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baddog · 08-28-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

how much of a smoke trail must a car leave to notice it while driving by? i'm kind of imagening Cheech & Chong in a smoke filled van here..

As a motorcycle rider I can tell you that it is not unusual at all to get a hit as you are splitting lanes. The weed these days is quite pungent.

And NV is not the place to get busted for coke. This will not go as easy as the CA conviction.

She probably has a parole or probation violation to deal with now. That will really suck for her.

Slutboat · 08-28-2010, 12:23 PM

Everyone knows the swastika pre-dates Hitler and had been used by various cultures prior to becoming THE SINGLE monumental icon of the most horrifying and bloody campaign of mass-murder ever perpetrated in human history.

Regardless of the origins of the symbol it's sole use today is to represent Hitler and the Third Reich and it's the single lasting image in everyones mind that instanly recalls that terrible period in our history.

As a human bring I recoil at the thought that my species is capable of such monstrosities and Im sure if I were Jewish I would take the use of the swastika in a fun, cavalier manner deeply personally, and I may even stop doing business with individuals that show such insensitivity.

baddog · 08-28-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by quantum-x

I hate to break it to you, but centuries before it was used by hitler, the swastika (in both directions) has been used as a representation of buddism [among others]

seeandsee · 08-28-2010, 12:33 PM

it's old symbol but we know for what was used

icymelon · 08-28-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

She needs to go to jail for a while.

WHY would you say that?

justinsain · 08-28-2010, 02:05 PM

Bump for those that do bumps

Semi-Retired-Dave · 08-28-2010, 02:08 PM

Who drives in Vegas nowadays.

american pervert · 08-28-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyVisions

Maybe he's trying to take it "back," a la Randall in Clerks 2 with "Porch Monkeys."

http://svasticross.blogspot.com/

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

no matter how old and no matter what it means - 99% of the world population associates hitler and the nazis with the swastika.

I know that swastika is forbidden in your country even in movies etc, but you Germans are really too obsessed on various prohibitions. For example, did you know that River Raid was forbidden there for a few years for "violence"?

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

And NV is not the place to get busted for coke. This will not go as easy as the CA conviction.

2MaDalton: Almost everything is allowed in Vegas: gambling, drugs, prostitution, but every moron will as you to show an id in order to get a glass of beer. You must be over 21 to buy it, even if you look at 40.

As about CA, so you can openly promote "medical" weed and whores there (seen many ads in "LA Weekly") I believe the USA laws were written by a bunch of lunatics.

baddog · 08-28-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

2MaDalton: Almost everything is allowed in Vegas: gambling, drugs, prostitution, but every moron will as you to show an id in order to get a glass of beer. You must be over 21 to buy it, even if you look at 40.

You are wrong.

joshuawk · 08-28-2010, 02:39 PM

I was wondering why she looks like shit some times.

not judging her for having an addiction problem, but that shit is hard on u

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

You are wrong.

There are lots of arguments in your post

Where exactly I'm wrong?

baddog · 08-28-2010, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

There are lots of arguments in your post

Where exactly I'm wrong?

Drugs and prostitution are NOT legal in Las Vegas. Gambling is legal.

MaDalton · 08-28-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I know that swastika is forbidden in your country even in movies etc, but you Germans are really too obsessed on various prohibitions. For example, did you know that River Raid was forbidden there for a few years for "violence"?

the swastika is not forbidden in movies, what makes you think that? otherwise there would be no documentaries, no movies like "The Downfall" or "Valkyrie" and so on.

it is indeed forbidden to use it for political purposes or to display it in public on clothes or flags - and this is totally fine. what would the world think when it would be allowed again to run around with swastika flags in Germany?

and yeah, some movies, games, music etc. were only made available for people older than 18 - in many cases laughable and quite often later revoked. but really "forbidden" are very very few of those.

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Drugs and prostitution are NOT legal in Las Vegas. Gambling is legal.

I've brought a bunch of whore ads from Vegas as souvenirs. I mean these the Asian guys pushing into your hands when you are walking though the night strip. Should I make a photo of them for you? The same thing with drugs. Color guys pushing them right there w/o any fear.

MaDalton · 08-28-2010, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

2MaDalton: Almost everything is allowed in Vegas: gambling, drugs, prostitution, but every moron will as you to show an id in order to get a glass of beer. You must be over 21 to buy it, even if you look at 40.

