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woj · 08-29-2010, 07:12 AM

100 coke heads

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

I never said it was. You talk like the Russian government and military are made up of saints. The atrocities committed by the Russian military in Chechnya are every bit as bad, if not worse, than what the US is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.

With only one exception. Iraq and Afghanistan are INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES. They are not a part of the USA. Can't you really see the difference???

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

With only one exception. Iraq and Afghanistan are INDEPENDENT COUNTRIES. They are not a part of the USA. Can't you really see the difference???

It is no excuse. Chechnya SHOULD be independent just like many other countries that were part of the Soviet Union. They have been fighting for their independence for over 100 years. So, why does Russia not let these people live in peace and with autonomy? Oil maybe?

Phoenix · 08-29-2010, 08:06 AM

eh..i doubt she does any time....celebrity rehab maybe

dr drew will straighten her out..lol

the swastika is everywhere in korea...on all the Buddhist buildings

im not sure but i think its reversed though also

CaptainHowdy · 08-29-2010, 08:15 AM

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

It is no excuse.

It is the only thing that has a sense. Everything else is just a useles occupation demagogy.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Chechnya SHOULD be independent just like many other countries that were part of the Soviet Union.

Chechnya NEVER WAS among 15 Soviet Republics. Surprised? It ALWAYS was a part of Russian Republic.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

They have been fighting for their independence for over 100 years.

Please better tell this bullshit to the US people. Make them think about American Indians robbed, raped and killed by the "US fathers". Make them think about Africans that were forceful relocated to America and used by the "US fathers" as slaves for many years. Make them leave America to Indians and go back to their historical lands (UK, France, Spain etc). Can't you?

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

So, why does Russia not let these people live in peace and with autonomy?

You are soooooo misinformed. Don't trust FOX and Russia Today. Chechnya is already an autonomy which exists on billion subsidies from Russia (personally I as a tax payer have no will to feed these fuckers from my pocket). They actually live by sharia law. For example, you can't buy a booze there. You can have as many wives as you can buy (yes I mean money) including underage ones, you must me a Muslim to live there w/o problems, if you are woman and you are walking by the street without a shawl, you will be shot with a paintball riffle and so on...

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Oil maybe?

Chechnya is not Iraq. There is no oil in industrial volumes.

2intense · 08-29-2010, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

100 coke heads

Pornopat · 08-29-2010, 08:44 AM

Randy West when does school start again?

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Please better tell this bullshit to the US people. Make them think about American Indians robbed, raped and killed by the "US fathers". Make them think about Africans that were forceful relocated to America and used by the "US fathers" as slaves for many years. Make them leave America to Indians and go back to their historical lands (UK, France, Spain etc). Can't you?

You are comparing things that happened in America (and much of the rest of the world) to what is happening in Chechnya TODAY.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

You are soooooo misinformed. Don't trust FOX and Russia Today.

I am misinformed? Your media is all-but entirely controlled by the government. It may not be as bad as "Pravda" during Soviet Times, but it is hardly a free press. Also, I do not watch Fox News and Russia Today is funded by your government.

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Chechnya is already an autonomy which exists on billion subsidies from Russia (personally I as a tax payer have no will to feed these fuckers from my pocket).

So they are an autonomous nation subsidized by the Russian government yet the Russian government is constantly at war with them?

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

They actually live by sharia law. For example, you can't buy a booze there. You can have as many wives as you can buy (yes I mean money) including underage ones, you must me a Muslim to live there w/o problems, if you are woman and you are walking by the street without a shawl, you will be shot with a paintball riffle and so on...

Interesting. Any sources?

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Chechnya is not Iraq. There is no oil in industrial volumes.

Think pipelines. Think access to Caspian sea.

Why should Chechnya NOT be it's own independent country?

Why is controlling that region so important to the Russian government?

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

You are comparing things that happened in America (and much of the rest of the world) to what is happening in Chechnya TODAY.

Not today but 20 years ago when Chechens have killed 10000's of Russians just because they were not Muslims. But does it really matter?

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

I am misinformed? Your media is all-but entirely controlled by the government.

My media?

You have a different one?

Man, EVERY media is controlled by government. Directly or indirectly. Don't be a kid, this is a real world.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

It may not be as bad as "Pravda" during Soviet Times, but it is hardly a free press. Also, I do not watch Fox News and Russia Today is funded by your government.

You are wrong. FOX News was not funded by "my" government. It's an US Republican propaganda as well as Russia Today is pro-Kremlin propaganda. Same shit, diffident face.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

So they are an autonomous nation subsidized by the Russian government yet the Russian government is constantly at war with them?

See my reply above.

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Interesting. Any sources?

There are no official sources. Politkovskaya was trying to write about it. Do you know where exactly she is now? However there are lots of independent blogs in the Internet, there is youtube etc.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Think pipelines. Think access to Caspian sea.

