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botfurom · 11-11-2010, 03:51 AM

I am creating a clone program I want to know what is the code for me to check sales without logging in NATS program (main program) In short I am creating a white label, I want to access the statistics, refunds, cbs, and revokes from NATS to another domain as well, is anybody knows what would be the code for this.

Thanks For helping in advance.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-11-2010, 03:57 AM

NATS API doesn't allow for this. You need to contract out to a developer, and have him write a bot which emulates a human, logs into NATS, and pulls the appropriate stats for you.

Not difficult to do, but just takes a bit of time.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

NATS API doesn't allow for this. You need to contract out to a developer, and have him write a bot which emulates a human, logs into NATS, and pulls the appropriate stats for you.

Not difficult to do, but just takes a bit of time.

Yeah I figure that out API doesn't allow to do it, can you recommend to do this one if you know some? That would be a big helped for me tho.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-11-2010, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by botfurom

Yeah I figure that out API doesn't allow to do it, can you recommend to do this one if you know some? That would be a big helped for me tho.

If wanted, drop me an e-mail with more info: troywilk [at] gmail.com

I've integrated loads of NATS run programs into a sales reporting system before, so no issues there. LustDollars, PimpMansion, RudeAffair, and about a dozen others probably.

If wanted, e-mail me with more info, and we'll go from there.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

If wanted, drop me an e-mail with more info: troywilk [at] gmail.com

I've integrated loads of NATS run programs into a sales reporting system before, so no issues there. LustDollars, PimpMansion, RudeAffair, and about a dozen others probably.

If wanted, e-mail me with more info, and we'll go from there.

I sent an email to you.

iSpyCams · 11-11-2010, 04:15 AM

There was a 3rd party software that did it for nats3, but doesnt seem to be supported in nats 4

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

There was a 3rd party software that did it for nats3, but doesnt seem to be supported in nats 4

I am looking at it also and Yes it doesn't work in NATS 4, I hope somebody can help me this.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-11-2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

There was a 3rd party software that did it for nats3, but doesnt seem to be supported in nats 4

I guess I don't know about NATS 3, but I think it's impossible to make a standardized software for that in NATS 4, no? They don't offer an API allowing you to download a nice XML feed of stats, or anything.

So you have to write a script to emulate a human, and every program out there has it's own design, so you have to parse the HTML differently for every program to pull the stats.

Or maybe I'm missing something?

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

I guess I don't know about NATS 3, but I think it's impossible to make a standardized software for that in NATS 4, no? They don't offer an API allowing you to download a nice XML feed of stats, or anything.

So you have to write a script to emulate a human, and every program out there has it's own design, so you have to parse the HTML differently for every program to pull the stats.

Or maybe I'm missing something?

I shoot an email to you now, hopefully we can work this out together.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 04:42 AM

I really need some helped! Bump for a little exposure.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 05:33 AM

Little bump for help

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 05:52 AM

I need more help in this one please!!!

iSpyCams · 11-11-2010, 06:44 AM

Settle down for fuck's sake.

Nobody is going to want to help a hyperactive little whiner that bumps his own shit every 5 minutes.

Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have somebody like you on ICQ? If I was inclined to help you before I am not now.

TheDoc · 11-11-2010, 07:03 AM

What you're asking for isn't simple... it's one of the main reasons you don't see people making new backends for nats.

Depending on the data you want... admin and/or affiliate or both and how it's split up, it would be no cheaper than $2k and upwards of $15k (or more if you need a real wl setup) if you're wanting to gather/display a lot of different data. It would be early Dec before I could have it started.

I would recommend getting another copy of nats and duplicate the tables over you want, before trying to make your own wl system which is a total pain in the ass.

Kiopa_Matt · 11-11-2010, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

What you're asking for isn't simple...

Yes it is. He just needs to pull basic stats (# of sales, joins, rebills, etc.). Depending on how much of a back-end he currently has is place, that's a 2 - 20 hour job. If he already has a nicely done back-end, with say Smarty templates, then it's a simple 2 - 3 hour job.

