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Old 10-16-2010, 11:05 AM   #251
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Old 10-16-2010, 11:37 AM   #252
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You'll find alot of Epassporte victims who will disagree with you there.

Why do you think a sponsor who wont pay you by cheque or wire will suddenly want to pay you via a third party ?
I lost a lot with epassporte too...
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just a reminder that MORE NICHE will steal the commission made by its affiliates
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http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/992298-niche-steals-commisions-form-affiliates.html
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Old 10-16-2010, 11:43 AM   #254
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It takes 30-40 days to cash a check and around $20 / check
that sucks, here i can cash it instantly no wait, and doesnt cost a thing to cash a check.
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Old 10-16-2010, 12:38 PM   #255
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If you're getting a $1,000 payment, spending $60 on wire fees is no big deal to know that you're money is 110% safe.
Another person made an observation about this the other day... he pointed out that over the years he estimated he saved himself something like a couple k in wire fees over the years using ePass.. Taking into account how much he may have ended up losing, he was still up well over a k... So I don't know about anyone else, but I want as much of my money as I can get and I want it in my hands as fast as I can get it.
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that sucks, here i can cash it instantly no wait, and doesnt cost a thing to cash a check.
Good for u, i also have to wait 30 or more days to cash checks!

And if the fucker bounce its all over again!
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Old 10-16-2010, 01:56 PM   #257
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Good for u, i also have to wait 30 or more days to cash checks!

And if the fucker bounce its all over again!
30 days or so to cash a check?? where do you live? in a palm tree on some remote island??
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30 days or so to cash a check?? where do you live? in a palm tree on some remote island??
The last check in europe was cut back in '86 or somethin
15 days to explain the to the teller what that piece of paper is, 15 days for it clear over the pond.
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30 days or so to cash a check?? where do you live? in a palm tree on some remote island??
I'm in Canada and it's 10-15 business days (3-4 weeks usually).

It's because the rest of the world has moved on to REAL banking set ups, checks are dinosaurs.

In fact, starting now, I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.
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I'm in Canada and it's 10-15 business days (3-4 weeks usually).

It's because the rest of the world has moved on to REAL banking set ups, checks are dinosaurs.

In fact, starting now, I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.
At TD there is zero day hold on any cheques in CAD or USD, all you have to do is ask.

Are you using some third rate credit union to cash your cheques?
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At TD there is zero day hold on any cheques in CAD or USD, all you have to do is ask.

Are you using some third rate credit union to cash your cheques?
I was a TD man years ago, now mostly Royal, and my wife still has a TD/Can Trust account. Part of the issue is we are in the middle of nowhere now (New Liskeard) and the bank don't know me or any of these companies.

I had about 2-3 bounce back during the webmaster checks fiasco so now there is a hold on all my (US) checks (unless I drive 3 hrs each way to Sudbury to cash them.)
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I'm in Canada and it's 10-15 business days (3-4 weeks usually).

It's because the rest of the world has moved on to REAL banking set ups, checks are dinosaurs.

In fact, starting now, I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.
that sucks that you have to wait, i have zero wait, i use TD Canadatrust
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Yea no shit the program doesn't even work. You faggot.
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I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.
Good luck with that.
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Everyone bitching about checks, simple soultion then, don't use companies that only offer checks or wire transfers. Rip on checks all you want, if your "advanced" country doesn't want to bother with checks anymore then simply don't use companies that issue checks. For the rest of us who live in N. America (with an exception to those of you who live out in middle of no where Canada) checks work great, fast and don't cost anything.

I'm glad the US still uses checks, if not I would have had to use a company like epass and likely could have losts tons of money. It's not my fault that in some other countries the banks want to charge you for checks. Absolutely nothing wrong with checks at all, its a safe way to transfer money, a lot safer than using a 3rd party company like epass or paxum. Just because YOUR country/bank doesn't like checks, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with checks and we should stop using them, its your problem not ours. Checks are great. Why don't you people quit with the "dinosaurs" shit just because your "advanced" society doesn't believe in checks. I guess cash is for dinosaurs too??
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I'm in Canada and it's 10-15 business days (3-4 weeks usually).

It's because the rest of the world has moved on to REAL banking set ups, checks are dinosaurs.

