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Old 09-11-2010, 02:09 PM   #151
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3 Points to Shap for the back and forth..lol
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:12 PM   #152
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I still have money going into epass from my sponsers not in the virtul visa but into the wallet. I think if they wanted to screw people out of thier money they would have done it years ago. Why run a company for 7 years trhen decide yeah lets screw everybody. People are getting wires so thats a good sign as well.
I am sure those guys are working thier butts of to get this resolved, and Michael has always responded to my emails. Call me stupid but I have every confidence in epass getting back to what it was
Well..I am not saying they WOULD or WILL screw people over here but ...greed can turn people sometimes.

Yes I appreciate Michael O as everyone else on GFY does...sadly he is just a middlemen in this case, and cannot really tell us wtf is going on.

Have faith young one!
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:20 PM   #153
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Well..I am not saying they WOULD or WILL screw people over here but ...greed can turn people sometimes.

Yes I appreciate Michael O as everyone else on GFY does...sadly he is just a middlemen in this case, and cannot really tell us wtf is going on.

Have faith young one!
yeah true Michael deserves a medal for taking all the crap on GFY over the last week

damm.... havent been called "young one" in ages lol that made me smile
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Old 09-11-2010, 02:27 PM   #154
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This thread was really a waste of time to read. Nobody recieved any money yet. Only some money was gone from some accounts but never recieved. When someone actually gets their money, then that's a different story, untill them it's just nore lame drama.
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yeah true Michael deserves a medal for taking all the crap on GFY over the last week

damm.... havent been called "young one" in ages lol that made me smile
Deserves a medal??

Let's see. He answered the same easy questions repeatedly. Completely ignored other questions. Then lost it and went gangster (DONT DARE QUESTION MY COMMITMENT!) when someone asked why he wasnt answering them. Promised an update, provided a bullshit one under his nick (having to know full well it wasnt written by the owner of the company). Then he started another thread admonishing the Anal Hobbit. Then stopped responding to anyone on the boards, because it was too much to keep up with. (even though they were threads HE started).

Quite a productive week.
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What I did say is when in doubt and when in a major crisis it's probably a good thing to have someone who's been through it and survived in charge.
This logic is so backasswards. So you think its good to have someone in charge who's fucked up repeatedly but managed to fix his fuckups versus someone who hasnt ever fucked up in the first place?
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I know. I'm a lawyer's worst nightmare. I can't bite my tongue. I've thought about it all week and thought man if I were Chris i'd be doing x y z. But you know that's just me and the reality is if he would have sat here and replied to people he wouldn't be any further ahead in solving his situation. He would have taken time and energy away from solving the problem. He would have probably become more aggravated and far less motivated to help people here out. No matter what he'd say a % of people would have been happy and a larger percent would have crucified him and been relentless until he left.
See, you're putting CM on too high of a pedestal. What you describe you'd do is right and what CM is doing is wrong.

You cannot necessarily judge someone solely on their past successes. Many of the once mighty have fallen hard and CM is not immune to that possibility. That is what has people worried ... especially with the lack of transparency in his businesses.

He may have made God knows how much money but he may have also lost God knows how much. We know of a single $20+ million bet that he lost. If there are others that we don't know about he could be up shits creek no matter his track record.

Fortunes are made and lost every day.

It isn't the known that has people worried -- we know very little -- it's the unknown that everybody is afraid of. As this drags on more and more things that were was unknown are coming to light.
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Deserves a medal??

Let's see. He answered the same easy questions repeatedly. Completely ignored other questions. Then lost it and went gangster (DONT DARE QUESTION MY COMMITMENT!) when someone asked why he wasnt answering them. Promised an update, provided a bullshit one under his nick (having to know full well it wasnt written by the owner of the company). Then he started another thread admonishing the Anal Hobbit. Then stopped responding to anyone on the boards, because it was too much to keep up with. (even though they were threads HE started).