TheDoc · 11-11-2010, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

Yes it is. He just needs to pull basic stats (# of sales, joins, rebills, etc.). Depending on how much of a back-end he currently has is place, that's a 2 - 20 hour job. If he already has a nicely done back-end, with say Smarty templates, then it's a simple 2 - 3 hour job.

Then rack it out...

It's an easy $2k for ya before the weekend.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 07:36 AM

NATS is licensed on a per affiliate program basis. You are you not allowed to create another affiliate program using the same install.

iSpyCams · 11-11-2010, 09:01 AM

He's trying to do a white label for chat and blackhat traffic.

The purpose of these white labels are to allow affiliates to receive real-time stats while at the same time:

1) Hide payout amounts from affiliates
2) Hide the actual affiliate program name from affiliates (so they cant go around the broker reselling the joins)
3) Hide the fact that a program is accepting blackhat traffic from their legitemate webmasters

It's not a seperate affiliate program, its just a hidden program.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

He's trying to do a white label for chat and blackhat traffic.

The purpose of these white labels are to allow affiliates to receive real-time stats while at the same time:

1) Hide payout amounts from affiliates
2) Hide the actual affiliate program name from affiliates (so they cant go around the broker reselling the joins)
3) Hide the fact that a program is accepting blackhat traffic from their legitemate webmasters

It's not a seperate affiliate program, its just a hidden program.

Thank you so much for clarifying and I apologized for the bumping.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RDFrame

Yes it is. He just needs to pull basic stats (# of sales, joins, rebills, etc.). Depending on how much of a back-end he currently has is place, that's a 2 - 20 hour job. If he already has a nicely done back-end, with say Smarty templates, then it's a simple 2 - 3 hour job.

TheDoc · 11-11-2010, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by botfurom

Add a table with the aff username for the chat/bh people. Use a smarty plugin, if the username matches the one logged in, turn off pages, stats, sections or whatever you want. Or maybe switch skins based on the user, which can load whatever you need.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Add a table with the aff username for the chat/bh people. Use a smarty plugin, if the username matches the one logged in, turn off pages, stats, sections or whatever you want. Or maybe switch skins based on the user, which can load whatever you need.

The problem is I do not know the plug ins to be used or the codes to pull out those information.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

He's trying to do a white label for chat and blackhat traffic.

The purpose of these white labels are to allow affiliates to receive real-time stats while at the same time:

1) Hide payout amounts from affiliates
2) Hide the actual affiliate program name from affiliates (so they cant go around the broker reselling the joins)
3) Hide the fact that a program is accepting blackhat traffic from their legitemate webmasters

It's not a seperate affiliate program, its just a hidden program.

And it's not allowed.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

And it's not allowed.

Well John there is a lot of people are using this way nowadays there is just someone told me about this but I cannot disclosed any information here.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by botfurom

Well John there is a lot of people are using this way nowadays there is just someone told me about this but I cannot disclosed any information here.

And when they are found, they are dealt with. Happy to hear you know of people who are violating our policies & licensing, but refuse to say who they are.

There are ways to do it properly. Some of these people you know of may be doing it properly. What you are asking for here is not the proper way.

TheDoc · 11-11-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

And it's not allowed.

Several NATS Programs already do this.... Not to bust your balls John, but I know without question your lic doesn't not extend to the data.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Several NATS Programs already do this.... Not to bust your balls John, but I know without question your lic doesn't not extend to the data.

E-mail me a copy of that license.

iSpyCams · 11-11-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

And it's not allowed.

How does this differ essentially from any other remote stats application such as for example, niftystats?

TheDoc · 11-11-2010, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

E-mail me a copy of that license.

Exactly.... once you can produce a Lic that says you own the data, let me know.

myneid · 11-11-2010, 09:46 AM

if you really want to do custom stuff you should fork out the money and hire a programmer. have them make you your own affiliate program, then you can do whatever you want.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Exactly.... once you can produce a Lic that says you own the data, let me know.

This has nothing to do with using the data. It has to do with running an affiliate program using our software on multiple domain names with one license.

I like how you state you know for a fact something states something, then when asked to produce it, you turn it to the other person to produce the opposite.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:47 AM

John, you should allow it there is nothing wrong with it, and the way I ask is in proper way, tell me what wrong that I've been done and I will make it right, I am asking just a help anyways, no other intention to copyright your data, white label to a program is not intention to used it in illegal way as well as several people using this kind of stuff.

