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signupdamnit · 10-02-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DVTimes

My advide to AlphaSky is just let a\ffiliates do what they do. Let them get the sales for you and not worry too much.

There's probably another risk as well which no one seems to ever consider. At least in the U.S. (which I don't believe applies to Alphasky) there might be a point where an Independent Contractor might possibly become an employee in the eyes of the IRS when enough micromanagement is occurring.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...179111,00.html
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...=99921,00.html

Quote:

Recommendations: Just because someone is labeled as an independent contractor does not mean that the courts will agree with the classification. If a contractee-independent contractor relationship is to be established, it is important implement the following recommendations:

<...>

do not reserve the right to control the work to be done or the manner in which it is to be performed;
do not micro-manage the way the independent contractor is to perform the required duties;

avoid any day-to-day or direct supervision over the independent contractor;

<...>

http://www.pa-newspaper.org/web/2005..._handbook.aspx

I doubt this would be enough but I think it's possible that it is starting to push things. Just something for US sponsors to consider.

HowlingWulf · 10-02-2010, 08:51 AM

A lot of surfers post gallery urls on those forums, something the affiliate does not control.

scouser · 10-02-2010, 08:57 AM

probably more stuff on radpishare forums than affiliate galleries because of their stupid "rules"

they need to hire an affiliate manager whos worked with adult sites before. preferably whos been an affiliate too tbh.

ArsewithClass · 10-02-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

The only person being a child in this thread is you. This has nothing to do with you or your program and you're taking a bad stand on this issue so you can argue with someone for the sake of arguing

Exactly... Im being a child... why not!? Ive had enough of the bullshit twitter account that divvy wants to impersonate me.

Until he finished the stupidness, Im going to quote that his fims & content are shit, as they are, the clicking of the camera zoom & the wobbly hand job. I shall ask if he cheats his affiliates out of 7.5% payment, by paying ccbill before paying affiliates & I shall also say that we update this website every week, followed by asking divvy if he does.

If the idiot can get away with it sober, fuck it.... i can do the same with a few beers down my throat

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

Gary go away.

Your just hyjacking the thread and making yourself look foolish.

No, I wont go away you lunatic.... Get my name off your sig....

Hijacking, yes... why not? You hijack mine, dont you...

I feel like being a fucking moron today also! Im enjoying a few beers & to be honest I do not give a flying fuck. BTW, if youre going to accuse someone of something, spell it fucking right you dumb fuck.

I thought I would promote this new site... DVTIMES

Slutboat · 10-02-2010, 10:41 AM

ArsewithClass · 10-02-2010, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

I shall ask if he cheats his affiliates out of 7.5% payment

I thought I would promote this new site... DVTIMES

Do you notice how I ask... I do not accuse.

ArsewithClass · 10-02-2010, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slutboat

Guns dont kill people, people kill people

Divvy should play on the motorway, but he cannot leave his home after 9 at night... the police have banned him from leaving his home.

Im only joking btw...

AZNNC · 10-02-2010, 10:54 AM

These sites fit perfect into my traffic. I bet I could sell the shit out of these girls but removed them long ago. Don't promote things from glue sniffing webbies.

DBS.US · 10-02-2010, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZNNC

Don't promote things from glue sniffing webbies.

GFY Rules and Regulations #9: accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

ottopottomouse · 10-02-2010, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ShellyCrash

The only person being a child in this thread is you. This has nothing to do with you or your program and you're taking a bad stand on this issue so you can argue with someone for the sake of arguing.

As for the real issue at hand in this thread, I think what's grating on affiliates is rather than send an email out to the specific webmasters on a case by case basis it was blasted out to the entire program list. In effect, whether intentional or not, your chastising every webmaster who's taken the time to register for your program for something the majority have not done.

If the issue is you don't want affiliates spamming message boards with unwelcome content it shouldn't be difficult to locate which affiliates are spamming the message boards and contact them directly. If the issue is you don't want your promotional content posted on websites that are high volume and low conversion, if it's promotional content you are making available through your program and you're affiliates aren't posting it where it's unwanted or unlawful, it does seem like a hollow complaint. While I know TGP directories and the like don't convert like they used to, it does seem a bit odd that you wouldn't want your promotional content added, if thats what you're trying to say.

