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xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 12:12 PM

Ok his name is thumper(name they had him b4 i got him, so ill stick to it)

So far on day 2, he likes his crate only if he can see me or im in the same room.. otherwise he just cries.. he is too cute.. i cant walk him easily because EVERY PERSON wants to pet him.. yesterday at least 100+ women pet him.. yes 100+. i live in downtown san diego on market street right where the action is, so hundreds of people walk by everyday..

some girls pulled up to the sidewalk and asked if they could carry him.lols, he got carried at least 5 times yesterday.. i keep telling ppl he is bity but they dont care..

anyway i didnt want this kind of attention.. i just wanted a cute little dog.haha

I live on 21st floor and he pees every 2hrs so i cant make it.. i tried walking him but once he steps outside my door he pees on the floor in the lobby, elevator, etc.. i tried carrying him till we get outside and that kinda works.. ive also gotten him to pee in the tub a few times.. so im thinking i might just get puppy pads so he can pee when he is inside, then ill take him outside to poop..

anyway here are some pics.. hes around 2lbs, and hes a mix of Maltese and poodle.. 11 weeks old..and hes smart.. he knows a few tricks already :D.. helps that im working with a trainer

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE · 08-22-2010, 12:14 PM

that's the dog that you were concerned about being a biter?

man, you're the biggest fucking pussy on this forum holy shit.

oh, btw, a dog that small in a high rise you teach them to use a litter box idiot.

tony286 · 08-22-2010, 12:17 PM

He is too cute .you can get that astro thing so you can have him also go in the house or the terrace.Going up and down can be a pain

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by area51

that's the dog that you were concerned about being a biter?

man, you're the biggest fucking pussy on this forum holy shit.

oh, btw, a dog that small in a high rise you teach them to use a litter box idiot.

haha yeah he is too cute.. he is a ladies man and he is so friendly.. people carry him and he licks em all over.. he doesnt growl/bark

amateurbfs · 08-22-2010, 12:24 PM

I guess your plan to get a dog for chicks worked?

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299

He is too cute .you can get that astro thing so you can have him also go in the house or the terrace.Going up and down can be a pain

what astro thing? yeah i think im gonna have him go inside

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by amateurbfs

I guess your plan to get a dog for chicks worked?

well my #1 reason for getting the dog was cuz i love dogs, and im home all day alone, so the company is nice.. i love the lil bastard

and maybe down there #3 reason, girls, yeah it works.. ive had girls ask if they can come play with him.. and ive only had him 48hrs.lol. too bad im dating a girl already

scuba steve · 08-22-2010, 12:30 PM

2lbs, wow thats nothing. how big is he supposed to get?

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by scuba steve

2lbs, wow thats nothing. how big is he supposed to get?

7lb or so..lol

ottopottomouse · 08-22-2010, 12:32 PM

Poses for the camera nicely.

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Poses for the camera nicely.

haha he knows the sit command.. so i made him sit.. now if i can only teach him to stay..

L-Pink · 08-22-2010, 12:55 PM

Are you sure that's not a cat?

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Agent 488 · 08-22-2010, 01:01 PM

that dog is a dude magnet for sure.

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

that dog is a dude magnet for sure.

dude magnet? lol

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 01:15 PM

what do u guys prefer.. grass or puppy pads..

MaDalton · 08-22-2010, 01:17 PM

i refrain from posting the naked pics of you in your imageshack account

but the dog is cute ;)

starpimps · 08-22-2010, 01:22 PM

get this

ballin!

Slappin Fish · 08-22-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i refrain from posting the naked pics of you in your imageshack account

but the dog is cute ;)

LMFLAO

Spunky · 08-22-2010, 01:33 PM

Cute looking pup

Sly · 08-22-2010, 01:44 PM

http://img43.imageshack.us/i/p1000087s.jpg/

Hot.

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i refrain from posting the naked pics of you in your imageshack account

but the dog is cute ;)

hehe doesnt matter.lol i was fucking around, trying to track my weight gain/body building... :D

but ya i might get grass

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

http://img43.imageshack.us/i/p1000087s.jpg/

Hot.

thnx man >

tony286 · 08-22-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by starpimps

get this

ballin!

thats what I was talking about I dont know the name of it.

