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MetaMan · 11-15-2010, 09:18 PM

It is fucking sick for anyone who does that to children.

Anyone whos parents who did it are completely uninformed and most likely half brain dead.

DateDoc · 11-15-2010, 09:30 PM

holy cow this made three pages?

bhutocracy · 11-15-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

That's what I love about GFY..arguments made that make absolutely NO SENSE to the subject at hand.

Back up your claim that it makes no sense.

You are removing a dozen square inches of surface area for diseases to attach to or develop on. If I had my arm removed I'd be about 10% less likely to develop skin cancer. Hell if I had my entire penis removed i'd have a -100% chance of developing penlie cancer. Doesn't mean I'd do it. You have to look at the sampling methodology and determination of the statistics.

Female circumcision and of course the dreaded muslims were used to juxtapose the support for an unfamiliar religious genital custom with a familiar one. In western countries muslims tend to "only" do a "ritualised nick" of the clitoral hood although of course some do still get sent back to grand parents in their home countries for a "holiday".
Basically the point is that we are ok with what we are familiar with. Everyone is used to circumcision in our culture so it doesn't seem like a big deal to remove a body part for neglible (if any) benefits on balance without informed consent. Just like some orthodox Jews don't think there is too much wrong with a mohel sucking on their baby's penis with his mouth after circumcision (mezizah), but you'd take a shotgun to someone you found doing the same thing in your baby's room without a second's thought.

Centurion · 11-16-2010, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by roly

Good for you, the tonsils protect you against infection and the appendix has been found to "Researchers in the United States say the appendix produces and protects good germs for the gut by "rebooting" the digestive system".

anything that we have on our body that we don't need is left over from a time when we did need it, like the coccyx.

What medical school did you flunk out of?
Why didn't my tonsils keep me from getting infected with tonsillitis?

nico-t · 11-16-2010, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

@killerK, same for me too.. Ive randomly asked the girls ive slept with, or gfs about cut/uncut and pretty much all of them said an uncut dick is too nasty looking and they wouldnt fuck a guy who was uncut

where was this, high school?

these dumb chicks obviously never had an uncut dick upin their cunts and are very small minded: "I'm not familiar with it so it's gross, eeeeek!"

roly · 11-16-2010, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Centurion

What medical school did you flunk out of?
Why didn't my tonsils keep me from getting infected with tonsillitis?

what sort of argument is that? why didn't your immune system stop you from getting tonsillitis? that's like saying i got some grit in my eye, whats the point of having eyelids and eyelashes. The tonsils are there to fight bacteria and infections.

anything in or on our bodies is there for a useful reason or is left over from what was useful to us in the past. so if a foreskin wasn't physologically benficial we wouldn't have one, its called evolution.

desiredusername · 11-26-2010, 06:41 AM

Grate Shredders are for Superheroes:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1ycOp67eLoM

Klen · 11-26-2010, 07:11 AM

So,should i cut my dick or not

SmokeyTheBear · 11-26-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Circumcision is better for not getting STDs I thought?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15593753...th-mens_health

With all the sex going on in that part of the world, shouldn't they push for more circumcisions?

chopping off womens breasts at 18 would likely decrease breast cancer rates. chopping off your hands would almost certainly decrease hand cancer rates and all sorts of hand related injuries/maladies

SmokeyTheBear · 11-26-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

holy cow this made three pages?

not suprised, many a gfy thread about the big "c" has gone longer. It is one of those hot topic threads on gfy.

nikki99 · 11-26-2010, 10:42 AM

I smell smegma

SmokeyTheBear · 11-26-2010, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

I smell smegma

probably from your uncircumcised pussy lips, go wash them.

DateDoc · 05-19-2011, 05:29 AM

They got enough signatures and this will be on the ballot in November.

Rochard · 05-19-2011, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mozadek

Welcome to Obama's America.

What the fuck kind of stupid comment is that? Why do people think that local laws passed in one city are in any way related to the current President? San Fran recently tried to ban kids meals for fast food - was that because of Obama too?

wehateporn · 05-19-2011, 05:59 AM

It's about time the world moves on from these outdated barbaric practices. Most people know the real reason behind both male and female circumcision was to help a person stay in control so as they don't have kids of of wedlock and bring shame on the family.

If someone really wants this done, it's better to wait until they can make that decision for themselves, the same as with getting tattooed.

DamianJ · 05-19-2011, 06:03 AM

Wicked!

I love the same cunts saying the same shit cunty points on the same topics.

Can we just sticky the following topics once a week?

1) Foreskins Vs Butchered
2) Android Vs iOS
3) OSX Vs Windows
4) Paul Markham saying content is important and free porn is bad

It would sure save a lot of time.

Thanks for your consideration.

k0nr4d · 05-19-2011, 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by amateurbfs

Glad my dick got cut back in the 80's when it was ok to make penises look normal.

See its ironic you think that... You're born with foreskin, but you consider it not normal?