In fact, starting now, I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.
Dude, it's a string of fucking numbers. We are communicating over the internet right now, they can clear your fucking check in 13 seconds if they want to.
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I have a question for the countries that have banks that charge for checks.... Do they charge because it is a foreign check or do they charge for all checks even local ones?
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Paxum creates their own drama.
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no no no, it was the paxum haters who paid their designer to make the error so we could then come to GFY to bitch about them. Or maybe their designer is a double agent and he works for one of the other companies, maybe it was aliens...

Funny, if anyone is getting paid around here to post, it's not the people asking questions, its the people and fake / new nicks blindly blowing the company, thats for sure. I don't see any new nicks bashing them, just real people with real concerns.
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I like to think about this in real world terms.

Imagine you are walking down a busy city street and someone hands you a flyer for a great new financial service which is offered by a company nobody has ever heard of and there is sketchy details about the ownership of the company. Yeah right .. flyer straight into bin and not another thought.

Paxum appears out of nowhere with a brand new service the likes of which have had varying levels of success or failure when offered by other companies, then all of a sudden a portion of the industry embraces them like their new best friend.

Hype is easy to generate, lets see long term performance and then I might consider Paxum to be a legitimate player in the industry.
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I have a question for the countries that have banks that charge for checks.... Do they charge because it is a foreign check or do they charge for all checks even local ones?
It's cause It's a foreign check. I have to pay $20 per and wait 14 day's to clear. Why they do this is cause no one ever uses checks any more and when they get a foreign check in they have to first send It to the main office of the bank that then sends the check to their partner US bank that clears the check. As this is done by snailmail there is a obvious fraud risk if they were to pay out the money right away. Also as they explained to me ~7 years ago when I last cashed a check the fee is cause there is a history of big bounce rates on foreign checks.

If I were to cash a Swedish check(dont know if they exist any more :P) It would cost 0
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I have a question for the countries that have banks that charge for checks.... Do they charge because it is a foreign check or do they charge for all checks even local ones?
I haven't seen a local check here for more then 20 years
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I have a question for the countries that have banks that charge for checks.... Do they charge because it is a foreign check or do they charge for all checks even local ones?
Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em

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So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D

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I was a TD man years ago, now mostly Royal, and my wife still has a TD/Can Trust account. Part of the issue is we are in the middle of nowhere now (New Liskeard) and the bank don't know me or any of these companies.

I had about 2-3 bounce back during the webmaster checks fiasco so now there is a hold on all my (US) checks (unless I drive 3 hrs each way to Sudbury to cash them.)
Ah shit, I feel your pain. I tried to do some banking in Erin, and had them look at the cheques like I'd printed them myself a half hour earlier. Small towns are not the best for banking.
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Everyone bitching about checks, simple soultion then, don't use companies that only offer checks or wire transfers. Rip on checks all you want, if your "advanced" country doesn't want to bother with checks anymore then simply don't use companies that issue checks. For the rest of us who live in N. America (with an exception to those of you who live out in middle of no where Canada) checks work great, fast and don't cost anything.

I'm glad the US still uses checks, if not I would have had to use a company like epass and likely could have losts tons of money. It's not my fault that in some other countries the banks want to charge you for checks. Absolutely nothing wrong with checks at all, its a safe way to transfer money, a lot safer than using a 3rd party company like epass or paxum. Just because YOUR country/bank doesn't like checks, doesn't mean there is anything wrong with checks and we should stop using them, its your problem not ours. Checks are great. Why don't you people quit with the "dinosaurs" shit just because your "advanced" society doesn't believe in checks. I guess cash is for dinosaurs too??
Great positoon! All your posts harm the couse to many internatoinal webmasters. Wanna check? Get your check and fuckuot! I dont understand what do you want? Get out with your checks at all. We all want new sistem with the same resources like epass had and I will find it. As I understant you dont want any new sistem att all and you need your fucking checks. In this case why r u so annoying? I cant sind any positive thoghts in your brain. At this time all bags fixed and Paxum will be more cautious to adding info .
What do you want with you fucking negative?
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I guess cash is for dinosaurs too??
Wow, you actually touched on the truth. I am not kidding about this, many western countries have serious discussions right now about limiting the circulation of certain coins and bills. Why? Because cash is the main ingredient in (organized)crime. Not likely to happen anytime soon but it will happen for sure.
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What about wires? Are your countries so advanced that yall no longer do wire transfers either?
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Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em

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So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D
makes getting your money in the banks faster so they can use it. to make money nice plan.
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Like Nicky said. It's because they are foreign/in a foreign currency. However, even if some sponsor would be willing to send the check in EUR this wouldn't change a thing, as it's still foreign. It would only be free if it's from a bank in my country and in EUR - but guess what, we don't even have similar checks to those in the US anymore.

