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Old 11-10-2010, 02:31 PM   #51
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i just smelt an old phart.
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Old 11-10-2010, 02:52 PM   #52
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It's crazy how much magazines used to pay for photo shoots.
They wanted the best for their customers and could afford it. I suppose the two things are linked but the deciding factor was the number of magazines that could go on a delivery van and on a shelf. It limited the titles.

To get on delivery van, which was controlled most times by a distributor and not the publisher, the magazine had to sell in high numbers. To go on a shelf, the magazine had to sell in high numbers. So magazines paid for content that was right for their readers, not the cheapest. Most prices were fixed. We got extra for a large spread, centrefold, front cover.

An editor requiring 6 sets a month would get 60 submitted to him. You got it right or you didn't sell. There was no place for bullshit, buddies, marketing, or being a "Bro" if your content didn't get the readers approval you didn't sell.

Videos broke that mold and started to list more and more titles. At first some saw a benefit in sales. Then when everyone else listed more titles the benefit was lost. So some produced more titles and the merry go round got real crazy. Over all sales didn't increase enough to cover the extra production for the extra sales. And production budgets were cut.

Except with a few companies, Hustler, Vivid, Evil Angel, Anabolic, Private. They kept their production budgets high and their sales reflected it. As others lost sales due to customer dissatisfaction. Customers for porn are repeat buyers, lose one on a brand and he doesn't come back. For some of those who kept quality high it works well, even today. With the Internet hurting their businesses. For others they are giving away their content for pennies, scrambling for business.

Have you seen the process repeated on the Internet?

I'm just an old phart who's still making money from porn after 33 years. Thanks for reminding people maxjohan.
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:02 PM   #53
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johns.... there are no $100 whores, only $100 johns..
This depends if you are the whore or the john, a john see's it one way and a whore see's it another.
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:15 PM   #54
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what turns a $5,000 girl into a $25,000 one?

Whether or not she shows up?

BTW?? Is this hourly, daily, weekly, monthly....????

A bad deal could turn a $5000 dollar night into $25,000 yearly hell...

eek!!!!


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Old 11-10-2010, 05:23 PM   #55
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This depends if you are the whore or the john, a john see's it one way and a whore see's it another.
Of course. But when you look in the mirror and all you see is YOU... its over. You may not think so.. and you may prove me wrong... hate me forever... edit my posts...


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Old 11-11-2010, 03:39 AM   #56
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what turns a $5,000 girl into a $25,000 one?

Whether or not she shows up?

BTW?? Is this hourly, daily, weekly, monthly....????

A bad deal could turn a $5000 dollar night into $25,000 yearly hell...

eek!!!!

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Some girls can show up and still don't know how to make the shooter or publisher money. They can show naked flesh till they're blue in the face but they haven't got it. With some just that extra little ingredient is missing, with others the whole recipe is wrong.

The amounts $5,000 or $25,000 are nominal. It could be me saying "What makes one girl worth 5 times more than the next girl?" Or "What makes a girl filler content and what makes her a pornstar?"

So here in my opinion is what makes a girl a pornstar rather than a naked piece of flesh.

Personality is the most important thing. Nearly very girl I shot or met who went to the top in this business had personality. Some only had it on camera, most had it all the time. Sabby I've known girls who YOU is good enough. Whether looking into a camera or the mirror what they had was good enough and only needed a little honing to make it great.

Sexuality. For video abso-bloody-lutely. It's what makes one girl stand out above all the others. It's what makes the viewer sit up and see HER, along with her personality and not what she's doing or being done to her. Very rarely do you meet a pornstar who doesn't get sexual pleasure out of what she does. OK maybe 0on some scenes like Vivid where they shoot it stop start all day it's tough. But when she's aloud to get on with it, she's in there enjoying herself.

Freedom. Without the freedom to express her personality and sexuality to the camera the two elements are lost.

Individuality. So many scenes and girls leave the viewer today thinking "OK that was nice." In 2010 nice isn't good enough. Not sure it ever was, today it's definitely not good enough. The girl has to stand out as I said before, as an individual. On camera.

Good looks you would think are the most obvious and required. In porn it's not always True. Donna Warner or Roxanne Hall could never be described as good looking, but they both brought that little extra to their work that made cocks hard. Good looks help but not essential. Just pretty will do.

Today is the day of the Tube site. No porn consumer HAS to buy. He's spoiled by a deluge of mediocre porn on Tubes. To get him to buy you have to offer him so much. He's KING and God like never before. Unless your girls stand out and the shooting stands out he might as well keep his CC in his wallet. In fact many do when it comes to buying porn.

Because he's not presented with enough reasons to buy.
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