brandonstills

What are the numbers as a percentage change for each income bracket?

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Brandon Stills
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Sly

Cuts, no cuts. Republican, Democrat.

I think it's pretty safe to say that most of us do not trust Congress and/or our government as a whole. Why are we so hellbent on handing over more money? I just don't get it.

Let's say, just for example, that the whole population agrees to a tax rate increase of 15%. Everyone. Rich, poor, everyone.

Do we really trust the government, as a whole, with that extra 15%? If you are Democrat, you will most likely not trust the Republicans. If you are Republican, you will most likely not trust the Democrats. Somebody you don't like is going to be in control of the money, regardless of which party is in power at any given date.

Why are we arguing so hard to give these people more money? We see what they did with the Social Security money... they spent it. It's all gone. Now we have to fix Social Security by paying more money, that they will just spend again. And again. And again. And that's just one example. If money is laying around, they spend it. That's how the government works. In my house, if money is laying around... it gets put into a safe spot so that it's available when it's really needed. Right now is one of those times where that money is really needed. And there's nothing there.

It doesn't really matter who pays what anymore. It will be squandered away anyway.

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tony286

Actually when you consider how large government is it works pretty good. The old folks get their checks every month,they scream dont touch my medicare which is a government program. We have one of the greatest fighting forces in the world. Those who serve get thier college paid for. Thats government. Shit it was government that funded the creatation of the net. Its not bad at all Also just so i understand to blame w for economy is wrong because barry is now president. But 911 and the deaths of 3000 americans happened during bush but the right screamed its clintons fault hmmm.

BlackCrayon

please, the government is nothing more than puppets for the corps. we (yes even you) are at their mercy. their money gets bills passed, regulations changed so they can go on being financial predators. don't worry, the rich will continue to get tax breaks but the rich don't consider you rich, so get over youself. dem or republican, it doesn't matter. its all just a stupid game to keep the rabble busy while they fuck us (EVERYONE) in the ass repeatedly.

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Tom_PM

Yes they did. They even said in some circles that bush inherited 911 and they werent kidding. Even though there's speeches where clinton begs the gop controlled congress for a bill to wiretap suspected terrorists. There's just no intellectual honesty in politics unless it's also convenient.

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stocktrader23

Not according to Bush he doesn't. He just signed out all of the shit he didn't approve which is exactly what Obama should have been doing the entire time to piss off the idiotic fucks like you. Democrats like to be rational and try to work together, this is their problem. Rather than give you all a well deserved 'fuck you' he actually thinks any conservative is capable of rational thought and reason. They aren't, fuck them. I wish he'd go ghetto and call them all out on TV 24/7 for the lying, piece of shit hypocrites that they are. Oh, and Congress could easily force through whatever they wanted like the Republican tards did but they too have no spine. That doesn't make you any smarter or any more right, it's just the way things are.

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IllTestYourGirls

What is against their interest? The wealthy getting a "Tax break" does not help me UNLESS the government is irresposnsable and makes promises it can not keep and spends beyond its means. That is not the fault of the rich or poor getting to keep their money it is the fault of the government an no one else.

As far as the rich fucking up and feeling the pinch. There is enough blame from everyone on why the economy is in the dumps. The middle class extended their credit to much, then expected the government to help them when they fucked up. The rich made and were forced to make bad investments then expected the government to bail them out.

You are falling for the trap. You are playing the roll of a useful idiot quiet well. They bribe you with your own money and you thank them for it

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Vendzilla

What are you talking about?
Democrats working together? They are like herding cats
Did you completely wash out in english, because what you're blathering about makes no sence

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

Vendzilla

Government has a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit, It needs to reduce that
They blames Clinton because He had Bin Laden

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...0/181819.shtml

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

BFT3K

The people voted Obama for president, dumb ass. Some of his campaign positions, for which he was elected, were to reform healthcare, regulate Wall Street, and allow the Bush tax cuts for the rich TO EXPIRE.

For these promises (and many more), he was elected into office. So, if you want to stick with "what the people wanted" - Obama was elected by the people, and if they did not want healthcare reform and an end to the Bush tax cuts, then he would not have been elected.

IllTestYourGirls

And clearly in 2010 after seeing what Obama has done the public does not want his type of reform.

Lets face it the only reason Obama won was because everyone was sick and tired of Bush. But Obama has made Bush look good.

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GatorB

you do realize that the first 2 years the dems had to deal with a republican president with veto power

How did the US do with 6 years of total republican power? Oh yeah the created the worst financial crisis since the great depression.