Oh, and btw - to that guy (can't remember who posted that stupid bullshit) who said webmasters living in a "first world country" only use e-wallets for tax evasion... Well, if more sponsors would be as cool as Payserve and offer free SEPA transfers (wires), I'd be glad to use 'em

PS: If you have no clue what SEPA is and are too dumb to check Wikipedia yourself:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

So for those who think checks are cool as fuck, please tell me why we should use them if we have wires that are completely free (yeah, that's $0 no matter how large the transfer is) within the EUR zone? Oh and, btw - wires don't bounce :D
If the industry demanded this, the programs would conform. But, the industry is asking for more "middlemen" for some reason... Now what could that reason be?
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What a childish dispute...
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:44 AM   #288
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Wow, you actually touched on the truth. I am not kidding about this, many western countries have serious discussions right now about limiting the circulation of certain coins and bills. Why? Because cash is the main ingredient in (organized)crime. Not likely to happen anytime soon but it will happen for sure.
the UK has a timeline for the elimination of paper checks, but don't worry will thinks the world is a giant wal mart and burger king and has zero comprehension that the rest of the world isn't identical to his egocentric view. hell, will can't even comprehend why anyone would promote anyone but clickcash but there you go. the guy is an old troll living in the glory days of the past poking his nose where he has no business or knowledge.
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:48 AM   #289
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I'm definitely not using Paxum.
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Old 10-17-2010, 07:55 AM   #290
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So in one version the designer took an internal memo of the companies they *want* to add and published it, and no one checked the designer's work before it went live??

In another version it was Paxum users using some add function to add companies to the list that was suppose to be meant only for program owners to add their companies' name to the list. Which none of this was verified and it just goes live??

wtf two very different stories.
Easy solution. Get the rogue webmaster/designer in here to tell us his version of the story too!
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Funny, if anyone is getting paid around here to post, it's not the people asking questions, its the people and fake / new nicks blindly blowing the company, thats for sure. I don't see any new nicks bashing them, just real people with real concerns.
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Old 10-17-2010, 08:18 AM   #292
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What about wires? Are your countries so advanced that yall no longer do wire transfers either?
No, but around $30 wire fee most affiliate programs charge plus around 20 EUR bank fees to receive an international wire still don't make wires my preferred payout method
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I'm in Canada and it's 10-15 business days (3-4 weeks usually).

It's because the rest of the world has moved on to REAL banking set ups, checks are dinosaurs.

In fact, starting now, I'm going to ask a $20 fee on out of country checks. My business, my traffic, and my hassles.
I'm in Canada too doing banking at CIBC and also have an account at BOA in state to receive ACH payment. Sometime I need to write a check from my BOA account to my CIBC one and seriously the money is out of my BOA account 2 days after I deposited the check at CIBC. So that 10-15 days is totally bullshit....
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No, but around $30 wire fee most affiliate programs charge plus around 20 EUR bank fees to receive an international wire still don't make wires my preferred payout method
Maybe you should take the out time out to stfu and take a look at this...
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=17614917#post17614917
Demand it...
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Maybe you should take the out time out to stfu and take a look at this...
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=17614917#post17614917
Demand it...
You do realize that I posted that myself, right? Ok, so how many non-EU programs would be willing to get EU bank account to be able to send those out for free to their EU affiliates? If you find any, let me know!
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that sucks for sure
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You do realize that I posted that myself, right? Ok, so how many non-EU programs would be willing to get EU bank account to be able to send those out for free to their EU affiliates? If you find any, let me know!
Listen carefully, DEMAND IT!!!!!!!!!
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Listen carefully, DEMAND IT!!!!!!!!!
but, but, but your bro Will76 says not to be so demanding
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why do people who say they are never going to use anything but checks again even care? go cash your fucking checks and fuck off.
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