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Gutterboy · 01-08-2003, 01:03 AM

Onehunnit

cherrylula · 01-08-2003, 01:15 AM

With all his publicity HM should be a fucking design millionaire by now.

Its pretty simple, just pay your fucking designers.

but honestly, I'm pretty much convinced this guy is nothing but a con artist, and will continue to say whatever makes him look the best.

Bottom line, anyone who trusts anything HM says is a fool.

The thing that baffles me most is he takes a 50% commission, which is extremely high, and still can't pay people. WTF?

Must be crack.

And for the record, I am only posting in here because I have a friend who has done work for HM, and been put off with payment as well.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-08-2003, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Thor
hey hungryman
You have been in this biz for a long time, do you really think its wise to fuck people up like that ?
Kelly is a good guy, give him his money and maybe people will allow you to stay in the adult business.
Remember that people will always recognise your design work, so its not like you can return in a month without anybody knowing who you are.

Thank you for your comments Thor ... I am not going to "disappear" and then come back in a month as somebody else brother ....

I am answering to the charges, and I am doing my best to straighten them out in as timely a manner as possible.

Thanks for your concern.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-08-2003, 01:32 AM

Kelly/Shephanie:

Could I suggest that if you would like me to be able to pay you the money owed, that you do not go throwing dirt at every board that comes to mind ???

You want money from me ... yet you are doing everything in your power to prevent me from earning money to pay you with ... I don't understand ...

pink_in_the_middle · 01-08-2003, 01:36 AM

quote:
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Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-

an arrangement similar to that DID cross my mind Kelly ... but I do not think it needs to resort to that
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May I ask WHY do you think it doesn't need to resort to that ???

NOW WILL YOU ADDRESS MY QUESTION FOR THE THIRD TIME ???

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-08-2003, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pink_in_the_middle
quote:

May I ask WHY do you think it doesn't need to resort to that ???

NOW WILL YOU ADDRESS MY QUESTION FOR THE THIRD TIME ???

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
C'mon ... in all seriousness ... do you go to store to shop, and then pay your bill to their debtors directly ???

pink_in_the_middle · 01-08-2003, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
Kelly/Shephanie:

Could I suggest that if you would like me to be able to pay you the money owed, that you do not go throwing dirt at every board that comes to mind ???

You want money from me ... yet you are doing everything in your power to prevent me from earning money to pay you with ... I don't understand ...

Hungry Kelly warned you of what was going to happen if he didn't receive his money by Saturday. I guess you didn't think he had the guts/brains to do it.

Yes I posted on a few boards warning ppl about you

You want to dip into Kelly's pockets then I'll rip yours out.
"THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX"
Since everyone knows all about you on the boards you might want to think about getting a job outside of the www.

Mutt · 01-08-2003, 04:32 AM

I don't believe this. When I woke up today i wanted to find out who the deadbeat that stiffed Kelly was. I had a feeling it was this Hungryman again but i almost didn't think it was possible for some guy who had just been the center of a similar melodrama to be retarded enough to keep on doing this.

Jesus Christ.....and the sickest fucking thing about it is that he's fucking asking for sympathy in every post he makes and more work? This is a sad motherfucker. He doesn't even seem to understand what he's doing is wrong.

Do you see that Kelly has three kids? What if those kids were depending on the money their dad worked 24 hours straight for to be fed this week or for medicine? WHO THE FUCK GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO USE OTHER PEOPLE TO WORK YOURSELF OUT OF A HOLE YOU DUG FOR YOURSELF!?!?!

Lensman should ban this guy. GFY is supposed to be a place to hang out but it's also a place for people to do business and network. If a person is known to be a con artist he shouldn't be allowed to use GFY as a place to find more victims.

GET THIS STRAIGHT ........ YOU HIRED KELLY KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE MONEY YOU WOULD RECEIVE FOR HIS WORK WOULD NOT GO TO KELLY BUT TO OTHER DEBTORS OF YOURS.........YOU PLANNED TO PAY KELLY WAY DOWN THE LINE IF AT ALL..............THAT IS FRAUD! MOST LIKELY IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE BUT I AIN'T A LAWYER. YOU ARE A COMPLETE WACKJOB!

YOU'RE IN DEBT? WORK FOR THE $$$ YOURSELF! GO PUMP GAS, MAKE DONUTS, SUCK DICK BEHIND A GLORYHOLE, WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHEN YOU'RE OUTTA DEBT, COME BACK AND START A WEB DESIGN BUSINESS.

FATPad · 01-08-2003, 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-
C'mon ... in all seriousness ... do you go to store to shop, and then pay your bill to their debtors directly ???

What does that have to do with them not wanting you to be involved in touching their money?

