dFaWebmaster Ripped Me Off

[DatingGold]

Just a friendly warning not to deal with this guy.

Sold me something and never delivered. Contacted him and he went offline. LOL..

asshole

[iTouch!]

what were you buying


and good post

bump

have a good weekend

[Denny]

... what a suprise...

[bloggerz]

What was the deal about ?

[dFaWebmaster]

I don't fully understand what you are saying DatingGold, if you have business with me that are PENDING let me know it. And I am not trying to ripp off anyone Send the details below for us to check what kind of business we had on you

[Diomed]

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

I don't fully understand what you are saying DatingGold, if you have business with me that are PENDING let me know it. And I am not trying to ripp off anyone Send the details below for us to check what kind of business we had on you

Not good business.

[Robocrop]

Not very specified post either.

Post the proof or dont assume someone rips you off.

[Jack Sparrow]

I think i gave some hints long time ago.

[HorseShit]

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

I don't fully understand what you are saying DatingGold, if you have business with me that are PENDING let me know it. And I am not trying to ripp off anyone Send the details below for us to check what kind of business we had on you

Don't act like you have multiple people working for you fucking broke loser.

You know damn well of any retarded business yourself conducted, now fuck off.

[dFaWebmaster]

send me a proof that I rip you & don't say I am offline, I am working almost ONLINE ready to reply FAQs

[Jack Sparrow]

You tried to sell me hardlinks on domains that where dropped and didnt have adult sites on them before because of the PR they still had.

I told you, and you went crazy with the namecalling.

Im sure if i gather up the info on those domains, i can give you some proof. But to be honest its not even worth it.

I advise everyone to check the hardlinks on whatever domains your selling.

[Robocrop]

I didnt protect him in any way tho but the last time people are doing bad biz and calling others scammers. But yea this guy isnt high on my list anyway.

It's easy to seperate morons from good biz people. Just check their history ;)

[Jdoughs]

Selling links on a domain that dropped is not scamming.

And I will tell you from a SEO standpoint and long term receiver of SEO traffic that there is nothing wrong with dropped domains, atleast you cannot value them by simply seeing if they dropped or not, many other factors.

Just try to have a little bit of a clue when calling someone out.

Frisky, if anything, you trying to sell spots on your shitty tube and claiming to be 'something huge' is much more scammy then selling valid links, on a dropped domain.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Selling links on a domain that dropped is not scamming.

And I will tell you from a SEO standpoint and long term receiver of SEO traffic that there is nothing wrong with dropped domains, atleast you cannot value them by simply seeing if they dropped or not, many other factors.

Just try to have a little bit of a clue when calling someone out.

Frisky, if anything, you trying to sell spots on your shitty tube and claiming to be 'something huge' is much more scammy then selling valid links, on a dropped domain.

You should READ a little better before calling me out.
I didnt say he is a scammer, i stated what he does, and i have proof of that.

Everybody can judge for themselfs if selling 1yr hardlinks on dropped domains that have pr from back when they where NON adult sites without telling a possible buyer is ok or not. Your the seo guru right?

Now, can you back your statement up that me selling adspots on a tube where people get to check google analytics stats before buying anything is scamming? (Considering your saying "much more scammy").

Because if not, i would not spread those words around so easily, thanks.

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Everybody can judge for themselfs if selling 1yr hardlinks on dropped domains that have pr from back when they where NON adult sites without telling a possible buyer is ok or not. Your the seo guru right?

No, a Guru is someone with great knowledge or insight into a certain field, and then shares that information of teaches others how to use it. To teach or to guide. I don't teach, I don't share, or guide.

And you are right, people can judge for themselves, but that's kind of hard if you're in here busting his balls without knowing what you're talking about.

You do not know if dropped domain links are worthless, and you don't know how to determine if they are. If you did you wouldn't have posted. So lay off the bandwagon, and try not to trash someone when you obviously don't really understand what is happening, how its happening or why.

For the record, I wouldnt use the shitty links if I was paid, but atleast I know why, not because 'I heard' that dropped domains are no good.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

No, a Guru is someone with great knowledge or insight into a certain field, and then shares that information of teaches others how to use it. To teach or to guide. I don't teach, I don't share, or guide.

And you are right, people can judge for themselves, but that's kind of hard if you're in here busting his balls without knowing what you're talking about.