Quite a productive week.
Can you imagine the amount of emails and ICQ's he was trying to reply back to, not to mention the paperwork and IDs people were submitting. I would love to see you in his situation and see just how well you would handle it. I got an reply back from my emails which I sent him within 24 hours. The guy was taking the full brunt of a lot of the stupidity of people on this board, he deserves more than a medal in my books
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See, you're putting CM on too high of a pedestal. What you describe you'd do is right and what CM is doing is wrong.

You cannot necessarily judge someone solely on their past successes. Many of the once mighty have fallen hard and CM is not immune to that possibility. That is what has people worried ... especially with the lack of transparency in his businesses.

He may have made God knows how much money but he may have also lost God knows how much. We know of a single $20+ million bet that he lost. If there are others that we don't know about he could be up shits creek no matter his track record.

Fortunes are made and lost every day.

It isn't the known that has people worried -- we know very little -- it's the unknown that everybody is afraid of. As this drags on more and more things that were was unknown are coming to light.
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I got an reply back from my emails which I sent him within 24 hours.

Was this before or after he started a thread about the loss of respect for Anal Hobbit?

How about before or after he posted the bullshit update and then went MIA in his own threads?

So I also assume you feel that the CEO of BP deserved a medal as well?
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Old 09-11-2010, 03:26 PM   #161
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lol Wow. I said it's a good start and you take it to this extreme? Ok.
You didn't but I did? I don't think so. You are in a different place than many. You had money in both wallet and vv. BIG bucks in wallet. You were worried, a bit in a panic (see your 2010 sucks thread). Then you get confirmation your wire is on the way and the cash register in your brain went "ok, vast majority of funds are safe, I may lose a bit on VV, but I'm ok" and then your tone changes. The skies clear, and everything is sunshine and lollipops. But lets be honest, if ALL your money was on VV, would reading this thread make you go "wow, everything is going to be fine?" No, of course not, because the wallet issue and the vv issue are two separate issues. You were always told your funds were available, you were just worried they were telling the truth. The VV people have never been told their funds are available. So it is an entirely different boat. Naturally, many of those reading all of the threads are wondering "Ok, so wires are going out...will that now deplete all available funds so there won't be anything left to fund visa"? Being a businessman surely you see things, or try to from all sides.

One of the problems is, some of the big players have never been poor, or have been living the good life so long that they forget. You were never in danger of starving, or not paying your rent like some of the other people. Everyone needs to be considered in this fiasco...because as far as I am concerned, everyone is equally as important.
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Was this before or after he started a thread about the loss of respect for Anal Hobbit?

How about before or after he posted the bullshit update and then went MIA in his own threads?

So I also assume you feel that the CEO of BP deserved a medal as well?
This was after, and what has the CEO of BP got to do with this ? Im not suprised he went of the boards either with all the crap he was taking
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This was after, and what has the CEO of BP got to do with this ? Im not suprised he went of the boards either with all the crap he was taking
With your logic, if a company fucks up and an employee starts handling questions/responding they deserve a medal. The CEO of BP took a lot of abuse, answered a lot of stupid questions, so does he deserve a medal? If I recall the BP employees in the field handling media requests took tons of abuse. They deserve a medal?

And he didnt start taking the majority of the crap until he promised an update, provided a made up one and lied about when wires were processed. Then he bailed on his own update thread.
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I still have money going into epass from my sponsers not in the virtul visa but into the wallet. I think if they wanted to screw people out of thier money they would have done it years ago. Why run a company for 7 years trhen decide yeah lets screw everybody. People are getting wires so thats a good sign as well.
I am sure those guys are working thier butts of to get this resolved, and Michael has always responded to my emails. Call me stupid but I have every confidence in epass getting back to what it was
you can say the same for almost every company that shit the bed..most don't it on purpose, but some funds vanished, that's a fact and alot of folks won't get them back
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you can say the same for almost every company that shit the bed..most don't it on purpose, but some funds vanished, that's a fact and alot of folks won't get them back
From all the research I've done I heard no funds have vanished
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so Shap you got an statement it was send?
now update this thread when it is in your account, ok?
as in you did actually receive it.
now that would be news.
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http://www.cinematical.com/2010/09/11/middle-men-porn/


