How Do I Get Started in Adult?

[Barefootsies]

I get asked this question all the time. I will tell you my honest opinion although many others may disagree depending on their background. Some people are nothing but traffic guys, and work the affiliate and traffic broker game. Others are looking to do their own pay sites, and maybe produce their own content one day. While others do not care about any of that shit and simply want to make money from their home and in their underwear.

In my opinion the easiest way to start in the adult industry is with a clip store. It is low risk, and as long as you follow the routine daily, you should easily get your R.O.I. in a few months and from there you expand. However, before you go head strong into the adult industry you need to keep in mind that your success and failure resides completely on YOU. I can give you all the best advice on the planet, 13 years of experience, what I would recommend you do based on your knowledge, cash, and skill sets. But if you do not listen. There is nothing to keep you from ending up in the shitter. Adult online is the same as any other business. You have to put in the WORK. Obviously, there are some perks. Freedom, and working in your panties from home. That said, let?s get rolling.

This is going to be a basic business outline you would follow assuming your end goal is to develop your own pay sites, and possibly your own content. Before you get to that point, REGARDLESS of how much money you have, you should follow these steps. They obviously are not going to make you millions over night. But you WILL learn the skills you need to make money online.

1. Go to your local county clerk?s office and register a business D.B.A. (doing business as).

2. Go to your local bank and open up a BUSINESS checking account, and get your credit/debit card that goes with it.

3. Research the niche you want to start out in. There is a lot of good content out there you can get for a few thousand dollars that would last you for YEARS of updates. I would recommend you get into something you like personally. You are going to have to look at this stuff daily. So it would make you life more enjoyable if it is something you are passionate about. But you can always go more mainstream hardcore if you like. You may just need to work harder.

4. After you have picked a niche(s), then you need a domain. This will be important for a pay site later, branding, and watermarking your clips. I have written a tutorial on how to find good domain names in that section.

5. I would get a virtual hosting account. This is going to be for your banners, your gallery submits, posting up pictures to forums and other things. Virtual hosting is about as low as you can go, and be dependable. If you use a free host or something similar, they can nuke you and your content at any time. There is nothing more annoying that working for a month, and then have your content killed because you broke some Terms of Service or became high bandwidth. Hosting, in time, will be the life line of your business. You need to invest in a decent one for everything from hosting your site, promotion materials, branded email and DNS/domain management.

6. Next, you need to sign up for your clip stores. There are a number of them out there now a days, but really the only two I have found that make you decent money are Clips4Sale and Clips.com. The terms vary, and I prefer C4S myself, but typically you are looking at a 60/40 or 50/50 type of split. For their end, they are taking care of the billing, hosting, and other b.s. that they take on their end. While not the best deal around, it is a decent deal.

7. Once you get your content, you are going to want to watermark you clips. There is a tutorial to do it with one of the mid range programs I use VideoCharge, and recommend. There are higher and lower end on the market. I also use Premiere and Sorenson Squeeze, depending on if the clip is a re-run, or a 1st release, etc.. But I digress?

So you watermark you FULL LENGTH clips. Once you have done that, you would then want to cut your clips into sections. Some do this, some do not, it?s up to you. I am giving you a very basic overview of what has worked for me. So you do say maybe two week?s worth to start. Watermarking and compressing your FULL LENGTH, and the cutting into sections. I like to do three pieces. So if a clip is 10 minutes long, I do 3 minutes per. You can?t be less that 2 minutes on a Clip Store.

Once you have mastered a clip store, you would later want to get dedicated hosting and add in a pay site. In this economy, and today's adult industry I would recommend you do a MechBunny pay tube site. So you work both the single clip buyers, but also the upsell to a pay site. Add in your own network of blogs, free and fan sites using creative SEO tactics, and you can start working the SERPs traffic.

Continued later?

[TrainWreckContent]

great advise...would love to talk to you more as i am in the process of trying to get my first site live and any tips or advise i can get is greatly appricated

[Barefootsies]

I currently use the following software?