Daniel

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

How does this differ essentially from any other remote stats application such as for example, niftystats?

Niftystats / Statsremote are stats tools for affiliates. NATS is licensed on a per affiliate program basis. You license a copy to run xyzcash.com. If someone wants to access that data to build custom reports that is fine. If they want to use that data to run an affiliate program also on abccash.com with another brand/look/point of entry/etc. then they are in violation of the use of that license.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by botfurom

John, you should allow it there is nothing wrong it, and they way I ask is in proper way, tell what wrong I've done and I will make it correctly, I am asking just a help anyways, no other intention to copyright your data, white label to a program is not being copied or used it in illegal way as well as several people using this kind of stuff.

Daniel

You are more than welcome to contact me to discuss the proper ways of doing it.

TheDoc · 11-11-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

This has nothing to do with using the data. It has to do with running an affiliate program using our software on multiple domain names with one license.

I like how you state you know for a fact something states something, then when asked to produce it, you turn it to the other person to produce the opposite.

Nobody is running another program on another domain...NATS wouldn't even function if you tried that.

So being that it's the Owners data, being used OUTSIDE of NATS. Not on the nats software, it's not multiple domains on one lic.

It's the data, put any place the person wants.

kristin · 11-11-2010, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

This has nothing to do with using the data. It has to do with running an affiliate program using our software on multiple domain names with one license.

I like how you state you know for a fact something states something, then when asked to produce it, you turn it to the other person to produce the opposite.

But if it's done through the Smarty Plugin where they just turn info off and it's on the same domain, wouldn't that work per your rules?

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kristin

But if it's done through the Smarty Plugin where they just turn info off and it's on the same domain, wouldn't that work per your rules?

No, it won't.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

You are more than welcome to contact me to discuss the proper ways of doing it.

Thank you and I will contact you very soon.

kristin · 11-11-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

No, it won't.

K, why? I'm not being a douche, I'm really curious as to why this isn't allowed if it's on the same domain.

iSpyCams · 11-11-2010, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

This has nothing to do with using the data. It has to do with running an affiliate program using our software on multiple domain names with one license.

I like how you state you know for a fact something states something, then when asked to produce it, you turn it to the other person to produce the opposite.

As a Nats licensee, I am extremely curious now as to what constitutes "another" affiliate program, and whether remotely displaying stats from a licensed install on another url constitutes a TOS violation.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

Nobody is running another program on another domain...NATS wouldn't even function if you tried that.

So being that it's the Owners data, being used OUTSIDE of NATS. Not on the nats software, it's not multiple domains on one lic.

It's the data, put any place the person wants.

I'm not going to argue with you about the rules regarding our products. I've explained the issue and our rules regarding it here.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

As a Nats licensee, I am extremely curious now as to what constitutes "another" affiliate program, and whether remotely displaying stats from a licensed install on another url constitutes a TOS violation.

If you're displaying the stats for the purpose of it being another affiliate program, then yes. If you've made some custom admin reports that you happen to have on another domain, then no.

Another affiliate program is exactly that, another affiliate program.

If you have a specific example you're concerned about, you're more than welcome to contact me about it.

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:55 AM

People stop having argument I am asking for help not argument please. If you can suggest better that would be fine. If not stay away from this thread it make no sense visiting this thread without opinion.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by botfurom

People stop having argument I am asking for help not argument please. If you can suggest better that would be fine. If not stay away from this thread it make no sense visiting this thread without opinion.

Why don't you contact me so we can help you setup exactly what you need properly?

botfurom · 11-11-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

If you're displaying the stats for the purpose of it being another affiliate program, then yes. If you've made some custom admin reports that you happen to have on another domain, then no.

Another affiliate program is exactly that, another affiliate program.

If you have a specific example you're concerned about, you're more than welcome to contact me about it.

