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adultmobile 06-30-2012 12:19 PM

I wonder one thing here:

http://business.avn.com/articles/leg...ds-480346.html

"Navarro did grant a request by Oron that PayPal be allowed to continue processing payments for Oron.com, as long as Oron not be allowed to withdraw any of the funds while the court's TRO remains in effect."
"Defendant asks this Court to release EUR 71.736,22 before July 1, 2012 from its PayPal account and to release EUR 277.109,07 before July 9, 2012 from its PayPal account in order to pay its third party provider LeaseWeb B.V"

Why PayPal would continue processing payments for Oron (or any other merchant) after as a Judge freezes its assets? PayPal does not process for legal adult sites, eventually they will never admit it, but they think file sharing it is so popular (even openly, see pirate parties getting votes in Germany, and no any parent afraid if kids download disney movies), and so not damaging the PayPal brand as it is porn.
In other words, my impression it is that PayPal will more likely drop file lockers if voices they support porn (illegal or not), more than pirated content.

VenusBlogger 06-30-2012 12:20 PM

It's funny that your facebook group has all hot girls pics avatars...

LOL, classic 1000+ indian fake followers bought at black hat world.

Just sayin. Looks very fake:

http://stopfilelockers.com/

PIRIOD.

xenigo 06-30-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19032801)
It's funny that your facebook group has all hot girls pics avatars...

LOL, classic 1000+ indian fake followers bought at black hat world.

Just sayin. Looks very fake:

http://stopfilelockers.com/

PIRIOD.

LOL

Good catch. They are all fake. They all have the same friends, and they all have identical music, books, television, and game preferences. What are the chances? :)

JimmyStephans 06-30-2012 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19032798)
I wonder one thing here:

http://business.avn.com/articles/leg...ds-480346.html

"Navarro did grant a request by Oron that PayPal be allowed to continue processing payments for Oron.com, as long as Oron not be allowed to withdraw any of the funds while the court's TRO remains in effect."
"Defendant asks this Court to release EUR 71.736,22 before July 1, 2012 from its PayPal account and to release EUR 277.109,07 before July 9, 2012 from its PayPal account in order to pay its third party provider LeaseWeb B.V"

Why PayPal would continue processing payments for Oron (or any other merchant) after as a Judge freezes its assets? PayPal does not process for legal adult sites, eventually they will never admit it, but they think file sharing it is so popular (even openly, see pirate parties getting votes in Germany, and no any parent afraid if kids download disney movies), and so not damaging the PayPal brand as it is porn.
In other words, my impression it is that PayPal will more likely drop file lockers if voices they support porn (illegal or not), more than pirated content.

I have been reading all the court documents on this and seen everything thats been filed (its all available on RFCEpress.com, but I will post later.

I think that the PayPal thing is a bluff from Oron to the Lawyers. I don't think these lawyers, based on what they state in papers, really know Oron.com's business model and I am under the impression that they thought PayPal was processing but its wasn't. I think that stopped back in January when Megaupload case started.

Any, just my opinion... that the Oron lawyers are not experienced and informed as they should be, and that the Liberty lawyers know this business very well.

I got all the court docs and will post links a bit later.

VenusBlogger 06-30-2012 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 19032868)
LOL

Good catch. They are all fake. They all have the same friends, and they all have identical music, books, television, and game preferences. What are the chances? :)

that AUSSIE guy must be doing like 10K per month only with DATING EWHORING in FACEBOOK...

90% of males are quite dumb in that social network and use it to "TRY" to get LAID off FAKE Profiles.

xenigo 06-30-2012 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19032955)
that AUSSIE guy must be doing like 10K per month only with DATING EWHORING in FACEBOOK...

90% of males are quite dumb in that social network and use it to "TRY" to get LAID off FAKE Profiles.

I've gotten laid off of fake profiles. About 3 years ago I met this chick from Yahoo Personals... ended up marrying her. I'm still fairly certain she's going to post some shit on my Facebook wall about wanting me to join her paysite or something... :1orglaugh

longdongsilver 06-30-2012 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19032086)
You seem intent on derailing this. What you don't understand that this project has oversight by very good lawyers and my resources are considerable enough to defend any issues. Truth is a defence to defamation in Australia, so there is no problem.

"my resources are considerable enough to defend any issues" --- a blog with some fake facebook likes you purchased ??? is this to what you refer???

You continue to sound like a total moron.

Where did you buy your facebook likes from?? demand a refund at once.

People are not trying to derail you, you're on track to becoming a total laughing stock to anyone with the slightest shred of sense.

Stop going on about yourself, your private school 'old tie network' of powerful friends and being hatched out in Australia. None of these things are remarkable and some of them most would be ashamed of.

Your complete personality is toe curling.