Adobe Premiere. I use this to pull the video from camera, and used to use it to process my clips. This is simply too slow for me since I now process many clips at a time, but would be good for you since you do not have volume. You can pull the clip from your camera via FIREWIRE and then cut, watermark, and process the clip all in one program. You do not have the multiple options for encoding, WMV, QTM, and so on which is helpful for later use. But it is a good program for your initial needs. I still use it for pulling the video myself. However, I then use other programs to make things much faster. I also use this program in the first step to render a DVD.

Sorenson Squeeze.
I use this program to import my videos, and compress them. It gives you the option to process many clips in a que, which I love, so I can load it up and go to bed. You also have the option to easily process the clip into other formats if you like. Which is helpful for limited content library and clip store use. It has a lot of other features I do not use, but it is a very robust program.

VideoCharge
I use this program for watermarking. Since I do many clips at once now via Sorenson. I also use this program to cut up processed clips. This is done in a few seconds and wastes little time. Which is nice. When you do this in Premiere, you have to wait for it to re-render. Again, not a big issue for you since you are starting out, but it is a hassle when you are trying to rerun 20 clips on stores and sites at once.

FrameShots
This little gem is awesome for video captures. You need vidcaps for your clip store, or I would recommend it, as I have found out that is converts best for me. You do not want to have to manually go through frame by frame trying to grab 6 shots from a clip. This program you can load up the clip, and set it to pull 10/50/100 whatever snaps, and then you just roll though them and pick 6. It does a nice job, and makes it much easier.

CuteFTP Pro
I use this program for my uploading of clips. I am not sure what all else is out there anymore since I have never had an issue with this program. I just update it so often as they add in new features. It does well for your uploading of clips, whether to site or clip stores. I do not like to use web browser uploaders. In fact, I can?t fucking stand them.

Adobe PhotoShop
I use this program for piecing together my 6 shots for the clip store. You do not need anything this fancy for this simplistic use. I am not sure what all else is on the market, but a simply editor should do the trick and there may even be a free one for this minimalistic need. I also use it to crop, and clean up, the raw images from shoots so I have it for TGP submissions and such down the road. TGP submissions are how you get a lot of links, and some traffic. It is really becoming more important for SEO purposes then it is for traffic generation now a days.

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A special note for those of you who are college students. You can get a discount on a lot of software by faxing them a copy of your college I.D.. Sometimes it is as much as 50-70% off!! So it is worth your while to check into it. Especially if you have a college I.D. to fax in for those more expensive programs.

[Barefootsies]

CLIP STORES: INVALUEABLE DESCRIPTIONS (SEO)

These tips and suggestions really apply to ALL sites in general. However, you are going to have some additional quirks and variations with each site and how is best to use these things to your advantage.

I would recommend you get an AdWords account if you do not have one already. Not only will this become invaluable over time for other projects, but it has some tools that are helpful for you with domain names, and SEO. Specifically, the keyword tool.

When you are writing descriptions, you have to think of the long term benefits literally. Some of the things you do today will effect you next month, three months from now and so on. Google will use these things for ranking your site and the search engine SERPS so it is best to do it right out of the gate. You will end up, or should, start a spreadsheet that has all the descriptions for your content.

For me, I have an excel spread sheet that shows clip name (ToeHee001_DV), description, models in scene, and so on. I had one of my assistants do it for me. It took her a couple of weeks to go through them all. This really is helpful when you go to launch a pay site later, or re-use clips for other clip stores. Then you can just cut and paste.

Getting back to what I was saying about keywords in your descriptions. You want to make sure when you are writing out your descriptions, each one is written out like you are trying to entice members to whip it out and go to work off your description. That includes using good keywords for your niche. If you do not know the niche, research it.

I know what they are for mine, and I will use them not only in my descriptions for each scene and try and mention them, or different ways (foot worship, toe sucking, foot licking, etc..) I will use them in blogs, youtube, and other things as well. I will make sure that over time I start ranking for those keywords.

