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Old 10-17-2010, 09:22 AM   #301
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but, but, but your bro Will76 says not to be so demanding
Will is not my bro. I stand alone on GFY.

But us webmasters make the programs rich... we should be able to demand how we get our cut... which we do, except we demand the wrong things... ie ibill and epass alternatives. How many times will people keep replacing and finding alternatives after being fucked over before they realize maybe it isn't safe to deal with these companies at all?

Also, I wouldn't mind being paid via 301 weed seeds per sell.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:45 AM   #302
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keysersoze! if they can only convince him ;)
NO!!!!

Michael Olsen is a stand up guy ....

He's been put through the wringer and hung to dry!

The LAST thing Michael needs, is to have his name associated with this three ring circus.
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:49 AM   #303
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Also, I wouldn't mind being paid via 301 weed seeds per sell.
Not a bad idea actually
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Old 10-17-2010, 09:56 AM   #304
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that sucks that you have to wait, i have zero wait, i use TD Canadatrust
I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

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Old 10-17-2010, 11:37 AM   #305
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I'm definitely not using Paxum.
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I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

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NO!!!!

Michael Olsen is a stand up guy ....

He's been put through the wringer and hung to dry!

The LAST thing Michael needs, is to have his name associated with this three ring circus.
agreed. michael should stay far away from this mess.
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Old 10-17-2010, 01:53 PM   #308
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I'm definitely not using Paxum.
Me too. Not going to send my ID to an offshore bank and to the owner of a drug pill company. Plus their reps scare men enough.

But good luck to those who use them.

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Old 10-17-2010, 02:59 PM   #309
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NO!!!!

Michael Olsen is a stand up guy ....

He's been put through the wringer and hung to dry!

The LAST thing Michael needs, is to have his name associated with this three ring circus.
Count me in on this one.

The dude doesn't deserve the bull
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I wonder if PR will add Paxum if they end up being the new standard
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I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

sucks for you, i dont have to wait any period of time even for checks in the 5k range.

never really had to wait , only when i was a new client.
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I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

wow. I have a much shorter history with CIBC and Meridian CU. Never any issues depositing checks at either. They do a US$ buy and in it goes without any delay. The teller at Meridian tried once to hold it but after I demanded she had a word with her manager everything went smooth.
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Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em

PS: If you have no clue what SEPA is and are too dumb to check Wikipedia yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D
Since the people in these countries don't use checks, what do they use??? Credit cards and Cash? A LOT of B2B brick and mortar companies in the US use checks. Its very common when a vendor delivers product that the company write them a check opposed to having to deal with cash. None of these companies want to use credit cards as it is stupid to make a company you deliver merchandise/product to pay with a credit card and them have to pay transaction fees on thousands of dollars every week. Especially when the check is easy to obtain at delivery and doesn't cost a penny to deposit.

How is this done in the rest of the world that doesn't use checks? I'm not talking about online, but all offline businesses.

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I wonder if PR will add Paxum if they end up being the new standard
Tell us what you think, so we know the opposite will happen.

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Great positoon! All your posts harm the couse to many internatoinal webmasters. Wanna check? Get your check and fuckuot! I dont understand what do you want? Get out with your checks at all. We all want new sistem with the same resources like epass had and I will find it. As I understant you dont want any new sistem att all and you need your fucking checks. In this case why r u so annoying? I cant sind any positive thoghts in your brain. At this time all bags fixed and Paxum will be more cautious to adding info .
What do you want with you fucking negative?
sorry I don't understand your engrish, but I am guessing here since you don't speak good enrrish you probably don;t like checks and didn't like my post.
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Old 10-17-2010, 06:39 PM   #314
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Better stay with wires then.....
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Since the people in these countries don't use checks, what do they use??? Credit cards and Cash? A LOT of B2B brick and mortar companies in the US use checks. Its very common when a vendor delivers product that the company write them a check opposed to having to deal with cash. None of these companies want to use credit cards as it is stupid to make a company you deliver merchandise/product to pay with a credit card and them have to pay transaction fees on thousands of dollars every week. Especially when the check is easy to obtain at delivery and doesn't cost a penny to deposit.

How is this done in the rest of the world that doesn't use checks? I'm not talking about online, but all offline businesses.