Chosen · 08-22-2010, 01:53 PM

Cutie

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299

thats what I was talking about I dont know the name of it.

i think its called the potty patch?? so if i train him to pee inside, but only poop outside, then maybe im getting somewhere.lol

Slick · 08-22-2010, 03:03 PM

The thing to me is that even though it's a pain in the ass, I think that letting everyone pet him is a GOOD thing, that way the dog will grow up to be a good social dog.

damnage · 08-22-2010, 03:08 PM

Spent to long on the site, thought I was going to get some doggy style pics

;)

L-Pink · 08-22-2010, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i refrain from posting the naked pics of you in your imageshack account

but the dog is cute ;)

That's funny as shit,

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O MARINA · 08-22-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's funny as shit,

.

what did i miss !!!

cute pup

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

That's funny as shit,

.

hehe its not really naked, just me with my shirt off.. who cares

im trying to compare before/after of my bulk

Was 165lbs, now 175 lbs :-)

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

what did i miss !!!

cute pup

http://img43.imageshack.us/i/p1000087s.jpg/

me with no shirt

O MARINA · 08-22-2010, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

hehe its not really naked, just me with my shirt off.. who cares

im trying to compare before/after of my bulk

Was 165lbs, now 175 lbs :-)

the girls are gonna be all over you with that dog

O MARINA · 08-22-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

http://img43.imageshack.us/i/p1000087s.jpg/

me with no shirt

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

hehe i have a nice body

no fat anywhere.lol and all muscle.. yay!!

V_RocKs · 08-22-2010, 04:14 PM

Nice pup

Elli · 08-22-2010, 04:20 PM

Super cute, but I would avoid the pee pads. 21st floor means you'll have to be pretty discliplined. For a rough estimate, every month of age is how long their bladder can be reliable in hours (ie: 2 months old, they can be left two hours between potty breaks). The problem with puppy pads is the dog learns its OK to pee inside! What if there's no puppy pad? What if it smells different because it's someone else's home? No problem! I'm allowed to pee inside! It makes proper housetraining later THAT much more difficult.

Good luck with your little guy! He's super cute

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 05:36 PM

yes ive been debating this.. but the good thing is he wont pee/poop in his crate.. like 5mins away he was crying, so i brought him out of his crate, and he started sniffing, 10secs later he peed, i corrected him, BUT it will take me 5mins to get downstairs.lol

thats the problem... i keep walking him a lot, but it doesn't stop him from peeing inside either.. my problem also is that right when i open my door, the elevator area is carpeted.. so even if i bring him out of my door, the second he steps outside, he pees.. he also peed on the floor of the main lobby of my building... its all confusing to him, way too many steps to take..

open door, wait for elevator, get in, wait, arrive at lobby downstairs, go out through double doors... this is potty training nightmare.. i cant have him peeing in the elevator/lobby area at all, so how can i correct him without having him PEE there first..

QUICK QUESTION: will a puppy pee/poop WHILE BEING CARRIED?

im thinking of just carrying him outside everytime he needs to pee/poop...ive talked to a few people and they recommend i just get pee pads and have him pee indoors, while some other people think thats a bad idea

Elli · 08-22-2010, 07:00 PM

Absolutely it will, especially if you're trying to interrupt a pee in the wrong place. It's like a human baby. Babies pee and poop all the time when they're being carried. What works best is a strict schedule. I found a great post for you on pee pad training. I've posted it below (can't seem to find a link for it, but you can find it on the Rat Terrier forum at Rat-Terrier.com and look for the thread "Potty Training Help! (Very frustrated and sad!)" in the Training section)

Here's a great article on crate training, which it looks like you've started

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http://www.humanesociety.org/animals..._training.html

"I'm not a huge advocate of piddle pad training, but if that's the route you want to go down.... it can be done. One thing I caution everyone about is not trying to train a puppy to both (piddle pads and going outside) because it's way too confusing for the puppy and being inconsistent in our efforts is not fair to the pup.

So the first thing you need to do is to decide on which route you wish to take with potty training efforts. (1) Do you want her to be pad trained or (2) do you wish for her to be trained to do her business outdoors. That's step # 1... a decision you need to make.

Assuming that your decision is to go the piddle pad route based on your initial thread... let's talk about that a little. The basic concept is that a pup prefers to do her business where she did it before... wherever that might be. I would invest in an x-pen ... which will keep the pup confined but also allow some freedom. You don't want to allow your pup to run free (and out of sight) before understanding where she is to relieve herself. Make sure this space is visible to you, and preferably in a tiled or easily cleaned area. You don't want your pup to feel punished or left alone in this area, and you also don't want to be cleaning up "accidents" on carpet.

