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scarlettcontent · 08-20-2010, 11:32 AM

interesting thread. we need some gf content. if anyone wants to rev share with it hit me up

ottopottomouse · 08-20-2010, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chronig

shall I find that ridiculously hilarious post of you trying to peddle some 'ex-gf' content that literally looks like it was shot in the 80s?

Well she would definitely be a real ex-gf by now then

chronig · 08-20-2010, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Well she would definitely be a real ex-gf by now then

found the thread and all the images are now currently broken

seriously... this guy is a fucking joke... if you want to peddle your 1980s content then label your thread:

SHITTY OLD 1980s CONTENT FOR 30$

Don't stick an ex-gf label on it just because everyone else is. Paul you delusional old hippy... this thread is about YOU. YOU are the BEST EXAMPLE of a lame 'producer' making shitty incorrect ex-gf content.... just accept that and move on with your life. Thanks.

halfpint · 08-20-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

I agree about the video. I have been trying dumb down the video by using a handheld camera to shoot short videos instead of a camcorder. The best content like this comes from buying it from real people. I have done that but its hard to come by.

There is a place u can buy this type of content and its from a pretty big website which allows users to post thier own pics, movies, do cam shows, escort, write thier own blogs, sell items..ect

Litzer · 08-20-2010, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

There is a place u can buy this type of content and its from a pretty big website which allows users to post thier own pics, movies, do cam shows, escort, write thier own blogs, sell items..ect

Will you link to this place? I am interested in the content.

NaughtyRob · 08-20-2010, 08:29 PM

Yes, please email me this place, thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfpint

There is a place u can buy this type of content and its from a pretty big website which allows users to post thier own pics, movies, do cam shows, escort, write thier own blogs, sell items..ect

Jakez · 08-20-2010, 10:50 PM

Are the vast majority of gf pics underage or underage looking? Yes. It's a niche that spawns from user submitted content and let's face the fact: the closer to 16-18 the girls look the more interested these fetish lovers are.

That said, to say that the gf niche is something to be ignored or to stay away from is total stupidity. There is SO MUCH legal EXCLUSIVE content for FREE to be had. You might want to read that last sentence again to process the benefits fully. Think about all the money you spend on equipment and paying the models and then think about that.

Those with no experience in the particular niche, no matter their amount of experience with producing in general, will take a quick glimpse over it and only see the oversaturated illegal pics and sites. Meanwhile there are plenty of real amateur sites profiting big time off this niche, LEGALLY.

Paul, I have only the most respect for you with all your experience in this industry. But to say this content is not worth it is not only wrong but financial suicide for someone with so much access to the resources you probably have. The niche thrives on CRAPPY shot content. The surfers love it and it's possible that you don't even need to pay for it. All legally.

As already stated many times this niche is a completely different world compared to the usual pornographic content. Throw your whole idea of what involves being a producer out the window.

Paul Markham · 08-21-2010, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Paul, I have only the most respect for you with all your experience in this industry. But to say this content is not worth it is not only wrong but financial suicide for someone with so much access to the resources you probably have. The niche thrives on CRAPPY shot content. The surfers love it and it's possible that you don't even need to pay for it. All legally.

As already stated many times this niche is a completely different world compared to the usual pornographic content. Throw your whole idea of what involves being a producer out the window.

Thank you. On another thread put up by Fiddler I explained to shooters how to make $4,000 from a day shooting this content. I've been shooting "readers wives" which is another name for Exgf content for over 30 years now. Since 1990 for the mags, each set of 20 pics makes about $500. Had a check last week from a magazine publisher and will get another one next week. It's content I still own and all 2257 compliant. Yes some of it's dated. Like everyone who produces for decades content gets dated.

Can I shoot it today? Well I'm not shooting at all, but if I were I would do this content on a casting. Along with the other content we shot.

Is it worth shooting on a casting that 10 girls attend? Yes.