Tubes are the issue, many people are telling you this, if you close every file locker (not you personally since i have little faith in some self important childlike egomaniac ) but if everyone one was closed will make litte to no difference to adult webmasters in terms of sales.

If you are disgusted by CP then you need to get to the real culprits, filelockers need to be make to report and trace these people along with email groups, news groups etc etc.

Any online form of storage can be a target for these kind of people, i do not agree with you that slamming any business that has had this uploaded to their service needs to be closed down because you say so.

Don't make a blog with your step by step plan of how to avoid getting closed down, and the persons name at paypal you want fired for bringing into question why they would discuss this kind of thing with a person like yourself.

johnnyloadproductions 06-30-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19032971)
"my resources are considerable enough to defend any issues" --- a blog with some fake facebook likes you purchased ??? is this to what you refer???

You continue to sound like a total moron.

Where did you buy your facebook likes from?? demand a refund at once.

People are not trying to derail you, you're on track to becoming a total laughing stock to anyone with the slightest shred of sense.

Stop going on about yourself, your private school 'old tie network' of powerful friends and being hatched out in Australia. None of these things are remarkable and some of them most would be ashamed of.

Your complete personality is toe curling.

Tubes are the issue, many people are telling you this, if you close every file locker (not you personally since i have little faith in some self important childlike egomaniac ) but if everyone one was closed will make litte to no difference to adult webmasters in terms of sales.

If you are disgusted by CP then you need to get to the real culprits, filelockers need to be make to report and trace these people along with email groups, news groups etc etc.

Any online form of storage can be a target for these kind of people, i do not agree with you that slamming any business that has had this uploaded to their service needs to be closed down because you say so.

Don't make a blog with your step by step plan of how to avoid getting closed down, and the persons name at paypal you want fired for bringing into question why they would discuss this kind of thing with a person like yourself.

taking down file lockers is a reasonable goal and the abuse isn't exclusive to our industry which means making friends in mainstream to help win the fight is possible.

Simply stated, file lockers allow huge quantities of illegal porn to be archived, loads of media content from both porn producers and mainstream movie makers.

People don't care usually if something doesn't effect them. It doesn't help if someone derails a piracy thread saying that their stuff is micro niche therefore nobody looks at it except keywords in the search engine or how large the files are in the members are to discourage any downloaders from uploading.
Mainstream producers could care less about the tubes that effect us so severely but file lockers they care about.

Like anything else, argument can only make sense to a certain extent with individuals before you need to back away because your time is spent better else where, like taking action.

AdultKing 06-30-2012 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger (Post 19032801)
It's funny that your facebook group has all hot girls pics avatars...

LOL, classic 1000+ indian fake followers bought at black hat world.

Just sayin. Looks very fake:

http://stopfilelockers.com/

PIRIOD.

It happened on both sites almost as soon as I placed the Facebook page social tool onto the sites, I am guessing this (like the DDOS attacks) was meant to discredit the site. If someone wan't to volunteer to remove them all (there are some real followers amongst them) then please step forward, because I have more important things to do.

The real fans of the two pages will see the posts and reply to them, the fake indian made profiles will just sit there and do nothing until their accounts progressively get closed off by facebook.

AdultKing 06-30-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longdongsilver (Post 19032971)
"my resources are considerable enough to defend any issues" --- a blog with some fake facebook likes you purchased ??? is this to what you refer???

You continue to sound like a total moron.

Obvious file locker supporter is obvious. Both pages set up got hundreds of likes the moment they were placed onto the respective websites, like the DDOS attacks we received it was just another way for the disgruntled uploaders (who are about to lose their income) to discredit the sites.

As stated above, if you want to volunteer to weed out the fake from real profiles who have liked the page then please feel free.

AdultKing 06-30-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19032798)
I wonder one thing here:

http://business.avn.com/articles/leg...ds-480346.html

"Navarro did grant a request by Oron that PayPal be allowed to continue processing payments for Oron.com, as long as Oron not be allowed to withdraw any of the funds while the court's TRO remains in effect."
"Defendant asks this Court to release EUR 71.736,22 before July 1, 2012 from its PayPal account and to release EUR 277.109,07 before July 9, 2012 from its PayPal account in order to pay its third party provider LeaseWeb B.V"

Paypal usually hold funds during a review but will still process payments, it's only transfers and withdrawals that are affected. If Paypal kills an account then the balance is returned to the account holder after 180 days unless a court tells them otherwise.

Please discuss this stuff elsewhere, this thread is ONLY about closing down file lockers.

SplatterMaster 06-30-2012 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033053)
Paypal usually hold funds during a review but will still process payments, it's only transfers and withdrawals that are affected. If Paypal kills an account then the balance is returned to the account holder after 180 days unless a court tells them otherwise.

Please discuss this stuff elsewhere, this thread is ONLY about closing down file lockers.

