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Old 08-18-2010, 10:38 PM   #1
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:stop The Tillman Story opens this Friday 8/20 (Trailer) - Please go see it....

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Pat Tillman gave up his professional football career to join the Army Rangers in 2002 - and became an instant symbol of patriotic fervor and unflinching duty. But the truth about Pat Tillman is far more complex, and ultimately more heroic, than the caricature created by the media. And when the government tried to turn his death into war propaganda, they took on the wrong family.

From her home in the Santa Cruz mountains, Pat?s mother led the family?s crusade to reveal the truth beneath the mythology of their son?s life and death.

Featuring candid and revelatory interviews with Pat's fellow soldiers as well as his family, (this) emotional and insightful film not only shines a light on the shady aftermath of Pat?s death and calls to task the entire chain of command but also examines themes as timeless as the notion of heroism itself.
I've mentioned it before, but I attended the same High School as Pat Tillman. I was in the first graduating class, which won our football sectional championship. Pat led his team to the same championship his graduating year.

I've met members of his family and have the utmost respect for them and Pat.













Please go see "The Tillman Story" this weekend.

RIP Pat Tillman...

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Old 08-19-2010, 12:50 AM   #2
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You are asking people to go see "The Tillman Story" this weekend. You are also saying "RIP Pat Tillman", which would mean that you want Pat Tillman to "Rest In Peace". That is a nice thought from you.

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Old 08-19-2010, 01:37 AM   #3
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I watched his brother testify before the committee in real time. Friendly fire deaths are not unusual events in combat and sometimes happen on a large scale. It is not unusual for the military to hide/attempt to hide these events for more than one reason...not the least of which is for the benefit of the family. Also for the benefit of the family it is not unusual to play up the loss of a loved one...as having been a heroic death. I have engaged in combat multiple times and I am of the opinion that even peace time service is heroic and ones death should be left at that...the death of a hero.

It is my personal opinion that the Pat Tillman story should have been left to the initial reports made by the military.
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Old 08-19-2010, 01:47 AM   #4
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*crickets* no one gives a fuck about your anti-American movie, go tell someone who cares like George Clooney
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its a sad story no doubt, but i dont feel sorry for the guy..

he threw away his dreams to go fight in a war that was based 100% on bullshit...

now someone is trying to profit from his death and everyone thinks its a cool idea...




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Old 08-19-2010, 08:36 AM   #7
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It is my personal opinion that the Pat Tillman story should have been left to the initial reports made by the military.
Well, fortunately his family did not want to fed bullshit like you would have been content with. Enjoy your myths and fairy tales. I prefer honesty and reality.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:16 AM   #8
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:48 AM   #9
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Well, fortunately his family did not want to fed bullshit like you would have been content with. Enjoy your myths and fairy tales. I prefer honesty and reality.
How is it fortunate for his family to know that he was killed by friendly fire...in place of the...above and beyond the call of duty...death they were told by the military?
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How is it fortunate for his family to know that he was killed by friendly fire...in place of the...above and beyond the call of duty...death they were told by the military?
very. maybe you want to be spoonfed bullshit and march to the beat of their drum, but many people do not.

Sometimes the truth may hurt, but at very least it is the truth.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:03 PM   #11
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very. maybe you want to be spoonfed bullshit and march to the beat of their drum, but many people do not.

Sometimes the truth may hurt, but at very least it is the truth.
And that is "fortunate"...and yet again...how?
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Well, fortunately his family did not want to fed bullshit like you would have been content with. Enjoy your myths and fairy tales. I prefer honesty and reality.
Don't kid yourself. There is no government conspiracy here. What most civilians don't realize is that most units (especially Infantry units) keep their shit in-house. People can point their finger all the way up the chain of command, but I guarantee you those generals are as clueless as anyone else. The only people who know what happened to Tillman are the dudes in his platoon, his First Sergeant and his CO, and they aren't gonna say shit... ever. Ranger Bat is a good ol' boy system like no other. The REAL Pat Tillman story will die with them.
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as having been a heroic death. I have engaged in combat multiple times and I am of the opinion that even peace time service is heroic and ones death should be left at that...the death of a hero.

It is my personal opinion that the Pat Tillman story should have been left to the initial reports made by the military.
Certainly they should be honored for rendering selfless, patriotic service - but to go so far as inventing a whole schmaltzy battle scenario that never happened to cover for an apparent friendly fire death?

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its a sad story no doubt, but i dont feel sorry for the guy..

he threw away his dreams to go fight in a war that was based 100% on bullshit...

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Yeah, he bought into all the bullshit - but he was smart enough to wake up and realize after getting there that the war was bullshit. He was turning into a real anti-war guy, prepping for some campaigning when he got back out.


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Don't kid yourself. There is no government conspiracy here. What most civilians don't realize is that most units (especially Infantry units) keep their shit in-house. People can point their finger all the way up the chain of command, but I guarantee you those generals are as clueless as anyone else. The only people who know what happened to Tillman are the dudes in his platoon, his First Sergeant and his CO, and they aren't gonna say shit... ever. Ranger Bat is a good ol' boy system like no other. The REAL Pat Tillman story will die with them.
I think the new evidence being covered in the movie includes the autopsy reports that record Tillman had three close-range gun fire wounds in the forehead...

It's looking more like he was fragged, though with an M16.

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I think the new evidence being covered in the movie includes the autopsy reports that record Tillman had three close-range gun fire wounds in the forehead...

It's looking more like he was fragged, though with an M16.

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Pretty sure they were using M4's, not M16's. Still, you missed my point entirely. The point is that the government is as fucking clueless as everyone else. They tried to do the right thing by painting him in a positive light. I never met Tillman personally, but I know quite a few people that did. Trust me, I have a pretty good idea what happened to him.

That said, I don't think anyone outside of his company knows what really happened, and I don't think anyone ever should. In my opinion, unless you were there, you don't deserve to know. If the company wants to keep it in house, that's their business. It's easy to point fingers when you're a million miles away.
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I'm not familiar with Mr. Tillman nor his story.
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I'm not familiar with Mr. Tillman nor his story.
Thank you for your valuable contribution to this conversation.
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New evidence found on a message board -- kinda messed up...

http://www.deadlinehollyweird.com/pa..._evidence.html
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That doesn't look like evidence to me. More hearsay on an anon message board.
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New evidence found on a message board -- kinda messed up...

http://www.deadlinehollyweird.com/pa..._evidence.html
Wow...so that's what "evidence" means these days? "He was an asshole so he must have been murdered by his own platoon", lol.
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Pat was a great American.

Glad to see his family rejecting government corruption.
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