Well what I ask is only a data not an admin reports its only sub account or log in to another domain to check summary of their own sales. I am trying to hide my Affiliate Program due to brokers and pretending they are part of it. Hopefully you understand that.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by botfurom

Well what I ask is only a data not an admin reports its only sub account or log in to another domain to check summary of their own sales. I am trying to hide my Affiliate Program due to brokers and pretending they are part of it. Hopefully you understand that.

Yes, I do, and we have a solution for it. Please contact me so we can discuss the options for building what you need.

iSpyCams · 11-11-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TMM_John

If you're displaying the stats for the purpose of it being another affiliate program, then yes. If you've made some custom admin reports that you happen to have on another domain, then no.

Another affiliate program is exactly that, another affiliate program.

If you have a specific example you're concerned about, you're more than welcome to contact me about it.

edit: my question was answered.

woj · 11-11-2010, 10:07 AM

How do you define an "affiliate program"? Same sites, same terms, etc, but just different design on a different domain is considered a different affiliate program?
so if you run xyzcash.com and wanted to setup xyzcash-ru.com (for Russian webmasters) by just "mounting" xyzcash-ru.com to xyzcsah.com and using some smarty magic to pull different templates on xyzcash-ru.com, that's not allowed?

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pompousjohn

ok so if I was to register customadminreportsthatjohnsaidwasok.com and displayed simplified affiliate stats on there that would be ok?

Even if someone else called it a white label?

It's a lot more complex than that. You can't always answer a simplified version of an issue.

If customadminreportsthatjohnsaidwasok.com is accepting affiliate signups or logins to check stats and is considered the affiliate program by those who are using that site/url/brand/etc. to promote it, then no, that is not okay as it is another affiliate program and it would have to also be licensed.

We can't have a situation where someone wants to run 20 different affiliate programs so they license one copy of NATS and use it to run all 20 of the affiliate programs they want to run. I know that is not the specific case here, but it's an example of why we license NATS on a per affiliate program basis.

TMM_John · 11-11-2010, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

How do you define an "affiliate program"? Same sites, same terms, etc, but just different design on a different domain is considered a different affiliate program?
so if you run xyzcash.com and wanted to setup xyzcash-ru.com (for Russian webmasters) by just "mounting" xyzcash-ru.com to xyzcsah.com and using some smarty magic to pull different templates on xyzcash-ru.com, that's not allowed?

Again, there are other factors. Is xyzcash-ru.com being marketed as another affiliate program to Russians? Is it their point of login, getting stats, using the affiliate program, etc.? If so, then yes, that is another affiliate program and would need licensing also.

11-11-2010, 03:51 AM	#1
botfurom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever Posts: 482	NATS code Help!! I am creating a clone program I want to know what is the code for me to check sales without logging in NATS program (main program) In short I am creating a white label, I want to access the statistics, refunds, cbs, and revokes from NATS to another domain as well, is anybody knows what would be the code for this. Thanks For helping in advance. __________________ Hate chat traffic? Referred to us and earned $3.7 every sale!!! You have craiglist traffic? Give us a shot we pay $40 PPS. ICQ: 629933616 Yahoo: danicacmp Email: [email protected]

11-11-2010, 03:57 AM	#2
Kiopa_Matt Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,448	NATS API doesn't allow for this. You need to contract out to a developer, and have him write a bot which emulates a human, logs into NATS, and pulls the appropriate stats for you. Not difficult to do, but just takes a bit of time. __________________ xMarkPro -- Ultimate Blog Network Management Streamline your marketing operations. Centralize management of domains, pages, Wordpress blogs, sponsors, link codes, media items, sales and traffic statistics, plus more!

11-11-2010, 04:42 AM	#10
botfurom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever Posts: 482	I really need some helped! Bump for a little exposure. __________________ Hate chat traffic? Referred to us and earned $3.7 every sale!!! You have craiglist traffic? Give us a shot we pay $40 PPS. ICQ: 629933616 Yahoo: danicacmp Email: [email protected]

11-11-2010, 05:33 AM	#11
botfurom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever Posts: 482	Little bump for help __________________ Hate chat traffic? Referred to us and earned $3.7 every sale!!! You have craiglist traffic? Give us a shot we pay $40 PPS. ICQ: 629933616 Yahoo: danicacmp Email: [email protected]