If you are in a niche you do not know go to Google. Start researching some of the better sites in a niche. Use "View Source" and view their meta tags. Go back to your Google Adwords and type those phrases and keywords in to see how many searches they get per month. Over time, you start narrowing in on key words and phrases that are the 'hot ones' for your niche. You want to try and work those 'hot words' into your description when you can. Do not force it. If you are writing out quality descriptions, you will get them in over time.

Remember, when you are doing keywords and descriptions. These are long tail SEO and SERP tactics that will help you with algorhythms later. The number of times they keywords and phrases repeat on your website, in your descritpions, in your title tags, and so on.

They are not going to work SERPS by themselve, but they will give you a good solid first step.

[aztecboi2003]

Do you use Frameshots for where it says Image Name? And you just upload the image you made right there?

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by aztecboi2003

Do you use Frameshots for where it says Image Name? And you just upload the image you made right there?

Personally this is what I do for new clips in regards to FS.

1. Process, and compress videos from DV AVI to WMV. Including watermarking.
2. I then cut the full length into 3 minute pieces, or three parts and put in three folders.
3. I then use FS for each partial clip. Snapping 30 stills per clips.
4. I then will then review the 30, and look for 6 I think sum up the scene from beg to end.

5. I do this for all three parts. Making a six shot preview.
6. I do not close the images after I am done with each six shot. I will need them for final.
7. Once done with all three 6 shots. I then will pick 2 images per section, and make FULL.

I personally think this works best for converting sales to do it this way. But it's is a little work. C4S has added in some new features in the past year where they will make an animated gif of the scene for you. Also allowing you to set a preview of 10 seconds or whatever per scene.

I personally do not care for these because they are not accurate pertails unless you allow full video play of the scene. This is where your description is 'key' to the selling part of it. You need to write a good description for each piece. Not just, "Some broad gets her toes sucked", or, "Some skeezer enjoys foot love", or "A bunch of heffers tickle fight", etc...

Hope that helps.

[aztecboi2003]

Yes thanks. I tried out FS last night. I just may buy it today. I like what it does. Your right about the animated gif that C4S provides. It is ok but this is way better.

[arock10]

open a program, get affiliates sending lots of join, blame problems for several months on webmasters checks, keep money

[Barefootsies]

Picking Your Niche:
One of the main questions asked is about which niche to pick for running a clip store.

On my examples, and screen shots, I used foot fetish and tickling content. That does not mean you can't try other niches out there, including those you have more of a personal interest in and understand. However, I can't speak to ALL niches and their performance on a clip store.

If you want a good guide for what is selling. I would look at the main page of Clips4Sale, and see what niches and stores have a lot of sales. Then look at how they are doing their clips, descriptions, etc..

Warnings:
I have actually tried a few secondary niches myself. Results may vary depending on if the model(s) are actually answering emails, and doing any interaction with your patrons.

I mention this, because a lot of times I get an email about some guy who has local girls wanting to do solo, or wanting to do this or that for extra money and they think that they can do it and make a mint. You are not, unless she is directly interacting with the potential buyers.

I have had little real success with solo girls. That includes EX-GF content, even solo other things of fetish content. A solo girl, especially one who is not talkative and chatty through the scene is not really going to sell a lot IMHO.

Also, you need to keep in mind the length. Solo girl clips tend to be a lot shorter. So you could sell 200 of them, and not make a lot of money. It's hard to get these girls to do things on camera for 5-10 minutes.

I personally feel that grouped scenes work best. The scenes are longer, you can cut into pieces for additional updates, there is more action for you to write out tasty descriptions with keywords, and so on. I know it sometimes sucks writing out those descriptions, but they make a huge difference I have found.

So I would stay away from the EX-GF type of material, at least for clip stores, and almost all solo girl stuff unless they plan to interact (i.e. email, cams, etc.) with those patrons.

Lastly, I would say that starting out you are better to pick a niche that SELLING instead of your own preference. This allows you to recoup your investment on content purchases, and learn the ropes. At least you know the niche, and content is in demand. Once you have learned a trick or two, then add in some of your own flavor and see if you can sell it.