Think South Stream.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Why should Chechnya NOT it's own independent country?

Because their legit president elected by Chechens and those Chechens themselves (there was a referendum) don't want it. You know, it's better to do nothing and live like kings for Russian money. As I told you above, I don't want to feed these useless people, but I'm in minority, so I can't do anything about it.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Why is controlling that region so important to the Russian government?

Ask Putin about it.

TurboAngel · 08-29-2010, 09:08 AM

I thought this thread was about Paris Hilton?

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 09:33 AM

Me too

Amputate Your Head · 08-29-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by TurboAngel

I thought this thread was about Paris Hilton?

Paris "SS Doomtrooper" Hilton.

fatfoo · 08-29-2010, 10:05 AM

Randy West, that's shocking. You found the character for a swastika.

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Not today but 20 years ago when Chechens have killed 10000's of Russians just because they were not Muslims. But does it really matter?

Many more Chechens were killed my Russians than vice versa.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

My media?

You have a different one?

Man, EVERY media is controlled by government. Directly or indirectly. Don't be a kid, this is a real world.

Controlled != manipulated. Russian media is directly controlled by the Kremlin and ultimately Putin. Do you think Obama directly controls the US media? Tell that to Fox News.

You are wrong. FOX News was not funded by "my" government. It's an US Republican propaganda as well as Russia Today is pro-Kremlin propaganda. Same shit, diffident face.[/QUOTE]

I never said they were. I said Russia Today was.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Because their legit president elected by Chechens and those Chechens themselves (there was a referendum) don't want it. You know, it's better to do nothing and live like kings for Russian money. As I told you above, I don't want to feed these useless people, but I'm in minority, so I can't do anything about it.

If the leaders of and people of Chechnya do not want independence what were the wars over?

Are you seriously saying that Chechens are living like kings with Russian money?

You say you do not want to feed them, but do you agree they should have total independence, their own currency and national sovereignty if they want it?

It seems to me that when it comes to Chechnya you are every bit as bigoted and uninformed as the stereotypical Fox News devotee is when it comes to the Middle East.

just a punk · 08-29-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Many more Chechens were killed my Russians than vice versa.

I don't want to know where did you get the numbers and I don't think you will be able show them to me, so I don't care. I just don't play these games "who kills more". It's not an action movie.

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

Controlled != manipulated. Russian media is directly controlled by the Kremlin and ultimately Putin. Do you think Obama directly controls the US media? Tell that to Fox News. You are wrong.

Obama is nothing. He doesn't decide anything. There are much more powerful people behind his back - they are the real power. As I said above it's a real world but not a movie. I'm open for any mature discussion, but in your case it's like to explain to a child what quantum mechanic is. Sorry, but PLEASE no offense if I will ignore your posts. Nothing personal, ok?

P.S. As about Russian media. 1st and 2nd national TV channels are directly controlled by Kremlin. Others are not (e.g. REN TV). Radio (e.g. Echo Msk), press and internet media are uncontrolled as well (I REALLY HOPE I don't have to explain why youtube.com don't give a shit about Russian government).

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I don't want to know where did you get the numbers and I don't think you will be able show them to me, so I don't care.

Caucasian War: Russian army of a quarter million troops invades an army of around 7,000 troops of which at least 5,000 were killed. Dead Russians ~4,000. The number of civilians killed is not really known.

Soviet Rule: The entire Chechen population was deported to Siberia. 170,000 to 200,000 Chechens were killed (up to 1/2 of their entire population) vs. no dead Soviets.

First Chechen War: 100,000+ Dead Chechens (mostly civilians) vs. ~5,362 Dead Russians (all military).

Second Chechen War: 25,000 to 200,000+ Dead Checkens (mostly civilians) vs. 8,000 to 40,000 Dead Russians (all military).

Up to 505,000 Dead Chechens vs. up to 49,362 (most likely less than 20,000) Dead Russians.

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

I'm open for any mature discussion, but in your case it's like to explain to a child what quantum mechanic is. Sorry, but PLEASE no offense if I will ignore your posts. Nothing personal, ok?

The truth is too scary for you I guess.

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P.S. As about Russian media. 1st and 2nd national TV channels are directly controlled by Kremlin. Others are not (e.g. REN TV). Radio (e.g. Echo Msk), press and internet media are uncontrolled as well (I REALLY HOPE I don't have to explain why youtube.com don't give a shit about Russian government).

I'm not an armchair cowboy sitting on my Lazy Boy down in Texas. I have a flat in Russia and have lived in various parts of Russia, off and on, for 10 years. I am well aware of how the press in the West is manipulated. I am also not just picking on your motherland. There are some issues that I totally side with Russia on (e.g. the Soviets being unfairly labeled as invaders of Afghanistan).

