR WHAT??!).

Quote:

hcc> Dear Mr. Blecha,
hcc> We have canceled your membership to TeenDVDAccess.com
hcc> You will no longer be billed after this cancellation.
hcc> Best Regards,
hcc> Alex B.

A month later, there was one billing again.

Quote:

Hello Alex,
according to my bank statement, there is again for date 06.02.2010
this:

10,97 USD,EPGBILL.COM.NETHOLESER, +18003687654, 280
PK: 541963XXXXXX5044
8323533/5500

What is it?

Their reply from [email protected]:

Quote:

Dear Blecha

Thank you for contacting Member Support.
As requested, we have today canceled and refunded the charge back to your
account.
Please allow 7 to 10 business days for our billing processor to complete the refund transaction.
...
Luis M.
Customer support

What The Fuck Is This??! I just signed up for RealTeenieGfs site and CANCELED trial in a few hours. There were finally 4 charges on my bank account (1 for gfs trial, 3 others dont know for what).

Barefootsies · 08-18-2010, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

here we go again

CaptainHowdy · 08-18-2010, 05:06 AM

Bastard...

nolongerexists · 08-18-2010, 05:23 AM

and you wondering why tubes are so fucking nice?
fuck that CC shit, give me full length for free haha

Lukke · 08-18-2010, 05:39 AM

Btw. this can be found on chargehelper.com site:

Quote:

CHARGE BACKS AND FRAUD FROM OUR MEMBERS

A billing chargeback will place your name, address, zip code, and credit card number into an Internet fraud database. ALL INTERNET CREDIT CARD COMPANIES USE THIS DATABASE. We DO NOT have any control over this fraud database.

If you chargeback your membership, the billing company WILL add your information to the ban database. If you get into this database you will not be able to use that billing company again. It is impossible to get off the ban lists.

BE SMART! DON'T DESTROY YOUR INTERNET CREDIT BY BEING ADDED TO THIS LIST AND INVESTIGATED FOR FRAUD!

SteveHardeman · 08-18-2010, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Scammers Suck"

Please let it be a white tee shirt and let me spray it with water. :-)

vano · 08-18-2010, 05:50 AM

sounds like he is banging cards ?

Wiredoctor · 08-18-2010, 05:58 AM

This is no longer just scamming and not paying webmasters, but as I see it this is pure Felony Criminal Fraud and possibally Identy Theft.

pornstar2fag · 08-18-2010, 06:02 AM

You guys crack me up. Why don't you start a thread about yourself and how you knowingly fucked your surfers for years.

You sent them traffic knowing that they were gonna fuck your customers and now your surprised that they fucked you? Really? You're acting all shocked and stuff. Seriously? You didn't see that coming? Seriously?

There are still two large programs doing questionable cross-sales. Can I predict that you'll start a thread about them sometime this year?

You guys crack me up.

Don't go away mad. Just go away.

Phoenix · 08-18-2010, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiredoctor

This is no longer just scamming and not paying webmasters, but as I see it this is pure Felony Criminal Fraud and possibally Identy Theft.

now thats some juicy nipples!!!

Lukke · 08-18-2010, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornstar2fag

You guys crack me up. Why don't you start a thread about yourself and how you knowingly fucked your surfers for years.

Years? I have been promoting them few months and knew nothing about their "tactics"...

Quote:

There are still two large programs doing questionable cross-sales. Can I predict that you'll start a thread about them sometime this year?

Which programs?

vano · 08-18-2010, 06:07 AM

if there is so much fraud and chargebacks going on, why arent the billing companies terminating his billing?
or banks arent terminating his merchant?

Roald · 08-18-2010, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano

if there is so much fraud and chargebacks going on, why arent the billing companies terminating his billing?
or banks arent terminating his merchant?

sponsorpimp · 08-18-2010, 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda

Customers that join any SOBV site and cancel automatically get signed up for their other sites regularly.

These are not cross sales, they actually create brand new memberships every month or two to their other sites.

I know this for a fact, because I joined a GFProfits site back in May to check out the members area. I canceled it right away.

Then over a month later, in June, I got a weird charge on my card. I called the support number and they said it was for a membership to SuperAdultPass.com, I asked them the username and they mentioned the one that I used to signup for when I joined the GF Profits site. I told them to cancel and refund.

Then 2 months after that (today) I got another weird charge that I didn't recognize. I called the support number and they said I joined CelebsOnly. Absolutely not true of course, and I asked them the username. Again they mentioned the username that I signed up with for GF Profits.

When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name. I checked that email account today, and there are indeed 2 signup emails for SuperAdultPass.com in June and for CelebsOnly.com in August, both had the fake customer details that I used to join the GFProfit site.

So they are just randomly creating brand new membership with data from their old customers.

I wonder why these people don't get their merchant accounts closed down. This is more shady than xsells!

I don't understand how you can join a program using your credit card with a false name as you stated above "When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name." Please tell us how that is done to use a credit card with a fake name.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK

That is big.

Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.

I have to agree with you.

iSpyCams · 08-18-2010, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sponsorpimp

I don't understand how you can join a program using your credit card with a false name as you stated above "When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name." Please tell us how that is done to use a credit card with a fake name.

