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Old 10-22-2010, 04:06 PM   #1
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:stop Wikileaks leaks 400,000 military documents today. Largest in history!

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At 5pm EST Friday 22nd October 2010 WikiLeaks released the largest classified military leak in history. The 391,832 reports ('The Iraq War Logs'), document the war and occupation in Iraq, from 1st January 2004 to 31st December 2009 (except for the months of May 2004 and March 2009) as told by soldiers in the United States Army. Each is a 'SIGACT' or Significant Action in the war. They detail events as seen and heard by the US military troops on the ground in Iraq and are the first real glimpse into the secret history of the war that the United States government has been privy to throughout.

The reports detail 109,032 deaths in Iraq, comprised of 66,081 'civilians'; 23,984 'enemy' (those labeled as insurgents); 15,196 'host nation' (Iraqi government forces) and 3,771 'friendly' (coalition forces). The majority of the deaths (66,000, over 60%) of these are civilian deaths.That is 31 civilians dying every day during the six year period. For comparison, the 'Afghan War Diaries', previously released by WikiLeaks, covering the same period, detail the deaths of some 20,000 people. Iraq during the same period, was five times as lethal with equivallent population size.
http://warlogs.wikileaks.org/

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I dont understand why the US hasn't simply killed this guy.

Oh right, obama.
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Old 10-22-2010, 04:13 PM   #3
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http://sify.com/news/rape-probe-cont...wwahidcga.html

Rape probe continues against WikiLeaks founder
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http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/world/war-logs.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...military-leaks

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/mi...210771944.html

http://www.iraqwarlogs.com/

http://www.spiegel.de/

http://svt.se/2.22584/1.2204694/nya_...an_irak-kriget

http://www.lemonde.fr/proche-orient/...ens_id=1429641
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Old 10-22-2010, 04:21 PM   #5
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I don't understand how this guy hasn't gotten into a fatal car accident yet
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:23 PM   #7
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I dont understand why the US hasn't simply killed this guy.
Too high profile and the idea that assassination of character is better than assassination of person.
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Old 10-22-2010, 06:31 PM   #8
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this guy is gonna go missing some day. he doesn't know who he's fucking with. sad but true.
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Geesus, 391,832 reports!

How am I ever going to read all that shit?

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I guess the reports haven't been released yet. Should be tomorrow at some point.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:01 PM   #11
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I guess the reports haven't been released yet. Should be tomorrow at some point.
They are up now: http://warlogs.wikileaks.org/

Direct: http://warlogs.owni.fr/

The other URL is overloaded now. Page won't load.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:07 PM   #12
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Fuck yeah, Wikileaks is awesome!

The guys a hero.
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The guys a hero.
Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

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Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

How many Iraqi men, women and children have already died as a result of the US invading their country?

A life is a life to me. But I gather you think a US soldiers life is worth more than any worthless arab
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Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

Everything I've looked at thus far has been heavily censored.

Contrary to popular belief, Wikileaks does not want to get people killed.
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:36 PM   #16
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Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

I hope as many as possible.

FUCK USA!
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a true hero! also did the right thing exposing himself, it will be more difficult now to just remove him...
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Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?


who cares? if they die it will be because of people who started this war...the truth must be told...they might be collateral damage ,what can you do, no one cares when iraqis dies as a collateral damage...

also dont forget - it is someone within army itself who is fed up with this shit and supplied the documents...and not some regular grunt...wikiekas, they are just messenger....what happened to dont kill the messenger?

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This is a hard one.

On one hand it possibly puts troops at risk. On the other hand there has been some pretty fucked up shit done over there, and its always good to have people/countries held accountable for their actions.
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How does this guy get al these docs?
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A life is a life to me. But I gather you think a US soldiers life is worth more than any worthless Arab
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FUCK USA!
Wow... really mature.
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Yea, a real stand-up guy.

How many US soldiers could die as a result?

Stop repeating the same shit over and over ... close Fox News ...

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The whistleblowing activists say they have deleted all names from the documents that might result in reprisals. They were accused by the US military of possibly having "blood on their hands" over the previous Afghan release by redacting too few names. But the military recently conceded that no harm had been identified.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...military-leaks

Now, tell me how much blood the US have on THEIR hands ?????
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Wow... really mature.
same as : Bomb the shit out of them and turn it in a parking lot or a sheet of glass ...


Never saw you complaion about that ...
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The release of these classified military documents is a real disgrace for the US. It shows that we are growing too weak to defend ourselves from our enemies. That cocksucker Julian Assange should be in a bodybag by now.
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Everything I've looked at thus far has been heavily censored.

Contrary to popular belief, Wikileaks does not want to get people killed.
On a related note, for all we know, much of the "leaked" documents may have been intentionally provided to Wikileaks by the U.S. government itself.

There are differing degrees of document classification - are any of the documents "leaked" of the highest classifications of "secret" and "top secret"? I'd wager not...

Anyways, do the documents truly contain much significant information that isn't already known / findable elsewhere?

Don't get me wrong, it's great there are sites like Wikileaks, but am skeptical of the information they're posting / motivations of those who "leak" the info to Wikileaks.