Some markets are going to be overly saturated. They could be yours if you are into mainstream, vanilla, run of the mills stuff. So it's better to be a bit more nichey, or sub niche to start while learning.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by J-SiN

One idea ive heard for picking niches is combining saturated (but selling) niches to create micro-niches... like 'mature latina' or 'asian lesbian'. What do you think of this strategy?

Well, there are sub niches to every niche out there. They are not going to sell on volume like the main one, but you can typically target buying, decent recurring members.

For example in Foot Fetish. There are endless sub niches. Some lesser known..

- Cast Fetish
- Peddle Pumping
- Crankers
- Crushing
- Sleepy Feet

Then you have the higher selling, and bigger markets like Foot Worship, Foot Jobs, Stocking/Pantyhose/Nylon, FemDom, etc..

I can't speak to all niches and their sub niche markets, or their popularity because frankly I do not try and appeal to everyone. I stick to what I know and understand. Not only in production, but also in regards to selling.

[Barefootsies]

Some Additional Tips or Q&A:

About Content Licensing:
1. You want to have licensed content, with 2257 docs.
2. Not all content providers will provide descriptions for scenes. I do, most do not.
3. Typically content is delivered by FTP, and you have to download it. HDrive costs more.
4. You do not need exclusive/semi exclusive/HD to make money. Especially on clip stores.
5. You can re-run the content over and over for years and make money.
6. Not all content providers allow clip store, or tube site, use. Check restrictions.
7. Most licenses are non-transferable.
8. You cannot license purchased content to others. But can sell to customers.
9. Not all content comes with images. Or vice versa.
10. Bit rate, and size or dimension of videos will vary with different providers.

Clips.Com:
1. They are another clip store type of site you can use. Hardcore will typically do better.
2. They default charge .25/50ct per minute versus C4S charging $1.00 per min.
3. They typically do not sell as well as C4S, but you can still make money with them.
4. Their interface, the approval process, and admin is a bit different.

Additional Quick Points:
1. You want to watermark all clips. Point domain to your clip store.
2. Schedule your updates once per day, and have them run through the day.
3. You can increase traffic with minimal promotion using TGP and other submits.
4. Use short clips or trailers in promotion (if allowed).
5. Clip stores pay once per month. Check/Wire/ACH.
6. You can start a clip store as an individual. I recommend long term you form company.
7. I would recommend you have at least three hundred, 5-10+ minute, clips to start.
8. Maximize your content. Pay sites, clip stores, DVD (if allowed), mobile, free sites, etc..

The clip store should be your first baby steps to making money with minimal risk in adult. Once you learn the ropes in a few months, and start understanding the how's and why's, you would want to either launch more stores. Or start upselling your pay site. At those point you would then point the domain to your pay site, instead of the clip store. Some people will want to pay on a per month basis, instead of on a per clip. So you would want to cater to both segments.

If you have minimal time, and simply want to do 2/5/+ clip stores alone, that's fine. Some people never open a pay site or sell DVD's etc.. It comes down to your time commitments and what you can ultimately do on a CONSISTENT basis. However, ultimately, you would want to provide these other revenue streams to get more business and sales.

This is a starting point for low risk, and R.O.I.. Not the end all, be all, to adult.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by aztecboi2003

Yes thanks. I tried out FS last night. I just may buy it today. I like what it does. Your right about the animated gif that C4S provides. It is ok but this is way better.

Glad I could help bud.

[Barefootsies]

I have had a few people ask me about camera gear because they are DETERMINED to shoot their own.

Mind you, I do not recommend this until you have learned how to drive traffic, convert a sale, as well as some other things involved in just RECRUITING girls. Which does not get into filming them correctly, and planning out your sessions.

You could probably escape with a $500.00 consumer camcorder like I did for years. But this is a middle of the road recommendation from him, and what I am looking at for myself. So you can opt to go a consumer camera route to minimize your start up expenses. But just giving you both options.