Regardless of the point you're trying to make, it's still best addressed individually with the webmasters who's activity you are unhappy with, rather than your entire program on the whole. The email does read like you are unhappy with the specific performance of the recipient, that they have somehow engaged in practices you find to be unsavory, when in fact it's most likely not the case. It's your program to run as you wish, just trying to drop my 2 cents on how others might see it and why your affiliates feel like they are being micromanaged.

well put

ottopottomouse · 10-02-2010, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

GFY Rules and Regulations #9: accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

I didn't see it as an accusation relating to cheating or anything else other than the equivalent of saying they live in a dream world.

miss_bellabellini · 10-02-2010, 11:47 AM

Alpha Sky, it is mostly surfers who are posting affiliate links on peachy forum. They like to find every single gallery of a particular model and add it to the model's thread.

If you are really unhappy about the threads of your models on peachy forum you can probably report it to the moderator. I've had the moderator take down posts in my thread by just using the report post message. I was reporting posts of members area content, but you could still try.

I know Ariel Rebel wasn't happy with Peachy Forum for some reason and they took her thread down. Anyway it is better to deal with them directly than your affiliates.

ArsewithClass · 10-02-2010, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZNNC

These sites fit perfect into my traffic. I bet I could sell the shit out of these girls but removed them long ago. Don't promote things from glue sniffing webbies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

GFY Rules and Regulations #9: accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

I didn't see it as an accusation relating to cheating or anything else other than the equivalent of saying they live in a dream world.

DBS.US was saying that AZNNC shouldnt have accused them of being "glue sniffing webbies".

ottopottomouse · 10-02-2010, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArsewithClass

DBS.US was saying that AZNNC shouldnt have accused them of being "glue sniffing webbies".

I know.

I just didn't see it as an actual accusation.

(Trying to think of something humorous to say about you now that isn't an actual accusation but I can't.
Vodka kills brain cells as i'm sure Teencat would agree)

zeuse · 10-02-2010, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaSky

This is what we are trying to change in regards to over promoting:
http://sxx.com/search/query/q/apple+.../0/type/2.html

Thanks for that... whats your next link, father and son?

DVTimes · 10-02-2010, 03:25 PM

gary, in this thread you state i set and run this twitter site:

http://twitter.com/farcewithclass

can you prove it please.

i post the link but i do not run it.

so please provide proof.

if not.

tut tut.

ArsewithClass · 10-02-2010, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes

gary, in this thread you state i set and run this twitter site.

Its in your sig & while you have an impersonating twitter account in your sig, I shall continue to wonder how stupid you can become.

What adult webmaster dedicates half his day to twittering on bollocks, searching & snooping around my websites, profiles, business & private life. What webmaster quotes comments in his sig & then places links to fake accounts.

Dont come at me with the "post the proof" lines when it is you that has said on many occasions bullshit with no proof about me, you mental case... youre an idiot

DVTimes · 10-02-2010, 04:20 PM

gary i have it in my sig as i find it amuzing.

if i put google.com in my sig, will you belive i run and own google?

you realy are a right twit.

and all i have ever stated about you was that you pimp your wife who is a prostetute for £50 for unsafe sex with stragers. These are ALL things you have stated on this forum. Thus I have posted only what you have stated yourself. Also I said you had rape on your site, again thats true. Also I said that I did not belive that the two model sites that you said you run that make the models £500 a year still exsist - so far you have not been able to post the links to them.

So what Gary have I said thats not true.

I did say you hyjacked this thread to post abuse about others. I also stated that you have no right to post in this thread as it has nothing to do with you and its just your way to post your spam. Again true.

I have never ever said anything un-true about you.

I hope that clears things up.

But to be honest I suspect you only posted to turn this thread into it being about you.

Do not post again in it.

If you wish to comment please start a new (your own) thread, where I will be happy to answer your questions.

I will post links to any evidence you wish.

Thank you.

PS

Again I have that twitter in my sig as I find it witty. You do also know I have the www.arsewithclass.co.uk in my sig which i a\lso do not own. but i find it realy rather wittty to read.

AZNNC · 10-02-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBS.US

GFY Rules and Regulations #9: accusations against a person or company. We all want to know what companies and individuals have done you wrong. Just make sure you back any claims you make up with solid proof. If you plan on calling someone a scammer, liar, cheat, or anything else, have your proof in order and post it with your claim. False accusations will be grounds for immediate banning.

Do you need a tissue to wipe that man cream off your chin?

AlphaSky · 10-02-2010, 07:53 PM

Just a quick note... We didn't "Close down" our program and burn affiliates like so many site owners do. We don't skim sales and rip people off like so many program owners do.

We have solid 3rd party billing and all our affiliates ALWAYS get paid on time. That is really what this is all about, getting paid.

Come on, how many sites have stolen people's money & shut down over night. We are just trying to survive. Sure we are not perfect but we are working hard to keep sales in our affiliates pockets every year, not just this month.

