How about Paypal?? Why aren't more sponsors offering this option?? - GoFuckYourself.com

tranza · 09-28-2010, 07:23 AM

I konw most people are affraid to use Paypal. But isn't it safe for affiliates?

I just got Topbucks e-mail, announcing that they will offer Paypal payouts, and after going through Paypal yesterday (I hadn't used it in maybe 3 years), I felt in love!

So, what do you guys think about Paypal???

Davy · 09-28-2010, 07:25 AM

because they'll freeze your account should they find out you are doing adult transactions.
And they'll keep your banking details on file, so that you can never open another account with the same details again.

mn · 09-28-2010, 07:26 AM

they don't allow adult transations (including aff payouts)... but if done correctly it's no problems at all using them

fatfoo · 09-28-2010, 07:26 AM

I think Paypal is a good payment method. However, I don't like that payments can be reversed.

spazlabz · 09-28-2010, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy

because they'll freeze your account should they find out you are doing adult transactions.
And they'll keep your banking details on file, so that you can never open another account with the same details again.

Agreed
in my opinion PayPal is a mine field for adult companies. Could go smooth but could explode in your face. While that is true for any potential payment processor the mines are bigger with them

Fiddler · 09-28-2010, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

I konw most people are affraid to use Paypal. But isn't it safe for affiliates?

I just got Topbucks e-mail, announcing that they will offer Paypal payouts, and after going through Paypal yesterday (I hadn't used it in maybe 3 years), I felt in love!

So, what do you guys think about Paypal???

As has been mentioned, they find out about it, they freeze the account sending, those receiving, funds trapped for a long time and account details blacklisted.

Risky stuff, yes can be done but is it worth the chance of putting yourself into a situation like epassporte where you can't get your funds?

ajrocks · 09-28-2010, 07:29 AM

They will also keep your money if they find out you are adult. Its happened to users and affiliate programs. Pay Pal is a bad option. I know there are people doing it, but it just takes one person to say something to the wrong person and Pay Pal will go down the line and shut down everyone they can connect.

gleem · 09-28-2010, 07:30 AM

We use PP, but I do feel like it's a mine field doing large mass pays with em all of a sudden.

mn · 09-28-2010, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

They will also keep your money if they find out you are adult.

that's not true...

first of all they close my account every year, but only for a few days... yes i use it for gambling and adult, but just make up a lie to them and they open it again...

and worst case is they close the account, but then you WILL get a check after 180 days for the amount unless we talk about fraud.

Agent 488 · 09-28-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mn

that's not true...

first of all they close my account every year, but only for a few days... yes i use it for gambling and adult, but just make up a lie to them and they open it again...

and worst case is they close the account, but then you WILL get a check after 180 days for the amount unless we talk about fraud.

what kind of excuse? may help someone out.

tranza · 09-28-2010, 07:35 AM

You can't sell porn through it, I know, I was around when they first implemented this policy it and some people got their accounts frozen...

But isn't it safe for affiliates? Wouldn't a huge sponsor like Topbucks be sure it's not a liability before offering it to affiliates??

mn · 09-28-2010, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

what kind of excuse? may help someone out.

say you did design work for example when you get adult payouts. be creative

also tell them how much you hate porn and how humiliated you feel if they don't trust you.

Agent 488 · 09-28-2010, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mn

say you did design work for example when you get adult payouts. be creative

also tell them how much you hate porn and how humiliated you feel if they don't trust you.

funny was thinking of the same excuse.

cubismo · 09-28-2010, 08:06 AM

i have a couple of sponsors paying by paypal. i just wish they would use a non adult email address....

fusionx · 09-28-2010, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

You can't sell porn through it, I know, I was around when they first implemented this policy it and some people got their accounts frozen...

But isn't it safe for affiliates? Wouldn't a huge sponsor like Topbucks be sure it's not a liability before offering it to affiliates??

It's totally fine and safe for affiliate programs to do payouts through PayPal. However, the affiliate program needs to disclose this with PayPal when they start.

The problems occur when people (or algos) at PayPal think the payouts are for other than services rendered, and they lock accounts.

tranza · 09-28-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fusionx

It's totally fine and safe for affiliate programs to do payouts through PayPal. However, the affiliate program needs to disclose this with PayPal when they start.

The problems occur when people (or algos) at PayPal think the payouts are for other than services rendered, and they lock accounts.

Yep, that's my understanding too. So the question is: why don't more sponsors offer this payout option?

rhizome · 09-28-2010, 08:40 AM

Doesn't Paypal charge like 3.9% in fees also?

HomerSimpson · 09-28-2010, 08:44 AM

they do not allow adult and gambling related payments...

CyberHustler · 09-28-2010, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Yep, that's my understanding too. So the question is: why don't more sponsors offer this payout option?

cause they would rather risk their funds with new alternatives so they can be down with the angry mob that got robbed next time...

PR_Glen · 09-28-2010, 08:48 AM

this is a short term solution.. wouldn't it make more sense to find a long term one? One that wont risk your money being frozen?

Babaganoosh · 09-28-2010, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Yep, that's my understanding too. So the question is: why don't more sponsors offer this payout option?

I had over $2k frozen in my account the first time and just less than $1k the second time for "adult transactions." Most of my transactions were incoming payments from mainstream affiliate programs. I would use the paypal card at gas stations and grocery stores. I never sold porn with paypal. After the second time I stopped using paypal for everything but ebay shit.

If you're cool with having your funds locked down for 30+ days at a time until they "investigate" and mail you a check then go ahead and use paypal.

Quagmire · 09-28-2010, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rhizome

Doesn't Paypal charge like 3.9% in fees also?