But for those who've asked, here is what my buddy (Jim Gunn) recommends.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...HDV_1080i.html

For lightign I like fluorescents with dayalight balanced bulbs. They throw a beautiful soft light and also very important they throw little heat into the room, so you and teh models don't sweat so much.You need two lights, with stands, ballasts, cables etc. Kits have all but bulbs which you must buy separate.

They have several similar kits and a few different series oif lights but this one is very good. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...rescent .html

You want the 5500 degree bulbs to go with it. Those are daylight.

Unlike mine, you can dim these with a dimmer switch. And it has a travel case. I believe they come with smallish stands so they are easy to set up in a small bedroom or living room.These will last you for years, well worth the investment

I haven't even changed the bulbs in my bigger Kinos and I have been giving them heavy location use for almost five years now!

When I started years ago. I started out with $3-5000.00 (which included gear, 10 sessions, with 12 different models), a consumer DV camcorder, still camera with a couple memory sticks, a lot of batteries, some blue gels from the camera store, construction lights, a house with nice sunlight, and I shot during the middle of the day.

Unless you are looking to directly produce and license content to programs, brokers, I do not think you need to be shooting on the highest of high end to start. I have made plenty shooting like I did. Not only on clip stores, but membership sites, DVD, among other things later.

[Barefootsies]

Some misconceptions about adult, and especially if you are producing your own content. Many mom and pop, or small producers seem to fall into these.

1. You can and should reuse girls. Some patrons want more of certain girls.
2. You SHOULD proactively be asking for feedback, and scripts from patrons.
3. Most of those model sites, for recruiting, are major time wasters. Don't bother.
4. Not all models shoot on a 'per scene' basis. You should pay per session.
5. Your model recruiting close ratio 1 in 10. Cast a bigger net. You'll need it.
6. You should proactively offer to shoot custom for patrons (for a fee).
7. You should try and shoot both pictures and videos for licensing purposes down the line.
8. You should have 4-10 key popular scenes you repeat. Especially for 'breaking in' new girls.
9. Solo girl sites will only sell if the girl is proactively involved.
10. Content does not have to be hardcore, or nude, to sell and convert.

[Barefootsies]

Models, models, models. Everyone wants to know where to find them.

As I said previously, you really need to learn how to make money before you are out spending money. To do that, you need to license someone elses content and learn to monetize it in a clip store format IMHO. That will minimize your risks.

However, for those who are insistent. Some more tips for you before you recruit models.

1. Have business address, business cards printed, and simple website up with examples.
2. Do not provide too much information up front... On sites, or ads.
3. Develop a three step interview process. Each step provides more info.
4. Make sure you have your model release drawn up. Each girl needs to sign one.
5. You will have more success recruiting from social networks, and secondary sources.
6. I would recommend you have a phone number other than your cell, or home.
7. Filter out models before any face-to-face interview. You want to 'test them' in email.
8. Only 1 in 10, if you're good, will work for you. So expect everyone to be a, "no".
9. Meet the prospects in a public place of their choosing.
10. Models are expendable. They are only as loyal as the $. So always be recruiting new.

There is more to it, but that gives you some basic guidelines for those insistent on recruiting their own models. Having learned the hard way through trial and error, probably thousands of interviews, and the better part of a decade and over 1000 scenes. I would strongly recommend you walk, before you run.

But in the end, it's your money. Good luck!

[Barefootsies]

One thing I can't stress enough is newsletters. Even if you only have 30 patrons to your clip store, you should still be sending out a newsletter every time you update. Including daily.

Sure, some people will turn it off or remove themselves. But most will not. With the huge variety or clip stores out there, you need to make sure you keep your people in the loop. I still buy clips from my favorite stores weekly, and if they did not send me a newsletter. I would not check them 9 out of 10 times either.

Additionally, as you expand your network, you really should consider adding in a newsletter to every site you have. All of my pay sites have them. All of my clip stores have them. I do not always use them enough, but when I launch new products, new sites, or run new offers. I always announce it in my newsletter and it will get you some nice sales for a day or so.

