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![]() A lot of people are looking to get into the online game in general or the adult market. Some have money, some do not and simple want to know how and where to get started. More importantly, they want a ROI (return on investment), understandably so. Some want a ROI in what is, frankly, unrealistic time line and dollars.
I am going to give a quick crash course on what these folks should be considering for their start up, and learning to make money with the absolute best chance of getting a return on their investment in the shortest time period. YOU WILL MAKE MONEY PERIOD. Which is more than you can say for building tube sites, tgps, and many other business models and sites out there that take a lot of start up money for scripts and designs, or traffic. Especially if you have no skills, or training. This method can be accomplished in an hour a day. It will not make you a millionaire by any means. But you will make money, and learn along the way. The Process: 1. Buy some bulk content. Preferably niche of some kind, and not overly saturated. Prices and bulk vary. You want something similar to this type of deal... 500 Scene Content Library $1000.00. You can find some other deals around for 100 here, 250 there, sometimes up to 1000. But you have to try and find some content in bulk, with decent variety in models. 2. You can update with ONE SCENE per day if you like, or more if you are feeling frisky. You will cut this into more than one. You would do your updates during peak clip store days and times. Keep in mind there are more than one clip store provider out there. Most of the actual 'work' (if you call it that).... compression and uploading... you can do while you sleep or at your day job. Leaving you to type in a good description for each clip and day, and schedule the updates. Even if you hunt and peck, this should take you no more than an hour a day. 3. While this method will drive you some good buying or converting buyers for sales. You will also want to drive some additional sales to your store. You can do this easily enough using link lists (free), tgp submits ($29.95 a mo. Chameleon Submitter), blogs (free), and an image host (free) in combination with those. I would also use some landing pages, and forum posts (free) if you are ambitious. Again, this should not take you more than an hour a day if that. You can also accomplish this on a low cost virtual host. 4. Over time you can always add in a pay site later when you can afford a decent script and design. This will make you additional revenues on top of your clip stores. So you start making your ROI back even faster. However, this will probably require you to upgrade your hosting plan to compensate for the video and bandwidth. Depending on the material, you may needed to go dedicated. Which can run you $99-300.00 a month. Depending if you want managed or not. Now why is a clip store the most bang for your buck and best ROI for a newbie starting out? Well I will use my content offer as an example, simply for convenience (however you can plug in any deal out on the boards). Clips4Sale stores price out the clips (accurately) according to the length of time (others can very, especially clips.com). So let's do the math... 500 scenes for $1000.00. That is around $2.00 per clip. Most clips run 3-12 minutes. So a 12 minute clip, one sold, will actually bring in $12.99 for that ONE scene sold ONE time. Now clips4sale is a 60/40 split. So you are going to get the 60% on that sale. $7.79. From your first sold clip, you are already in the black. Now, do you think you are going to sell more that ONE of any scene? Of course you are! So you will be in the black more a less out of the gate per scene, and profit. Will all scenes sell immediately? No. However, you will sell a lot more of some, and few of others. Basically, it will be a numbers game. You have so much content, and can update so easily that you can easily make money over your cost for content. But what about when you content runs out you ask? Well, you can reuse it. So that is even MORE return on your initial investment. This is the easiest way for a newbie to get started, dabble in traffic, and converting sales to get going. Are there some things that will make it even easier? Sure. I cover those in one of my guides. However, if you have read the forums, or ask around plus what I have already mentioned. You should be able to put together some ideas. Keep in mind this last piece. Your content must allow for clips store use, and you must have valid 2257 and a license. If someone reports your content as stolen, your store will be closed and you will lose all revenue unless you can prove your are an owner/licensed. A lot of content providers, myself included, are ruthless when it comes to sending out DMCA's and enforcing copyright. Lastly, some content providers will give you short descriptions of scenes. Most do not. Make sure you make up your OWN ORIGINAL descriptions. You do not want to risk getting dinged by Google for duplicate content. Good luck! If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. ICQ: 298063587 |
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Very nice post and some good sound advice
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Foots is a no bs person! Great info there!
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![]() Thanks man. Appreciate it.
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great info..bump for this great webmaster....:D
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listening too this
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Thanks man. Appreciate the support.
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Good luck bud.
