Paul Markham

= we should give up fighting copyright infringement.

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DamianJ

Yes. It is a waste of time and money.

Jack Sparrow

What a useless waste of fucking time discussion this is.

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bjlover

I dont believe banning drugs stops people taking them

does that make me a drug dealer



fucking hell their are some seriously stupid people around

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bjlover

I can see now why you have been in this business 30 years and you are still broke


you are just not very bright are you

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fatfoo

Less theft is better.

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marketsmart

for the record, i support piracy.....


but only the raping and pillaging part, not the stealing of dirty sex videos on the internets...




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Agent 488

slutboat, nanobot and paul markham .... watch out the gfy brain trust strong in here.

ottopottomouse

'Piracy' in thread titles seems to attract idiots like flies to shit.

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DamianJ

Robbie hasn't posted here.



Yet.

PAR

Has anyone bothered to ask ..

Damian,
You grey haired rubber faced Mac loving English metro with an avatar that looks like a Indian telecom worker from India "Hello At&t how may I help you"... LOL

In light of your resent and past negative view on the current possible success of fighting illegal content use.

What do you see as the best alternative when doing nothing will result in the future use of content that is already out there.?

Slutboat

an avatar that looks like a Indian telecom worker from India "Hello At&t how may I help you"

hahahahahahahahahahaha

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PornMD

Just because you're a fucking dumbass and don't know how to comprehend plain English doesn't mean he's pro-piracy.

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gideongallery

so being smart enought that realizing a bill so unconstitutionally free speech crushing isn't going to really survive eff court challenge is some how pro piracy.

i mentioned once they should put a counter clause that says if you make such a complaint and the court ultimately rule that the operation is fair use, your copyrights and all future copyright should be revoked and all your shit should be put in the public domain.

and robbie and his follower jumped down my throat arguing that was abusive.

considering the effect of you wrongfully classifying fair use as infringement is that a legitimate business was fucked out of existance, that should be clearly considered balanced.

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stocktrader23

Nobody wants to hear it. Aside from a few sites that will continue to justify their monthly fees things are going to move to micropayments, lower monthly cost access points, 1 off single year memberships and a fundamental shift in how adult webmasters generate income. What is 'outside of the box' today will be the norm in the near future.

Above all else, adult webmasters are going to have to figure out how to provide VALUE to their customers. Even $10 per month for 200 vids is too much when $0 per month gets you access to thousands. Even if all pirates died today the tubes would produce their own content and everything would remain the same otherwise.

1999 traffic and sales on the recurring membership of shit websites will not return ever.

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DVTimes

I like chips.

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ArsewithClass

If you think his few reviews on his webpage is a review site, sorry youre mistaken... He doesnt take anything seriously & bullshits about the reviews.

A mentalist

Thank god its not a close up of her horrible un even tits & fucked up nipple... like, what the fuck happened there?

I cant believe 3ways are trying to make money out of a model with a deformed tit?

Nothing wrong with deformed people, but keep them to the right wesites

I reckon so too! He always says sweety or love to me... I havent got any phobia against gays, but please, dont call me a sweety.. the tosser

Oh fuck off bum licking Damian... he rips it into you & everyone like a knob & yet justifies anything that is against the business.

He used my picture once to promote his own blog & said he was allowed as he only used 10% of it...

This guy is not even in the business. He helps promote a cpl of adult businesses by adding a load of spew to forums & showing their pics or links!

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Paul Markham

I don't see much of a future for most people in this business. They don't have the ability to adapt and that means extinction. Affiliates are in the main way too expensive for the future and unless they have masses of traffic they can earn a few bucks from they're not going to be able to support themselves with the payment plans left.

Commission on micropayments that convert at 1-1,000 or worse will simply not be a viable option for most. And the only way to get traffic will be to have Tubes like pornhub which won't convert anything like that over all.

Sponsors will also start to drop out of the game. Big ones will remain by changing their payment plans. Again the money they earn will be reduced.

Surfers will also increasingly learn that the odds of getting laid off a dating site is low to none. Penis pills don't work and web cams will move to a model that doesn't need to support massive affiliate payments. Take that out of the price and the cost per minute plummets.

It's all very well having all the traffic. BUT IF IT'S TRAFFIC THAT WON'T SPEND IT'S COSTING MONEY.

How this will effect Tubes and their ability to pay the hosting costs to serve the traffic with free videos is the unknown element. Will they be able to afford the hosting on paid ads that don't work?