"Rumors are swirling -- with some customers afraid Mallick has taken off with their cash. "

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"Rumors are swirling -- with some customers afraid Mallick has taken off with their cash. "
Yeah gfy rumors
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if you write to them, they will set your account to automatically receive any further funds to your e wallet as a default.

whatever is in your virtual visa is stuck, at the moment....that's where most people are having trouble.
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Shap, my man ... RELAX ...

They are in panic mode. Whatever you say ... it won't help.
Did you ever saw such a big group of panic babies together in your whole life?

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They say online porn is what, a 6 billion dollar / year biz. If only 1/6 or 1 Billion went thru epass and they took total 3% or 30 mil / year.

Just trying to get a handle.. I still have to think that Mr Mallick is worth way more personally than say 50 mil.

I really do not think Mr Mallick is somehow stealing this money.

So that means it is just a new Visa Regulations thing. The system is "deficient" somehow. That explains why mostly only those outside the US are getting accounts locked with paperwork needed.

If you are in the US, they have your SSN so you are already in line for the new regs.

So lets hope it is indeed regs.

If you remove all the innuendo and comments it points mostly to being a Visa initiated thing. That doesnt mean Mr Mallick isnt responsible for the proper mgmt to have avoided this but, I dont think his intent is to crash epass for the money in the VV and Wallet.

But next week will tell. Wires take time. And they did not get them sent out right away. Which is understandable.

They should mostly all arrive next 10 days, that is my call.

But I have already moved all my main sponsors on to new payment methods. That is what might really hurt them. I would still use them to send money if needed but I actually prefer my new incoming payment methods. I switched several to ACH. Way better.

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Long live... ??
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The U.S.

That is the place to be.. now.

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Shap, my man ... RELAX ...

They are in panic mode. Whatever you say ... it won't help.
Did you ever saw such a big group of panic babies together in your whole life?

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BUT the question remains.... after ALL the bullshit, Has anyone been paid yet?

I am out only a few hundred so I don't give a fuck... I never kept much in epass to begin with. I always moved it as fast as it came in.. Anyone who would leave large sums of money in an online ONLY account is just stupid... I can walk to my bank anytime and put money in or take money out..

Good luck..
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Very well written.

Having said, that Epassporte is holding millions of dollars belonging to other people hostage with no information. In fact, what official information has come out has contradicted with the bank and Visa are saying.
That's the scary part, when it contradicts what VISA has said publicly. If our money was 'safe' we'd have it back by now, it's tied up somewhere in that shitty bank.
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Can you imagine the amount of emails and ICQ's he was trying to reply back to, not to mention the paperwork and IDs people were submitting. I would love to see you in his situation and see just how well you would handle it. I got an reply back from my emails which I sent him within 24 hours. The guy was taking the full brunt of a lot of the stupidity of people on this board, he deserves more than a medal in my books
I have compassion for Michael O. At the end of the day he is an employee trying to do the best job he can for his company, trying to put out fires and defend the brand. He's going down with the ship without selling out his employer and many people find that level of loyalty and dedication to be admirable qualities.

Whatever did go down with Epassporte, I doubt it was something that came across his desk that sparked it. I think more than likely he probably believed as he was told, as the rest of us did, that we would be given some answers in Thursday's statement. Anyone who read that could tell it was hastily crafted, more than likely not penned by Michael O and if I had to guess probably the result of some quick manuvering at the behest of the company's lawyers.
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The problem is there are no FACTS coming from the company/company owner/reps. Michael said the business wires were going last Tuesday ....didnt happen. The statement coming Thursday was the most disappointing thing of the whole week because it said nothing and the fact that it appears (I am being nice) to have been written by a 3rd world blog writer.