Since I produce my own content, I also use it to solicit scripts and ideals from the patrons so I shoot material more tailored to their likes. I am not going to produce custom if I am not paid to do so. But if people keep asking for the same stuff, it does not hurt to slide some in for added sales.

A newsletter is a powerful tool. Over time, with your network of sites, you gather a huge list of followers. Which is lovely for when you launch new products and websites. You could take it a step further and even start charging people for access to your weekly mailing.

Start thinking of all the patrons you can reach out and touch between your message boards, clip stores, pay sites, and other ways to gather their info. You simply need to take all of that information, and centralize it into ONE across ALL your sites.

Do not abuse it however, and remain CAN SPAM compliant. Otherwise you will piss off your peeps. Which is never good.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by yuriko

+1

Mainstream is far larger than adult.

But lots of good info on here have been asking some of these questions myself earlier. But problem is where do you find models ? Strip clubs ?

No. That is one of the absolute WORST places to find models in my experience.

No matter which strip club, all these women will take whatever was their best night EVER and claim that is what they are making EVERY night. So they want you to pay them the same $300/500.00.

They also tend to feel they are something special. Just because some old drunks, and lonely desperado's will flip em a few bucks. They think that online that will make a difference. It doesn't.

Many of them also do not want to be 'forever online' or have people know about their activities. While I rarely have any customers from around my area, or even this side of the state. They feel that being online would 'out' them to some degree. As well make them a public record. Where working in some shady strip club they feel they have a harder time to be found out, or they can 'out' you for being one of the desperado's. Kinda of like some fucked up power thing.

Have I used strippers every? Yes. Old business partner brought me a bunch of them when we first started out. Nine of 10 were the absolute worst. Same for the Model Mayhem and OMP type sites. They all 'talk' like they want to work, but when you bring them in they suck. Some want to fight you the whole time because they do not like your style compared to some other gumshoe photographer they worked with.

I have had the BEST success recruiting from social networks. I have never been one to walk around like a guido flipping business cards. I set it up in a way, that THEY would come to me looking for work. Then I would go through my three step process before the interview, then do a face to face, and then schedule them.

This solved the no-shows, and other b.s. you would run into.

[aztecboi2003]

Escorts are horrible as well, I paid a gal 100 for 2 scenes and 2 months later she wants everything down because she is changing her lifestyle. So even though I have a signed release she is my friend, I took them down. Now I'm out 100 with nothing to show for it but 2 clips I can't use. I'm sure she will change her mind but right when she wanted them down they were starting to sell.

[crazytrini85]

Great post BF. Gained some respect for you. Always thought you were just trolling until this post, which is pretty spot on.

The number 1 thing I agree with, don't use strippers and hookers. They are the worst.

[RadicalSights]

Smart people would not want to get started in Adult anymore.

But at least you made a post with some creativity anyway.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by aztecboi2003

Escorts are horrible as well, I paid a gal 100 for 2 scenes and 2 months later she wants everything down because she is changing her lifestyle. So even though I have a signed release she is my friend, I took them down. Now I'm out 100 with nothing to show for it but 2 clips I can't use. I'm sure she will change her mind but right when she wanted them down they were starting to sell.

Sorry to hear about your experience.

We have had that happen as well. Not with the skeezers, but with some of the other girls. Whether they do the shoot and then change their mind later. Or the BF finds out whatever because they never told them and wants the content down.

We have a very simple policy since we always shoot 2-4 girls at a time. If they want to retract the original agreement, especially since most have cashed the check immediately after the session, we will give you 48 hours to come up with the FULL MONEY for the entire session.

That means all of the girls involved, and any other fees and aggravation. They do not simply refund us the money for her. She was in other scenes with other girls. So we have to scrap everything from that day. So she pays for everything. Not one has ever accepted the offer. They just drop it and disappear.