You need people to spend money to support the free content. So who knows what's to come. Not talking 2011, more like 2015.

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DWB

Because of the pro-piracy clowns on GFY, I have unprotected my content, stopped sending DMCAs and simply have given up. All hope is lost. I'm leaving adult.

Thanks for the wake up call.

nico-t

you are one to talk, have you checked the dirty ass skanks on your site? I wouldnt fuck them if id get paid, they are gross and ugly as fuck. I take a crazy hot chick with a little flaw on one nipple over any of the gross whores on your site.

stocktrader23

Micropayments would work fine with the affiliate model but a couple of things have to happen.

1) They have to be true micropayments. I can watch a $20 DVD for $1 at Redbox, I'm not paying $8 for a clip of two lesbians fucking. Yes, I know you can get $8 for ultra niche shit but a tube can spend a pittance on content and get the same thing, or just steal it.

2) There needs to be ONE main gateway. Not 20, not even 2. This needs to be the gateway to paying for all vendors accepting micropayments on the web. Nobody wants to dump $20 in an account for every site out there so it has to be somewhere they can dump $20 but choose content from every site out there. All content needs to be on the site, well organized (not like most adult sites) and clean. No more black backgrounds and shitty banners everywhere.

Mark my words, the FIRST company to get micropayment billing done correctly will become extraordinarily wealthy.

3) The micropayment gateway needs to handle all affiliates for micropayment options, no signing up to 4000 sponsors to sell $1 videos. This would be like a CPA network in mainstream where once you sign up you can promote any video on the site. If you aren't familiar with CPA networks you need to look them up, it's how the affiliate model should be handled and is by industries that aren't so God damned worried about everyone stealing their affiliates.

4) Surfers need the option of purchasing one video at a time or loading funds. A discount could be given to those depositing blocks of money to their account but you can't make the single videos $5 each and $1 each if you preload $20. The minimum load needs to be reasonable as well, $10 is probably best, $20 would work. Bigger discounts could be given for bigger packages.

5) Affiliates needs to be paid on all referrals for LIFE. If you send someone to a single video and they purchase it for $1 you should also be paid when they come back and deposit $50 to their account. This commission should be 50%, no ifs ands or buts.

There are so many damn options with a system like this that it's ridiculous. You are taking the purchase down to the pure impulse buy level but still providing excellent value for those that come back for more.

Affiliates could promote a single video, whatever collection of videos they choose or the entire damn program.

An API could be made to easily allow affiliates to pull whatever content they want into their websites, blogs, etc.

People all over the world could afford to pay for porn. Mobile billing and other methods used to get money out of the poorer parts of the world would be accepted.

Every video provided by a paysite could be used to upsell that paysite at a REASONABLE monthly fee.

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Watch this full video for only $1.00!

Did you enjoy this video? Browse for more or get unlimited access to the Only Teens video library for only $9.95 per month!

Of course, affiliates should be paid for those sales as well.

THE QUESTION IS, WHICH SPONSORS WILL BE THE FIRST TO ALLOW THEIR ENTIRE CONTENT LIBRARY TO BE SOLD ONE VIDEO AT A TIME?

This is the future, bookmark it and call me in 5 years.

Peace.

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DVTimes

i am sure people much rather promote your siytes were you pimp your wife for unprotected sex with strangers.

http://www.adultwork.com/ViewProfile...3D&NavUserID95

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DVTimes

this is one of your top models?????????????

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Paul Markham

I see what your saying. The downside of giving one video at a time is if the surfer didn't like that one, he's lost and feels cheated. Giving him a better deal has a better chance of keeping him buying.

Could work for one video at a time or say a few videos at a time. Like network of small sites, say 100 sites like www.5dollarsporn.com except with a more attractive name. Giving the surfer access to a handful of videos and the possibility of upselling to a large site.

The option would be there for the surfer to buy one site at a time or more at a discount.

Affiliates wound send traffic to one main site or the whole group. And get paid for a lifetime of the member re-buying in the network of sites.

Why didn't I think of that.

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ottopottomouse

Great idea. Why don't you try it?

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bjlover

You really are shockingly stupid


are you seriously not ashamed about how stupid you are?

wow, so very very very stupid

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Paul Markham

Was that a joke?

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ottopottomouse

Was your post not one?

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bjlover

wow

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georgeyw

That's hilarious coming from someone who goes hammer and tongs after a certain person in the most personal of ways - creating pages on different social networks just to be a prick - hilarious stuff.