You do not know if dropped domain links are worthless, and you don't know how to determine if they are. If you did you wouldn't have posted. So lay off the bandwagon, and try not to trash someone when you obviously don't really understand what is happening, how its happening or why.

For the record, I wouldnt use the shitty links if I was paid, but atleast I know why, not because 'I heard' that dropped domains are no good.

Your not only stating im a scammer, but also contradict yourself a bit there.
You think only YOU can know this, but I cannot?
Im fucking glad you know what your talking about when talking about me or my projects. Been there done that "bro". Its not a HUGE secret because you dont share or teach anything.

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Frisky, if anything, you trying to sell spots on your shitty tube and claiming to be 'something huge' is much more scammy then selling valid links, on a dropped domain.

God damn I hope there's some proof for this, I'd hate for anything to happen...

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

For the record, I wouldnt use the shitty links if I was paid, but atleast I know why, not because 'I heard' that dropped domains are no good.

So wait... Let me get this straight, you say frisky is a bandwagon jumper and said the links are complete crap because, and I quote "He does not know if dropped domain links are worthless". Yet you know 100% that they are in fact, worthless...

So isn't that like saying "You're just saying Cat in the Hat is wearing a hat, because everyone else is, but I really know... he is actually wearing a hat!".

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Killswitch

God damn I hope there's some proof for this, I'd hate for anything to happen...



So wait... Let me get this straight, you say frisky is a bandwagon jumper and said the links are complete crap because, and I quote "He does not know if dropped domain links are worthless". Yet you know 100% that they are in fact, worthless...

So isn't that like saying "You're just saying Cat in the Hat is wearing a hat, because everyone else is, but I really know... he is actually wearing a hat!".

Well.. you said it better then i could.
I will forgive him calling me a "scammy", its all good. Just sad he doesnt have a clue then attacks me, and then say the exact same thing i said.

Whatever. Lets trust him and his seo skills. Cough.

[LeRoy]

We bought some links from him too. Everything went fine.

Stand up guy IMO

[Jdoughs]

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Well.. you said it better then i could.
I will forgive him calling me a "scammy", its all good. Just sad he doesnt have a clue then attacks me, and then say the exact same thing i said.

Whatever. Lets trust him and his seo skills. Cough.

Exactly what I said was this "selling links on a dropped domain isn't scamming", and to imply that they are worthless because the site was dropped isn't smart either.

Then I said that its not any more "scammy" then trying to push ads on an overhyped tube site, sure targeted at you, because lets face it, you've been spamming the piss out of it (good for you, not knocking it). But if I didn't think "A" was scamming and said "B" isn't any more scammy, how is that saying I called "B" a scammer.

I wouldn't buy his links because HE IS A LINK SELLER and every 'tagged' link buyer has links across his stuff. Not because they were dropped domains, or because he reg'd them with existing PR, just because they (generally) aren't the type of link I'd want.

If you want to turn this into a pissing match about who knows what about dropped domains and search engines and how they rank. Probably picked the wrong dude to argue about it with, I have a few great listings with shitty old dropped domains, and my serps stay. I'm not here to brag or push my theories, I just don't like misinformation about the engines from people who don't know.

I wouldn't try to tell you how to build a quick traffic source and retain it, viralize it, and use other mediums to build traffic like you have on your site, its just not what I do. But I do have a decent idea about generating search traffic, and they've kept me fed for the last 5 or so years.

[Jack Sparrow]

i'll say it again: selling yearly hardlinks on dropped domains which are turned into adult that where not adult before, without telling a potential buyer, is something i think is very wrong, but i didnt even call him a scammer, i told everyone to check and make a judgement themself.

For the rest of it, we can discuss for hours, and still we wouldnt agree. My point for buzzing you in icq is because you implied im a scamming spammer that tries to sell ads on a tube that isnt good enough for it.

If that was a mistake, or some poor choice of words to make a point, its all good.
But it didnt look like that.

[Denny]

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Are they on domains that recently expired and had nonadultsites on them?
Just asking so I don't waste time again.

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

nope, they are not, these sites are non-dropped and links are available offer, long years adult sites, stays the pr for highest backlinks

Maybe he isn't a scammer, but he is a liar for sure

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Denny

Maybe he isn't a scammer, but he is a liar for sure

I rest my case and leave the defense over to jdoughs.