It's not hard, apparently. I get ccbill signups all the time from people named "master card" and "Chase bank". Surfers see "name on card" in the signup form and sometimes think that's the issuing bank or something.

What this means is that a match between the name and the CC # is not required by the current fraud scrub level.

Roald · 08-18-2010, 06:49 AM

btw this whole banging cards is nothing new, do a search on incerdible dollars, archive cash and solo converts.

Chosen · 08-18-2010, 07:04 AM

Fuck, it sucks...

~Ray · 08-18-2010, 07:14 AM

I sell backlinks. No credit card required.

~Ray

Agent 488 · 08-18-2010, 07:16 AM

innovative business model. adapt or die.

Pics Traffic · 08-18-2010, 07:19 AM

Didn't that guy Daizy have some beef with SOBV because they banged his card?

bloggerz · 08-18-2010, 08:02 AM

thats fucked up

arock10 · 08-18-2010, 09:25 AM

Who needs affiliates when you can just bang cards?

Fat Panda · 08-18-2010, 09:47 AM

some fucked up shit

kristin · 08-18-2010, 09:57 AM

Heh, I recognize that exit off of CelebsOnly.com.

JFK · 08-18-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vano

sounds like he is banging cards ?

what we need is a gif of someone actually banging a card

ottopottomouse · 08-18-2010, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs

I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Scammers Suck"

I'm getting a tee shirt made that say's "Yes Please". Just got to think of a scam now...

Mefo · 08-18-2010, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

btw this whole banging cards is nothing new, do a search on incerdible dollars, archive cash and solo converts.

yeps, this was already known months ago (january I think?)

IntenseLloyd · 08-19-2010, 06:52 AM

Anyone remember xpics? lol

notime · 08-19-2010, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK

what we need is a gif of someone actually banging a card

cykoe6 · 08-19-2010, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesK

That is big.

Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.

How is this big? This is common knowledge to anyone who is in this business that banging cards is a common occurrence.

gleem · 08-19-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IntenseLloyd

Anyone remember xpics? lol

YES! boy do i....

Billy Mays · 08-19-2010, 10:10 AM

JJ/SOBV are scam artists and really need to be reported to the DOJ asap.

trannysphere · 08-19-2010, 10:40 AM

i still have few $ on my nichecastle account. crap hahaha another drama

V_RocKs · 08-24-2010, 11:55 AM

Crazy shit!

fuzebox · 08-24-2010, 12:24 PM

You guys who aren't familiar with merchant accounts should realize, these companies can get away with a shitload of fraud as long as they have a solid support department. Chargeback control is all about support.

OldSchoolJim · 08-24-2010, 04:47 PM

his heres a story about billy joe and bobbie sue
Two young lovers with nothin better to do
Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose

They headed down to, ooh, old el paso
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
Billy joe shot a man while robbing his castle
Bobbie sue took the money and run

Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

Billy mack is a detective down in texas
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He aint gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin off of the peoples taxes

Bobbie sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away
Billy joe caught up to her the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

pornpf69 · 08-24-2010, 05:39 PM

this is way fucked up... maybe that is why everyone (including them) are staying away from their websites!

Lukke · 08-27-2010, 05:26 AM

Bumpity bump...

12clicks · 09-01-2010, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchoolJim

his heres a story about billy joe and bobbie sue
Two young lovers with nothin better to do
Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube
And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose

They headed down to, ooh, old el paso
That's where they ran into a great big hassle
Billy joe shot a man while robbing his castle
Bobbie sue took the money and run

Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

Billy mack is a detective down in texas
You know he knows just exactly what the facts is
He aint gonna let those two escape justice
He makes his livin off of the peoples taxes

Bobbie sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away
Billy joe caught up to her the very next day
They got the money, hey
You know they got away
They headed down south and they're still running today
Singin go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run
Go on take the money and run

how apropo of you to post this

BlueDude · 09-01-2010, 09:22 AM

You want to throw this guy in jail I will show you how. This is similar to Enzyte sexual pill case. The guy continue to charge without permission when people cancel. I think he get 15 years in prison. Here the link

http://www.cnbc.com/id/35988285/

Watch the video. He's doing the same as this guy so he'll get 15 years in jail. Just report it to the appropriate authority.

chronig · 09-01-2010, 09:24 AM

Did crazy shit like this go on in 2002-07? Just wondering

Jdoughs · 09-01-2010, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDude

He's doing the same as this guy so he'll get 15 years in jail.

What are you 13?

The Porn Nerd · 09-01-2010, 11:55 AM

Tsk tsk. Shady shit indeed. We here at PeabodyCash never do shady things like that so promote our sites!

Adapt or die, indeed.

PornMD · 09-01-2010, 12:36 PM

And in another thread recently I was having to explain to someone why surfers aren't likely to take out their credit card for porn. It's amazing irony - the industry that pioneered taking payments online is now doing the most to get people to NOT pay online via card banging, hidden cross sale shit, tubes giving everything away for free, etc. Two steps forward, three steps back.

