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Old 10-28-2010, 01:09 AM   #1
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The guy that curb stomped the woman at the rally, he says she should apologize to him.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ky-po...ry?id=11986106

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The whole thing shows the state of politics in the US.

Some of the attraction of the Tea Party seems to be the people who support them want a change. But without the big bucks needed to get elected, there will be no change.
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yeah i couldnt believe what an idiot he was
he should be charged and sentenced, maybe not jail time since he didnt hurt her much...but just to curb in some of these power trippin assholes
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:26 AM   #4
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It is unfortunate that the woman was stomped under his feet.
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those stupid rallies..... slaves of government parties going at it at eachother.... sheep.... like anyone listens to the dumb fucks with signs on the streets. People are so stupid.
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good to see he was charged...and banned from future political rallies

i hope his wife leaves him, he has no honour...how can he even look at his children?
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doesn't matter who gets elected, can't really see things getting much better with actions like this
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The whole thing shows the state of politics in the US.

Some of the attraction of the Tea Party seems to be the people who support them want a change. But without the big bucks needed to get elected, there will be no change.

sorry but that is just a ludicrous statement. The tea party is extremely well funded with every important race being funded by the millions with out of state and corporate donations...its the democrats that are desperate for cash LOL
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One person certainly doesn't represent everyone, but he should be charged with assault and I hope he loses his job and does time.

Amazing how some weak minded people get caught up in mob mentality.
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sorry but that is just a ludicrous statement. The tea party is extremely well funded with every important race being funded by the millions with out of state and corporate donations...its the democrats that are desperate for cash LOL
So corporations are funding the Tea Bag party eh?

I guess they aren't really a "grassroots" movement like they claimed before.
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I usually have the TV running in the background and I'm pretty sure someone showed video leading up to the incident which had the girl protester running up to the car window yelling at whoever was inside and that's when she was thrown to the ground and subdued. Much like a bodyguard would do if you rushed whoever they were guarding.

If that's indeed what happened than I think it was OK for them to subdue her by taking her to the ground. I DO NOT think the guy should have stomped on her head because she was already under control at that point.

Lately people have crossed that " line " in a volatile situation and found themselves on the losing end and then complain because action was taken against them.

Just yesterday in my town a young man robbed a game store with a gun, the police caught him at an intersection, the guy got out of his car with the gun in his hand and turned at the officers. The officers opened fire and killed him. Now the Mother of the robber is claiming he was a good kid and he didn't need to die and the police were wrong in their action.

It just gets me how people bring this kind of attention on themselves and then complain when they receive it.
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So corporations are funding the Tea Bag party eh?

I guess they aren't really a "grassroots" movement like they claimed before.
ya know, I do believe that they originated as a grass roots movement you know and I can respect that, even if I disagree with it. but they are far far away from grass roots now

results of a very quick search: http://theweek.com/article/index/206...-puppetmasters
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Probably a stunt... actors paid for.
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if it isn't a stunt, i hope that guy goes to jail for a long time
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Probably a stunt... actors paid for.
Yup she is a lunatic, that has been arrested several times, that was dressed in a costume charging a person who who is running for office. And the person stopping her is the one in the wrong?!

If a tea partier was charging Obama at a rally and got the shit kicked out of him/her people would be cheering.
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As you can clearly see she ASSAULTED Rand Paul with her "award" hitting him in the face.

No one knew if she had a gun or a knive



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If the head stomper did not do anything wrong, then why did Rand Paul dismiss the guy from the campaign?
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If the head stomper did not do anything wrong, then why did Rand Paul dismiss the guy from the campaign?
Because it was damage control from the very "unbiased media". There was no stomping, it was not on the head, he kept her on the ground with his foot, on the shoulder, until police arrived. Why did he keep her on the ground? Because after the lunatic assaulted Rand she was still trying to go after him.
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Because it was damage control from the very "unbiased media". There was no stomping, it was not on the head, he kept her on the ground with his foot, on the shoulder, until police arrived. Why did he keep her on the ground? Because after the lunatic assaulted Rand she was still trying to go after him.
If it is simply "damage control" then what does that say about the integrity of Rand Paul in the fist place? That he is willing to throw an UNPAID/VOLUNTEER campaign staffer under the bus simply to appease the alleged "liberal media"? Why doesn't Rand Paul stand up and defend such a heroic volunteer who risked his life to defend Rand Paul against this dangerous protester?
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If it is simply "damage control" then what does that say about the integrity of Rand Paul in the fist place? That he is willing to throw an UNPAID/VOLUNTEER campaign staffer under the bus simply to appease the alleged "liberal media"? Why doesn't Rand Paul stand up and defend such a heroic volunteer who risked his life to defend Rand Paul against this dangerous protester?
You have to ask him why, Im just guessing.