11-11-2010, 05:52 AM	#12
botfurom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever Posts: 482	I need more help in this one please!!! __________________ Hate chat traffic? Referred to us and earned $3.7 every sale!!! You have craiglist traffic? Give us a shot we pay $40 PPS. ICQ: 629933616 Yahoo: danicacmp Email: [email protected]

11-11-2010, 04:15 AM	#6
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	There was a 3rd party software that did it for nats3, but doesnt seem to be supported in nats 4

11-11-2010, 06:44 AM	#13
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	Settle down for fuck's sake. Nobody is going to want to help a hyperactive little whiner that bumps his own shit every 5 minutes. Can you imagine how annoying it would be to have somebody like you on ICQ? If I was inclined to help you before I am not now.

11-11-2010, 07:03 AM	#14
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	What you're asking for isn't simple... it's one of the main reasons you don't see people making new backends for nats. Depending on the data you want... admin and/or affiliate or both and how it's split up, it would be no cheaper than $2k and upwards of $15k (or more if you need a real wl setup) if you're wanting to gather/display a lot of different data. It would be early Dec before I could have it started. I would recommend getting another copy of nats and duplicate the tables over you want, before trying to make your own wl system which is a total pain in the ass. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

11-11-2010, 07:36 AM	#17
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,658	NATS is licensed on a per affiliate program basis. You are you not allowed to create another affiliate program using the same install. __________________ Skype: JohnA1078 Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

11-11-2010, 09:01 AM	#18
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	He's trying to do a white label for chat and blackhat traffic. The purpose of these white labels are to allow affiliates to receive real-time stats while at the same time: 1) Hide payout amounts from affiliates 2) Hide the actual affiliate program name from affiliates (so they cant go around the broker reselling the joins) 3) Hide the fact that a program is accepting blackhat traffic from their legitemate webmasters It's not a seperate affiliate program, its just a hidden program.

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myneid Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 736	if you really want to do custom stuff you should fork out the money and hire a programmer. have them make you your own affiliate program, then you can do whatever you want. __________________ Tanguy 0x7a69 inc. Programmer/President/CEO http://www.0x7a69.com A Leader in Programming since 1996 PHP, Ruby on Rails, MySQL, PCI DSS, and any Technical Consulting

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botfurom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever Posts: 482	John, you should allow it there is nothing wrong with it, and the way I ask is in proper way, tell me what wrong that I've been done and I will make it right, I am asking just a help anyways, no other intention to copyright your data, white label to a program is not intention to used it in illegal way as well as several people using this kind of stuff. Daniel __________________ Hate chat traffic? Referred to us and earned $3.7 every sale!!! You have craiglist traffic? Give us a shot we pay $40 PPS. ICQ: 629933616 Yahoo: danicacmp Email: [email protected] Last edited by botfurom; 11-11-2010 at 09:49 AM..

11-11-2010, 09:55 AM	#43
botfurom Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wherever Posts: 482	People stop having argument I am asking for help not argument please. If you can suggest better that would be fine. If not stay away from this thread it make no sense visiting this thread without opinion. __________________ Hate chat traffic? Referred to us and earned $3.7 every sale!!! You have craiglist traffic? Give us a shot we pay $40 PPS. ICQ: 629933616 Yahoo: danicacmp Email: [email protected]

11-11-2010, 10:07 AM	#48
woj <&(©¿©)&> Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 47,882	How do you define an "affiliate program"? Same sites, same terms, etc, but just different design on a different domain is considered a different affiliate program? so if you run xyzcash.com and wanted to setup xyzcash-ru.com (for Russian webmasters) by just "mounting" xyzcash-ru.com to xyzcsah.com and using some smarty magic to pull different templates on xyzcash-ru.com, that's not allowed? __________________ Custom Software Development, email: woj#at#wojfun#.#com to discuss details or skype: wojl2000 or gchat: wojfun or telegram: wojl2000 Affiliate program tools: Hosted Galleries Manager Banner Manager Video Manager Wordpress Affiliate Plugin Pic/Movie of the Day Fansign Generator Zip Manager Last edited by woj; 11-11-2010 at 10:09 AM..