3.9% in fees vs. not getting paid at all? I'll take the 3.9% in fees.

Barefootsies · 09-28-2010, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

If you're cool with having your funds locked down for 30+ days at a time until they "investigate" and mail you a check then go ahead and use paypal.

Well said!

tranza · 09-28-2010, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

this is a short term solution.. wouldn't it make more sense to find a long term one?

Why is it a short term solution?

woj · 09-28-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I had over $2k frozen in my account the first time and just less than $1k the second time for "adult transactions." Most of my transactions were incoming payments from mainstream affiliate programs. I would use the paypal card at gas stations and grocery stores. I never sold porn with paypal. After the second time I stopped using paypal for everything but ebay shit.

If you're cool with having your funds locked down for 30+ days at a time until they "investigate" and mail you a check then go ahead and use paypal.

at least eventually you get your $$, I wouldn't be so sure with the current epass situation...

mn · 09-28-2010, 09:30 AM

they don't allow adult affiliate payments although some support people will tell you they do. but they are not so strict about it. they will never steal funds. worst case is 180 days waiting for a check.

just use non adult email, always tell them it's non adult transactions even though you get a payment from momfuckedbyhugecocks dot com. they are stupid and it never takes more than a week (more often 2 days) to get account unlocked. happened so many times i lost count.

Agent 488 · 09-28-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tranza

Why is it a short term solution?

in the end it is best to use someone 100% cool with adult so you don't worry your account gets froze.

JayDeeZee · 09-28-2010, 10:10 AM

We at Gamelink offer PayPal as a payout option.

gooddomains · 09-28-2010, 10:14 AM

paypal should work fine for affiliate cash

Denny · 09-28-2010, 10:44 AM

Paypal is fine

TheEnforcer · 09-28-2010, 11:59 AM

They will freeze your accounts in a heartbeat....

michael.kickass · 09-28-2010, 12:04 PM

They have ridiculously high taxes.

tranza · 09-28-2010, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by michael.kickass

They have ridiculously high taxes.

I haven't really used them to receive money.

What type of fees do they charge?

I see that bank withdrawl are free...

u-Bob · 09-28-2010, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rhizome

Doesn't Paypal charge like 3.9% in fees also?

0% when receiving a masspayment.

v4 media · 09-28-2010, 02:22 PM

no fees on online checks.. they take 3 days to clear though.

closer · 09-28-2010, 02:33 PM

I am seeing paypal as payment option on more and more adult web stores, does Paypal distinguish between tangible and digital adult products?

kristin · 09-28-2010, 02:41 PM

If using PayPal I would suggest making sure your email sounds business oriented and not porn.

[email protected] or [email protected] might not be the best choice.

[email protected] usually works the best.

kristin · 09-28-2010, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mn

they don't allow adult affiliate payments although some support people will tell you they do. but they are not so strict about it. they will never steal funds. worst case is 180 days waiting for a check.

just use non adult email, always tell them it's non adult transactions even though you get a payment from momfuckedbyhugecocks dot com. they are stupid and it never takes more than a week (more often 2 days) to get account unlocked. happened so many times i lost count.

The last time PP froze people's accounts for WM payouts, they held the money for X days and then paid it out - with interest added.

CyberHustler · 09-28-2010, 02:51 PM

outside of checks, direct deposit, and shit... im only fuckin with paypal

tranza · 09-28-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

The last time PP froze people's accounts for WM payouts, they held the money for X days and then paid it out - with interest added.

Now that's nice...

uno · 09-28-2010, 05:11 PM

I wonder how much Epass was making on interest and how much they are currently making on interest in the Wallet on funds that they haven't paid out yet. Maybe it'll be enough to keep them solvent. lol.

tranza · 09-29-2010, 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by uno

I wonder how much Epass was making on interest and how much they are currently making on interest in the Wallet on funds that they haven't paid out yet. Maybe it'll be enough to keep them solvent. lol.

You're kidding, right?

candyflip · 09-29-2010, 07:08 AM

I've never had issues. So long as you're not an idiot, like Kristin pointed out...you should be safe.

rewn · 10-08-2010, 09:54 PM

Paypal is fine, all the big sponsors like AFF are using it.

Loch · 10-08-2010, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza

I konw most people are affraid to use Paypal. But isn't it safe for affiliates?

I just got Topbucks e-mail, announcing that they will offer Paypal payouts, and after going through Paypal yesterday (I hadn't used it in maybe 3 years), I felt in love!

So, what do you guys think about Paypal???

I think that for Adult webmasters Paypal is the biggest gamble of all time.
And i dont understand how sponsors have the balls to do it either unless its a HUGE one that has enough pull to do a custom contract with Paypal.....

k0nr4d · 10-08-2010, 10:32 PM

I just wire the money out as soon as it hits the account...

grumpy · 10-13-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by cubismo

i have a couple of sponsors paying by paypal. i just wish they would use a non adult email address....

name of sponsors?

CyberHustler · 10-15-2010, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Loch

I think that for Adult webmasters Paypal is the biggest gamble of all time.

Seems paypal has proven to be the safest though... So you think wrong on this.

RyuLion · 10-15-2010, 08:04 AM

A couple of programs have been using them "under the radar" to pay..

SekobA · 10-15-2010, 08:17 AM

Does Paypal offers Visa or any othere brand Card which can be use on ATM?

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tranza ICQ: 197-556-237 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: BRASIL !!! Posts: 57,559	You can't sell porn through it, I know, I was around when they first implemented this policy it and some people got their accounts frozen... But isn't it safe for affiliates? Wouldn't a huge sponsor like Topbucks be sure it's not a liability before offering it to affiliates?? __________________ I'm just a newbie.

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