You have to remember, this is a business. It involves more than them. Although, this has really been a non-issue the past 5+ years for us. Partially because I became much better at the three step weeding out process. Part of that is just getting the right mindset you do not care. The second half is the economy. There is always someone else next in line. You simply have to take the emotion out of it.

This is really not where someone new, even with deep pockets, should start as I have said before. There is so many other things I have not yet discussed that go into managing models and even the sessions themselves. You should really start with learning the basics with someone else's content and a clip store. Learn to sell, drive traffic, convert, etc..

It is less costly, and will save you a ton of money. If you have success there, then slowly tinker with producing your own content. You can burn through that money fast. If you do not shoot the scenes right. It will be worthless.

[Barefootsies]

1 - what payment methods are accepted on the clipstore?

1. Clip stores accept all major credit cards, and they also have some sort of clips4sale gift card type of thing. My guess is that those who use this prefer their privacy or are from countries where credit cards are not an option or easy to get. There are plenty of 2nd, and third world countries like this.

2 - does the clipstore support other people (vendors) from selling thier stuff on your store (and you taking a cut etc)?

2. Your clip store is yours alone. No one else can sell on your clip store.

Where do I get the content to sell?

3. You can contact me. I have content producers I work with, and broker for. Or I can refer you to some places. Or you can get them from WM forums. You want to make sure your content is licensed. Whether using for your clip store or adult pay site(s). Make sure those you are buying from provide you a license, and 2257 docs.

I can pay for some videos and get access to the download link .

4. Correct. They pick which clip(s) they want. Pay. Then receive an email with a download link.

Do we resell them afterwards or what .. ?

5. No. You have to have licensed clips to sell in your store. Again, it's like running a shopping cart. You buy or license goods to sell in your store. You then market that store, and make sales. Same concept. You license content from a broker or producer. You upload it into your store. You then market it, and get paid.

You can't simply download clips you buy off someone's store, and then turn around and resell them. You need to license material.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by Wink

So basically, I can sell the exact copy of what I bought - modifications ( like cutting it into smaller pieces, dumping it into a series of pictures, etc. ) are not allowed ?
Any recommendations on how many clips would be enough to start with ?

You can't buy from Clips4Sale and then recut and redistribute. No.

You would need to license some content like this.

220 Amateur dvd's for $1250.00 (over 1k scenes)
Covers and descriptions here: http://www.cool-content.com/ta.zip
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You would then have licensed material from a content provider. You would then...

1. Compress the clips with your watermark or url.
2. Cut the watermarked clips into segments.
3. Write a description of the scene.
4. Catalog description of the scene in a spreadsheet for later reference.
5. Upload the clips to your clip store.
6. Schedule the update(s).

Most of this you would do before you go to bed. Loading the clips into a program, and watermarking them. Uploading them into your store via FTP. You really only need to be at your computer for the descriptions, scheduling, and maybe cutting segments as that can be done fast without re-compression.

[Barefootsies]

Ok. So I need licensed content. Where do I get some?

Also, what if my budget is not very much?

Here's the very first thing you should be doing. Planning.
1. Budget for content purchase. How much can you spend?
2. Niches you are interested in. Keep in mind, they are 2nd to availabiltiy.
3. Amount of content. 100/300/500/1000 scenes?
4. If you want pictures and video. Pictures are handy for promotion.

Answering these questions will get you started on narrowing the field. There are many providers out there, and things are going to vary by answering those simple questions.

You do not need HD quality content for a clip store. You can always buy it, but I would advise against it. When you get into HD content, you will want to make sure you have a copy of Sorenson Squeeze. Which makes multiple formats for content during compression.

You do not need exclusive. I have been re-running my fetish content for years. No matter how many times, new or old store, the results are the same again and again. I have been doing this little 'experiment' for years. Always the same. So you can use semi or non exclusive. You can also re-run your content for YEARS.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by pornsawanmfc

thank you for answering. I think i understand about the clips now. The length is not so important but being able to post a new clip every day is.

Correct.