Is it worth shooting as a stand alone project for a days work? No unless you're scraping for work. Or the buyers are paying proper money for the shoot and the prices I've seen quoted for it leads me to say no.

Is it worth shooting a scene at the end of a days shoot? The last price I saw offered was $150 for a set and video. I suppose if you need $150, it takes 20 minutes and don't pay out any extra for it. It's not bad. But this shows why so many scream it's not right or asking for the content.

Paul Markham · 08-21-2010, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

There is a place u can buy this type of content and its from a pretty big website which allows users to post thier own pics, movies, do cam shows, escort, write thier own blogs, sell items..ect

With so many screaming about piracy I'm amazed to see this post.

Anything user submitted is risky unless the submitter has full 2257 documentation.

Paul Markham · 08-21-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chronig

found the thread and all the images are now currently broken

seriously... this guy is a fucking joke... if you want to peddle your 1980s content then label your thread:

SHITTY OLD 1980s CONTENT FOR 30$

Don't stick an ex-gf label on it just because everyone else is. Paul you delusional old hippy... this thread is about YOU. YOU are the BEST EXAMPLE of a lame 'producer' making shitty incorrect ex-gf content.... just accept that and move on with your life. Thanks.

Yes I took the images down.

Let me explain why this is another stupid post.

This is business not a game. Like sponsors, affiliates and everyone else in this business I worked for the highest payer. While content shooters here were shooting sets and video for $100s which they no longer earn from. We were shooting sets only for $1,000s which we still own. And still selling.

Whether you like my content or not is irrelevant. The ultimate decision of what and how we shot was determined on who paid the most. You don't sell your labor for less than you can get and we don't sell ours for less than we can get.

NetHorse · 08-21-2010, 03:52 AM

So which program do you like the best?

What do you think of herselfpics.com?

Honestly, they all look the same to me. I'm just trying to find one that would convert well with Amateur traffic from a reputable program.

Peace · 08-21-2010, 04:28 AM

Paul i think you are genius because you could write really nice long making sense replies and still do business. if i do that i would not have time for business. That means you are talented shooter and writer. Good post as well )))

Dirty Dane · 08-21-2010, 04:41 AM

Promote it as amateur instead of GF. Amateur convert better.

Paul Markham · 08-21-2010, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Peace

Paul i think you are genius because you could write really nice long making sense replies and still do business. if i do that i would not have time for business. That means you are talented shooter and writer. Good post as well )))

Just applying common sense. Something some people have a problem with.

Chronig tracks down the most profitable domains because it's the right thing to do. Then flames me for shooting the most profitable content.

Litzer · 10-05-2010, 08:28 PM

Shoot what makes money for you. That's the name of the game. Again this is just my opinion on GF style content.

Slutboat · 10-05-2010, 08:49 PM

"Pro Am" my fav.... I can fake real looking ex-gf shit all day long but I agree with Mutt girls dont do shit when you send them home with a camera.

Litzer · 10-05-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

"Pro Am" my fav.... I can fake real looking ex-gf shit all day long but I agree with Mutt girls dont do shit when you send them home with a camera.

Good to know. I admit that its easy for me to say "Just send the girl home with a cheap cam and let her do the work". Ive heard of producers giving cheap cameras to girls in-house and having them go in other rooms to do self shooting.

Any experiences with this?

NaughtyRob · 10-05-2010, 08:58 PM

Its what I do all the time.... a few new samples below.

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Originally Posted by Litzer

Ive heard of producers giving cheap cameras to girls in-house and having them go in other rooms to do self shooting.
Any experiences with this?