Tell us what you think, so we know the opposite will happen.



sorry I don't understand your engrish, but I am guessing here since you don't speak good enrrish you probably don;t like checks and didn't like my post.
If It's a delivery that come often they have biz accounts connected to each other and handle the payments through the accounts. If It's a odd 1 time payment they give you an invoice with a OCR number that you can use to pay online or at the bank/post.

All bills in Sweden carry OCR numbers that let you pay through your bank account online, I pay every single bill I have that way, including rent, takes me 5min a month.
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They are off to terrible start trying to earn our biz.
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Since the people in these countries don't use checks, what do they use??? Credit cards and Cash? A LOT of B2B brick and mortar companies in the US use checks. Its very common when a vendor delivers product that the company write them a check opposed to having to deal with cash.

How is this done in the rest of the world that doesn't use checks? I'm not talking about online, but all offline businesses.
You get get an invoice. This invoice carry a unique number (KID, OCR, etc. diff names in diff countries) You get n number of days to pay the invoice. When you pay this invoice (mostly online these days) you punch in this UIN together with the recipients name and address (usually stored). Hit enter and off it goes. All electronically. Now and then you are required to pay cash up front or via CC. Thats usually happens if you have a poor credit report or similar.

For some fixed things like rent etc you can set up recurring debits from within your online banking. The diff from N. America is that it is the opposite of pre-auth payments. You don't authorize anyone any kind of access to your acct. You control at all times your own debits.

For everyday purchases I'd say 90% uses debit cards linked directly to their account.
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you people are full of so much bullshit. Ruth you blamed it on Paxum users saying that they used a form that should have been used by Program owners. You blame the Paxum users for using a form that was for Program Owners.



Octav says it was companies submitted from users that they should add. Octav blames the designer for publishing a list of companies they *want* to add.



Makes no fucking sense. If the "submit form" was for program owners then it wouldn't be a list of people you want to add, they would already be added.

Octav is saying he knew it was from webmasters, you are saying "opps" that was suppose to be from program owners, we *just* finding out about it now.

So either you guys knew the programs being submitted on that page from webmasters and not owners and you did nothing about it, or you guys are just plain stupid and have no idea what you are doing.

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I understand and these days its tough to trust anyone with your money.
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Simply out of curiosity and because you've been in this biz a long time: How will you respond to your thousands of affiliates when many of them will address you or your rep's on why you don't carry Paxum as a payment option.
Are you going to give them the link to this thread?
thousands aren't coming to us, its more like a dozen and when i asked them why do they prefer paxum they almost ALL said; "i don't care, just as long as you get an epass replacement we can use fast". Sound like something we should jump into?


wow, i have a lot of negative rep coming from this thread, I wonder who that's coming from?
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thousands aren't coming to us, its more like a dozen and when i asked them why do they prefer paxum they almost ALL said; "i don't care, just as long as you get an epass replacement we can use fast". Sound like something we should jump into?


wow, i have a lot of negative rep coming from this thread, I wonder who that's coming from?
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thousands aren't coming to us, its more like a dozen and when i asked them why do they prefer paxum they almost ALL said; "i don't care, just as long as you get an epass replacement we can use fast". Sound like something we should jump into?
And a lot of us are just waiting for you guys to just do something instead of letting the mob dictate things. Take some action and look into emc2payouts instead of bitching about the mob pushing Paxum.
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I would have left the link.

Sod it.

All they are doing is promoting your site.

If they want to send people to your site - let them.

They can add www.MrBan.com if they want.
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And a lot of us are just waiting for you guys to just do something instead of letting the mob dictate things. Take some action and look into emc2payouts instead of bitching about the mob pushing Paxum.
What makes you think we aren't looking into EVERY SINGLE OPTION available right now?

Just because we aren't jumping to it doesn't mean we are dragging our feet. We don't like to gamble with our webmasters money so pardon us for doing some research on it first...
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thousands aren't coming to us, its more like a dozen and when i asked them why do they prefer paxum they almost ALL said; "i don't care, just as long as you get an epass replacement we can use fast". Sound like something we should jump into?
I'd bet most that did send two or three sales a month. Don't confirm or deny though as that will just piss off the people that did contact you who do send that.

They want you to load Paxum with 10k so that they can get their $50 hassle free.
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Indeed, I can cash a US check on the spot with no holds.
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What makes you think we aren't looking into EVERY SINGLE OPTION available right now?

