DVTimes

why would anyone bother to promote and get grief for doing so.

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DVTimes

crazy email

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Horny Joe

Agree! Got it as well, but stopped promoting them a long time ago.... They just seems so... well, you know

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signupdamnit

Did you have these up from long ago or have you recently promoted them?

They are an example of why I tend to avoid sponsors who seem prone to micromanage affiliates. It's usually nothing but trouble.

DamianJ

Just stop promoting pretend incest and he will go away!

DVTimes

i stoped.

well to be honest the promo stuff is so pointless that i could not be bothered using it.

plus most of the members area is on a lot of forums now.

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epitome

Oh the irony! He is too busy paying attention to what affiliates are doing and no time trying to figure out what the pirates are doing.

signupdamnit

That's the ironic part with sponsors who do this. They won't let affiliates use the content enough or provide enough content yet shit loads of pirates are distributing their full content all over the internet. It's stupid. Affiliates over distributing content might nave been an issue in 2005 but now there are bigger issues to worry about like siterips on torrents and full videos on rapidshare.

DVTimes

i think i will go have a look at a few forums to see is somone has posted any new content from the site.

One forum has a thread of 16 pages of content from this site.

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Agent 488

Your Affiliate account(s) has/have been deactivated due to violation of acceptable use policy.

Notes from CCBill:
2 Attempts were made to contact the Affiliate. Affiliate does not wish to comply by reducing the amount of promotional materials used (FHG's) in one Affiliate website location. Over promoting our website(s) is not allowed. When Affiliate reduces the amount of FHG's to 4 or less per affiliate website location, account will be reinstated. Please note, item # 8 in our TOS, no posting FHG's on permanent public boards that do not update and remove their links after 10 days. Account suspended until matter is corrected.

website noted:
http://sxx.com/search/query/q/apple+.../0/type/2.html
http://sxx.com/search/query.html?q=j...s&adv=0&type=2

Thank you,
CCBil

ArsewithClass

pretending??? Ironic that divvy wants to pretend to be Natalie or me... how immature.


Were in the porn business.... business is business... what sells, sells!





Fucking morons!

ArsewithClass

And before you reply with a "fuck off pimp" or "fuck off gypo" or "cheap man" or any other bullshit...


Dont bother... you cant hold a camera straight, you cant make decent footage & your a tosser! I dont live in a caravan, I can spell & I aint a fucking ugly bald bastard.

signupdamnit

Did you have any rebills with them?

ruff

I'm done and I'm tired of getting emails from them. They are free to do what they like without me.

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Agent 488

nah



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DVTimes

first may i point out that again you have hyjacked this thread.

Now you have acused me of pretending to be you and/or nat. Can you post proof of your lies please.

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Agent 488

this is a serious thread about alpha sky productions. why you have to come and derailit into a discussion about giant glory holes. mind your manners.

DVTimes

crazy

i wonder how many still bother to promote them.

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DVTimes

What anoyed me most was that when I first read the email I thought I had posted somthing on a forum.

I thought I had done somthing wrong.

I know some people will think this email is directly sent to them rather than all there affiliates.

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DVTimes

if affiliates promote your site badly and do not get sales its only them who loose out.

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ArsewithClass

So why talk to a moron that wants to waste 10mins looking for an old thread of mine, just to bump it... He is a fucking child. When are you going to understand.



Fucking twats.

ArsewithClass

why not promote other companies & stop whinging, you fucking idiotic moron!






You are so intollerable!


When I see a problem with a company, I just move on....



Its not as major as a small time program saying they give affiliates 50% and only give them 42.5% by making them pay ccbill fees. Its a little box that needs ticking in the ccbill webmaster program. I wonder how many programs do that!? We dont!



Have you many updates this week divvy? We have a couple as usual...

signupdamnit

So you're starting by harassing your affiliates who are doing nothing more than posting your free promotional content. Do you even go after the pirates or have you not gotten around to that yet?