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Good tips...thanks
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Clips4Sale.com Clips.com (although they low ball, and are more mainstream) FetishVideos.Com YooYouGirls.com ClipClinic.com I am sure there are more I am forgetting... While not all are good for sales. They are good for some added exposure and traffic. There is more than one way to work clip stores. Whether pushing sales to the store, link bait, or promoting main site sales. PROCESSING: Another questions asked is about processing video. I cover this more in my guide(s) on how to process and watermark videos in various programs. However, the low end program that could handle some of it would be something like VideoCharge. You can process mutliple files at one for conversion, and also watermark. However, I prefer to run my videos through Sorenson first. I will do 10-15 videos at one. Converting them from DV AVI to WMV, and then I will watermark and cut the clips in VideoCharge. You can also do this in Adobe Premiere, which is my program of choice. However, it is a bit slower, but you get better quality. If you are only doing 1-2 video posts a day. It is a better solution. But if you want to mass process videos, going the other way is better. HOT TIP: Last free tip for the day... if you are a college student and have an I.D. of any kind you can get discounts on most of the higher budget programs. So run a search for them. You simply fax them a copy of your valid college ID and you get sometimes 50% off. Enjoy! |
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Sounds like a good deal.
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As for FV. It would appear that at the bottom there is an error code. My best guess is that footer is where the sign up link would be. I do not see it at the header. I typically only use C4S, Clips and Fetish Videos to actively promote my sites. Mainly C4S. However, others with hardcore content say that Clips can be better converting and sales. The others I had tested, and did not care for. Some did not generate a lot of sales. Some their admin or back end was shit. Some did not allow FTP uploads and were browser based. Which I dislike. However, most people see to want to know about ALL the others out there. |
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Great info. Will give this some thought.
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I have found that it typically is more of the higher end producers who have those concerns and do not allow clip store use. However, I have seen many loosing up their license because of the economy, and needs of buyers. There are many providers out there, my only recommendation is you keep shopping. This is why licenses and what is allowed become very important that you check on before you do business. Some are very rigid in what they allow. Some items of interest in licensing. -Tube Site Use -Clip Store Use -VOD use -Expiration or renewal of license -Limited use for affiliates -Promo use -Limited by url/number of sites Those are off the top of my head. However, as I mentioned. Some of the smaller production companies are going to be a little more flexible with their licenses and uses then some of the bigger ones. If you can get a TON of content like mine, or similar, out there in bulk. You will be sitting pretty, and can easily break even in a few months time if not sooner depending on how aggressive you are. However not every niche is for everyone. |
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Just In....
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Great info - thanks for posting!
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More than welcome buddy. Hopefully it gives you some ideas.
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Thanks for sharing such a valuable information!
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You're welcome my friend.
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A couple more quick points of clarification.
The SIX MONTH offer includes ALL my guides plus coaching for that time period. At the end of the 6 months, if you want or need more help. It will cost an additional to stay on. Those investing in shooting content, or putting up a bigger bank roll have asked about this to make sure they get ROI on investment, and have some additional guidance. The $250.00, 30 day, offer is where you buy a single guide. For example, clip stores, or developing a business plan, or how to generate traffic. You buy that single guide, and I help you on that single subject matter for 30 days. Answering any and all your questions. Pointing you in the right direction. Saving you time and energy. Also keeping you from being ripped off as you navigate various things. Keep in mind with ANY of the offers. You are doing the work! Whether it is setting up a clip store, cutting content, developing the business plan, cutting and processing clips. YOU are the one who is doing it. I am simply helping you by email, IM, phone or whatever you need for guidance. Myself, or my assistants, could help you directly doing things. But it would cost more. Most people contacting me about these offers are attempting to, "learn how to fish" themselves. So their time and financial investment does not go to waste. Additionally, you do not need to license just my content for a clip store. You are more than welcome to shop around, find other deals, and try them out. I can't speak to how well they will convert long and short term, where I can on my own. Simply because I have tested different things over the years. But if you are not down with foot love, I can understand. You have to do what you like. So feel free to find some other content, and I can still guide you from there. I am sure you may get similar results. Maybe better, maybe worse. Lastly, I do not use nor have MSN for instant messenger. Nor will I install it. For IM I have primary ICQ for business chat. I am also available by phone, and email. Most pick email for longer more detailed conversations understandably so. That way they can refer to advise, feedback, Q&A, later. However, that is up to you. Once payment is made in full, we can get rolling. Mapping out what you need, and getting things working in the right direction. Regardless of 30 days, or six months. I am as anxious to get rolling as you are. |
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Bump for a good guy with a great plan
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Bump for someone that KNOWS how making money is being done!
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Thank you my friend.
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Much appreciated hoss.
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Bump for rare biz info!
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Bump nothing, this should be stickied! :D
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Bump for actual info
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You know barefootsies, I hate your avatars (this one and the one before) but I admire how hard you work, and how well you know your business.
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