[Jdoughs]

I only commented on the 'dropped domain links' issue MrFrisky, spin it however you want but keep me out of your drama.

And above nobody mentioned he was misleading or lying in his sales, not until after. But it's irrelevant to what I was saying about the link power or lack of with such domains. And not once was I defending the seller in question.

[wizzart]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

Selling links on a domain that dropped is not scamming.

And I will tell you from a SEO standpoint and long term receiver of SEO traffic that there is nothing wrong with dropped domains, atleast you cannot value them by simply seeing if they dropped or not, many other factors.

This is 100% true!


but when someone remove links after one month that you pay for one year, that is scam!

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Jdoughs

I only commented on the 'dropped domain links' issue MrFrisky, spin it however you want but keep me out of your drama.

And above nobody mentioned he was misleading or lying in his sales, not until after. But it's irrelevant to what I was saying about the link power or lack of with such domains. And not once was I defending the seller in question.

You should have read what i was saying, then comment and imply things as "not more scammy then selling adspots on a tube your spamming". Would have saved you this drama.

I mentioned it in a way that was pretty decent i think, if you couldnt see it, your loss.

Let's just rest this case

MrFrisky is king of tubes
Jdoughs is king of SEO
dFaWebmaster is king of link sales
Killswitch is king of you all

[Jack Sparrow]

You wanted to say queen in the last one right

Pshawwww

[dFaWebmaster]

Let me clarify all this things, I don't want everyone each arguing

1) I am always OPEN for good conversations to everyone as 'Killswitch' says 'dFaWebmaster is king of link sales'. No matter what it is, I try to be honest and humble about working people around me daily. So I am saying there if I MISSED something leave a message/email/contact me to get the request done. Cause I cannot attend all for hundred mails daily, messages, others.
2) Denny commented me 'Maybe he isn't a scammer, but he is a liar for sure', man I am selling links with DROPPED, NON-DROPPED, ETC domains/sites lists. So don't say I am working only with 1 recipe only.
3) If I am hiding/go contacts OFFLINE I will not post threads here and leave this opened issues, Nevertheless I am not a RIPPER/SCAMMERS/LIAR, I do the business with good relationships and not forcing people to work with me, I fully understand that I cannot appreciate all people requesting/doing business deals.
4) DatingGold --> I always giving a clarifications and have me contact as I said to you to send me email/contacts what you are trying to imposed. I try to make everything in good flow for many people emailing me daily I need to attend everything with the help of my colleauges.
5) Let me clarify about 'The Link Removed', if your site(s) imposed on the network has a viral/trojans attacks it will automatically DISABLED even you buy the links, so be aware, its stated on the contracts of the site network.
6) Above all, everyone knows me so I am not lying everybody here especially gfy network. To all who buy on my networkz, if you have questions either I am always OPEN for ANSWERS.

[DatingGold]

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

Let me clarify all this things, I don't want everyone each arguing

1) I am always OPEN for good conversations to everyone as 'Killswitch' says 'dFaWebmaster is king of link sales'. No matter what it is, I try to be honest and humble about working people around me daily. So I am saying there if I MISSED something leave a message/email/contact me to get the request done. Cause I cannot attend all for hundred mails daily, messages, others.
2) Denny commented me 'Maybe he isn't a scammer, but he is a liar for sure', man I am selling links with DROPPED, NON-DROPPED, ETC domains/sites lists. So don't say I am working only with 1 recipe only.
3) If I am hiding/go contacts OFFLINE I will not post threads here and leave this opened issues, Nevertheless I am not a RIPPER/SCAMMERS/LIAR, I do the business with good relationships and not forcing people to work with me, I fully understand that I cannot appreciate all people requesting/doing business deals.
4) DatingGold --> I always giving a clarifications and have me contact as I said to you to send me email/contacts what you are trying to imposed. I try to make everything in good flow for many people emailing me daily I need to attend everything with the help of my colleauges.
5) Let me clarify about 'The Link Removed', if your site(s) imposed on the network has a viral/trojans attacks it will automatically DISABLED even you buy the links, so be aware, its stated on the contracts of the site network.
6) Above all, everyone knows me so I am not lying everybody here especially gfy network. To all who buy on my networkz, if you have questions either I am always OPEN for ANSWERS.