At one corner of the confined area, place a piddle pad. These pads smell like pee to the puppy (not to humans though!!), which makes her want to go there. Over time, you can cut these pads down, but at first, use a whole pad so there's a better chance of your pup peeing on the actual pad. The pad should be as far away from their sleeping and eating area as possible within the space as your puppy will instinctively want to keep the sleeping and eating area clean. If you want... put the crate in there and leave it open so she can go in and out when and if she wants.

If you catch your pup in a squat off her pad, interrupt her quickly (not negatively - just a simple "ah-ah" will do), lift her up and move her to her pad. When she pees there, praise her big time. Clean up any mess off the pad quickly and quietly - being sure to use a urine smell removing cleaner.

As your pup seems to be getting the hang of peeing on the pads in her confined area, you can expand her space, but do it gradually. You may want to put multiple pads around the areas you want to let her explore, so that if she needs to go now, she can easily find a spot. This will also allow you to move her quickly if you catch her going off her pad. I think the key to success in ANY potty training effort is praise. Supervise her... praise her when she's successful in offering the behavior you are seeking. And remember to NEVER punish her for pottying somewhere she shouldn't unless you see her in the actual act of doing so. And even then... do it verbally with a firm "NO !!! " and never spank her. Not saying you do... or that you will... just saying I've known folks to do that and it can yield disastrous results.

I just added a six-month old female rattie to my pack. She's been litter-box trained. I don't do litter boxes, so I'm having to now REtrain her to go outside. At this point she stays crated a lot, but as she becomes more consistent with pottying outside, she'll earn more free time outside of the crate. It's good and beneficial to set boundaries like this for your pup. They need to learn what is expected of them at an early age. You can leave her crated if you want.. up to an hour per month of age plus an hour. So if she's 4 months old you should be able to leave her crated for 5 hours. It won't hurt her... pups sleep a lot anyway. Crates are wonderful aids in potty training.

"

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 07:15 PM

Thanks so much Elli.. my problem is that my guy wont pee on his crate, but as soon as I open the door outside, he pees on the carpet on my floor..

if i had a yard, or my door led outside, potty training would be 100x easier..

When he was peeing on the carpet in the lobby outside, i yelled out No and stopped him, but before i got downstairs it took few minutes.. i doubt he knows the whole point..

its tough im not sure what to do.lol.. im walking him a lot and when he pees i tell him i praise him and give him lots of treats.. the problem is he PEES as soon as he leaves the door of my apartment, and it takes too long to get him downstairs..

ideally id like him to pee/poop outside.. i dont wanna use pads honestly

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 07:17 PM

also, this last accident, i knew he wanted to pee! he was squatting and trying to sniff and pee inside, so i took him outside, before the elevator came, he already peed.. what am i supposed to do in that situation?

tony286 · 08-22-2010, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

also, this last accident, i knew he wanted to pee! he was squatting and trying to sniff and pee inside, so i took him outside, before the elevator came, he already peed.. what am i supposed to do in that situation?

He doesnt have the control, so when he has to go he is just going. What I would do is just take him out ever 90 mins til he gets older whether he has to go or not. When cj was getting old, he started to having control problems. So instead of hoping I got him out the door, we just started taking him out every 90 mins. Mine is easier because we have backyard.

tony286 · 08-22-2010, 07:47 PM

when they get older,they can hold it for a long time. Im teaching moo to ring a bell when she has to go out.

nudecanada · 08-22-2010, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

Thanks so much Elli.. my problem is that my guy wont pee on his crate, but as soon as I open the door outside, he pees on the carpet on my floor..

That is the idea of crate training. The dogs won't pee in there because that is where they live/sleep. It is their "cave".

The last thing you want is your dog peeing in the crate. We had small dogs and were told by a reputable trainer to even stuff a pillow inside to make the crate smaller so the dogs did not have room to walk/circle/squat/pee inside. And it worked great, dogs were fine.

That crate is going to become that dog's cave. We kept our crates and the dogs love them. Took the wire doors off and we will find them snoozing in them, hiding when something scared them...it is a place for them to escape and feel safe. Not pee in. ;)

Good luck!