How many sites go bottom up the first 6 month to 1 year? Like 95% of them?

We are still here, making money for our affiliates. Please don't condem us because of our over promoting rules. It's hard to enforce small rules. We sent emails out to our affiliates, but only a FEW were over posting. That's all. Not a huge ordeal.

So when we get ignored, we simply suspend a few accounts to "shake things up" and get them to make the needed corrections. It's not fair to our affiliates that are promoting correctly that some affiliates can ignore the rules and damage other affiliates future sales.

In regards to public board posting of affiiate links, ie: peachyforum, et al, we are working as well to have them remove the posts. We are not suspending accounts simply because they are in peachy forum. However, we do ask that the affiliate to alter the url with a re direct if the link can not be removed. It's a small bit of effort to ensure long term sales of some very hot content, which all of our affiliates benefit from by selling.

Thank you for reading and understanding our side of the situation.

I know many site owners understand the problems of over promotion. Our affiliates will make more sales in the long run by not over promoting... and that's what it's all about. Making some $$$ to pay the bills.

AlphaSky · 10-02-2010, 08:15 PM

This is what we are trying to stop for all our sakes. So our affiliates and ourselves can continue making sales.

We love and need our affiliates and must protect them from this type of over promotion.

Even the most reasonable person can see how damaging this is for sales.

http://sxx.com/search/query/q/apple+.../0/type/2.html

There must be some type of control.

mgtarheels · 10-02-2010, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlphaSky

This is what we are trying to stop for all our sakes. So our affiliates and ourselves can continue making sales.

We love and need our affiliates and must protect them from this type of over promotion.

Even the most reasonable person can see how damaging this is for sales.

http://sxx.com/search/query/q/apple+.../0/type/2.html

There must be some type of control.

I didn't even see a tit? Where's the issue?

ArsewithClass · 10-03-2010, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

I know.

I just didn't see it as an actual accusation.

(Trying to think of something humorous to say about you now that isn't an actual accusation but I can't.
Vodka kills brain cells as i'm sure Teencat would agree)

Fair play, or its not the vodka killing thy brain cells. The tit for tat bollocks gets boring.

I cant be bothered to reply back to divvys post after reading it "Bla bla bla, bla bla bla", just the same bullshit about pimping or living in a caravan, obviously all a load of bollocks! How mind numbingly boring can a person be

Roald · 10-03-2010, 02:44 AM

http://www.freeones.com/html/a_links...php?period=all
http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links...php?period=all

Less free content, less FHGs, less people knowing about the girls!

Looks like its working perfectly.

rowan · 10-03-2010, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

It's your business but I'm telling you that affiliates do not appreciate these kind of hassles and most will not put up with it.

AlphaSky has been told this many, many, many times.

Too pig headed to realise that s/he could be making a ton more money by relaxing a bit. S/he's a control freak.

DVTimes · 10-03-2010, 10:02 AM

bump for today

candyflip · 10-03-2010, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

http://www.freeones.com/html/a_links...php?period=all
http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links...php?period=all

Less free content, less FHGs, less people knowing about the girls!

Looks like its working perfectly.

I was going to use you guys as a counter to what he was trying to say.

Glad you beat me to it.

DamianJ · 10-03-2010, 10:17 AM

at least this stops the pretend incest peddler's 14 page car crash thread from being on the front page for a while, and that is A Good Thing.

ottopottomouse · 10-03-2010, 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald

http://www.freeones.com/html/a_links...php?period=all
http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links...php?period=all

Less free content, less FHGs, less people knowing about the girls!

Looks like its working perfectly.

What are the stats based on Roald

Is it searches on FreeOnes or something else?

Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-03-2010, 11:52 AM

This guy is a fucking retard.
I made close to 2K just from one link someone posted on peachy forum

10-02-2010, 08:51 AM	#52
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10-02-2010, 10:41 AM	#55
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10-02-2010, 11:47 AM	#62
miss_bellabellini Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Toronto Posts: 533	Alpha Sky, it is mostly surfers who are posting affiliate links on peachy forum. They like to find every single gallery of a particular model and add it to the model's thread. If you are really unhappy about the threads of your models on peachy forum you can probably report it to the moderator. I've had the moderator take down posts in my thread by just using the report post message. I was reporting posts of members area content, but you could still try. I know Ariel Rebel wasn't happy with Peachy Forum for some reason and they took her thread down. Anyway it is better to deal with them directly than your affiliates. __________________ bella.bellini at gmail.com Check out my official site!