As about CA, so you can openly promote "medical" weed and whores there (seen many ads in "LA Weekly") I believe the USA laws were written by a bunch of lunatics.

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Originally Posted by baddog

Drugs and prostitution are NOT legal in Las Vegas. Gambling is legal.

what Baddog says...

but i don't get what's your obsession with pointing fingers at others? recently read any news about Russia that are not controlled by the government?

like
- critical journalists get shot and no one cares to find out by whom?
- russian nationalist and facists hunt black or asian people and beat them to death?
- oligarchs bend the laws and use government property for their personal gains?
- environmental protesters get attacked by militia and instead of protecting them, the police beats them up some more and arrests them?
- gay protesters get beaten up and once again the police arrests the victims and not those who attacked them?

i could go on for a while but when you look closely, you will see that no country is perfect. but if you want to point fingers you have many reasons to start in your own neighbourhood

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

the swastika is not forbidden in movies, what makes you think that? otherwise there would be no documentaries, no movies like "The Downfall" or "Valkyrie" and so on.

Can't say anything about documentaries but swastikas are surely forbidden in the computer games. E.g. the original "Wolfenstein" series etc. Why they are getting censored?

baddog · 08-28-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I've brought a bunch of whore ads from Vegas as souvenirs. I mean these the Asian guys pushing into your hands when you are walking though the night strip. Should I make a photo of them for you? The same thing with drugs. Color guys pushing them right there w/o any fear.

Whatever your incorrect perceptions may be does not change the FACTS.

Monique Niccole · 08-28-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I've brought a bunch of whore ads from Vegas as souvenirs. I mean these the Asian guys pushing into your hands when you are walking though the night strip. Should I make a photo of them for you? The same thing with drugs. Color guys pushing them right there w/o any fear.

That doesn't make it legal.

MaDalton · 08-28-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Can't say anything about documentaries but swastikas are surely forbidden in the computer games. E.g. the original "Wolfenstein" series etc. Why they are getting censored?

because in this case it is not used for educational or artistic reasons

and "Castle Wolfenstein" is surely not art nor educational

baddog · 08-28-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

That doesn't make it legal.

I never recall seeing any Asian guys handing out anything on the strip. Many South and Central Americans, never an Asian.

Obviously legal.

MaDalton · 08-28-2010, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I never recall seeing any Asian guys handing out anything on the strip. Many South and Central Americans, never an Asian.

i always though they're all mexicans... and pretty annoying too

baddog · 08-28-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

i always though they're all mexicans... and pretty annoying too

Nothing personal, but I would not expect a European to know the difference between a Mexican and an Ecuadorian by sight.

Monique Niccole · 08-28-2010, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I never recall seeing any Asian guys handing out anything on the strip. Many South and Central Americans, never an Asian.

I'm not exactly the target market for hooker flyers, but I've only noticed young Hispanic guys and maybe some white guys passing things out on the strip.

american pervert · 08-28-2010, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

Regardless of the origins of the symbol it's sole use today is to represent Hitler and the Third Reich and it's the single lasting image in everyones mind that instanly recalls that terrible period in our history.

you are incorrect about this. some people today still view it as something spiritual and not related to anything negative. unfortunately not everyone is educated enough to see beyond some perverted use of it. That is what it might be to you, but you can't cast your views on to what everyone thinks.

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

but i don't get what's your obsession with pointing fingers at others? recently read any news about Russia that are not controlled by the government?

Has nothing to do with what I was saying above.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

- critical journalists get shot and no one cares to find out by whom?

Wrong. There are lots of media groups and parties that criticize the Russian government. No one is being shoot of them. Kasparov, Limonov etc... or even me for example

As about these who was shoot (e.g. Politkovskaya), so she was criticizing the government of Chechnya. These guys understand sharia law only so personally I wouldn't mess with them.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

- russian nationalist and facists hunt black or asian people and beat them to death?

Like in ANY other country. Not less and not more. At least there are MUCH less racial-related murders in Russia comparing to the USA.

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

- oligarchs bend the laws and use government property for their personal gains?

The oligarchs bend the laws and use government property for their personal gains in ANY country. In Italy it's called Mafia, in Russia it's corruption, in the USA it's political lobby etc. The world is not ideal. Everywhere...

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

- environmental protesters get attacked by militia and instead of protecting them, the police beats them up some more and arrests them?