Man, this is lame. Steph and Kelly work hard and you're trying to make them look like the bad guys.

greentea · 01-08-2003, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
I don't believe this. When I woke up today i wanted to find out who the deadbeat that stiffed Kelly was. I had a feeling it was this Hungryman again but i almost didn't think it was possible for some guy who had just been the center of a similar melodrama to be retarded enough to keep on doing this.

Jesus Christ.....and the sickest fucking thing about it is that he's fucking asking for sympathy in every post he makes and more work? This is a sad motherfucker. He doesn't even seem to understand what he's doing is wrong.

Do you see that Kelly has three kids? What if those kids were depending on the money their dad worked 24 hours straight for to be fed this week or for medicine? WHO THE FUCK GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO USE OTHER PEOPLE TO WORK YOURSELF OUT OF A HOLE YOU DUG FOR YOURSELF!?!?!

Lensman should ban this guy. GFY is supposed to be a place to hang out but it's also a place for people to do business and network. If a person is known to be a con artist he shouldn't be allowed to use GFY as a place to find more victims.

GET THIS STRAIGHT ........ YOU HIRED KELLY KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE MONEY YOU WOULD RECEIVE FOR HIS WORK WOULD NOT GO TO KELLY BUT TO OTHER DEBTORS OF YOURS.........YOU PLANNED TO PAY KELLY WAY DOWN THE LINE IF AT ALL..............THAT IS FRAUD! MOST LIKELY IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE BUT I AIN'T A LAWYER. YOU ARE A COMPLETE WACKJOB!

YOU'RE IN DEBT? WORK FOR THE $$$ YOURSELF! GO PUMP GAS, MAKE DONUTS, SUCK DICK BEHIND A GLORYHOLE, WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHEN YOU'RE OUTTA DEBT, COME BACK AND START A WEB DESIGN BUSINESS.

Very well said mutt and totally agree!

Mutt · 01-08-2003, 05:16 AM

holy shit.......... i just read another thread and there's another designer he's stiffed. It's pathological with this mental patient.
He's a narcissist - he believes the world revolves around him and his problems, other people's problems or rights mean nothing to him because his life is the only who counts, so he has no problems hurting other people if it helps him get ahead, or get outta debt in his case. That's a sociopath by definition.

He keeps saying 'i could start over with a new nickname personality........but oh no........that's not my style........i ain't going to disappear'......hahahahahah.............do you see how pompous and ridiculous this remark is? He wants to be patted on the back because he's got the balls not to disappear and keep on fucking over innocent hard working people.

He never considers that there is another option - the option decent people would know is the only option. Work himself out of debt with his own two hand and not drawing innocent people into his fucked up world.

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-08-2003, 05:29 AM

Mutt :

I named all my debtors, and the amount owed to them.
I fully intend on digging myself out of this mess ....

I am not looking for your "pat on the back", but thanks for your input ...

as matter od fact, by the time Kelly wakes up, he should have a $99 paypal that I am going to flip over to him for a gallery order I just got not even 10 minutes ago ...

I know ALOT of people here think very little of me ... but I have my pride, so I will dig myself out of this mess ...

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-08-2003, 05:42 AM

OK ... I am catching severe shit from my GF now for spending as much time here as I have ...

I have answered the allegations against me, and now have some galleries to build ...

Anybody who needs to get hold of me can do so on ICQ. thanks

Mutt · 01-08-2003, 05:57 AM

you'll dig yourself out of your mess?

NO, Kelly and TeenAngel and god knows how many others are going to dig you out of your mess. Don't you see how wrong that is? Why didn't you have the honesty to tell these people that they would be last in a long line of your creditors? If they wanted to still do the work knowing that they wouldn't get paid for awhile if at all that would have been their decision. What you did is wrong and if you pay them in 6 weeks or 6 months IT WAS STILL WRONG!

Nobody's picking on you, you seem to have this martyr's attitude that everybody on GFY is picking on you and that you're such a nice guy. Nice guys DO NOT do this to people. Why can't you go to your real life good friends and family and let them bail you out of debt, why is it that you use Internet people to do it? Because it's easier in cyberspace and I'm pretty sure your family has seen this movie many many times before.

JayJay · 01-08-2003, 05:57 AM

you seem to be forgetting you also owe me money for designs

-=HUNGRYMAN=- · 01-08-2003, 05:59 AM

How did I know you would be here .... hehehe

LAME

I can think of a few things one might think I "owe" you my friend ... however money is not one of them ...

JayJay · 01-08-2003, 06:09 AM

are you saying you don't owe me for designs?
(think very carefully before you answer that)

CDSmith · 01-08-2003, 06:12 AM

The practise of taking payment in full and then keeping the portion of the payment meant for the designer is so aberrant, so morally wrong to me on so many levels, it's...it's insane. Doing that in business is like commiting financial suicide, because you do it once and it snowballs.....until you are using current designer's money to pay off designers from 6 months ago.