Just because we aren't jumping to it doesn't mean we are dragging our feet. We don't like to gamble with our webmasters money so pardon us for doing some research on it first...
Maybe because of the title of this thread? Certainly could have been clearer that you were actually looking into other viable options that weren't paypal.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=990733
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It will be comedy gold when paxum becomes the new industry standard for P2P and affiliate payments and PimpRoll tries to jump on board, only to be told to take a hike.
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I have to suggest that anyone that utilizes a company that gives false info like that to handle their processing deserves any issues that arise later. You can be pretty sure they will arise.
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I'd bet most that did send two or three sales a month. Don't confirm or deny though as that will just piss off the people that did contact you who do send that.

They want you to load Paxum with 10k so that they can get their $50 hassle free.
And the ones who do $100 to $300 per month didn't bother with the contact because they know they can do that with any other sponsor just as easy. Or simply pile it on top of one of their existing multi-cat sponsors. Or just wait it out, whatever...
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Indeed, if you have been with the bank a reasonable length of time, they will see a pattern and base their decision on that. Aside from that, you can always ask a manager or supevisor to overide the clerk
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Maybe because of the title of this thread? Certainly could have been clearer that you were actually looking into other viable options that weren't paypal.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=990733
the title of that thread does not say anything that would lead you to believe that we are not looking into our options... thank you...
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It will be comedy gold when paxum becomes the new industry standard for P2P and affiliate payments and PimpRoll tries to jump on board, only to be told to take a hike.
now you are just embarrassing yourself...


There is no feud between paxum and us, we simply wanted our link off their page because we do not use them.
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now you are just embarrassing yourself...

There is no feud between paxum and us, we simply wanted our link off their page because we do not use them.
You could have handled this correctly instead of starting this shit-fest.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:38 PM   #340
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the title of that thread does not say anything that would lead you to believe that we are not looking into our options... thank you...
It's easy for you to say that given you have more information than the rest of us... The title says no other options.. the thread said maybe paypal... that's it.. no "we're looking at other options but until we've investigated what's viable we'll be sticking to checks etc."

Spin it how you want but that's the message that was put out there.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:41 PM   #341
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What makes you think we aren't looking into EVERY SINGLE OPTION available right now?

Just because we aren't jumping to it doesn't mean we are dragging our feet. We don't like to gamble with our webmasters money so pardon us for doing some research on it first...
Exactly. The fact that some of the sponsors are taking hard looks at this stuff speaks volumes about the business sense of your program. All the sponsors that rushed into this appear desperate for traffic.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:42 PM   #342
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It will be comedy gold when paxum becomes the new industry standard for P2P and affiliate payments and PimpRoll tries to jump on board, only to be told to take a hike.
Should that happen, and at the rate of all these affiliate companies closing down, you really think PAXUM could afford to tell a programme such as PimpRoll to "take a hike"

This thread was only started to have the link removed as it was false advertising to our Affiliates.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #343
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You could have handled this correctly instead of starting this shit-fest.
i think its not such a big shit fest

basically everyone is talking about paxum non stop for the last few days
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:52 PM   #344
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I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

i am with td and have never had a hold. if you know your branch or put up a stink and have a good track record, they will let it go through.
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Old 10-18-2010, 01:56 PM   #345
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What about wires? Are your countries so advanced that yall no longer do wire transfers either?
I accept payment by teleport cash, don't you guys have that yet?
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Old 10-18-2010, 02:10 PM   #346
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Anyhow adding some service would be good. I hate to wait 30 days to cash a check!
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Old 10-18-2010, 03:22 PM   #347
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It will be comedy gold when paxum becomes the new industry standard for P2P and affiliate payments and PimpRoll tries to jump on board, only to be told to take a hike.
they are already the new industry standard, self proclaimed of course. They are also the safest way to send money (also self proclaimed).


Yeah I am sure they would tell him that they wont do business with him because he made a post asking them to remove his link which was false advertising.
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I am with Canada Trust from way back in late 80s - before TD even joined them, and I still have a minimum 14 days hold on US cheques (since 9/11 - the bullshit blanket excuse so many companies used to tie up/earn interest on our money!!)

no holds on my US checks with TD
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They are off to terrible start trying to earn our biz.
Looks like they got it and they can put that link back up
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Old 08-10-2011, 02:42 PM   #350
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Looks like they got it and they can put that link back up
Yeah Just read the email.

AND, I also went back on my word. Left wires and are now using...... Paxum (well, and wires and payoneer)
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