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 08:04 PM

yeah hes starting to feel comfortable in it.. my problem still is that i gotta figure out a way to make him hold his pee till we go downstairs.. im honestly thinking of just carrying him downstairs everytime then leash him and walk him while outside..

whats the downside to this? i honestly think he is less likely to pee/poop on me if he is being carried

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 08:19 PM

lol he woke up from a nap, i took him outside, while waiting for the elevator he peed again.. pfft.. the guy is confused.. i told him no and tried to stop him but that doesnt help... i need him to wait till we are completely outside..

xxweekxx · 08-22-2010, 08:23 PM

im thinking, what if i train to pee on pads indoors, then start taking him outside to same spot and put the pad down there for him to pee, eventually keep reducing the size of pad till it completely disappears and he pees there.. will this work?

if my dog keeps peeing here im gonna get in trouble soon.. im in a high end luxury condo, nobody wants dog pee on their floor lobby

Elli · 08-22-2010, 08:29 PM

Yes, no peeing in the crate! With Daisy we had to stuff an entire banker's box upside down inside her crate until she was 6 months old to fill up the extra space!

Sure, I see no reason not to carry him until you're outside. That will reinforce the 'this isn't appropriate' feeling. But realize that accidents will definitely happen. The key is consistency! For our pup's first month or so it went like this and we had surprisingly few accidents:

pee: 6am (or when doggy wakes up)
back to bed with NO PLAYING OR CUDDLING until your regular wakeup time
pee: 8am (or when YOU wake up)
breakfast
pee within 10 minutes of finishing breakfast
exercise (at least 15 mins, increasing with age)
pee within 60 mins of finishing breakfast
pee every hour after that
lunch (puppies metabolize very quickly and have small tummies. three meals a day until they're a few months old is a great idea)
pee within 15 mins of finishing lunch
pee within 60 mins of finishing lunch
pee every hour
dinner
pee within 15 mins of finishing dinner
exercise (increasing with age)
pee within 60 mins of dinner
pee every hour
pee right before bed
probably a pee at 2-4 am

If he has to pee in the middle of the night, there should be no extra playing or talking. Just quietly put in the pee spot, say the command 'go pee' or whatever, and lots of praise when done. Then straight back to the crate/bed. This should not be a ruse for playtime.

Good luck!!

Like I mentioned before, at one month of age, a pee every hour. At two months, every two hours. By five months he should be able to hold his bladder for five hours. The more consistent you are, the fewer accidents you'll have!

tony286 · 08-22-2010, 09:22 PM

elli I think your site is down I clicked on the link on your sig
HTTP - 500 Internal Server Error
The page you are attempting to load returned an error.

jigg · 08-22-2010, 09:28 PM

dang missed the hot shots!

puppy is cuteness though

Elli · 08-22-2010, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by tony299

elli I think your site is down I clicked on the link on your sig
HTTP - 500 Internal Server Error
The page you are attempting to load returned an error.

oh ffs. Thanks Tony. Argh.

08-22-2010, 12:14 PM	#2
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xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	My new doggy pics and some thoughts.. Ok his name is thumper(name they had him b4 i got him, so ill stick to it) So far on day 2, he likes his crate only if he can see me or im in the same room.. otherwise he just cries.. he is too cute.. i cant walk him easily because EVERY PERSON wants to pet him.. yesterday at least 100+ women pet him.. yes 100+. i live in downtown san diego on market street right where the action is, so hundreds of people walk by everyday.. some girls pulled up to the sidewalk and asked if they could carry him.lols, he got carried at least 5 times yesterday.. i keep telling ppl he is bity but they dont care.. anyway i didnt want this kind of attention.. i just wanted a cute little dog.haha I live on 21st floor and he pees every 2hrs so i cant make it.. i tried walking him but once he steps outside my door he pees on the floor in the lobby, elevator, etc.. i tried carrying him till we get outside and that kinda works.. ive also gotten him to pee in the tub a few times.. so im thinking i might just get puppy pads so he can pee when he is inside, then ill take him outside to poop.. anyway here are some pics.. hes around 2lbs, and hes a mix of Maltese and poodle.. 11 weeks old..and hes smart.. he knows a few tricks already :D.. helps that im working with a trainer __________________ _________________ I am the best Last edited by xxweekxx; 08-22-2010 at 12:26 PM..