Fletch XXX · 05-19-2011, 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DateDoc

San Francisco residents may vote on a ballot measure next year that would outlaw circumcision.

The initiative, which requires 7,000 signatures before it can be added to next November's ballot, would make it a misdemeanor to "circumcise, excise, cut or mutilate the...genitals" of all minors, and would not make exceptions for religious reasons.

The decision to permanently remove a boy's foreskin should not be made by parents, says Lloyd Shofield, the proposal's author.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_783191.html

awesome we need to stop the religious from mutilating the children of this nation, people think children are *theirs* a mere possession, but fact is, the child has HUMAN RIGHTS and deserves to not be cut by some weirdo in the name of religion.

Ban the practice in america. the religious need to be controlled they are far out of line, especially practices like this.

the jewish bris and catholic circumcision is mutilation of another person in the name of religion, nothing more.

Fletch XXX · 05-19-2011, 06:58 AM

Leviticus 12:3:
On the eighth day, [the child's] foreskin shall be circumcised.

anyone doing this should be arrested, period.

"People can practice whatever religion they want, but your religious practice ends with someone else's body,"

Fletch XXX · 05-19-2011, 07:10 AM

heres a read about how this child had penis cut off (botched circumsision at hospital) was raised as girl then committed suicide.

ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS primitive shit like this is sick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11814300

DamianJ · 05-19-2011, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

See its ironic you think that.

That is not in the least part ironic.

Why do people struggle with that word so much? \

I blame Alanis.

RyuLion · 05-19-2011, 07:16 AM

gay/hippie town........

SmokeyTheBear · 05-19-2011, 08:32 AM

oh sheesh not this discussion again.

Studies done show circumcision lowers hiv rates. but it is not so simple. Real data doesn't show the same numbers.. actual hiv rates among cut vs noncut shows the exact opposite.

They big hiv tests were cutting adult males not just testing cut vs non cut from birth.. big difference. the whole test is skewed.. first off if you cut an adult males dick he probably wont be having sex for awhile thus avoiding sex that could contract hiv.. so of course you will have lower hiv rates among the cut men because they arent having sex..

marlboroack · 05-19-2011, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Can you say snausages??

Though I heard uncircumsized men have more intense orgasms?

Orgasms happen within, has nothing to do with foreskin. Less sensitive if your not cut as well.

lazycash · 05-19-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

oh sheesh not this discussion again.

Studies done show circumcision lowers hiv rates. but it is not so simple. Real data doesn't show the same numbers.. actual hiv rates among cut vs noncut shows the exact opposite.

They big hiv tests were cutting adult males not just testing cut vs non cut from birth.. big difference. the whole test is skewed.. first off if you cut an adult males dick he probably wont be having sex for awhile thus avoiding sex that could contract hiv.. so of course you will have lower hiv rates among the cut men because they arent having sex..

The African tests in high HIV areas that I've seen, didn't involve men newly circumcised, not sure why you would assume that.

wehateporn · 05-19-2011, 08:47 AM

Certainly puts it into perspective

Religions are out of date. They were set up as control mechanisms, now we have modern control mechanisms that have replaced them; which are quite crap too. Instead of lets go and spread religion, it's now let's go and fight terror (in those oil rich countries that always seem to be full or terrorists).

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

heres a read about how this child had penis cut off (botched circumsision at hospital) was raised as girl then committed suicide.

ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS primitive shit like this is sick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11814300

bronco67 · 05-19-2011, 08:49 AM

I'm really shocked this thread hasn't degenerated into gnarly uncut dick pictures.

lazycash · 05-19-2011, 08:50 AM

This won't pass, funny how San Francisco certainly wants the right to choose gay marriage and the right to choose an abortion, but doesn't want to give parents the right to choose circumcision.

tranza · 05-19-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mozadek

Welcome to Obama's America.

WTF? I didn't know Obama had power over state laws...

SmokeyTheBear · 05-19-2011, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

The African tests in high HIV areas that I've seen, didn't involve men newly circumcised, not sure why you would assume that.

i didn't assume it , it was in the world health organization facts about the latest hiv studies.

testing any other way would be highly suspect.. adult aged males who are circumcised already would be in an entirely different social/religious structure as it is not a normal thing.

testing from birth would require both subjects to be from a similar religious/social background

SmokeyTheBear · 05-19-2011, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

kind of a silly stat.. you could probably show the same chart for female circumcision .

if 2 million men had their hands chopped off you would prevent

8000 broken arms
5000 broken fingers
200 cases of hand cancer
500 cases of finger cancer
9000 cases of arthritis
8000 cases of carpal tunnel
etc etc

stats are made up but you get the idea..

sperbonzo · 05-19-2011, 09:18 AM

so let me get this straight... The government SHOULD get involved to save baby's from a small operation, but they should NOT get involved when someone decides to kill a perfectly viable 26 week child that has their whole life ahead of them.

