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Phoenix · 11-08-2010, 11:08 AM

i called and they wont help at all

im spending my entire day on this

Ravage · 11-08-2010, 12:59 PM

Went through that shit-storm myself on one my company card. A charge showed up to a site I've never heard of about two months after TPF. I have a pretty good idea who's behind them but haven't gathered enough proof to back up a public claim on it.

BIGTYMER · 11-08-2010, 02:03 PM

I've seen a ton of shady sites using them recently.

MaxxB · 11-08-2010, 02:11 PM

it's so funny - I just checked one of my CC statements and I also see $38.XX charges each month and even 2 charges this month!! I didn't have any active membership with them. That is for sure.

WiredGuy · 11-08-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris

Went through that shit-storm myself on one my company card. A charge showed up to a site I've never heard of about two months after TPF. I have a pretty good idea who's behind them but haven't gathered enough proof to back up a public claim on it.

There was a thead on gfy a few months after phoenix forum and a letter from Destination Hotels apologizing for their security breach. Cardholders did have their credit card numbers stolen from a large number of Destination Hotels including The Tempe Mission Palms.
WG

erooup · 11-08-2010, 02:18 PM

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Ravage · 11-08-2010, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy

There was a thead on gfy a few months after phoenix forum and a letter from Destination Hotels apologizing for their security breach. Cardholders did have their credit card numbers stolen from a large number of Destination Hotels including The Tempe Mission Palms.
WG

Yea I remember that thread, but my charge was different. I don't believe it is linked to the actual TPF incident many incurred, but at the time it was just so close to that incident that I couldn't rule it out 100%.

I did some original snooping to figure out where the charge came from, which site it was for, who runs it, etc. A quick Google search on "EPGbill scam" shows there's enough people complaining that there are unauthorized charges on their cards and EPGBill is unwilling to offer assistance to refund the charge. Further checking lead to the support site my charge came from with further tracing down to a few from 2009 using the same support site template with names linked through various BS companies.

Again, I've got a pretty good idea who's behind it, but I can't prove it enough in the GFY admin court.

MaxxB · 11-08-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Adult Rental Chris

Yea I remember that thread, but my charge was different. I don't believe it is linked to the actual TPF incident many incurred, but at the time it was just so close to that incident that I couldn't rule it out 100%.

I did some original snooping to figure out where the charge came from, which site it was for, who runs it, etc. A quick Google search on "EPGbill scam" shows there's enough people complaining that there are unauthorized charges on their cards and EPGBill is unwilling to offer assistance to refund the charge. Further checking lead to the support site my charge came from with further tracing down to a few from 2009 using the same support site template with names linked through various BS companies.

Again, I've got a pretty good idea who's behind it, but I can't prove it enough in the GFY admin court.

so there is no way to solve this problem with them and get refunds??
I tried their live support but they told they will forward my request to their accounting dep

Phoenix · 11-08-2010, 03:10 PM

yeah i tried to cancel by calling them...their custoemr service hung up..lol

ill just cancel my card i guess

Ravage · 11-08-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the AngEl

so there is no way to solve this problem with them and get refunds??
I tried their live support but they told they will forward my request to their accounting dep

Well my charge had the support site URL on my statement description, so I emailed the email addy on the site while investigating who the fuck they actually were.
They got back to me in a couple days saying they cancelled and refunded one of the charges. I requested a new card number from MC as a pre-caution.
I know I didn't join that site, so somewhere along the lines my number got scooped somewhere.

Agent 488 · 11-08-2010, 03:47 PM

isn't EPGBILL the processor for the sobv sites? i guess you have to keep sales coming in some way once you have no affiliates anymore.

rowan · 11-08-2010, 04:21 PM

Don't know if these help, may give you some extra hints on contacting them...

http://www.europaymentgroup.com/
http://www.europeandebit.com/

BoardiesBitch · 11-09-2010, 03:47 AM

i met Christian at a tradeshow recently, he's a cool guy
but his system - from what i heard and read here and there - is the worse.
Once you make a transaction with them, you basically have to cancel your credit card right ?

Who is using EPG bill ?
Do we have a list of people using them ?

MaxxB · 11-09-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BoardiesBitch

i met Christian at a tradeshow recently, he's a cool guy
but his system - from what i heard and read here and there - is the worse.
Once you make a transaction with them, you basically have to cancel your credit card right ?

Who is using EPG bill ?
Do we have a list of people using them ?

that is no a problem with their software

that is called fraud and shoudl be reported to Visa/MC

I don't understand how do they manage to keep their c/b ratio in required level

MaxxB · 11-09-2010, 04:35 AM

btw are there any representatives of EPGBill on GFY??

where is that Christian??

11-08-2010, 11:08 AM	#1
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11-08-2010, 12:59 PM	#2
Ravage Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 2,242	Went through that shit-storm myself on one my company card. A charge showed up to a site I've never heard of about two months after TPF. I have a pretty good idea who's behind them but haven't gathered enough proof to back up a public claim on it. __________________ Formerly known as Adult Rental Chris ICQ - 452-693-463 \| Skype: xravagex

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Phoenix BACON BACON BACON Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poems everybody, the laddie fancies himself a poet Posts: 35,457	yeah i tried to cancel by calling them...their custoemr service hung up..lol ill just cancel my card i guess __________________ Skype Phoenixskype1 Telegram PhoenixBrad https://quantads.io

11-09-2010, 03:47 AM	#13
BoardiesBitch Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 861	i met Christian at a tradeshow recently, he's a cool guy but his system - from what i heard and read here and there - is the worse. Once you make a transaction with them, you basically have to cancel your credit card right ? Who is using EPG bill ? Do we have a list of people using them ? __________________ XXXBlackBook RESPONSIVE - SexPlayCam RESPONSIVE - BlackTryst RESPONSIVE Up to $60 Per TRIAL - SubID+Pixel/Postback tracking arno at loadedcash. com - Skype : arnaud.tac SIGNUP here and send me your login so i can set you up

11-08-2010, 02:03 PM	#3
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	I've seen a ton of shady sites using them recently.

11-08-2010, 02:11 PM	#4
MaxxB Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Heaven Posts: 227	it's so funny - I just checked one of my CC statements and I also see $38.XX charges each month and even 2 charges this month!! I didn't have any active membership with them. That is for sure.

11-08-2010, 02:18 PM	#6
erooup Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 512	Jettis V2.0

11-08-2010, 03:47 PM	#11
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	isn't EPGBILL the processor for the sobv sites? i guess you have to keep sales coming in some way once you have no affiliates anymore.

11-08-2010, 04:21 PM	#12
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	Don't know if these help, may give you some extra hints on contacting them... http://www.europaymentgroup.com/ http://www.europeandebit.com/

11-09-2010, 04:35 AM	#15
MaxxB Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Heaven Posts: 227	btw are there any representatives of EPGBill on GFY?? where is that Christian??