I have a chunk of money in various Epass accounts and believe this will be sorted and I am not running around saying the world is coming to an end BUT for many on here it may well be financially. Yes there are assholes on GFY and we all sort of worked that out who probably have about $0 tied up but get their fun by yelling fire and watch the panic..... but the assholes are not the problem. The problem is that Epassporte are not telling anyone (except perhaps you) what is going on with their money.

I am not losing a moments sleep about my money but I dont like being told things that dont happen. I lived in Asia for years and I know how hard it is for guys there to receive funds and Europe is not exactly easy.

I think most here who cant access THEIR funds are actually being nice. If I was in their situation I would be far worse than them.
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The problem is there are no FACTS coming from the company/company owner/reps. Michael said the business wires were going last Tuesday ....didnt happen. The statement coming Thursday was the most disappointing thing of the whole week because it said nothing and the fact that it appears (I am being nice) to have been written by a 3rd world blog writer.

I have a chunk of money in various Epass accounts and believe this will be sorted and I am not running around saying the world is coming to an end BUT for many on here it may well be financially. Yes there are assholes on GFY and we all sort of worked that out who probably have about $0 tied up but get their fun by yelling fire and watch the panic..... but the assholes are not the problem. The problem is that Epassporte are not telling anyone (except perhaps you) what is going on with their money.

I am not losing a moments sleep about my money but I dont like being told things that dont happen. I lived in Asia for years and I know how hard it is for guys there to receive funds and Europe is not exactly easy.

I think most here who cant access THEIR funds are actually being nice. If I was in their situation I would be far worse than them.
now that's the fucking REAL DEAL..well said
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It seems like every mainstream source writing on it gets their information from GFY.

Which is kind of funny because whenever I try to send a link to someone from the 'fucking around' section they always tell me that its password protected.
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The wire is ON THE WAY. The money is in motion





Await for this weeks statement
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Old 09-12-2010, 05:25 PM   #187
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Its time to stop the fuckers!

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Old 09-12-2010, 05:47 PM   #188
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anyone received wire to bank?
I've heard that ACH transfers working, but never heard about wire.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:22 PM   #189
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I wonder when will anyone RECEIVE the wires...
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:39 PM   #190
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Old 09-13-2010, 02:40 PM   #191
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so any wires hit the bank yet?
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:39 PM   #192
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so any wires hit the bank yet?
Yes, flashfire have received the wire.
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Old 09-13-2010, 05:45 PM   #193
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It doesn't matter if some sponsors get the wires...

We, affiliate and average webmasters, should get them...

Sending a few wires to sponsors, is propaganda strategy to get more consense.. nothing else.

If 90% of people don't get the money, we are all still fucked.

Ditto.
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Old 09-14-2010, 06:37 AM   #194
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Shap? Anyone other then that one guy.
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:07 AM   #195
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I just received my wire today and it was 5digits. So they did do what they said they would do. Now i just hope they can clear up all VV issues.
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Old 09-14-2010, 08:19 AM   #196
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Old 09-14-2010, 09:09 AM   #197
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I've heard a few people are having wires come through, I think one or two people posted in the official epass threads as well that their wires have hit in the last 24 hrs.

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It doesn't matter if some sponsors get the wires...

We, affiliate and average webmasters, should get them...

Sending a few wires to sponsors, is propaganda strategy to get more consense.. nothing else.
Paying back the larger sponsors is good PR, it does build confidence in everyone to read that large dollar amounts are going out and being recieved- but in the end it will be how they treat webmasters, big and small, that will determine if epass can survive this.

I don't want to speak for others, but I think it's a pretty safe assumption that if there is still an epass when this is all over if webmasters want payment sent by epassporte sponors will oblidge.