Ok. Got it!

.

.

Fletch XXX · 05-19-2011, 09:20 AM

this argument has NOTHING TO DO WITH HIV, its about fundamental human rights.

You do not have the right to tattoo your child, nor do you have the right to alter their body surgically.

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""People can practice whatever religion they want, but your religious practice ends with someone else's body,"

It's a man's body and...his body doesn't belong to his culture, his government, his religion or even his parents. It's his decision."

This is spelled out clearly that this is about the childs right to decide and his inherent rights to be protected from mutiliation. Children are protected from abuse from parents, children are born with RIGHTS unto and SEPARATE from the parents. Think people.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/1..._n_783191.html

_Richard_ · 05-19-2011, 09:27 AM

bump for child mutilation

Fletch XXX · 05-19-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

bump for child mutilation

the funny thing about this all is, people think female circumcision is horrible yet doing it to males is perfectly fine.

Its all primitive rituals based on biblical jargon.

The people who do this have serious issues and have already denied their child the right to choose their own path in life.

Anyone who supports male circumcision supports female circumcision and its all the same shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutting

sick fucks, all of them.

_Richard_ · 05-19-2011, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

the funny thing about this all is, people think female circumcision is horrible yet doing it to males is perfectly fine.

Its all primitive rituals based on biblical jargon.

The people who do this have serious issues and have already denied their child the right to choose their own path in life.

Anyone who supports male circumcision supports female circumcision and its all the same shit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutting

sick fucks, all of them.

know those man conversations, fuelled by beer and inhibition?

you know what happens when the awkward conversation comes out when they bitch about 'not getting off when their girls give em head'?

i call them gay and then look at the floor.

i know what the problem is, they probably don't. i know they're probably circumcised and probably not gay.

SmokeyTheBear · 05-19-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

so let me get this straight... The government SHOULD get involved to save baby's from a small operation, but they should NOT get involved when someone decides to kill a perfectly viable 26 week child that has their whole life ahead of them.

Ok. Got it!

.

.

fetus != baby

would imagine the though process is that while the fetus is inside the mother , the mother makes the choice because the fetus is part of her.. once the fetus is born , it is now its own individual.

sperbonzo · 05-19-2011, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear

fetus != baby

would imagine the though process is that while the fetus is inside the mother , the mother makes the choice because the fetus is part of her.. once the fetus is born , it is now its own individual.

That thought always worked for me until I started meeting children that my wife works with that were born VERY premature, are now 6 years old, and realize that they could have been legally aborted at the point when they were actually delivered prematurely, and thereby been deprived of their chance at life. Just because they could have been called a "fetus", I realized, did not make them any less human beings with rights. I think that doesn't apply in the first trimester, but after that, I think you're killing a kid.

So I find it interesting that in a City that is all for legal late term abortion, they are going to get into this issue.

In fact, most curcumsicion is done within the first week, so I guess if the child is delivered late, and they do the operation in the womb, then THAT would be ok, since it doesn't have rights.

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Fletch XXX · 05-19-2011, 09:51 AM

k now lets get back to facts not hating on San Franciso lol

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The constitutional issues of a ban promise to be even more controversial. Jews, of course, can argue that God?s covenant with Abraham requires them to circumcise their boys, thus making the practice a matter of religious freedom.

But Supreme Court precedent is mixed. Many religious practices (such as polygamy, once practised by Mormons) are clearly illegal. In a 1944 case concerning a Jehovah?s Witness who had custody over a nine-year-old girl, the court stipulated that ?parents may be free to become martyrs themselves. But it does not follow they are free?to make martyrs of their children before they have reached the age of full and legal discretion.?

http://www.economist.com/node/187128...12852&fsrc=rss

I sooo hope eventually we see a nationwide ban on this religious practice. They have mutilated enough children in the name of their books.

People seem to forget we at one time did female circumsisions in this country and it was too banned, males will be next.

You wanna do that stuff>? Israel will more than welcome you, as will the Vatican - fucking sickos.

Just Alex · 05-19-2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

This won't pass, funny how San Francisco certainly wants the right to choose gay marriage and the right to choose an abortion, but doesn't want to give parents the right to choose circumcision.

BS numbers. I talked about this issue with old school doctor, who is jewish btw, and he said it makes no difference.

DateDoc · 05-19-2011, 01:26 PM

This is the photo used in the CBS article on the circumcision ban!

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...-10391704.html

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Leviticus 12:3: On the eighth day, [the child's] foreskin shall be circumcised. anyone doing this should be arrested, period. "People can practice whatever religion they want, but your religious practice ends with someone else's body," __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 05-19-2011 at 07:01 AM..

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Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	heres a read about how this child had penis cut off (botched circumsision at hospital) was raised as girl then committed suicide. ANYONE WHO SUPPORTS primitive shit like this is sick. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-11814300 __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me Last edited by Fletch XXX; 05-19-2011 at 07:12 AM..

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