I did contact you last night on ICQ. I explained the problem to you. You were well aware and then you quit responding.

You are not online right now.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

Let me clarify all this things, I don't want everyone each arguing

1) I am always OPEN for good conversations to everyone as 'Killswitch' says 'dFaWebmaster is king of link sales'. No matter what it is, I try to be honest and humble about working people around me daily. So I am saying there if I MISSED something leave a message/email/contact me to get the request done. Cause I cannot attend all for hundred mails daily, messages, others.
2) Denny commented me 'Maybe he isn't a scammer, but he is a liar for sure', man I am selling links with DROPPED, NON-DROPPED, ETC domains/sites lists. So don't say I am working only with 1 recipe only.
3) If I am hiding/go contacts OFFLINE I will not post threads here and leave this opened issues, Nevertheless I am not a RIPPER/SCAMMERS/LIAR, I do the business with good relationships and not forcing people to work with me, I fully understand that I cannot appreciate all people requesting/doing business deals.
4) DatingGold --> I always giving a clarifications and have me contact as I said to you to send me email/contacts what you are trying to imposed. I try to make everything in good flow for many people emailing me daily I need to attend everything with the help of my colleauges.
5) Let me clarify about 'The Link Removed', if your site(s) imposed on the network has a viral/trojans attacks it will automatically DISABLED even you buy the links, so be aware, its stated on the contracts of the site network.
6) Above all, everyone knows me so I am not lying everybody here especially gfy network. To all who buy on my networkz, if you have questions either I am always OPEN for ANSWERS.

I didnt understand a word you said, but it sounds like your trying to get out of it.

[dFaWebmaster]

Originally Posted by DatingGold

I did contact you last night on ICQ. I explained the problem to you. You were well aware and then you quit responding.

You are not online right now.

I am waiting you to respond a couple of hours to respond on my contact but you JUST SAID 'HEY'

XXXX (8:30 AM):
hey

WE HAVE DIFFERENT TIME ZONE... SO I cannot cath you up...leave email
whats the explaination you are saying? please email it, much better so we can make it through now...

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

I didnt understand a word you said, but it sounds like your trying to get out of it.

hmmp, seems I am fixing all problems but you are making it to be big issue. Man I haven't got a deal with you so please give a chance everyone to hear it. Maybe you cannot understand everything cause you are not reading it in good ways. Seems you are keeping on all your sides

To all have giving me good comments, thanks everyone for defending me. I am not working for destroying everyones reputations, I need also to be balance.

[fris]

never buy links

[dFaWebmaster]

Originally Posted by fris

never buy links

yes that's a good recommendation, if you do not want links 'never buy it' else you must have to know the one(s) you are buying

[GAMEFINEST]

what the problem buddy

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

I am waiting you to respond a couple of hours to respond on my contact but you JUST SAID 'HEY'

XXXX (8:30 AM):
hey

WE HAVE DIFFERENT TIME ZONE... SO I cannot cath you up...leave email
whats the explaination you are saying? please email it, much better so we can make it through now...



hmmp, seems I am fixing all problems but you are making it to be big issue. Man I haven't got a deal with you so please give a chance everyone to hear it. Maybe you cannot understand everything cause you are not reading it in good ways. Seems you are keeping on all your sides

To all have giving me good comments, thanks everyone for defending me. I am not working for destroying everyones reputations, I need also to be balance.

Well you didnt respond or read me very well when i asked you about it on icq LONG before this thread was opend did you. Instead, you went crazy with the namecalling. And even THEN i didnt go out shouting what i thought of how you run your biz.

Now you got burned, and im to blame for it?

[iTouch!]

have a good weekend bump

[DatingGold]

This has been resolved.

[dFaWebmaster]

Originally Posted by DatingGold

This has been resolved.

thanks for replying on this thread you open DatingGold, somehow people now will understand why you buy 2 links and you want to change 1 link on it to another one. You know the rules about buying links, even other sellers can also disagree of what you have done. Taking people as ripping you off is not good idea.

SEE STATEMENTS HISTORY:
ME(4:23 AM):
Hi Dating Gold, buddy. How are you?

