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Old 10-13-2010, 07:03 AM   #1
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CCbill and Epassporte in bed together?

http://chris-mallick.com/index.php?o...=65&Ite mid=1

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based on those pictures, I'd say at least some clarification about the nature of their relationship (friends or business partners) would be in order. so, imo it's a valid question.
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Ccbill have their own plane? WTF?

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Interesting, I doubt he has anything to do with ccbill... Unless of course ccbill hires Mallick, haha. Good friends within the same wing of the industry?
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I doubt CCbill had anything to do with epassporte, they are two separate companies and CCBill never promoted that product or endorsed it.

Ron posted he is friends with Chris and I'm sure they've done business together, Ron possibly helped finance the movie, who knows, it's all speculation but when it comes to CCbill being involved with epass I would say no.

But what do I know, I have a tendency you always give the benefit of the doubt.
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The guys have been friends for a long time now... Hell if you want to go after everyone who's been in a picture with Chris Mallick or as been seen talking to him then put me in that list Choker...

LOL you're taking this a bit to far putting Ron in bed with Chris

Also Ron does not owe ANY explications to any of you guys... As far as CCbill is concern they are leader in billing online adult and that's a FACT!!!
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Well I had heard Ron had a small part in the movie.
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Yes. Want to see the interior?

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The guys have been friends for a long time now... Hell if you want to go after everyone who's been in a picture with Chris Mallick or as been seen talking to him then put me in that list Choker...

LOL you're taking this a bit to far putting Ron in bed with Chris

Also Ron does not owe ANY explications to any of you guys... As far as CCbill is concern they are leader in billing online adult and that's a FACT!!!
you even read what was posted on that site idiot? one you get your nose out of ron's ass maybe you should click that link.
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The guys have been friends for a long time now... Hell if you want to go after everyone who's been in a picture with Chris Mallick or as been seen talking to him then put me in that list Choker...

LOL you're taking this a bit to far putting Ron in bed with Chris

Also Ron does not owe ANY explications to any of you guys... As far as CCbill is concern they are leader in billing online adult and that's a FACT!!!
I'm not taking anything too far. I'm exploring where my FUCKING money disapeared to. IF and that's a big IF, IF wallet funds were used directly or as collateral to finance Chris Mallicks movie company then I have the right to and will most certainly dig DEEP into any and all relationships his movie company has. It's called following the money trail.
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For some reason that just looks really hot to me. No idea why. I didn't know I was into stewardesses or planes or anything, but damn that's hot.
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
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I'm not taking anything too far. I'm exploring where my FUCKING money disapeared to. IF and that's a big IF, IF wallet funds were used directly or as collateral to finance Chris Mallicks movie company then I have the right to and will most certainly dig DEEP into any and all relationships his movie company has. It's called following the money trail.
I've given up on the money in Epass... wrote it off just like I wrote off other big lose in the past.

Hey I have nothing against you fighting your fight, I just think putting Ron in Bed due to a pic and their relationship as friends is just posting for Drama for views and as nothing to do with the fact the Epassporte closed up and lots of us have not been able to access our funds.
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
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Thank you, that site is not mine nor is it under my control. Forgive me for the thread, but I will continue to ask the hard questions that others are afraid to ask. It is only NATURAL that any and everyone that has a personal or business relationship of ANY TYPE with Chirs Mallick will be under the magnifying glass until as such time as everyone is paid what they are owed. This is not the same as a cc processor going under, this is MUCH MUCH bigger and not the same animal at all.
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I thought ccbill and epassporte hated each other and that is why ccbill never payed out with epass, some personal drama between owners...?

and where there is drama there are usually shady characters.

Hey Ron since you know the guy can you give him a call and ask him where everyone's money is??? lol nice fast reply there
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The guys have been friends for a long time now... Hell if you want to go after everyone who's been in a picture with Chris Mallick or as been seen talking to him then put me in that list Choker...

LOL you're taking this a bit to far putting Ron in bed with Chris

Also Ron does not owe ANY explications to any of you guys... As far as CCbill is concern they are leader in billing online adult and that's a FACT!!!