10-02-2010, 03:25 PM	#66
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	gary, in this thread you state i set and run this twitter site: http://twitter.com/farcewithclass can you prove it please. i post the link but i do not run it. so please provide proof. if not. tut tut. __________________ The Affiliate Program

10-02-2010, 04:20 PM	#68
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	gary i have it in my sig as i find it amuzing. if i put google.com in my sig, will you belive i run and own google? you realy are a right twit. and all i have ever stated about you was that you pimp your wife who is a prostetute for £50 for unsafe sex with stragers. These are ALL things you have stated on this forum. Thus I have posted only what you have stated yourself. Also I said you had rape on your site, again thats true. Also I said that I did not belive that the two model sites that you said you run that make the models £500 a year still exsist - so far you have not been able to post the links to them. So what Gary have I said thats not true. I did say you hyjacked this thread to post abuse about others. I also stated that you have no right to post in this thread as it has nothing to do with you and its just your way to post your spam. Again true. I have never ever said anything un-true about you. I hope that clears things up. But to be honest I suspect you only posted to turn this thread into it being about you. Do not post again in it. If you wish to comment please start a new (your own) thread, where I will be happy to answer your questions. I will post links to any evidence you wish. Thank you. PS Again I have that twitter in my sig as I find it witty. You do also know I have the www.arsewithclass.co.uk in my sig which i a\lso do not own. but i find it realy rather wittty to read. __________________ The Affiliate Program

10-02-2010, 08:57 AM	#53
scouser marketer. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: bcn Posts: 2,280	probably more stuff on radpishare forums than affiliate galleries because of their stupid "rules" they need to hire an affiliate manager whos worked with adult sites before. preferably whos been an affiliate too tbh.

10-02-2010, 10:54 AM	#58
AZNNC Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 592	These sites fit perfect into my traffic. I bet I could sell the shit out of these girls but removed them long ago. Don't promote things from glue sniffing webbies.

10-02-2010, 07:53 PM	#70
AlphaSky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,013	Just a quick note... We didn't "Close down" our program and burn affiliates like so many site owners do. We don't skim sales and rip people off like so many program owners do. We have solid 3rd party billing and all our affiliates ALWAYS get paid on time. That is really what this is all about, getting paid. Come on, how many sites have stolen people's money & shut down over night. We are just trying to survive. Sure we are not perfect but we are working hard to keep sales in our affiliates pockets every year, not just this month. How many sites go bottom up the first 6 month to 1 year? Like 95% of them? We are still here, making money for our affiliates. Please don't condem us because of our over promoting rules. It's hard to enforce small rules. We sent emails out to our affiliates, but only a FEW were over posting. That's all. Not a huge ordeal. So when we get ignored, we simply suspend a few accounts to "shake things up" and get them to make the needed corrections. It's not fair to our affiliates that are promoting correctly that some affiliates can ignore the rules and damage other affiliates future sales. In regards to public board posting of affiiate links, ie: peachyforum, et al, we are working as well to have them remove the posts. We are not suspending accounts simply because they are in peachy forum. However, we do ask that the affiliate to alter the url with a re direct if the link can not be removed. It's a small bit of effort to ensure long term sales of some very hot content, which all of our affiliates benefit from by selling. Thank you for reading and understanding our side of the situation. I know many site owners understand the problems of over promotion. Our affiliates will make more sales in the long run by not over promoting... and that's what it's all about. Making some $$$ to pay the bills.

10-02-2010, 08:15 PM	#71
AlphaSky Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,013	This is what we are trying to stop for all our sakes. So our affiliates and ourselves can continue making sales. We love and need our affiliates and must protect them from this type of over promotion. Even the most reasonable person can see how damaging this is for sales. http://sxx.com/search/query/q/apple+.../0/type/2.html There must be some type of control.

10-03-2010, 02:44 AM	#74
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,877	http://www.freeones.com/html/a_links...php?period=all http://www.freeones.com/html/j_links...php?period=all Less free content, less FHGs, less people knowing about the girls! Looks like its working perfectly. __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| skype:roaldr \| icq:

10-03-2010, 10:02 AM	#76
DVTimes xxx Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 31,544	bump for today __________________ The Affiliate Program

10-03-2010, 10:17 AM	#78
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	at least this stops the pretend incest peddler's 14 page car crash thread from being on the front page for a while, and that is A Good Thing.

10-03-2010, 11:52 AM	#80
Fbomb - BANNED FOR LIFE So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2010 Location: Mexifornia Posts: 970	This guy is a fucking retard. I made close to 2K just from one link someone posted on peachy forum