GatorB

BULLSHIT and most Americans WANT healthcare reform. ALl the neo-con republitards like to skew FACTS.

IllTestYourGirls

Reading what I wrote might help I said they DONT LIKE HIS REFORM.

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BFT3K

Keeping the tax cuts in place FOR INCOME UP TO $250K GIVES EVERYONE A FUCKING TAX BREAK, UP TO $250K!

For those above that bracket, the tax breaks that went into effect under Bush, simply expire. The fact that they were set up to expire IS THE ONLY REASON THEY FUCKING PASSED TO BEGIN WITH!

It is like attempting to have a conversation with a fucking monkey.

wig

Seriously, you characters focus to much on the politics, which has almost no measurable effect on the things that are important to you, and that you attribute to a given parties credit or blame.

It's good humor, though.

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DudeRick

BFT3K (Butt Fucked Troll 3000) Got his ass handed to him again!

BFT3K

Not in this thread I didn't.

You either can't read, or you cannot comprehend, or likely, both.

Life must be really tough for you, with your clear lack of common intelligence and all...

What do you do in this business again?

DudeRick

kbauerctu

Spoken for truth right here. Republican, Democrat, neo-con, liberal. or conservative, it matters not. Wake up! the rugs being pulled out from under us. Were all being duped. And the fact that the USA's populations income inequality reflects a third world country, should set off some alarm bells.

Vendzilla

Promises like Gitmo? End of DADT? END of EarMarks?

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

Vendzilla

I'm not sticking up for the GOP, am I?
No I'm coming down on the democrats for fucking up, Name something that the democrats tried to push thru that the GW vetoed!

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

RaiderCash_Dominik

Thats just plain stupid. Of course the amount is going to get bigger when someone is making 1 million. You should look at % not the amount itself. Don't see how someone who's making a million should not be entitled to same benefit as one who's making 40K.

tony286

Then they should do away with the tax cuts. 700 billion takes care of a good chunk of that. Quote me a real news source than I will go with it. Again clinton wasnt president when 3000 people died bush was and he had in august intel that bin laden to attack us with planes.

tony286

It doesnt matter its the dems fault. Even when the right had it all and could change things and didnt its still the dems fault. Thats their answer and when they have it all back and it doesnt get better. They will blame one term president obama but then its ok because they are doing it.

Vendzilla

Reduce what they are spending, giving them more money to blow is insane.
More money in the hands of the people is better

4 years ago, it was the GOP's fault.
4 Years ago, the democrats promised change, we got change, it's worse
They just got givin walking papers, now it's time for the new GOP members to prove themselves

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Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
think about that

tony286

The cutting spending isnt welfare its a very small piece of the pie, so are ear marks or pork whatever its called at the moment, its military, social security, medicare and huge subsidies for big business. They will talk all the bullshit and will do nothing. Maybe cut somethings that fuck with poor people but nothing that means a shit.Because they all know its a political third rail.

IllTestYourGirls

So you are saying it is mostly socialist programs that are bankrupting our country, man who would have thought!

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12clicks

When you see how these guys think, the reason for their failure becomes clear.

Dipshit, it was a taxcut for ALL tax payers. You, Obama, and similar trash want to keep it for everyone EXCEPT those already paying the most in taxes.

God, life is going to suck for you.

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12clicks

Oh, to have it all figured out and still live with mommy......

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BlackCrayon

oh, to have nothing figured out and living off money made years ago which is dwindling but seriously, you really think the government is going to do anything in your interest? its all about profit by any means necessary, which you should know something about. its only self serving.

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BFT3K

Look Douche Bag - this is a blue fucking fish.

What color do YOU think it is?

Maxi

Rich pay more because they can afford to pay more you fucking dog, you wanna fuckin take 40% from someone earning 12k a year? They're going to starve, but if you pay 4 million out of 10 to tax you aren't starving besides it's not like the rich would ever pay the full 40% anyway, they have a thousand ways to reduce tax especially if they own a business.

You're just a republican faggot, you want wars but you don't want to pay taxes, where's the money going to come from to satisfy your blood lust?

You wanna make 10 million dollars a year? Then the price you pay is 40% tax, if you have a problem with that go take a job at mc donalds.

The Demon

Leave it to Bft3k and slutboat to make the Republicans look good.

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cykoe6

That is 700 Billion that can be thrown down the endless black hole of the big government fraud and waste machine...... or else it could stay in the pockets of the people who earned it who can use it to buy products, start businesses, hire employees, etc.


It is actually very simple.

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