It will truly be interesting to see how long it takes to "dig yourself out of this hole" my friend. I honestly hope you find a way, but you just might find it becoming very difficult to find decent designers that will take the chance of working for you. Man, you make your bed, and there comes a time when you gotta lie in it.

BJ · 01-08-2003, 06:13 AM

show us some stuff you bought...im bored

CDSmith · 01-08-2003, 06:19 AM

And, as I recall Paul, the last time you addressed one of my posts it was on that sarcastic bastards board, where you said that myself and teen angel were "whining about an apology"...... funny how shit like this comes full circle, isn't it?

All it will take to get me to shut up about this forever is for Teen Angel to ICQ me and tell me the following:

"CD, hungryman has begun making regular small payments to me. At this rate he will have paid me in full (plus interest) in XX months"

....and I never hear that a payment was missed.

That will do it. Any chance of this happening anytime soon? And don't think I'm singling you out, because pensfan/bucknaked is going to be hearing from me as well, trust me. Same with Traci Daily. Some of this shit is beyond unethical and fast approaching class-action suit material.

machineg · 01-08-2003, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt

He keeps saying 'i could start over with a new nickname personality........but oh no........that's not my style........i ain't going to disappear'......hahahahahah.............do you see how pompous and ridiculous this remark is? He wants to be patted on the back because he's got the balls not to disappear and keep on fucking over innocent hard working people.

He never considers that there is another option - the option decent people would know is the only option. Work himself out of debt with his own two hand and not drawing innocent people into his fucked up world.

this is very well put .

machineg · 01-08-2003, 07:53 AM

Okay ..
I have been in contact with hungryman .
as well as one of his clients and there has been arangements made.

I have also added my button to hungrymans resource page. which he agreed upon , then removed.
.
Grubproductions: okay man .. whatever.. just send the money when you have it and keep my link on your resource page until then . I think thats fair
HUNGRYMAN: send me a 120 x 60 button ... I will do that
Grubproductions: its already there ;)
HUNGRYMAN: ???????????????????????????
Grubproductions: check it out for yourself
Grubproductions: I dont wanna play , just want my cash .
HUNGRYMAN: dood ... first of all it is bigger than 120 x 66

secont of all how can I compete with that link right there ... lets be sensible
HUNGRYMAN: I KNOW !!
Grubproductions: its like 3 pixels to big ,,, and on the bottom of your page . it shouldnt be a problem considering the circumstances
HUNGRYMAN: you there ???

I will post to let you all know when the debt has been cleared .
and hungry Ill send you a 120x60 button .. I also think the other designers should get the same treatment . as they are owed even more than me

pink_in_the_middle · 01-08-2003, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
I don't believe this. When I woke up today i wanted to find out who the deadbeat that stiffed Kelly was. I had a feeling it was this Hungryman again but i almost didn't think it was possible for some guy who had just been the center of a similar melodrama to be retarded enough to keep on doing this.

Jesus Christ.....and the sickest fucking thing about it is that he's fucking asking for sympathy in every post he makes and more work? This is a sad motherfucker. He doesn't even seem to understand what he's doing is wrong.

Do you see that Kelly has three kids? What if those kids were depending on the money their dad worked 24 hours straight for to be fed this week or for medicine? WHO THE FUCK GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO USE OTHER PEOPLE TO WORK YOURSELF OUT OF A HOLE YOU DUG FOR YOURSELF!?!?!

Lensman should ban this guy. GFY is supposed to be a place to hang out but it's also a place for people to do business and network. If a person is known to be a con artist he shouldn't be allowed to use GFY as a place to find more victims.

GET THIS STRAIGHT ........ YOU HIRED KELLY KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE MONEY YOU WOULD RECEIVE FOR HIS WORK WOULD NOT GO TO KELLY BUT TO OTHER DEBTORS OF YOURS.........YOU PLANNED TO PAY KELLY WAY DOWN THE LINE IF AT ALL..............THAT IS FRAUD! MOST LIKELY IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE BUT I AIN'T A LAWYER. YOU ARE A COMPLETE WACKJOB!

YOU'RE IN DEBT? WORK FOR THE $$$ YOURSELF! GO PUMP GAS, MAKE DONUTS, SUCK DICK BEHIND A GLORYHOLE, WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHEN YOU'RE OUTTA DEBT, COME BACK AND START A WEB DESIGN BUSINESS.

Very well said Mutt

[The Leader] · 01-08-2003, 10:36 AM

This is too fucking funny, after all the shit a couple weeks ago this scugbag screws even more designers.

Quote:

Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=-

I owe Rikki-Lee ... and I owe Nem
BOTH amounts larger than yours ...

And I must give credit where due .... I have explained the situation to them, and they are handling it much more professionally than this ...

No way you just called someone unprofessional, no way.