Here is a good article on your free press:

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Killing the Russian Media

Journalists from around the world who will gather in Moscow next week are poised to stand up for their colleagues in a country where journalism and journalists are increasingly under attack. The 1,000 media representatives plan to establish a commission to finally investigate the growing number of unsolved murders of journalists in Vladimir Putin?s Russia.

Russia is now the third deadliest country for journalists, after Iraq and Algeria, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists. Since the year 2000, when President Putin was first elected, at least 14 journalists have been murdered because of their work. None of these murders have been solved.

A journalists? commission is no substitute for what Mr. Putin?s government has denied ? justice. But it should draw attention to their murders and what they were investigating. It also may help focus attention on the methodical destruction of the fledgling free press that sprouted in Russia after the fall of Communism.

After Mr. Putin took over, national television stations were the first to lose their independence. Major newspapers are increasingly controlled by those who do the state?s bidding. The radio correspondents for the Russian News Service, the main source of news for radio stations, resigned earlier this month to protest censorship by new owners. And the Russian Union of Journalists, a strong voice against the march to silence any independent reporting, was ordered to leave its Moscow headquarters just days before the international conference.

The few remaining critics increasingly write or speak out at their peril, as new laws tighten the government?s grip. Most recently, the definition of extremism has been expanded to include media criticism of state officials. That can mean jail time for the reporter and the shutting down of the news outlet. Nina Ognianova of the Committee to Protect Journalists puts it chillingly: ?The process of squeezing critical journalism out of the public space is now near complete.?

In the meantime, polls show President Putin?s popularity has soared. No wonder. Fewer and fewer Russians can see or hear from anyone who opposes him, his policies or his government.

Also Russia is currently ranked 153rd in the Press Freedom Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

Quagmire · 08-29-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy

I'm not gonna lie, I'd hit it.

But I wouldn't let her climax.

NaughtyVisions · 08-29-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Quagmire

I'm not gonna lie, I'd hit it.

But I wouldn't let her climax.

Here's some more. I'd hit too.

Slutboat · 08-29-2010, 03:57 PM

man when a government starts hiring professional assasins to murder journalist that are critical of the administration... how do they come back from that? 14 dead reporters? Man Putin has got to go.

Ethersync · 08-29-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Slutboat

man when a government starts hiring professional assasins to murder journalist that are critical of the administration... how do they come back from that? 14 dead reporters? Man Putin has got to go.

I forgot to include the URL to that story: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/24/opinion/24thu3.html

V_RocKs · 08-29-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy West

Dammit!

..

JP-pornshooter · 08-30-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Perhaps. Personally I don't really recognize them as much. Does it change anything?

I'm the one of these stupid Europeans in this case.

in europe, is every car exceeding the speed limit fined?
if people are speeding it means that driving faster than the posted speed limit is legal?

PlugRush Sascha · 08-30-2010, 11:22 AM

The swastikas make this thread.

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candyflip · 08-30-2010, 12:11 PM

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As I read your post, I had that imminent throat numbing 'drip' hit the back of my throat... but it wasn't really there... WTF??

Anyone holding? :P

I haven't touched it in quite some time and it's still just a phone call and 10 minute wait away.

I'm smart enough to not get busted doing any of that shit. I smoked weed in my car when I was 18.

just a punk · 08-30-2010, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

in europe, is every car exceeding the speed limit fined?
if people are speeding it means that driving faster than the posted speed limit is legal?

You don't understand something. In Vegas 100's of guys push whore flayers absolutely openly on the main street of the city right before police eyes. Close to midnight almost all the strip is getting buried with these small ads featuring busty hookers with phones. No one cop gives a flying fuck about it. Do you think they just "unable to catch the criminals"? Try to imagine something really illegal instead of these flayers.

For example. Here in Russia prostitution is NOT forbidden. There is no law against it. Only pimps can be arrested and imprisoned but not whores. According to the news almost everyday some pimp (or a group of them) gets arrested. Take into account the fact that they (pimps) never sell whores openly. Also everyone knows what Russian police is extremely corrupted so it cooperates with pimps (usually police and pimps are the same persons), but even in this case pimps never sell girls right on the main street. Never!

sperbonzo · 08-30-2010, 12:36 PM

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to illustrate the nazi-ism inherent in the psuedo-celebrity cocaine use system?

(shot in the dark)

"Oh! Come and see the violence inherent in the system! HELP! HELP! I'm being repressed!"

"Bloody peasant!"

"Oh, what a give away. Did you here that, did you here that, eh? That's what I'm on about -- did you see him repressing me? You saw it didn't you?"

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just a punk · 08-30-2010, 12:38 PM

Man, you have a Jewish face on your avatar. Don't you really think bad about swastika?

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