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08-22-2010, 05:36 PM	#37
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	yes ive been debating this.. but the good thing is he wont pee/poop in his crate.. like 5mins away he was crying, so i brought him out of his crate, and he started sniffing, 10secs later he peed, i corrected him, BUT it will take me 5mins to get downstairs.lol thats the problem... i keep walking him a lot, but it doesn't stop him from peeing inside either.. my problem also is that right when i open my door, the elevator area is carpeted.. so even if i bring him out of my door, the second he steps outside, he pees.. he also peed on the floor of the main lobby of my building... its all confusing to him, way too many steps to take.. open door, wait for elevator, get in, wait, arrive at lobby downstairs, go out through double doors... this is potty training nightmare.. i cant have him peeing in the elevator/lobby area at all, so how can i correct him without having him PEE there first.. QUICK QUESTION: will a puppy pee/poop WHILE BEING CARRIED? im thinking of just carrying him outside everytime he needs to pee/poop...ive talked to a few people and they recommend i just get pee pads and have him pee indoors, while some other people think thats a bad idea __________________ _________________ I am the best Last edited by xxweekxx; 08-22-2010 at 05:40 PM..

08-22-2010, 07:00 PM	#38
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Absolutely it will, especially if you're trying to interrupt a pee in the wrong place. It's like a human baby. Babies pee and poop all the time when they're being carried. What works best is a strict schedule. I found a great post for you on pee pad training. I've posted it below (can't seem to find a link for it, but you can find it on the Rat Terrier forum at Rat-Terrier.com and look for the thread "Potty Training Help! (Very frustrated and sad!)" in the Training section) Here's a great article on crate training, which it looks like you've started : http://www.humanesociety.org/animals..._training.html "I'm not a huge advocate of piddle pad training, but if that's the route you want to go down.... it can be done. One thing I caution everyone about is not trying to train a puppy to both (piddle pads and going outside) because it's way too confusing for the puppy and being inconsistent in our efforts is not fair to the pup. So the first thing you need to do is to decide on which route you wish to take with potty training efforts. (1) Do you want her to be pad trained or (2) do you wish for her to be trained to do her business outdoors. That's step # 1... a decision you need to make. Assuming that your decision is to go the piddle pad route based on your initial thread... let's talk about that a little. The basic concept is that a pup prefers to do her business where she did it before... wherever that might be. I would invest in an x-pen ... which will keep the pup confined but also allow some freedom. You don't want to allow your pup to run free (and out of sight) before understanding where she is to relieve herself. Make sure this space is visible to you, and preferably in a tiled or easily cleaned area. You don't want your pup to feel punished or left alone in this area, and you also don't want to be cleaning up "accidents" on carpet. At one corner of the confined area, place a piddle pad. These pads smell like pee to the puppy (not to humans though!!), which makes her want to go there. Over time, you can cut these pads down, but at first, use a whole pad so there's a better chance of your pup peeing on the actual pad. The pad should be as far away from their sleeping and eating area as possible within the space as your puppy will instinctively want to keep the sleeping and eating area clean. If you want... put the crate in there and leave it open so she can go in and out when and if she wants. If you catch your pup in a squat off her pad, interrupt her quickly (not negatively - just a simple "ah-ah" will do), lift her up and move her to her pad. When she pees there, praise her big time. Clean up any mess off the pad quickly and quietly - being sure to use a urine smell removing cleaner. As your pup seems to be getting the hang of peeing on the pads in her confined area, you can expand her space, but do it gradually. You may want to put multiple pads around the areas you want to let her explore, so that if she needs to go now, she can easily find a spot. This will also allow you to move her quickly if you catch her going off her pad. I think the key to success in ANY potty training effort is praise. Supervise her... praise her when she's successful in offering the behavior you are seeking. And remember to NEVER punish her for pottying somewhere she shouldn't unless you see her in the actual act of doing so. And even then... do it verbally with a firm "NO !!! " and never spank her. Not saying you do... or that you will... just saying I've known folks to do that and it can yield disastrous results. I just added a six-month old female rattie to my pack. She's been litter-box trained. I don't do litter boxes, so I'm having to now REtrain her to go outside. At this point she stays crated a lot, but as she becomes more consistent with pottying outside, she'll earn more free time outside of the crate. It's good and beneficial to set boundaries like this for your pup. They need to learn what is expected of them at an early age. You can leave her crated if you want.. up to an hour per month of age plus an hour. So if she's 4 months old you should be able to leave her crated for 5 hours. It won't hurt her... pups sleep a lot anyway. Crates are wonderful aids in potty training. " __________________ Make More Money with Cams and Dating at FFN.com! email: [email protected]