ME(4:24 AM):
I replied on the email about/regarding links we deal
I see my icq history we only do deals for your 2 links and this last link you sended is not included then

Dating Gold (4:24 AM):
hi

Dating Gold (4:25 AM):
i bought two links from you on these urls

ME(4:25 AM):
yes

ME(4:26 AM):
Site 1 -> www.protect_the_link1 (bought)
Site 2 -> www.protect_the_link2 (bought)
Site 3 -> www.new_link_not_included (no deal)
you see it? check you icq please history

Dating Gold (4:26 AM):
right I wanted to update www.protect_the_link2 to go to www.new_link_not_included
but I dont even seen them on your sites

ME(4:27 AM):
what do you mean by update?
its a separate link

Dating Gold (4:27 AM):
instead of going to www.protect_the_link2 have it go to www.new_link_not_included

ME(4:28 AM):
man, have you review the rules in buying links?

ME(4:29 AM):
www.new_link_not_included is different from www.protect_the_link2

Dating Gold (4:29 AM):
i wanted to change the asian to the review one, if I cant its not a big deal

ME(4:29 AM):
it's not the same links, else you cannot find that simple quotes beside switching link

ME(4:30 AM):
ok great, not a big deal @ all
thanks for understanding, we cannot do it
besides its separate links

Dating Gold (4:31 AM):
ok but are my links even up?

ME(4:31 AM):
thank you and I reply all your icq

Dating Gold (4:31 AM):
www.site_promoting_00

ME(4:31 AM):
let me check

Dating Gold (4:31 AM):
i see at the bottom

ME(4:31 AM):
yes it is

ME(4:34 AM):
ok so these case is closed
alright?
I need to re-charge back the posts you made to gfy.com

ME (4:35 AM):
we haven't have a good understanding about the deal but its alright now.
thanks for the good conversation buddy

ME (4:36 AM):
would you mind to change back your statement there of ripping you off

ME (4:37 AM):
or I will just closed the case for this?

[Jack Sparrow]

Aha..

Tell me can i see these rules somewhere?
Do you show them before selling a link?
Do you tell people if they are going to be on recently dropped domains that had no adult sites on them before being dropped?

[dFaWebmaster]

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

Aha..

Tell me can i see these rules somewhere?
Do you show them before selling a link?
Do you tell people if they are going to be on recently dropped domains that had no adult sites on them before being dropped?

hey, you have 2 eyes right used it to read... I don't have time arguing to just like you who is full of heartaches...

yes I show it to them, and???

yes I am telling them but not at all especially to like you, bastard and shit...

[Denny]

too funny

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by dFaWebmaster

hey, you have 2 eyes right used it to read... I don't have time arguing to just like you who is full of heartaches...

yes I show it to them, and???

yes I am telling them but not at all especially to like you, bastard and shit...

Originally Posted by Denny

too funny

Agreed

[stefx]

I`ve bought links from dFaWebmaster and never had any problems with him. Good and fast service for me.

[Jack Sparrow]

Good i guess its all gold shining in this thread then..

Sigh

[TMAC]

Originally Posted by mrfrisky

i'll say it again: selling yearly hardlinks on dropped domains which are turned into adult that where not adult before, without telling a potential buyer, is something i think is very wrong.

I agree 100% with this. Noticed a lot of this going on in this board lately. I also told this guy about his BS sites, and what a surprise he never responded back to my e-mail.

What I do is check site on wayback at www.archive.org. you can also just look at the back links, a adult site with a bunch irrelevant backlinks for instance is has clearly been purchased for PR value. finally I don't buy yearly links, I'll buy links for 6 moths max; if the seller does not want to do this I go elsewhere.

Buyer Beware Especially When Buying From People You Have Not Done Business With Before!

[TMAC]

If you buy a PR4 Domain which is was a Health Site for example. Then switch to a Dating Site using the same Domain Name. Them turn around and sell links on your converted PR4 Dating site, or sell the Domain and not inform the buyer you flipped the domain content. You are ripping them off, because when that site is updated with the next Google update it will loose that PR. It will loose that PR because the new site will not have relevant content, or relevant backlinks to match what Google had when it updated the site last time.

[Jack Sparrow]

Saying it again: I rest my case. He doesnt give out the correct info from the beginning even when asked for it, but he DOES want everyone else who takes the bait to follow the rules in his book.

[RadicalSights]

what's going on here