If companies like this are able to fuck everyone and get away with it over and over again, this industry is only going to get worse.

papill0n · 09-01-2010, 01:20 PM

defintely not the only program doing this shit

I personally had the exact same thing happen to me

08-18-2010, 04:23 AM	#1
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	SOBV aka Jason Forrest - Even more shady stuff... Customers that join any SOBV site and cancel automatically get signed up for their other sites regularly. These are not cross sales, they actually create brand new memberships every month or two to their other sites. I know this for a fact, because I joined a GFProfits site back in May to check out the members area. I canceled it right away. Then over a month later, in June, I got a weird charge on my card. I called the support number and they said it was for a membership to SuperAdultPass.com, I asked them the username and they mentioned the one that I used to signup for when I joined the GF Profits site. I told them to cancel and refund. Then 2 months after that (today) I got another weird charge that I didn't recognize. I called the support number and they said I joined CelebsOnly. Absolutely not true of course, and I asked them the username. Again they mentioned the username that I signed up with for GF Profits. When I joined GFProfits I used an email address that I rarely use and fake name. I checked that email account today, and there are indeed 2 signup emails for SuperAdultPass.com in June and for CelebsOnly.com in August, both had the fake customer details that I used to join the GFProfit site. So they are just randomly creating brand new membership with data from their old customers. I wonder why these people don't get their merchant accounts closed down. This is more shady than xsells!

08-18-2010, 04:41 AM	#2
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08-18-2010, 04:50 AM	#5
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08-18-2010, 05:23 AM	#9
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08-18-2010, 04:42 AM	#3
JamesK hi Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 16,731	That is big. Care to post some screenshots and stuff? It's only a matter of time before people are going to ask.

08-18-2010, 04:44 AM	#4
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08-18-2010, 05:50 AM	#12
vano Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 209	sounds like he is banging cards ?

08-18-2010, 05:58 AM	#13
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08-18-2010, 06:02 AM	#14
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08-18-2010, 06:07 AM	#17
vano Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 209	if there is so much fraud and chargebacks going on, why arent the billing companies terminating his billing? or banks arent terminating his merchant?

08-18-2010, 06:49 AM	#21
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08-18-2010, 07:04 AM	#22
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08-18-2010, 07:14 AM	#23
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08-18-2010, 07:16 AM	#24
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08-18-2010, 07:19 AM	#25
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08-18-2010, 08:02 AM	#26
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08-18-2010, 09:25 AM	#27
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08-18-2010, 09:47 AM	#28
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08-18-2010, 09:57 AM	#29
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08-19-2010, 06:52 AM	#33
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08-19-2010, 10:10 AM	#37
Billy Mays So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 128	JJ/SOBV are scam artists and really need to be reported to the DOJ asap.

08-19-2010, 10:40 AM	#38
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08-24-2010, 11:55 AM	#39
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08-24-2010, 12:24 PM	#40
fuzebox making it rain Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: seattle Posts: 22,004	You guys who aren't familiar with merchant accounts should realize, these companies can get away with a shitload of fraud as long as they have a solid support department. Chargeback control is all about support.

08-24-2010, 04:47 PM	#41
OldSchoolJim Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,117	his heres a story about billy joe and bobbie sue Two young lovers with nothin better to do Than sit around the house, get high, and watch the tube And here is what happened when they decided to cut loose They headed down to, ooh, old el paso That's where they ran into a great big hassle Billy joe shot a man while robbing his castle Bobbie sue took the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Billy mack is a detective down in texas You know he knows just exactly what the facts is He aint gonna let those two escape justice He makes his livin off of the peoples taxes Bobbie sue, whoa, whoa, she slipped away Billy joe caught up to her the very next day They got the money, hey You know they got away They headed down south and they're still running today Singin go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run Go on take the money and run

08-24-2010, 05:39 PM	#42
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08-27-2010, 05:26 AM	#43
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09-01-2010, 09:22 AM	#45
BlueDude Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 271	You want to throw this guy in jail I will show you how. This is similar to Enzyte sexual pill case. The guy continue to charge without permission when people cancel. I think he get 15 years in prison. Here the link http://www.cnbc.com/id/35988285/ Watch the video. He's doing the same as this guy so he'll get 15 years in jail. Just report it to the appropriate authority.

09-01-2010, 09:24 AM	#46
chronig Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,653	Did crazy shit like this go on in 2002-07? Just wondering

09-01-2010, 11:55 AM	#48
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09-01-2010, 12:36 PM	#49
PornMD Mainstream Businessman Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 9,291	And in another thread recently I was having to explain to someone why surfers aren't likely to take out their credit card for porn. It's amazing irony - the industry that pioneered taking payments online is now doing the most to get people to NOT pay online via card banging, hidden cross sale shit, tubes giving everything away for free, etc. Two steps forward, three steps back. If companies like this are able to fuck everyone and get away with it over and over again, this industry is only going to get worse. __________________ Want to crush it in mainstream with Facebook ads? Hit me up.

09-01-2010, 01:20 PM	#50
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	defintely not the only program doing this shit I personally had the exact same thing happen to me