Litzer · 10-05-2010, 09:11 PM

Perfection right there. ^^^^
The camera / photo quality, the product on the sink, the tothpaste splatter on the mirror. Its absolutely right on.
If I could rep you I would.

sologirlcontent · 10-05-2010, 09:25 PM

Thanks for mentioning our stuff as some of the "correct" way..we started shooting the ex- Gf content in 07 before it was called it Ex-gf..well the vids anyway..I would rent a house..give model camera and tell her to fill up the tapes, I'll be back in two days to pay her..so she was literally shooting HERSELF in hours of tapes..

when started selling -ex gf pix in march-april of 09..asked some girls on Myspace to send a pic for $1...do as many as you like, sign model release and receive paypal.. so you mix it with different locations, throw in some already shot party pix or vacation at the lake w/ the girls..throw in some of the stuff I already have and bang..you have a solid package.

problem is...it's a niche that doesn't pay alot to the producers in the exclusive area, so I had to move into something that personally "pays" me..so we are more fetish/niche now..as in humiliation, financial doms, small penis humiliation, Hypno, jerk off mockery, Brats, princess, balloons..and that stuff sales like hot cakes...such as http://cruelchloe.com

I can get 1 customer to send me $600-900 to have a couple of private videos done for him...so much easier to deal with

and then my amateur stuff http://destiny.shakinit.com and http://roxy.shakinit.com

sologirlcontent · 10-05-2010, 09:30 PM

http://www.princessceara.com/ and http://povhumiliation.com and http://humiliationpov.com and many more

sites/scenes like this trump the sales of glossy "sologirl" sites and w/out affiliates..I know which way we are heading in 2011

brandonstills · 10-05-2010, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Slow Roosevelt

Or you can get it off 4chan

brandonstills · 10-05-2010, 09:42 PM

Agreed.

I have a similar pet peeve with POV content. If it is labeled POV then it should not be obvious that their is another guy in the room holding the camera.

Litzer · 10-05-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sologirlcontent

problem is...it's a niche that doesn't pay alot to the producers in the exclusive area, so I had to move into something that personally "pays" me..so we are more fetish/niche now..as in humiliation, financial doms, small penis humiliation, Hypno, jerk off mockery, Brats, princess, balloons..and that stuff sales like hot cakes...such as http://cruelchloe.com

I can get 1 customer to send me $600-900 to have a couple of private videos done for him...so much easier to deal with

and then my amateur stuff http://destiny.shakinit.com and http://roxy.shakinit.com

Seems to be the #1 issue with this niche.

stocktrader23 · 10-05-2010, 10:32 PM

Said this about cams a fucking decade ago. Producers here are fucking retarded, even dumb ass jim-the-fiend was better at it than them.

Litzer · 10-05-2010, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by stocktrader23

Said this about cams a fucking decade ago. Producers here are fucking retarded, even dumb ass jim-the-fiend was better at it than them.

What did you say about cams?

Matyko · 10-06-2010, 01:07 AM

Good thread, excellent first post, KUDOS!

08-20-2010, 11:32 AM	#51
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08-20-2010, 10:50 PM	#57
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	Are the vast majority of gf pics underage or underage looking? Yes. It's a niche that spawns from user submitted content and let's face the fact: the closer to 16-18 the girls look the more interested these fetish lovers are. That said, to say that the gf niche is something to be ignored or to stay away from is total stupidity. There is SO MUCH legal EXCLUSIVE content for FREE to be had. You might want to read that last sentence again to process the benefits fully. Think about all the money you spend on equipment and paying the models and then think about that. Those with no experience in the particular niche, no matter their amount of experience with producing in general, will take a quick glimpse over it and only see the oversaturated illegal pics and sites. Meanwhile there are plenty of real amateur sites profiting big time off this niche, LEGALLY. Paul, I have only the most respect for you with all your experience in this industry. But to say this content is not worth it is not only wrong but financial suicide for someone with so much access to the resources you probably have. The niche thrives on CRAPPY shot content. The surfers love it and it's possible that you don't even need to pay for it. All legally. As already stated many times this niche is a completely different world compared to the usual pornographic content. Throw your whole idea of what involves being a producer out the window. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati Last edited by Jakez; 08-20-2010 at 10:53 PM..