08-22-2010, 07:15 PM	#39
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	Thanks so much Elli.. my problem is that my guy wont pee on his crate, but as soon as I open the door outside, he pees on the carpet on my floor.. if i had a yard, or my door led outside, potty training would be 100x easier.. When he was peeing on the carpet in the lobby outside, i yelled out No and stopped him, but before i got downstairs it took few minutes.. i doubt he knows the whole point.. its tough im not sure what to do.lol.. im walking him a lot and when he pees i tell him i praise him and give him lots of treats.. the problem is he PEES as soon as he leaves the door of my apartment, and it takes too long to get him downstairs.. ideally id like him to pee/poop outside.. i dont wanna use pads honestly __________________ _________________ I am the best

08-22-2010, 07:17 PM	#40
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	also, this last accident, i knew he wanted to pee! he was squatting and trying to sniff and pee inside, so i took him outside, before the elevator came, he already peed.. what am i supposed to do in that situation? __________________ _________________ I am the best

08-22-2010, 07:47 PM	#42
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	when they get older,they can hold it for a long time. Im teaching moo to ring a bell when she has to go out.

08-22-2010, 08:04 PM	#44
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	yeah hes starting to feel comfortable in it.. my problem still is that i gotta figure out a way to make him hold his pee till we go downstairs.. im honestly thinking of just carrying him downstairs everytime then leash him and walk him while outside.. whats the downside to this? i honestly think he is less likely to pee/poop on me if he is being carried __________________ _________________ I am the best

08-22-2010, 08:19 PM	#45
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	lol he woke up from a nap, i took him outside, while waiting for the elevator he peed again.. pfft.. the guy is confused.. i told him no and tried to stop him but that doesnt help... i need him to wait till we are completely outside.. __________________ _________________ I am the best

08-22-2010, 08:23 PM	#46
xxweekxx Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6,780	im thinking, what if i train to pee on pads indoors, then start taking him outside to same spot and put the pad down there for him to pee, eventually keep reducing the size of pad till it completely disappears and he pees there.. will this work? if my dog keeps peeing here im gonna get in trouble soon.. im in a high end luxury condo, nobody wants dog pee on their floor lobby __________________ _________________ I am the best

08-22-2010, 08:29 PM	#47
Elli Reach for those stars! Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 17,991	Yes, no peeing in the crate! With Daisy we had to stuff an entire banker's box upside down inside her crate until she was 6 months old to fill up the extra space! Sure, I see no reason not to carry him until you're outside. That will reinforce the 'this isn't appropriate' feeling. But realize that accidents will definitely happen. The key is consistency! For our pup's first month or so it went like this and we had surprisingly few accidents: pee: 6am (or when doggy wakes up) back to bed with NO PLAYING OR CUDDLING until your regular wakeup time pee: 8am (or when YOU wake up) breakfast pee within 10 minutes of finishing breakfast exercise (at least 15 mins, increasing with age) pee within 60 mins of finishing breakfast pee every hour after that lunch (puppies metabolize very quickly and have small tummies. three meals a day until they're a few months old is a great idea) pee within 15 mins of finishing lunch pee within 60 mins of finishing lunch pee every hour dinner pee within 15 mins of finishing dinner exercise (increasing with age) pee within 60 mins of dinner pee every hour pee right before bed probably a pee at 2-4 am If he has to pee in the middle of the night, there should be no extra playing or talking. Just quietly put in the pee spot, say the command 'go pee' or whatever, and lots of praise when done. Then straight back to the crate/bed. This should not be a ruse for playtime. Good luck!! Like I mentioned before, at one month of age, a pee every hour. At two months, every two hours. By five months he should be able to hold his bladder for five hours. The more consistent you are, the fewer accidents you'll have! __________________ Make More Money with Cams and Dating at FFN.com! email: [email protected]

08-22-2010, 09:22 PM	#48
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	elli I think your site is down I clicked on the link on your sig HTTP - 500 Internal Server Error The page you are attempting to load returned an error.

08-22-2010, 09:28 PM	#49
jigg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,527	dang missed the hot shots! puppy is cuteness though