To top it off did people post this stuff before or after you came up with this new policy? Are users even able to edit posts on that forum after such a long period? I don't think you realize how much affiliates hate this kind of stuff. It's your business and no one has to promote you but I think you should be more reasonable.

AlphaSky

Everybody loses when consumers are given everything for free. No sales to the affiliate and no sales to the site owners.

The current model of FREE FREE FREE does not work. It will take years for owners to put the "plastic wraps" back on their content and make people "purchase" instead of browse for free.

You don't see guys in 7-11 jerking off the to the magazines on the rack, then putting the magazine back.... make them pay for it first.

DVTimes

why are you posting/hyjacking this thread?

Do you promote the twins? No

So why post in this thread?

Why enter a thread just to post abuse?

Have you posted anything about the site/twins? No.

You just desided to post abuse.

Its a discrace.

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DVTimes

go away.

this thread has nothing to do with you.

you just came on to post abuse and hyjack the thread.

time to ban you.

now go away.

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DVTimes

Or you could see it as more post the odd pics, the more your site becomes well known.

I know some sites that do huge sales becase they are so heavily posted that people join.

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AlphaSky

We are not harrassing affiliates for over promoting, we are protecting our affiliates that are selling our content for future sales as well as our own survival.

I can't keep addressing the same issues. It does seem that most posters here do not even rep our content and just like to fight online.

We have many affiliates who are very happy with us and understand how we run our business. There are only a small few that are over promoting and once the correction is made, everything will be fine as before.

All we ask is to delete the over promoting. It's time to think about the future of the site model.

AlphaSky

It's late and I gotta run. It only takes one person to stand up and say, "something has to change." Then others will follow.

Who knows, maybe one day we can all take the internet back and have the surfers pay. Not sure why everybody gives it all away for free.

Have a nice one... I'll check back tomorrow.

Play nice! ;)

Agent 488

please quit with the harassment.

signupdamnit

I signed up with you but stopped promoting after one of the first incidents. Even though you seemed very clueless then I thought I'd give you a chance.

I think you should reconsider what is reasonable. It's hard to understand how you run your business because it would seem you keep changing the rules all the time. As I recall it this policy of limiting the amount of free content used is rather new. Then before that you were going to switch processors and force all affiliates to change links. I also believe it was you who called a couple affiliates out specifically in a mass email?

It's your business but I'm telling you that affiliates do not appreciate these kind of hassles and most will not put up with it.

ArsewithClass

Ironic... when the boots on the other foot



My threads have fuck all to do with you, but you some how keep them going for 6 pages....



This has everything to do with me, you want to pretend to be me, I could be you... lets act like children you ugly, bald, cant hold the camera straight, moron!


How about doing an update for your websites... check out 2 of our updates monday morning on www.mygloryholeconfessions.com & www.adult-excitement.com

The update for adult-excitement is "Fantasy on Elm Street" starring Freddie Cruder!

ottopottomouse

The example you have given is forums.

You ARE aware that even if people could remember where they had posted something and find it again a lot of forums DON'T have an edit facility?

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ottopottomouse

Usually that one person gets stoned to death or crucified.

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Agent 488

surfers post my galleries on forums all over the net in threads about the favorite girls. how the fuck can you edit something you never posted?

signupdamnit

Even though the policy itself is a bit crazy I think it would have been more reasonable to make it "from this day forward" rather than to make it retroactive and ask people to delete stuff that used to be in line with her terms before the new rule.

spazlabz

This is not directed at AlphaSky but at the concept of 'over promoting'.

It is my personal opinion that if a sponsor is providing their affiliates with hundreds or even thousands of FHGs or HFLVs or any other kind of promotional material that they are implying the use of that material at the affiliates discretion.

IMO if a surfer goes to a site and sees a ton of promotional material for certain sites, they will remember that site. The more they see the better the branding and I never underestimate the value of branding

As long as the promotional material is not giving too much away on any one FHG (as an example) the better. They get to see that the site has a lot of content and it is content they like.