Ron and CC Bill might not owe ANY explications but you and your bitch ass company does.
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
.

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Ron and CC Bill might not owe ANY explications but you and your bitch ass company does.
I give explications about TCG to everyone who contacts me and as Jay said the last time, we are moving to NATS but did have some major issues. AS far as I am told sales are still being tracked.

The rest is up to you so continue your flaming if you want, seems you are motivated to do so anyways.
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I've given up on the money in Epass... wrote it off just like I wrote off other big lose in the past.

Hey I have nothing against you fighting your fight, I just think putting Ron in Bed due to a pic and their relationship as friends is just posting for Drama for views and as nothing to do with the fact the Epassporte closed up and lots of us have not been able to access our funds.
Well I have not given up, and will continue to follow any and all leads. I posted this and will continue to post leads as people see these threads and do thier own research which is what is needed to get to the bottom of what is going on. Don't shoot the messenger.

Let's say for arguments sake to show you how this works, lets say that Ron rented that plane to CM for the shoot ok? He said he let him borrow so we now know there was no rent of the plane. But let's say for demonstration purposes he rented the plane to CM for 10k for a day? Follow me? Now if CM did use wallet funds to finance his movie then there you go, we would be able to account for 10k of missing wallet funds. Get where I'm going here?
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From what I know ePassporte and CCBill have never had anything to do with ePassporte other than Chris and Ron know each other and the only way I know this is because I met them at the show in Amsterdam a few years back.
I tried years ago to get ePassporte to pick up CCBill as a client it never happened I do not know why but if CCBill had any interest in ePassporte they would surely have used ePassporte as a payout option.
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Well I have not given up, and will continue to follow any and all leads. I posted this and will continue to post leads as people see these threads and do thier own research which is what is needed to get to the bottom of what is going on. Don't shoot the messenger.

Let's say for arguments sake to show you how this works, lets say that Ron rented that plane to CM for the shoot ok? He said he let him borrow so we now know there was no rent of the plane. But let's say for demonstration purposes he rented the plane to CM for 10k for a day? Follow me? Now if CM did use wallet funds to finance his movie then there you go, we would be able to account for 10k of missing wallet funds. Get where I'm going here?
I see your point Choker and not taking anything away from it. But there are still "if's" you cannot confirm and we all know what assume really means Eh!

Hopefully this whole mess will be sorted out soon enough for all parties involved.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:55 AM   #34
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
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That was a really quick response
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:59 AM   #35
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Well I have not given up, and will continue to follow any and all leads. I posted this and will continue to post leads as people see these threads and do thier own research which is what is needed to get to the bottom of what is going on. Don't shoot the messenger.

Let's say for arguments sake to show you how this works, lets say that Ron rented that plane to CM for the shoot ok? He said he let him borrow so we now know there was no rent of the plane. But let's say for demonstration purposes he rented the plane to CM for 10k for a day? Follow me? Now if CM did use wallet funds to finance his movie then there you go, we would be able to account for 10k of missing wallet funds. Get where I'm going here?

Choker

Sorry but I let him use it for free, just like several of my friends in town did things for free for him during the movie.


Michael O

You are correct thanks for clarifying


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Old 10-13-2010, 08:04 AM   #36
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I've given up on the money in Epass... wrote it off just like I wrote off other big lose in the past.
How much did you lose?
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:05 AM   #37
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From what I know ePassporte and CCBill have never had anything to do with ePassporte...
Welcome back, Michael O!
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Before CCbill gets blamed for the Banking Crisis or Obama Health Care lets set some Facts straight


1. Chris and I are friends, and will continue to be friends. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure. CCbill nor any of the many companies I own have done any business with Epassporte

2. I have only talked with him via a few short txt's to see if he needed anything since this has started.

3. CCbill and Epassporte have never done business together. If someone wants to look up the 1000+ threads asking us to integrate in the past to prove this point go ahead

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

5. I was in the movie as a taxi driver LOL (Ok I am vain and wanted a SAG card sounded
like fun to have as a joke). The sad part is my scene ended up on the cutting room
floor. Guess I better keep my day job

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all. This is not my type of investment.