08-21-2010, 03:52 AM	#61
NetHorse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,526	So which program do you like the best? What do you think of herselfpics.com? Honestly, they all look the same to me. I'm just trying to find one that would convert well with Amateur traffic from a reputable program. __________________ ┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐ ICQ # 427013273

08-21-2010, 04:28 AM	#62
Peace Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NY and Moscow Posts: 5,518	Paul i think you are genius because you could write really nice long making sense replies and still do business. if i do that i would not have time for business. That means you are talented shooter and writer. Good post as well ))) __________________ Need Custom or Licensed Content? Visit PhotoVideoContent.com Email: [email protected] / Telegram: @romatibet / Skype: Peace888

10-05-2010, 08:49 PM	#66
Slutboat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,388	"Pro Am" my fav.... I can fake real looking ex-gf shit all day long but I agree with Mutt girls dont do shit when you send them home with a camera. __________________ The Slut Boat soon will be making another run The Slut Boat promises something for everyone

08-21-2010, 04:41 AM	#63
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Promote it as amateur instead of GF. Amateur convert better.

10-05-2010, 08:28 PM	#65
Litzer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 480	Shoot what makes money for you. That's the name of the game. Again this is just my opinion on GF style content.

10-05-2010, 09:11 PM	#69
Litzer Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 480	Perfection right there. ^^^^ The camera / photo quality, the product on the sink, the tothpaste splatter on the mirror. Its absolutely right on. If I could rep you I would. Last edited by Litzer; 10-05-2010 at 09:12 PM..

10-05-2010, 09:25 PM	#70
sologirlcontent So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,617	Thanks for mentioning our stuff as some of the "correct" way..we started shooting the ex- Gf content in 07 before it was called it Ex-gf..well the vids anyway..I would rent a house..give model camera and tell her to fill up the tapes, I'll be back in two days to pay her..so she was literally shooting HERSELF in hours of tapes.. when started selling -ex gf pix in march-april of 09..asked some girls on Myspace to send a pic for $1...do as many as you like, sign model release and receive paypal.. so you mix it with different locations, throw in some already shot party pix or vacation at the lake w/ the girls..throw in some of the stuff I already have and bang..you have a solid package. problem is...it's a niche that doesn't pay alot to the producers in the exclusive area, so I had to move into something that personally "pays" me..so we are more fetish/niche now..as in humiliation, financial doms, small penis humiliation, Hypno, jerk off mockery, Brats, princess, balloons..and that stuff sales like hot cakes...such as http://cruelchloe.com I can get 1 customer to send me $600-900 to have a couple of private videos done for him...so much easier to deal with and then my amateur stuff http://destiny.shakinit.com and http://roxy.shakinit.com

10-05-2010, 09:30 PM	#71
sologirlcontent So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 2,617	http://www.princessceara.com/ and http://povhumiliation.com and http://humiliationpov.com and many more sites/scenes like this trump the sales of glossy "sologirl" sites and w/out affiliates..I know which way we are heading in 2011 Last edited by sologirlcontent; 10-05-2010 at 09:32 PM..

10-05-2010, 09:42 PM	#73
brandonstills Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 1,964	Agreed. I have a similar pet peeve with POV content. If it is labeled POV then it should not be obvious that their is another guy in the room holding the camera. __________________ Brandon Stills Industry and programming veteran [email protected] \| skype: brandonstills \| ICQ #495-171-318

10-05-2010, 10:32 PM	#75
stocktrader23 Let's do some business. Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: The dirty south. Posts: 18,781	Said this about cams a fucking decade ago. Producers here are fucking retarded, even dumb ass jim-the-fiend was better at it than them.

10-06-2010, 01:07 AM	#77
Matyko PsyHead Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hungary Posts: 8,664	Good thread, excellent first post, KUDOS! __________________ -=- Register with our ref link and we help you with the setup! -=- AdSpyglass.com - Double your profit from brokers