And trying to get more business isn't going to happen. Why the fuck would anyone consider giving you money? Would anyone believe you'd use it to pay your depts and not spend it on coke or whatever you waste other peoples money on? Unless they were sending it directly to the designers you owe, which for some reason you don't think is a good idea.

Hungry, your design days are over, face it. You had a good scam going for a while, probably paid some bills with it while doing no work, but it has come to an end. Don't say you need more design work before you can pay up, that won't happen. Time to start handing out resumes to McD's. Time to start selling your shit to pay your depts, I'm sure you have a car, tv, computer, etc. Guess what, you owe these people money, sell those things and pay them back immediatly. Be a fucking man for once in your life.

Sly_RJ · 01-08-2003, 10:40 AM

Kelly, did you receive $99 this morning?

Anyone looking for galleries, check out Kelly's work. Tight shit. Some nice discounts too.

machineg · 01-08-2003, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Kelly, did you receive $99 this morning?

No .. but I was contacted by someone who said they will pay me directly for hungrymans templates ..

only time will tell .

machineg · 01-08-2003, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Voodoo
You are asking the age old question my friend.
Which comes first... The Chicken or the Egg?

Some clients would have you believe that paying post production is always best.

However your situation, is the exact reason that so many designers are going to full payment up front.

I would tend to agree with a client's perspective that post production payment is how it should be done... IF, it were in person, and you had direct contact with them... However, online... It's a different story.

the fact is, when you buy a couch do you take it home and sit on it before you pay ?
why the heck should our work be any different .

CumSensei · 01-08-2003, 12:15 PM

Jesus....this is all mad.

Why not let hungryman pay and this will be over.

He said he did know he owned them money and he also said he would pay them.

What do all you guys have to do with any of this?

It´s not your bizz. It´s between Hungryman and his designers.

So what if he outsource work on designers and say he make galleries himselfe.

Any company do that shit when they have alot of work.

Is it not more important that you get your work delivered?

Hope you guys can clear this out soon so we don´t have to read these long threads ;)

Cya.

[The Leader] · 01-08-2003, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CumSensei
Jesus....this is all mad.

Why not let hungryman pay and this will be over.

He said he did know he owned them money and he also said he would pay them.

What do all you guys have to do with any of this?

It´s not your bizz. It´s between Hungryman and his designers.

So what if he outsource work on designers and say he make galleries himselfe.

Any company do that shit when they have alot of work.

Is it not more important that you get your work delivered?

Hope you guys can clear this out soon so we don´t have to read these long threads ;)

Cya.

You obviously haven't read much of this situation, this is not a one time short term dept. It seems to be this guys business plan to take money for designs and not pay the designers. He's a scam artist. These people are owed money for many months, they contact him many times, but he ignores them until they post here. I'm sure these people are also pretty sure they're never going to get their money. You would rather have this kept quiet so he can go on doing it to other designers? Wake up, this has to be done.

cherrylula · 01-08-2003, 01:31 PM

I swear, all of these fucking brokers who are screwing designers out of their pay deserve to have their teeth kicked in and beaten until they cry.

They think because its internet they can hide. Well the reality is that it will catch up to them, and they will suffer in the most serious of ways.

I fucking hate to see people rip off anothers honest creative work and not even flinch. And these same people hop around to different boards and act as if they have their shit together, and lie.

Bad karma will no doubt be on their backs. May it hurt. Bad.

quiet · 01-08-2003, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I swear, all of these fucking brokers who are screwing designers out of their pay deserve to have their teeth kicked in and beaten until they cry.

They think because its internet they can hide. Well the reality is that it will catch up to them, and they will suffer in the most serious of ways.

I fucking hate to see people rip off anothers honest creative work and not even flinch. And these same people hop around to different boards and act as if they have their shit together, and lie.

Bad karma will no doubt be on their backs. May it hurt. Bad.

amen

machineg · 01-08-2003, 01:55 PM

many people are ICQ ing me to make sure the work isnt theirs ..

I have uploaded the works here http://www.adultgalleryservice.com/crap.htm
you can see.

please remember that these galleries WERE paid for by the original client .. localG pays his bills.

as does archer, from what I hear .

but hungryman hasn't .

Voodoo · 01-08-2003, 02:20 PM

Quote:

TAKEN FROM ICQ LOG:

HUNGRYMAN 11/13/20 9:43 AM
Um .... I pay 100% after the design is done
... I find designers stick to deadlines better
when I pay in this manner ... nothing personal

-----You pay 0% after the design is done. Go back to school and take remedial math.

Voodoo 11/13/20 9:51 AM
Nothing personal taken. I just require it
upfront for small projects....

Voodoo 11/13/20 9:52 AM
LOL... I'm sure you understand.

Voodoo 11/13/20 9:53 AM
Although, if it were a steady thing, I might
possibly consider it.