But PayPal doesn?t process payments for Oron, or do they? Probably something to add to your cause. Just because new processing has stopped, doesn?t mean rebill processing is still not happening :winkwink:

VenusBlogger 06-30-2012 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033045)
It happened on both sites almost as soon as I placed the Facebook page social tool onto the sites, I am guessing this (like the DDOS attacks) was meant to discredit the site. If someone wan't to volunteer to remove them all (there are some real followers amongst them) then please step forward, because I have more important things to do.

The real fans of the two pages will see the posts and reply to them, the fake indian made profiles will just sit there and do nothing until their accounts progressively get closed off by facebook.

Ok, that makes sense now... :)

AdultKing 06-30-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SplatterMaster (Post 19033116)
But PayPal doesn?t process payments for Oron, or do they? Probably something to add to your cause. Just because new processing has stopped, doesn?t mean rebill processing is still not happening :winkwink:

There are other issues with Oron besides processing.

SplatterMaster 06-30-2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033195)
There are other issues with Oron besides processing.

Oh I?m sure. But if rebills happen with Oron they happen with others too, even after the new signups are cut off. Just saying.

You?ve got to get PayPal to commit to new signups, rebills, and payments to affiliates. It?s all dirty money.

AlexShark 06-30-2012 08:56 PM

On your site you keep saying that DropBox has no illecit content, how about these:


https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien....dropbox.c om

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...dl.dropbox.com

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...dl.dropbox.com

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...dl.dropbox.com

You will probably now say that Captain America and Godzilla are already taking care of it underground

AlexShark 06-30-2012 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark (Post 19033243)
On your site you keep saying that DropBox has no illecit content, how about these:


https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien....dropbox.c om

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...dl.dropbox.com

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...dl.dropbox.com

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclien...dl.dropbox.com

You will probably now say that Captain America and Godzilla are already taking care of it underground


Come on have the balls to post DropBox on your site, or you want to take care of all the local sites in local language that host between 200 and 300 files first?

johnnyloadproductions 06-30-2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark (Post 19033245)
Come on have the balls to post DropBox on your site, or you want to take care of all the local sites in local language that host between 200 and 300 files first?

You miss the point.
When people use dropbox they aren't getting any kickbacks or incentives for sharing that content. I even heard that dropbox was thinking about cutting off the public access, at least for free accounts.

People get paid money which is a strong incentive to cause so much abuse on these networks.

Dropbox works on several smartphones, tablets, and across all operating systems for convenient use. A lot of these filehosts that are up and coming and popping up like daises use cookie cutter scripts on some cheap dedicated boxes.

This makes me wonder how many of you are double citizens.

xenigo 06-30-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark (Post 19033243)
On your site you keep saying that DropBox has no illecit content, how about these:

You will probably now say that Captain America and Godzilla are already taking care of it underground

He never said anything about Dropbox not having illicit content. What he's saying is that Dropbox isn't PAYING pirates to upload pirated content, and PAYING affiliates to sell joins to said pirated content, and CHARGING pirates a monthly unlimited access membership to download pirated content.

Dropbox's business model is for personal storage, and sharing files and documents... not being a frontrunner of rampant piracy.

One business model could legitimately fall under safeharbor provisions, and the other does not. Do you not understand the difference?

AlexShark 06-30-2012 10:12 PM

Adult affiliate programs pay money too, still not all affiliates spam or install cookie stuffing trojans I guess ?

xenigo 06-30-2012 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark (Post 19033299)
Adult affiliate programs pay money too, still not all affiliates spam or install cookie stuffing trojans I guess ?

Smoke more crack.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lg...i80do1_500.jpg

AdultKing 07-01-2012 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark (Post 19033299)
Adult affiliate programs pay money too, still not all affiliates spam or install cookie stuffing trojans I guess ?

Listen , I've just about had enough of you. This is a serious thread related to killing file lockers only. Debate your little debates in your own thread.

If this thread is derailed by anyone else I'll just consider whether to pull the plug on keeping GFY informed and involved.

AlexShark 07-01-2012 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033429)
Listen , I've just about had enough of you. This is a serious thread related to killing file lockers only. Debate your little debates in your own thread.

If this thread is derailed by anyone else I'll just consider whether to pull the plug on keeping GFY informed and involved.

Whatver, I am off this... success!

AdultKing 07-01-2012 05:33 AM

Who'd like to do a little undercover work for me ? It's nothing serious, but would be helpful. ICQ me for details. 19051100

john FVC 07-01-2012 06:33 AM

Bump for your good cause

AdultKing 07-01-2012 06:45 AM

This should bring a smile to a few faces, let's hope now it's gone we can keep it gone.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filereact...hat-went-away/

File Reactor, now deceased. Payment through Paypal cut. Other measures taken to ensure if it comes back we can kill it quickly.