For example, according to a news media report, one of the documents contains info about the "hikers" being held in Iran when captured were on the Iraq side of the border ... ok, but that was already widely publicized in the media months ago ... what wasn't mentioned is why the "hikers" were there to begin with ... are they spies? Or what?

Point is if many of the other documents are like that one, simply mentioning details that were already widely known, then there's likely little to no real new information to be discovered.

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Geesus, 391,832 reports!

How am I ever going to read all that shit?

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I guess the reports haven't been released yet. Should be tomorrow at some point.
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I hope as many as possible.

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Wikileaks contacted the Pentagone to apparently redact details and names that can expose intelligence/people on the ground

On the flip side we learn of downright disturbing stuff the mainstream media has made no mention of, no surprise
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Over 109.000 killed. 24.000 "enemies", 15.000 iraqi soldiers, 3.771 coalition, over 66.000 civilians. That's over 60 percent civilian deaths. Bloodbath
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Over 109.000 killed. 24.000 "enemies", 15.000 iraqi soldiers, 3.771 coalition, over 66.000 civilians. That's over 60 percent civilian deaths. Bloodbath
Yeah but at least they found the weapons of mass destruction... Oh wait...
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thats what i have been waiting for, now the world is mine ... btw not sure how much secure and peace helping publishing this info was ...
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HAHA gota love the nerve on these cunts, accusing Wikileaks of having blood on it's hands for releasing documents detailing their murder of 60 fucking thousand civillians.

If Wikileaks have blood on their hands they are fucking drowning in the blood of Iraqi civilians.

And so fucking what if Americans die as a result of this? 60k Civilians to 3k Americans? The scores need to be a little more balanced, you can't just go into a fucking country on a false pretense, slaughter their fucking population for a decade and get off scott free.

I DEMAND JUSTICE!!!!!!!!!!
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Every civilian kill is one too many. There are a lot of things i don't condone by the war, and things that could have been done better. But let's also put things into perspective.

So 66.000 killed civilians during the Iraq War.
How many civilians got killed and tortured by Saddam Hussein?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...ein's_Iraq

I hear a lot of critique about the war but what did all the same people do in the period 1979-2003 to help and protect the Iraqi people? And how much did they accomplish?
Weapons of mass destruction or not.. a ruthless dictator is gone which is good.
The sad thing is these people with their religion still live in The Middle Ages and were not prepared for a democracy. Hopefully they will one day experience it though.
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Every civilian kill is one too many. There are a lot of things i don't condone by the war, and things that could have been done better. But let's also put things into perspective.

So 66.000 killed civilians during the Iraq War.
How many civilians got killed and tortured by Saddam Hussein?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_r...ein's_Iraq

I hear a lot of critique about the war but what did all the same people do in the period 1979-2003 to help and protect the Iraqi people? And how much did they accomplish?
Weapons of mass destruction or not.. a ruthless dictator is gone which is good.
I might have agreed with you if the U.S had always been an enemy of Saddam and cared about the people of Iraq BUT..



You have no leg to stand on.

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I find those war documents released by wikileaks boring.
War is hell and there will always be going on some weird things.
The real question (with obvious answer) is what the fuck the US are doing in other countries and with what justification they do it.
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But let's also put things into perspective

So 66.000 killed civilians during the Iraq War.
How many civilians got killed and tortured by Saddam Hussein?
It's not a competition. Saddam Hussein got what he deserved but that's not an excuse for western soldiers to torture, murder and rape innocent women and children.
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I might have agreed with you if the U.S had always been an enemy of Saddam and cared about the people of Iraq BUT..
No doubt he should have been removed many years ago. Unfortunate they didn't do it already in the Gulf War 1990/91.
I agree it is a disgrace that not only the US but also the rest of the world have been as passive as they have towards regimes like Saddam's. Different things were tried but let's face it, without the Iraq War he would still be there with even more blood on his hands.

It can be debated what is best, but in my opinion late is better than never.
The number of civilian casualties seems pretty high though when thinking of today's high precision weapons.
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How am I ever going to read all that shit?


wget -r and read it later
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It's not a competition. Saddam Hussein got what he deserved but that's not an excuse for western soldiers to torture, murder and rape innocent women and children.
Of course it is no competition, I just put things into perspective.
It is ok to be against the war, I personally don't see Saddam still being the leader in Iraq today is a better alternative though.

The soldiers you mention are a disgrace to their uniform and should be prosecuted for their actions. I have no problem with documents revealing that being published.
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I wonder when they will release the other videos they have.
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Old 10-23-2010, 11:16 AM   #48
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the War Crimes of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney need to be exposed.

CHENEY AND BUSH TO HAGUE!
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:06 PM   #49
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The release of these classified military documents is a real disgrace for the US. It shows that we are growing too weak to defend ourselves from our enemies. That cocksucker Julian Assange should be in a bodybag by now.
WTF dude? We didn't release anything. Press did. Now you're going to say that freedom of speach should go away? Go leave in fucking Ukraine than.
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Old 10-23-2010, 01:36 PM   #50
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Strange you raise a good point against daddyhalbucks and he never replies like a pussy
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