-----I retract.

Voodoo 11/13/20 9:54 AM
but the first few would definitely have to be
upfront. Once a trust has been built, it could
be bumped to post-production.

....

HUNGRYMAN 11/13/20 9:56 AM
no can do bro ... im sorry
my business is dependant on deadlines, and
designers do not keep deadlines when they have
already been paid :-/

-----Just as you don't pay when designers stick to deadlines. Nice HM. Real Nice! (can you feel the sarcasm?)

....
HUNGRYMAN 11/13/20 9:59 AM
Vid Vicious is my VP of Operations .... he was
the one to impliment that policy, and I WILL
NOT over step his decisions .. kinda defeats
the purpose of having an executive

-----So, Vid implemented the policy to where you stick your dirty hands in the cash before paying the designers?

quiet · 01-08-2003, 02:25 PM

Quote:

Vid Vicious is my VP of Operations .... he was the one to impliment that policy, and I WILL NOT over step his decisions .. kinda defeats the purpose of having an executive

hehe

KnightMare · 01-08-2003, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Voodoo

That's some funny shit!
Hungryman is a fucking retard!

CDSmith · 01-08-2003, 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KnightMare
Hungryman is a fucking retard!

Well I wouldn't go that far. Anyone who's talked to him directly knows he isn't a stupid man by any stretch. But he has overstepped himself and made some fatally poor business decisions.

I meant what I said before, I truly hope HM keeps his word and "digs himself out of this hole" he's dug, and get's past this BS. I would like nothing more than to see these debts cleared and this scandal done and over with, because after that it would only be a matter of time until all is forgiven, if not forgotten.

Fletch XXX · 01-08-2003, 03:33 PM

have you guys never watched Americas Most Wanted? Geez.

Textbook copy of a 'Con Artist'

This guy even gets people feeling sorry for him again and again, just like a conman.

Think about it.

I see through his shit, always have, and he thinks I have some vendetta against him, ive dealt with Hollywood con artists for yeatrs, and this guy is nothing more than just that.

Voodoo · 01-08-2003, 06:51 PM

mrthumbs · 01-08-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Kelly, did you receive $99 this morning?

Anyone looking for galleries, check out Kelly's work. Tight shit. Some nice discounts too.

very true

JayJay · 01-08-2003, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherrylula
I swear, all of these fucking brokers who are screwing designers out of their pay deserve to have their teeth kicked in and beaten until they cry.

How do I apply for this Job?

scorpy · 01-09-2003, 07:34 AM

Kelly... did you get your money ?

machineg · 01-09-2003, 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by scorpy
Kelly... did you get your money ?

not as of yet..
arrangements have been made for about 1/2 ..

175 to go .

Praguer · 01-09-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by machineg
See .. heres the thing ,
I want the person to know that even though I am in the total right to do so ... I feel bad doing it .

You are too nice. Not a good thing.

machineg · 01-09-2003, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Praguer

You are too nice. Not a good thing.

I want it known that I like hungryman .
he is a great guy and full of great shit .. however, he repeatedly fails to pay his designers and hasnt learned yet. After his name being dragged through the mud time after time .. he still fails to pay .

I felt like shit comming to GFY about it .. but that was what was neccasary , in the end I will ultimatly get paid and hungry will be free of debts to his designers . that will be a better day for him . as bad as it seems now .

it has become overkill and I am sorry for that . I never meant for this post to hit any other board than GFY .

the truth is hungry is a good man , just needs to fuguire some stuff out for his own good .

the amount of cash wasnt large at all .. its the whole principal behind the payment . to pump out a large amount of work and not get payed for it is a drag . for anyone .

to compare the amount of time it takes to submit a few galleries and not get payed by a bad sponsor is not near the same as to spend hours of your time and creativity , to not get payment , credit .. or anything for that matter .. I see a large difference there .

hungry . you know I am not aiming to destroy you . I have told you this personally . I just want the amount that is owed for my work.

nike · 01-09-2003, 11:09 AM

c'mon if he was a con man, that is a pitiful amount to con anyone out of.

the guy is just in over his head, he's already said he earns barely anything.

I realize it's not about the money owed, but the principle, but even then I think it's a little harsh to publicly flog somebody over under $2000. (Christ Sony Music have owed me three time that for over 3 months now, they'll pay eventually).

still being gfy, I guess the marks will heal, and he'll be able to re-enter 'normal' society when this is all forgotten.

Teen Angel · 01-09-2003, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by scorpy
For me, if the client doesn't pay me once the design is done... First he doesn't get the design, and then i'd throw his name everywhere for people to know he's a bad client. Have no time for that game.

Hey nice button! hehehehe

Teen Angel · 01-09-2003, 08:15 PM

HM think you should stop posting yu are just adding fuel to the fir. Just do your work... this entire thread is just becoming VERY repedative.