Really what it comes down to is the satisfaction of the webmaster community. If webmasters no longer trust epassporte sponsors will stop funding their epassporte accounts. If webmasters decide they still want their earnings transfered through epass it would be bad business for sponsors to refuse, regardless of how any of us personally feel about the company at the end of the day.
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:19 PM   #198
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Hey Guys. I?ve been in constant contact with my rep (as well as a few other people) at Epassporte. Personally, the biggest thing I?ve been waiting to see is when wires would start being sent out. In my opinion that is the first step in the right direction. Today I heard one of my two wire requests was approved and sent. I have yet to receive it and as soon as I do I will update everyone. I believe this is the first step in the right direction.

I just wanted to add two things for you guys to think about.

First.. I?ve said this before and I think it?s worth repeating. This industry has had it?s fair share of companies that have gone under and disappeared with people?s money. Chris has been involved in a few situations where his companies ran into difficulties but EVERY single time those companies survived and paid everybody every single penny that was owed. I have never heard of a single person that Chris Mallick has screwed over. You may not like the guy but everything I?ve ever read shows that in a situation like this you WANT Chris Mallick involved. He?s our best chance at survival and getting paid. He fights his ass off and does whatever possible to make sure his clients get paid. That is huge in my opinion.

Second... You guys have to remember the people at Epassporte are human, they can read, and they have good memories. If you treat them like shit and rip them to shreds you can be DAMN sure it isn?t doing you any favors. I?ve seen this in the past. People that attack and try to bury a company usually get fucked the hardest. Those that are supportive and hopeful are usually the first to get paid. It?s human nature. Put yourself in their shoes. If you had 10 people that were supportive and 10 people that were real assholes. Who would you pay first? Might want to consider that before making your next post.

To those of you that think MiddleMen caused this. Are you kidding? Do you know how hollywood works? That movie started 3 years ago. He had all the money put aside in escrow back then. You think the big name stars he had would show up for a nobody if the money wasn?t guaranteed? Come on. The timing is ironic but that?s all it is.

All in all I think this is a step in the right direction. I?ve done a lot of research this week. I?ve made a lot of phone calls. There has been a lot of information posted that really makes the situation look bad. I?ll be honest I?ve been worried. But for every bad thing I?ve seen posted I?ve heard a good thing from people with some REAL knowledge of what?s going on. Obviously nobody is saying it publically because if it turns out to not be true the mob will turn their attention towards them. That said I think with funds starting to be released people should tone it down a little. People reporting this to the news, calling the feds etc is retarded. Have you read the posts on here this week? There are some great posts and some intelligent people HOWEVER for every great post there are 10 retarded ones. Our industry is under enough stress as it is. We don?t need any more.

Give the man time. If the wires went out today it?s a huge step and shows Epassporte is far from dead. Supporting them gives us a better shot of getting paid than attacking them.

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Old 09-23-2010, 07:20 PM   #199
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i tried....
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Old 09-23-2010, 07:21 PM   #200
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Cliff Notes:
EPASSPORTE FUCKING SCAMMED ME FOR 5k

I TRIED TO WARN WEBMASTERS FOR 3 YEARS THAT THEY RUN A SHIT
OPERATION AND HAVE NO PROBLEM LEAVING ACCOUNT HOLDER IN THE DUMPSTER

I TELL GFY 3 MONTS AGO THAT EPASS IS FUCKED AND GET THERE MONEY OUT

I ALMOST GET BANNED

THEY TAKE WEBMASTERS MONEY

I TRIED TO TELL WEBMASTERS THERE MONEY WAS GONE N TO GO TO ST KITTS

NOT MANY LISTNED ...MANY LOST MONEY..MANY LOOKED LIKE FOOLS KISSING EPASS ,CHRIS MALLICk,MICHAEL O STINKY BROWN EYE

EPASS TELLS EVERYON THERE FUCKED

WEBMASTERS GET OWNED BY EPASSPORTE

I FEEL BAD THIS HAPPEND AND GO BACK TO BEING A NOBODY ON GFY


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