Do you think it was appropriate for the woman to assault Rand Paul then try to go after him again? Should she be charged with inciting violence?
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That's what I thought.

She not only ran up to his car but actually stuck her sign INSIDE the car.

If she had a gun the guy would be dead. They had every reason to take her to the ground. However the foot stomp was excessive.

Another thing I hate is how the media now just shows the part that will create the most controversy instead of showing the whole story.
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those stupid rallies..... slaves of government parties going at it at eachother.... sheep.... like anyone listens to the dumb fucks with signs on the streets. People are so stupid.
actually, that's how our republic is set up. citizens make themselves heard via protests, rallies, marches, letters, etc. and if the incumbent representative of those people fails to represent those people who are making themselves vocal, they vote him/her out of office.
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You have to ask him why, Im just guessing.
Actually a reporter did ask Rand Paul about this incident. His answer: "The Paul for Senate campaign is extremely disappointed in, and condemns the actions of a supporter last night outside the KET debate. Whatever the perceived provocation, any level of aggression or violence is deplorable, and will not be tolerated by our campaign. The Paul campaign has disassociated itself from the volunteer who took part in this incident, and once again urges all activists — on both sides — to remember that their political passions should never manifest themselves in physical altercations of any kind.”

Hmmm seems like Rand Paul did not consider the protester to be a dangerous threat...


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If the head stomper did not do anything wrong, then why did Rand Paul dismiss the guy from the campaign?
He was being politically correct. As someone mentioned the other day, I am sure Bobbie Kennedy's family wishes his security was as efficient.
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From what I have seen the crazy bitch deserved to have her head stomped. Unfortunately that is not what happened though.
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You have to ask him why, Im just guessing.

Do you think it was appropriate for the woman to assault Rand Paul then try to go after him again? Should she be charged with inciting violence?
Assault huh?

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Well, I will say this...

If a "teabagger" took a run at Obama like this I imagine they would have received far worse
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lets not forget that if you had a real security person, there would be no need to smash her off the ground

hell any doorman at a club would be better then these idiots

you almost are never going to be backed up if your first move is to throw a woman on the ground and then stomp on her head..lol

he is an idiot...and so is this paul person for allowing non pro security to be anywhere near him.
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Well, I will say this...

If a "teabagger" took a run at Obama like this I imagine they would have received far worse
they might get charged...but i doubt they would get their head stomped

maybe their fingerprints taken
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he is an idiot...and so is this paul person for allowing non pro security to be anywhere near him.
There were police there, somewhere. I saw someone in uniform in one of the video clips.
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Yup she is a lunatic, that has been arrested several times
Let me guess, you heard this on Limbaugh
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She chained herself to a bank door and was arrested for that. There is video of it out there somewhere.
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they might get charged...but i doubt they would get their head stomped

maybe their fingerprints taken
They may not get their head stomped, but they may get shot.

I do agree the guy that stepped on her was out of line. I just think it's all being hugely exaggerated. She was stepped on. Her head was not stomped on and clearly she is fine. She is loving the attention she is getting too.

..and her trying to make it sound like Rand Paul sold out to corporate America is a fucking joke. She clearly knows nothing about him other than he is a Republican and a Democrat will likely lose to him.
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This is one of those incidents where it shouldnt matter what his or her politics are or if they were pretending or not. She was bodily thrown onto the street and curb, and a couple of people came into it and one of them clearly stomped down on her head.

Yes the full tape shows her moving towards the car and opening up her sign. It also shows 2 or 3 men following her and performing the heroic acts (lol) as the video shows. There was a cop right there visible in the full video as well. Did you know that the Rand Paul supporters asked him to arrest the woman before the point where the tape even rolls? The cop told them No I wont arrest her. She's not breaking any laws. No word on why he didnt arrest the other people either though.
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There was no risk from the woman. The security at the rally all knew her and had seen her at other events. They knew her name and who she worked for and what she was trying to do. They knew she was just a protester and nothing else. They even talked about "taking her out" before Rand Paul showed up which has been confirmed by several witnesses.