It is up to us as sponsors to do the tease whether the surfer is looking at one gallery or a hundred of them. It is up to the affiliate to get the tease in front of the surfers eyes




your results may vary

signupdamnit

AlphaSky,

One thing I don't think you understand is that many affiliates promote 500+ sponsors. Imagine if each one of them changed link codes, wanted me to pull galleries, or otherwise radically changed their rules every other month in a way which required hours of my time with each occurrence. There would be no way that I'd ever have any time for promotion. I'd be too busy catering to the whims of my 500+ sponsors. Please keep us in mind when you make policy changes. There's usually a way to make things less of a hassle while still getting things done... Good luck with your business.

ArsewithClass

Agreed. You cant start deleting galleries, but you can ask affiliates not to promote as much... Its all still a bit silly.


Its still all promotion & exclusive. I think the program should just not offer as much & forget emailing their clients with this crap...



I also continue to think that its a ridiculous situation for a mindless fool to post this thread, considering his program has no new updates, galleries or content

Tjeezers

Have u ever seen a midget controlling an army of Giants?
Your not going to be the one, never will be. You are a NO BODY.
Anyone who wants to promote fake incest, will find 10 persons better then you

I know you have nothing to lose, cause you collect well fare checks on a regular base, but he, let me tell like this, your going in to history as a giant fuck up

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Agent 488

gary please stop hyjacking the thread we have serious internet business to discuss here.

ShellyCrash

The only person being a child in this thread is you. This has nothing to do with you or your program and you're taking a bad stand on this issue so you can argue with someone for the sake of arguing.



As for the real issue at hand in this thread, I think what's grating on affiliates is rather than send an email out to the specific webmasters on a case by case basis it was blasted out to the entire program list. In effect, whether intentional or not, your chastising every webmaster who's taken the time to register for your program for something the majority have not done.

If the issue is you don't want affiliates spamming message boards with unwelcome content it shouldn't be difficult to locate which affiliates are spamming the message boards and contact them directly. If the issue is you don't want your promotional content posted on websites that are high volume and low conversion, if it's promotional content you are making available through your program and you're affiliates aren't posting it where it's unwanted or unlawful, it does seem like a hollow complaint. While I know TGP directories and the like don't convert like they used to, it does seem a bit odd that you wouldn't want your promotional content added, if thats what you're trying to say.

Regardless of the point you're trying to make, it's still best addressed individually with the webmasters who's activity you are unhappy with, rather than your entire program on the whole. The email does read like you are unhappy with the specific performance of the recipient, that they have somehow engaged in practices you find to be unsavory, when in fact it's most likely not the case. It's your program to run as you wish, just trying to drop my 2 cents on how others might see it and why your affiliates feel like they are being micromanaged.

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loreen

Same here. Not worth the trouble.

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They sent another email.

18teens

That's the most retarded email from a program owner that I've ever read. Stop harassing your affiliates AlphaSky.

Agent 488

this guy is ridiculous.

DVTimes

Gary go away.

You have nothing to do with this.

Your just hyjacking the thread and making yourself look foolish.

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As for AlphaSky.

I just cannot belive they are doing themselves so much harm.

These guys could be making millions.

Yet they mess around this way.

I am sure they belive they are doing the correct thing but I do not think they realise that affiliates simply read these emails and think, what is the point of bothering when in 4 weeks time they may get an email to change somthing or other.

Its just too much bother.

My advide to AlphaSky is just let a\ffiliates do what they do. Let them get the sales for you and not worry too much.

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Slutboat

hmmmm what alpha sky thinks HURTS them actually HELPS them....

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Domain Broker

Actually, it works quite well.

You should be more concerned with how you treated the few affiliates you once had rather than some random sites having a few extra pictures up of your ugly whores.

You went from barely making any sales and barely surviving to essentially killing your shitty program completely, congratulations.