8. CCbill continues to provide checks every week on time. I would like to ask that the person responsible removes CCbill connection since there is non. CCbill's Reputation should not be damamged by NON FACTS
.

Thanks

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Not trying to bust your balls, but you say you keep friendship and business separate, then let your friend use your business address in his business?

that sounds....contradicting.
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Valid point Ron.
I always let my friends crash at my place, use my pc, hell even drink my booze, etc. when they're in town..
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Choker

Sorry but I let him use it for free, just like several of my friends in town did things for free for him during the movie.


Michael O

You are correct thanks for clarifying


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That's a shame you should have charged the shit out of him.
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I with owners of Epassporte were this quick to answer questions.
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See - this is how a responsible CEO acts.
Not hiding out like Malick...
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:26 AM   #43
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Not hiding out like Malick...
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:28 AM   #44
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Not hiding out like Malick...
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I with owners of Epassporte were this quick to answer questions.


HaHa

Well I was working out in my gym on the bike and Gfy is always funny to read while I kill time

Well off to get ready for the office to make sure your checks go out next week. So Conspiracy Theorist get your Tin Foil out and have fun LOL

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Do you have a 32 inch plasma on the wall to watch while riding the bike?
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:44 AM   #47
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There's so much bullshit in this topic it's pathetic.

The friend of a person who robbed me gets treated like the person who robbed me...

I don't wanna hear nothing about no "keep business and friendship separate" shit when you people were sharing business addresses and giving each other parts in each others industry related movies and shit.

One company not integrating another company into their system means jack shit in this topic... don't try to use that as a "See? I'm not like my buddy" card. Especially with the ridiculous stats with one of those companies lately.
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i think most everyone in the business knows that ccbill and epassporte are not connected

ccbill wont be giving money to people who lost to epassporte


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1. I do not base my friendship on business and that is why I try hard to separate businesses from pleasure.

4. Middlemen was filmed in Phoenix the same location as our office. Probably our office address got used in the beginning prior to them establishing their offices.

6. Yes the plane is the same I let Chris use it during the filming of his movie for a day

7. I had NO financial invest in Middlemen at all.
Let me start by saying I am a satisfied CCbill client, but I would like to ask, if Chris used your office address and your plane, but yet you have no financial interest in the movie, it was all given to Chris based on your relationship as a friend? Your home, I understand, as my friends are always welcome at my home, but my place of work... my buddies do not get to use my office address nor would they get the keys to my plane if I had one. I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that plane is owned by CCbill, and not a personal plane. If I am wrong about the ownership, BIG PROPS, playaaa.

My two cents... Such a professional and trusted operation as CCbill shouldn't be allowing anyone, friends or otherwise, to simply use their office address for "establishing their office." At that time, you are actually mixing your friendship into your business, which is what led to this thread no doubt. I find it hard to believe someone with the money Chris Mallick has, that he could not establish an office address in Phoenix, within a matter of a day.

Not that any of that matters, I still use CCbill and didn't lose a penny with ePass. I'm just pointing a few things out that struck me as slightly odd, and wanted to comment that part of the reason I am others trust you and your company, is because I did not think something like this, an unnecessary liability, as innocent as it may have been, would happen. To have your name and company pulled into any discussion right now about Chris and ePass is not a good thing, but at this point I'm afraid it is unavoidable.

Shit happens though, and we've all done things for friends that we shouldn't have.
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There's so much bullshit in this topic it's pathetic.

The friend of a person who robbed me gets treated like the person who robbed me...

I don't wanna hear nothing about no "keep business and friendship separate" shit when you people were sharing business addresses and giving each other parts in each others industry related movies and shit.

One company not integrating another company into their system means jack shit in this topic... don't try to use that as a "See? I'm not like my buddy" card. Especially with the ridiculous stats with one of those companies lately.
I don't know what if any connection there really is or was (beyond what has been shown) nor the true extent but after reading Ron's words I am prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.

One thing to realize is that Mallick was pretty big in the industry even before Epassporte so it only makes sense that Ron would see him a lot during shows and possibly have some sort of friendship develop over the years. Just keep that in mind.
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