But it's pretty clear this Tea Party movement is a corporate creation. It's like the zookeepers finding a way for the animals to put themselves in their own cages.
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What scares me about that clip is that there are human beings who would actually gather and chant "Rand Paul Rand Paul". That guy is a scary nutcase, a hypocrite and all-around bad news. And yet, there are people who think he is worth cheering about - and even worse, worth electing to public office. I fear for my country - these are dark days indeed.
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What scares me about that clip is that there are human beings who would actually gather and chant "Rand Paul Rand Paul". That guy is a scary nutcase, a hypocrite and all-around bad news. And yet, there are people who think he is worth cheering about - and even worse, worth electing to public office. I fear for my country - these are dark days indeed.
OK, what is scary about him? Why is he a nutcase? Why is he a hypocrite? Why would having him in office be a bad thing? ...and why is Jack Conway better?
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I love the stupid fucking apologists in this thread. Idiots, all of you.
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You guys are right, the foot tapping he gave to her shoulder to keep her down was grossly inappropriate. She should have been tazered instead.

Then there'd be no fuss.
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:06 PM   #43
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Assault huh?

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Do you know the legal definition of assault? I would say she fit it.

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you almost are never going to be backed up if your first move is to throw a woman on the ground and then stomp on her head..lol
It looked to me like he stomped her shoulder and his foot slipped towards her head. I never got the impression he was attempting to "stomp her head."
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"Stomp" is really stretching it. "Pushed her shoulder with his foot which resulted in some incidental contact with her head" is more accurate.

Describing it as a "curb stomp" is just outright ridiculous.


For those that have no clue what a curb stomp is...



THAT is a curb stomp.

This chick got a love tap by comparisson.
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crap, i was hoping that wouldn't get posted. that scene is disturbing.
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Everyone is right, dude was acting exactly how he should. No wonder the police aren't charging him with anything!

Oh wait, they are!

Fucking morons.
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How can you argue whether it was her shoulder or head that got stepped on?

When a woman is on the ground and motionless, there is no need to put your foot on any part of her body. By the time that clown stepped on her, she was already totally overpowered and subdued and clearly not a threat to anyone. That guy is a total pussy and stepped on a woman when she was already tackled and on the ground. Forget the politics, stomping on a women in that situation makes you a total loser.

How can people defend that? I can see an argument for why she was forcibly pulled away from the car. I don't agree with it, but I can see how an argument can be made for that. But the stomping was totally out of line and criminal no matter how you look at it.
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you really call that a head stomping? hahahaha


thats funny...

my kids stomp me harder than that on a daily basis im not crying about it.....


if he wanted to hurt he he could have.. she deserved it for being a woman
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How can you argue whether it was her shoulder or head that got stepped on?

When a woman is on the ground and motionless, there is no need to put your foot on any part of her body. By the time that clown stepped on her, she was already totally overpowered and subdued and clearly not a threat to anyone. That guy is a total pussy and stepped on a woman when she was already tackled and on the ground. Forget the politics, stomping on a women in that situation makes you a total loser.

How can people defend that? I can see an argument for why she was forcibly pulled away from the car. I don't agree with it, but I can see how an argument can be made for that. But the stomping was totally out of line and criminal no matter how you look at it.

first of all it was not a stomp ......

2nd of all.. have you never been spit on by someone who is crazy like this broad was?


I personally thin he was to soft with her... just cause she was on the ground does not mean she cant hurt anyone...

and remember the rule of thumb where ever the head go's the body follows.... always control the head first
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How can you argue whether it was her shoulder or head that got stepped on?

When a woman is on the ground and motionless, there is no need to put your foot on any part of her body. By the time that clown stepped on her, she was already totally overpowered and subdued and clearly not a threat to anyone. That guy is a total pussy and stepped on a woman when she was already tackled and on the ground. Forget the politics, stomping on a women in that situation makes you a total loser.

How can people defend that? I can see an argument for why she was forcibly pulled away from the car. I don't agree with it, but I can see how an argument can be made for that. But the stomping was totally out of line and criminal no matter how you look at it.
The idiots defending it are either right wing retards or board assholes anyhow. Everyone with common sense, including the DA obviously, think it was bullshit.

This is their typical MO. "But she was doing __________", "She deserved it for assault", etc. Don't forget the straw men "That's not a curb stomp, this is a curb stomp". Whatever they can do to get away from the issue of a grown ass man stepping on someone that was pinned to the ground. Then D talking about his kids, my kids step on me harder too. Difference is, if YOU decide to step on me with malice I will fuck you up regardless of whether or not it hurt. She is 105 lbs, I don't blame her for skipping that part.

The people doing this knew God damned well that she wasn't a threat. They were pissed the fuck off that a protester was there and acted just like the idiots at every other Tea Party rally in flexing their muscles and being shitheads.
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