@ OP - I am of similar thoughts to Damian when it comes to piracy - ie it will never be stamped out completely. However I do think that bringing in new laws will go along way towards reducing piracy.

It's impossible to stop anything completely, however laws do help curb behaviour - that is a fact.

CaptainHowdy

I wouldn't steal that...

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DamianJ

You wish I was gay so I would give you a rusty trombone, you sexy little slut.

And honestly, I believe the alternative is to spend the time, money and effort of trying to stop something unstoppable into making your site better. You will make more money by a/b testing all your landers that you will sending out DMCAs.

You coming to vegas, are ya, are ya, are ya?

Paul Markham

What we need Damian is a landing page that looks like a forum. But it's got no content on it until the surfer sends his email. Then he will gain trust in the site by posting on the forum. But the forum is really a fake forum.

And the initial aim is to sell a membership.

On a landing page with no pictures or videos.

Tell everyone your brilliant marketing strategy in Vegas.

You said you had a site planning to test this brilliant idea. Have you got a link or shall I remind you of it in the future?

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Slutboat

Why are you going to Vegas Damian? Oh yea - so you can get your pic taken with porn girls...

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DamianJ

It's not done yet. I'll let you know when it is, it's low down the queue, gotta get the affiliate site live first.

But if you want to take the piss out of the idea, how about you man up and put your money where you mouth is? Being a keyboard warrior is easy. Are you man enough to actually DO something?

I hereby challenge you to a landing page contest.

Using your content.

So, you make a lander, I make a lander, we put them on google website optimizer to split test and the loser donates a grand to the charity of the winner's choice.

Or will you ignore this like you did on the other forum I called you out because you know I will win?

DamianJ

Why are you not going to Vegas, Slutboat?

Because your Mom won't let you?
Because you can't afford it?

Come on, I'd love to meet you. I will cover your flight and you can bunk with me. I will even write to your Mother and say it is OK for you to leave her garage and that I will look after you.

Do you snore?

Paul Markham

I'm retired and our sites will stay as they are except for us adding content already shot. The sites aren't retired. Eva still looks after them.

But as you bring up sites let's look at what you have and what I have.

www.paulmarkham.com
www.bargainbasementcontent.com

www.paulmarkhamteens.com
www.astral-blue.com

We own 90% of the content on those sites and still earn money from them.

Against yours and what you own.

www.pornbeer.com
www.adultmarketing.co.uk
www.damianjennings.com Why is it down sweetheart?
http://www.magician-directory.com/Ma...ast-Sussex.htm down the page a bit.



How's the magic going Sweetheart.

I guess you lose. Just love taking the piss out of you.

Was the post calling me out the one that was deleted?

Or was it the one with you insulting Eva and lying about me having cancer?

There are few photos of him with porn girls. Not sure if that's Damian's decision or the girls.

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CunningStunt

Lmfao. Are you free for some copy writing work? I always wondered why someone would want to make it look like they worked at a McDonald's drive through.

CunningStunt

That's ownage right there, glad I logged in today, priceless

topnotch, standup guy

Are you ever going to stop crying?

What's the matter crybaby, Eric hasn't answered any of your PM's yet.

Pathetic.
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Slutboat

ok enough guys - let this thread die.

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Fine thanks love, lots of bookings for Christmas. Why do you ask?

Lol. Yes. Doing magic and getting paid to do it is REALLY embarrassing.

Srsly, why do you think the fact I do magic would embarrass me? You are odd.

No, you just ignored it, like a coward. There are two threads about it now. It's OK you are too scared to reply though.

DamianJ

I thought ownage was when someone owned someone?

All Paul did is post a link to a magic directory that is linking to my magic site.

I do magic. I get paid to do magic.

Can you explain how this is owning me?

I will paypal you 10 whole dollars if you can.

KTHXBYE!

DamianJ

So, do you want me to pay for your flight to Vegas then?

I really want to meet you.

Slutboat

Damian.....dude....let this thread say good night - I would never have written it had I know people were going to lay you to waste like this, I feel bad man... just step away and let this shit go.

Have fun in vegas and don't try to meet anyone you don't get along with - get an 8 ball and hit the Hard Rock for Blackjack but don't play anything else there - hit the Spearmint Rhino on South Highland Drive at 3 AM - then at 5 grab a hooker off the casino floor of Ballys and bust a nut or two but don't go lookin for any old codgers to beat up.

just let this shit go bye bye you're not doin yourself any favors here.

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PS: if you met me you would probably like me and I'd probably end up gettin your ass laid.

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