Partially true. The problem is that these protesters don't want to protest in places specified by the Moscow city hall. They want to protest anywhere. Unfortunately, in Moscow this is prohibited. I agree that's not good, but on the other hand it's not really critical. I can live with that - believe me

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- gay protesters get beaten up and once again the police arrests the victims and not those who attacked them?

That's not true as well. According the polls, about 90% of Moscow citizens are against of the gay parades. I'm against of them as well. Homosexuality is not a crime. There are many of gay clubs where these people can do everything they want, but most of people don't want to see their parades (perhaps because most men are still straight there in Russia as opposed to the EU

) The ban on parades was made to prevent the attacks on gays. And you are wrong about police. If you browse youtube, you'll see that they just pulling off the gays from furious crowd. Otherwise they could be teared to pieces. I'm living here and I know what I'm talking about.

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i could go on for a while

Please do. There is no prob with that. I'm always open for a discussion

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

but when you look closely, you will see that no country is perfect.

Ha, this is exactly what I wanted to tell you!

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Monique Niccole

That doesn't make it legal.

So when this happens before police eyes is not legal? Even if the police does nothing to prevent it? You want to tell me what the US police is not have to uphold the law (prosecute the illegal activity) anymore?

Wow! I'm really confused now!

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I never recall seeing any Asian guys handing out anything on the strip. Many South and Central Americans, never an Asian.

Perhaps. Personally I don't really recognize them as much. Does it change anything?

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Originally Posted by baddog

Nothing personal, but I would not expect a European to know the difference between a Mexican and an Ecuadorian by sight.

I'm the one of these stupid Europeans in this case.

baddog · 08-28-2010, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Perhaps. Personally I don't really recognize them as much. Does it change anything?

Not really. You are still incorrect.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I'm the one of these stupid Europeans in this case.

At least MaDalton knows the difference between Hispanic and Asian. Does that make you dumber than the average European or is he just above average?

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

At least MaDalton knows the difference between Hispanic and Asian. Does that make you dumber than the average European or is he just above average?

Try to answer to this question yourself. Perhaps the person who meets more Latin-American and Asian guys can see the difference much better than one who meets less of them. The same is related to motorcycles (I believe you know them better than me), horse breeds or programming which I know far better than you. So what?

Amputate Your Head · 08-28-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

So when this happens before police eyes is not legal?

No, still not legal.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Even if the police does nothing to prevent it?

The police are probably pimping them out and getting a cut from the drugs.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

You want to tell me what the US police is not have to uphold the law (prosecute the illegal activity) anymore?

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Wow! I'm really confused now!

it's okay.

baddog · 08-28-2010, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Try to answer to this question yourself. Perhaps the person who meets more Latin-American and Asian guys can see the difference much better than one who meets less of them. The same is related to motorcycles (I believe you know them better than me), horse breeds or programming which I know far better than you. So what?

And I know Las Vegas much better than you, yet you argue that I do not know what I am talking about.

I apologize if the translation went over your head.

MaDalton · 08-28-2010, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

That's not true as well. According the polls, about 90% of Moscow citizens are against of the gay parades. I'm against of them as well. Homosexuality is not a crime. There are many of gay clubs where these people can do everything they want, but most of people don't want to see their parades (perhaps because most men are still straight there in Russia as opposed to the EU

) The ban on parades was made to prevent the attacks on gays. And you are wrong about police. If you browse youtube, you'll see that they just pulling off the gays from furious crowd. Otherwise they could be teared to pieces. I'm living here and I know what I'm talking about.

yeah, we're all gay. thats why we grant freedom of expression to everyone who moves along with the laws.

banning parades to protect people is not exactly a sign of democracy

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

And I know Las Vegas much better than you

Yes you know. But this doesn't change my opinion about what I saw by my own eyes.

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Originally Posted by baddog

I apologize if the translation went over your head.

You don't have to. I do understand your language and as far as you see. I'm not trying to speak to you on mine, because you won't be able to understand it. So as you can see, I'm taking your narrowness into account and trying to avoid any mentioning of it.

baddog · 08-28-2010, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Yes you know. But this doesn't change my opinion about what I saw by my own eyes.

You don't have to. I do understand your language and as far as you see, I'm not trying to speak to you on mine, because you won't be able to understand it. So I you can see, I'm taking your narrowness into account and trying to avoid any mentioning of it.

Be sure to call me on it if you ever see me arguing Russian law with you.

For some reason, your comment made me think of the saying, believe nothing you hear and only half of what you see. And your OPINION is just that. Incorrect, but an opinion no less.