Sly_RJ · 01-09-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teen Angel
HM think you should stop posting yu are just adding fuel to the fir. Just do your work... this entire thread is just becoming VERY repedative.

In the ass thread, was that picture really you?

If you design half as good as you look, I'm hiring you!

Voodoo · 01-10-2003, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Teen Angel
HM think you should stop posting yu are just adding fuel to the fir. Just do your work... this entire thread is just becoming VERY repedative.

FYI: Your "ORDER" page is broken:
http://www.rlmwebcreations.com/xxx/order.html

Just thought you should know.

localG · 01-10-2003, 06:05 PM

Holly fucking shit ... first off i dont like to see my name in threads like this..

I also dont like to piss on someone but hungry man you need to gotto buisness edicate class man.

After all the bullshit on the boards i was willing to give you a shot. i payed you 50% up front told you the dead line was the following friday and you said no problem you need the money and they would be done asap. That did not happin it was like pulling teeth to get the shit done. after all kinds of bull shit u got them done.

Dude im sorry for you problems .. but we all have them in one way or another... By you not paying you subs means your GREEDY... Im sorry in buisness the buissness owner always suffers becuase he has to pay every one before him self.. but i guess you special...

hungry man was paid in full on this job and there was no waiting at all for his money.

I also have no problem with work being farmed out . thats how you grow a buisnness. But not paying your subs is the fast road to being outta buisness..

so kelly i would be more then happy to pay you for the work you did on the galleries and ill collect my money from hungry man...

You did a tight ass job on them ..

peace
localG

01-08-2003, 01:32 AM	#104
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	Kelly/Shephanie: Could I suggest that if you would like me to be able to pay you the money owed, that you do not go throwing dirt at every board that comes to mind ??? You want money from me ... yet you are doing everything in your power to prevent me from earning money to pay you with ... I don't understand ... __________________

01-08-2003, 04:32 AM	#108
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	I don't believe this. When I woke up today i wanted to find out who the deadbeat that stiffed Kelly was. I had a feeling it was this Hungryman again but i almost didn't think it was possible for some guy who had just been the center of a similar melodrama to be retarded enough to keep on doing this. Jesus Christ.....and the sickest fucking thing about it is that he's fucking asking for sympathy in every post he makes and more work? This is a sad motherfucker. He doesn't even seem to understand what he's doing is wrong. Do you see that Kelly has three kids? What if those kids were depending on the money their dad worked 24 hours straight for to be fed this week or for medicine? WHO THE FUCK GAVE YOU THE RIGHT TO USE OTHER PEOPLE TO WORK YOURSELF OUT OF A HOLE YOU DUG FOR YOURSELF!?!?! Lensman should ban this guy. GFY is supposed to be a place to hang out but it's also a place for people to do business and network. If a person is known to be a con artist he shouldn't be allowed to use GFY as a place to find more victims. GET THIS STRAIGHT ........ YOU HIRED KELLY KNOWING FULL WELL THAT THE MONEY YOU WOULD RECEIVE FOR HIS WORK WOULD NOT GO TO KELLY BUT TO OTHER DEBTORS OF YOURS.........YOU PLANNED TO PAY KELLY WAY DOWN THE LINE IF AT ALL..............THAT IS FRAUD! MOST LIKELY IT'S A CRIMINAL OFFENSE BUT I AIN'T A LAWYER. YOU ARE A COMPLETE WACKJOB! YOU'RE IN DEBT? WORK FOR THE $$$ YOURSELF! GO PUMP GAS, MAKE DONUTS, SUCK DICK BEHIND A GLORYHOLE, WHATEVER IT TAKES, WHEN YOU'RE OUTTA DEBT, COME BACK AND START A WEB DESIGN BUSINESS. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-08-2003, 05:16 AM	#111
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	holy shit.......... i just read another thread and there's another designer he's stiffed. It's pathological with this mental patient. He's a narcissist - he believes the world revolves around him and his problems, other people's problems or rights mean nothing to him because his life is the only who counts, so he has no problems hurting other people if it helps him get ahead, or get outta debt in his case. That's a sociopath by definition. He keeps saying 'i could start over with a new nickname personality........but oh no........that's not my style........i ain't going to disappear'......hahahahahah.............do you see how pompous and ridiculous this remark is? He wants to be patted on the back because he's got the balls not to disappear and keep on fucking over innocent hard working people. He never considers that there is another option - the option decent people would know is the only option. Work himself out of debt with his own two hand and not drawing innocent people into his fucked up world. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-08-2003, 05:29 AM	#112
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	Mutt : I named all my debtors, and the amount owed to them. I fully intend on digging myself out of this mess .... I am not looking for your "pat on the back", but thanks for your input ... as matter od fact, by the time Kelly wakes up, he should have a $99 paypal that I am going to flip over to him for a gallery order I just got not even 10 minutes ago ... I know ALOT of people here think very little of me ... but I have my pride, so I will dig myself out of this mess ... __________________