Also getting those repeated 'pops'. Some people will make multiple versions, or renders, of clips instead of breaking into pieces. It is essentially the same thing.

[aztecboi2003]

Maybe you could start another thread with all the content you have available for sale. Might help out some people who are looking for content.

[Jobs4Adults_com]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

I get asked this question all the time. I will tell you my honest opinion although many others may disagree depending on their background. Some people are nothing but traffic guys, and work the affiliate and traffic broker game. Others are looking to do their own pay sites, and maybe produce their own content one day. While others do not care about any of that shit and simply want to make money from their home and in their underwear.

In my opinion the easiest way to start in the adult industry is with a clip store. It is low risk, and as long as you follow the routine daily, you should easily get your R.O.I. in a few months and from there you expand. However, before you go head strong into the adult industry you need to keep in mind that your success and failure resides completely on YOU. I can give you all the best advice on the planet, 13 years of experience, what I would recommend you do based on your knowledge, cash, and skill sets. But if you do not listen. There is nothing to keep you from ending up in the shitter. Adult online is the same as any other business. You have to put in the WORK. Obviously, there are some perks. Freedom, and working in your panties from home. That said, let?s get rolling.

This is going to be a basic business outline you would follow assuming your end goal is to develop your own pay sites, and possibly your own content. Before you get to that point, REGARDLESS of how much money you have, you should follow these steps. They obviously are not going to make you millions over night. But you WILL learn the skills you need to make money online.

1. Go to your local county clerk?s office and register a business D.B.A. (doing business as).

2. Go to your local bank and open up a BUSINESS checking account, and get your credit/debit card that goes with it.

3. Research the niche you want to start out in. There is a lot of vicevalley.com/ - good content out there you can get for a few thousand dollars that would last you for YEARS of updates. I would recommend you get into something you like personally. You are going to have to look at this stuff daily. So it would make you life more enjoyable if it is something you are passionate about. But you can always go more mainstream hardcore if you like. You may just need to work harder.

4. After you have picked a niche(s), then you need a domain. This will be important for a pay site later, branding, and watermarking your clips. I have written a tutorial on how to find good domain names in that section.

5. I would get a account. This is going to be for your banners, your gallery submits, posting up pictures to forums and other things. Virtual hosting is about as low as you can go, and be dependable. If you use a free host or something similar, they can nuke you and your content at any time. There is nothing more annoying that working for a month, and then have your content killed because you broke some Terms of Service or became high bandwidth. Hosting, in time, will be the life line of your business. You need to invest in a decent one for everything from hosting your site, promotion materials, branded email and DNS/domain management.

6. Next, you need to sign up for your clip stores. There are a number of them out there now a days, but really the only two I have found that make you decent money are Clips4Sale and Clips.com. The terms vary, and I prefer C4S myself, but typically you are looking at a 60/40 or 50/50 type of split. For their end, they are taking care of the billing, hosting, and other b.s. that they take on their end. While not the best deal around, it is a decent deal.

7. Once you get your content, you are going to want to watermark you clips. There is a tutorial to do it with one of the mid range programs I use, and recommend. There are higher and lower end on the market. I also use Premiere and Sorenson Squeeze, depending on if the clip is a re-run, or a 1st release, etc.. But I digress?

So you watermark you FULL LENGTH clips. Once you have done that, you would then want to cut your clips into sections. Some do this, some do not, it?s up to you. I am giving you a very basic overview of what has . So you do say maybe two week?s worth to start. Watermarking and compressing your FULL LENGTH, and the cutting into sections. I like to do three pieces. So if a clip is 10 minutes long, I do 3 minutes per. You can?t be less that 2 minutes on a Clip Store.

Once you have mastered a clip store, you would later want to get pay tube site. So you work both the single clip buyers, but also the upsell to a pay site. Add in your own network of blogs, free and fan sites using creative , and you can start working the SERPs traffic.

Continued later?

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"Continued later?" ;)

[BillyParadise]

Nice threadjack. Might want to hire a copywriter for your next one.