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

That's exactly the same video I was going to show you. As you can see, there are a small group of gays and a big crowd of furious people including christian fanatics. I can imagine what would happen to gays if police won't stop the parade....

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

banning parades to protect people is not exactly a sign of democracy

Really? I don't think so. You have to look into the dictionary for the meaning of "democracy".

baddog · 08-28-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Really? I don't think so. You have to look into the dictionary for the meaning of "democracy".

gxer · 08-28-2010, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy West

you suck, Random Waste

american pervert · 08-28-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

So when this happens before police eyes is not legal? Even if the police does nothing to prevent it? You want to tell me what the US police is not have to uphold the law (prosecute the illegal activity) anymore?

Wow! I'm really confused now!

I thought every europen knew that america has the highest incaration rate of any westernized nation?!?!?

cops love to beat and arrest people and the courts love to lock them up

trollhunter · 08-28-2010, 05:55 PM

That's a nose made for cocaine!

Ethersync · 08-28-2010, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

yeah, we're all gay. thats why we grant freedom of expression to everyone who moves along with the laws.

banning parades to protect people is not exactly a sign of democracy

That video is disgusting and unfortunately very typical. A lot of Russians are violent and racist homophobes. Not all, but many. I have seen some really sickening stuff in and around Russia.

Chosen · 08-28-2010, 10:29 PM

I thought this thread is about Paris Hilton?..

2012 · 08-28-2010, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gxer

you suck, Random Waste

just a punk · 08-28-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Be sure to call me on it if you ever see me arguing Russian law with you.

When you take a ride through whole Russia on your bike, there really will be something to discuss with you about our laws, people, nature etc. I'm telling you this absolutely seriously. You said "believe only half of what you see". Perhaps you are right, but you still have to see something by your own eyes but not to just hear about it from the TV News.

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Man, you were misinformed. Democracy is not something the US soldiers doing in Iraq (i.e. killing 1000's of innocent foreign people for the priceless oil).

Here is a quote from wikipedia (sorry for the source, I'm too lazy to look for the English definition in other places):

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Democracy is a political form of government where governing power is derived from the people, either by direct referendum (direct democracy) or by means of elected representatives of the people (representative democracy).[1] The term comes from the Greek: δημοκρατία – (dēmokratía) "rule of the people",[2] which was coined from δῆμος (dêmos) "people" and κράτος (Kratos) "power"

So when 90% of Moscow citizens DO NOT WANT to see gay parades and many of them even ready to start a mass beating of the parade members, the Moscow government simple submit to the peoples will and bans the parade (power is derived from the people). You Americans have very perverted view of democracy. I don't know why exactly this has happened. Perhaps something wrong with your food or water

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Man, you were misinformed. Democracy is not something the US soldiers doing in Iraq (i.e. killing 1000's of innocent foreign people for the priceless oil).

Here is a quote from wikipedia (sorry for the source, I'm too lazy to look for the English definition in other places):

So when 90% of Moscow citizens DO NOT WANT to see gay parades and many of them even ready to start a mass beating of the parade members, the Moscow government simple submit to the peoples will and bans the parade (power is derived from the people). You Americans have very perverted view of democracy. I don't know why exactly this has happened. Perhaps something wrong with your food or water

Democracy is not punching someone in the face. You are correct though. Democracy is not freedom. A true democracy is nothing more than the tyranny of the masses. That is why America was founded as a Constitutional Republic. Apparently you do not realize Russia is also a Republic and not a Democracy...

Platinumpimp · 08-29-2010, 04:17 AM

Randy I think the swastika symbols are uncalled for, especially for European people.

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Democracy is not punching someone in the face.

Correct, and also it's not killing civilians from military helicopters

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

You are correct though. Democracy is not freedom. A true democracy is nothing more than the tyranny of the masses. That is why America was founded as a Constitutional Republic. Apparently you do not realize Russia is also a Republic and not a Democracy...

Actually I do.

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Correct, and also it's not killing civilians from military helicopters

I never said it was. You talk like the Russian government and military are made up of saints. The atrocities committed by the Russian military in Chechnya are every bit as bad, if not worse, than what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Actually I do.

Then why did you say this:

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

So when 90% of Moscow citizens DO NOT WANT to see gay parades and many of them even ready to start a mass beating of the parade members, the Moscow government simple submit to the peoples will and bans the parade (power is derived from the people). You Americans have very perverted view of democracy.

In a free society no majority has the right to trample on the rights of any minority.

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