01-08-2003, 05:42 AM	#113
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	OK ... I am catching severe shit from my GF now for spending as much time here as I have ... I have answered the allegations against me, and now have some galleries to build ... Anybody who needs to get hold of me can do so on ICQ. thanks __________________

01-08-2003, 01:03 AM	#101
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	Onehunnit

01-08-2003, 01:15 AM	#102
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	With all his publicity HM should be a fucking design millionaire by now. Its pretty simple, just pay your fucking designers. but honestly, I'm pretty much convinced this guy is nothing but a con artist, and will continue to say whatever makes him look the best. Bottom line, anyone who trusts anything HM says is a fool. The thing that baffles me most is he takes a 50% commission, which is extremely high, and still can't pay people. WTF? Must be crack. And for the record, I am only posting in here because I have a friend who has done work for HM, and been put off with payment as well.

01-08-2003, 01:36 AM	#105
pink_in_the_middle Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: O Canada Posts: 4,503	quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by -=HUNGRYMAN=- an arrangement similar to that DID cross my mind Kelly ... but I do not think it needs to resort to that -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- May I ask WHY do you think it doesn't need to resort to that ??? NOW WILL YOU ADDRESS MY QUESTION FOR THE THIRD TIME ???

01-08-2003, 05:57 AM	#114
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	you'll dig yourself out of your mess? NO, Kelly and TeenAngel and god knows how many others are going to dig you out of your mess. Don't you see how wrong that is? Why didn't you have the honesty to tell these people that they would be last in a long line of your creditors? If they wanted to still do the work knowing that they wouldn't get paid for awhile if at all that would have been their decision. What you did is wrong and if you pay them in 6 weeks or 6 months IT WAS STILL WRONG! Nobody's picking on you, you seem to have this martyr's attitude that everybody on GFY is picking on you and that you're such a nice guy. Nice guys DO NOT do this to people. Why can't you go to your real life good friends and family and let them bail you out of debt, why is it that you use Internet people to do it? Because it's easier in cyberspace and I'm pretty sure your family has seen this movie many many times before. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

01-08-2003, 05:57 AM	#115
JayJay Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,739	you seem to be forgetting you also owe me money for designs

01-08-2003, 05:59 AM	#116
-=HUNGRYMAN=- Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Between your mamma's legs Posts: 4,753	How did I know you would be here .... hehehe LAME I can think of a few things one might think I "owe" you my friend ... however money is not one of them ... __________________

01-08-2003, 06:09 AM	#117
JayJay Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 3,739	are you saying you don't owe me for designs? (think very carefully before you answer that)

01-08-2003, 06:12 AM	#118
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	The practise of taking payment in full and then keeping the portion of the payment meant for the designer is so aberrant, so morally wrong to me on so many levels, it's...it's insane. Doing that in business is like commiting financial suicide, because you do it once and it snowballs.....until you are using current designer's money to pay off designers from 6 months ago. It will truly be interesting to see how long it takes to "dig yourself out of this hole" my friend. I honestly hope you find a way, but you just might find it becoming very difficult to find decent designers that will take the chance of working for you. Man, you make your bed, and there comes a time when you gotta lie in it. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

01-08-2003, 06:13 AM	#119
BJ Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: asia Posts: 5,590	show us some stuff you bought...im bored

01-08-2003, 06:19 AM	#120
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	And, as I recall Paul, the last time you addressed one of my posts it was on that sarcastic bastards board, where you said that myself and teen angel were "whining about an apology"...... funny how shit like this comes full circle, isn't it? All it will take to get me to shut up about this forever is for Teen Angel to ICQ me and tell me the following: "CD, hungryman has begun making regular small payments to me. At this rate he will have paid me in full (plus interest) in XX months" ....and I never hear that a payment was missed. That will do it. Any chance of this happening anytime soon? And don't think I'm singling you out, because pensfan/bucknaked is going to be hearing from me as well, trust me. Same with Traci Daily. Some of this shit is beyond unethical and fast approaching class-action suit material. __________________ *Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!* ALWAYS THE HIGHEST PAYOUTS: Big Bux/ImLive SIGNUP ON NOW!!! Put some PUSSYCA$H in your pocket. ICQ me at: 31024634

01-08-2003, 07:53 AM	#122
machineg Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,090	Okay .. I have been in contact with hungryman . as well as one of his clients and there has been arangements made. I have also added my button to hungrymans resource page. which he agreed upon , then removed. . Grubproductions: okay man .. whatever.. just send the money when you have it and keep my link on your resource page until then . I think thats fair HUNGRYMAN: send me a 120 x 60 button ... I will do that Grubproductions: its already there ;) HUNGRYMAN: ??????????????????????????? Grubproductions: check it out for yourself Grubproductions: I dont wanna play , just want my cash . HUNGRYMAN: dood ... first of all it is bigger than 120 x 66 secont of all how can I compete with that link right there ... lets be sensible HUNGRYMAN: I KNOW !! Grubproductions: its like 3 pixels to big ,,, and on the bottom of your page . it shouldnt be a problem considering the circumstances HUNGRYMAN: you there ??? I will post to let you all know when the debt has been cleared . and hungry Ill send you a 120x60 button .. I also think the other designers should get the same treatment . as they are owed even more than me __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by machineg; 01-08-2003 at 07:55 AM..

01-08-2003, 10:40 AM	#125
Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	Kelly, did you receive $99 this morning? Anyone looking for galleries, check out Kelly's work. Tight shit. Some nice discounts too. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

01-08-2003, 12:15 PM	#128
CumSensei Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 3,986	Jesus....this is all mad. Why not let hungryman pay and this will be over. He said he did know he owned them money and he also said he would pay them. What do all you guys have to do with any of this? It´s not your bizz. It´s between Hungryman and his designers. So what if he outsource work on designers and say he make galleries himselfe. Any company do that shit when they have alot of work. Is it not more important that you get your work delivered? Hope you guys can clear this out soon so we don´t have to read these long threads ;) Cya. __________________ CumSensei say: SEO traffic makes big boom boom.

01-08-2003, 01:31 PM	#130
cherrylula lol Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 15,969	I swear, all of these fucking brokers who are screwing designers out of their pay deserve to have their teeth kicked in and beaten until they cry. They think because its internet they can hide. Well the reality is that it will catch up to them, and they will suffer in the most serious of ways. I fucking hate to see people rip off anothers honest creative work and not even flinch. And these same people hop around to different boards and act as if they have their shit together, and lie. Bad karma will no doubt be on their backs. May it hurt. Bad.

01-08-2003, 01:55 PM	#132
machineg Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,090	many people are ICQ ing me to make sure the work isnt theirs .. I have uploaded the works here http://www.adultgalleryservice.com/crap.htm you can see. please remember that these galleries WERE paid for by the original client .. localG pays his bills. as does archer, from what I hear . but hungryman hasn't . __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Last edited by machineg; 01-08-2003 at 02:14 PM..

01-08-2003, 03:33 PM	#137
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	have you guys never watched Americas Most Wanted? Geez. Textbook copy of a 'Con Artist' This guy even gets people feeling sorry for him again and again, just like a conman. Think about it. I see through his shit, always have, and he thinks I have some vendetta against him, ive dealt with Hollywood con artists for yeatrs, and this guy is nothing more than just that. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

01-08-2003, 06:51 PM	#138
Voodoo ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Porn Valley, CA Posts: 10,590	__________________ "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

01-09-2003, 07:34 AM	#141
scorpy Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 457	Kelly... did you get your money ?

01-09-2003, 11:09 AM	#145
nike Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: London Posts: 189	c'mon if he was a con man, that is a pitiful amount to con anyone out of. the guy is just in over his head, he's already said he earns barely anything. I realize it's not about the money owed, but the principle, but even then I think it's a little harsh to publicly flog somebody over under $2000. (Christ Sony Music have owed me three time that for over 3 months now, they'll pay eventually). still being gfy, I guess the marks will heal, and he'll be able to re-enter 'normal' society when this is all forgotten.

01-09-2003, 08:15 PM	#147
Teen Angel Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: GOLD COAST, AUSTRALIA Posts: 305	HM think you should stop posting yu are just adding fuel to the fir. Just do your work... this entire thread is just becoming VERY repedative. __________________ ANGEL INEXPENSIVE DESIGNS!!!! icq:124633448 Emai:[email protected]

01-10-2003, 06:05 PM	#150
localG Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: new jersey Posts: 490	Holly fucking shit ... first off i dont like to see my name in threads like this.. I also dont like to piss on someone but hungry man you need to gotto buisness edicate class man. After all the bullshit on the boards i was willing to give you a shot. i payed you 50% up front told you the dead line was the following friday and you said no problem you need the money and they would be done asap. That did not happin it was like pulling teeth to get the shit done. after all kinds of bull shit u got them done. Dude im sorry for you problems .. but we all have them in one way or another... By you not paying you subs means your GREEDY... Im sorry in buisness the buissness owner always suffers becuase he has to pay every one before him self.. but i guess you special... hungry man was paid in full on this job and there was no waiting at all for his money. I also have no problem with work being farmed out . thats how you grow a buisnness. But not paying your subs is the fast road to being outta buisness.. so kelly i would be more then happy to pay you for the work you did on the galleries and ill collect my money from hungry man... You did a tight ass job on them .. peace localG __________________ Fuck off.