Tijuana_Tom 07-01-2012 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033429)
Listen , I've just about had enough of you. This is a serious thread related to killing file lockers only. Debate your little debates in your own thread.

If this thread is derailed by anyone else I'll just consider whether to pull the plug on keeping GFY informed and involved.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Shaddddaapppppppp AdultPhoney

candyflip 07-01-2012 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19033590)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Shaddddaapppppppp AdultPhoney

You suck at trolling. :1orglaugh

adultmobile 07-01-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033053)
Paypal usually hold funds during a review but will still process payments, it's only transfers and withdrawals that are affected. If Paypal kills an account then the balance is returned to the account holder after 180 days unless a court tells them otherwise.

Please discuss this stuff elsewhere, this thread is ONLY about closing down file lockers.

To stop file lockers the quick and effective way it is they lose biller so can't pay hosting and affiliates. While ccbill, segpay was quick in drop file lockers, PayPal it is not so quick. As example this filemates has PayPal only as option:

http://stopfilelockers.com/filemates...phy-and-music/

And they even reply in comments: "This is just a false and maybe competitors originated article.". They will reply the same to billers, if questioned. Even megaupload said they're like dropbox and youtube as defense, raising doubts and taking time.
It would be enough PayPal drops them , as their only biller... and maybe few others big in filelockers... so all this forums and blogs talk should simply have the scope to make PayPal (or other billers) unwilling to support file lockers at all, rather than try to make aware the final users that this is illegal sites as final users probably quite figured it out and are fine with that.

AdultKing 07-01-2012 07:09 AM

Personally I think Eric and Theo are asleep at the wheel, considering Tijuana_Tom's behavior on this board he should be booted :2 cents:

GFY tries to encourage serious business threads by giving away iPads yet allows them to be continually destroyed by fuckwits like this. (BTW: If this thread wins an iPad I want it donated to National Center for Missing & Exploited Children or The International Centre for Missing & Exploited Children)

Slappin Fish 07-01-2012 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033584)
This should bring a smile to a few faces, let's hope now it's gone we can keep it gone.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filereact...hat-went-away/

File Reactor, now deceased. Payment through Paypal cut. Other measures taken to ensure if it comes back we can kill it quickly.

Filereactor.com has been pretty much dead for over a month :2 cents:

AdultKing 07-01-2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19033601)
To stop file lockers the quick and effective way it is they lose biller so can't pay hosting and affiliates. While ccbill, segpay was quick in drop file lockers, PayPal it is not so quick. As example this filemates has PayPal only as option:

http://stopfilelockers.com/filemates...phy-and-music/

I can't go into details but because of other measures we are using behind the scenes it's sometimes necessary to keep them going for a little while. I obviously wont go into any detail about what those measures are as the file locker community is monitoring these threads and I don't want them to understand all of the processes involved.

Please be patient, every site we post at http://stopfilelockers.com is being dealt with.

AdultKing 07-01-2012 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 19033605)
Filereactor.com has been pretty much dead for over a month :2 cents:

They stopped paying affiliates for a while three months ago, however they re-emerged recently and were starting to pay again and file uploads were increasing. While they may have been in trouble, up until the site went down people could still download content from the site links. Now they can't.

DWB 07-01-2012 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexShark (Post 19033243)
You will probably now say that Captain America and Godzilla are already taking care of it underground

You'd be surprised what is happening underground. Just because it's not published, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Another bump for the cause.

AdultKing 07-01-2012 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB (Post 19033610)
You'd be surprised what is happening underground. Just because it's not published, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

:2 cents: DWB is correct. As if we're going to reveal all of our tactics to the bad guys. AlexShark is on other forums bagging our efforts as well. He must be an uploader or at least a supporter of illegal file hosting sites.

Thanks for the bump DWB :)

AllAboutCams 07-01-2012 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19033590)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Shaddddaapppppppp AdultPhoney

Your an annoying cunt :2 cents:

Tijuana_Tom 07-01-2012 07:24 AM

Get off your High Horse idiot. :2 cents:

AlexShark 07-01-2012 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19033617)
AlexShark is on other forums bagging our efforts as well

What other forums? I only commented your stopthingy site with some dropbox links to CP and WAREZ and you did not approved the comment of course.

Get a life before telling me I upload content, I am not even in adult because in the country where I live now is illegal to operate an adult site.
I got out of adult before tube sites (not file lockers) killed it, thanks God!

AdultKing 07-01-2012 07:51 AM

Update: FileGag.com is now down. We're not ready to claim a kill yet but it's looking good so far.

http://stopfilelockers.com/filegag-p...legal-content/

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/filegag.com

Tijuana_Tom 07-01-2012 08:01 AM

Why do you have soo many fake accounts liking Stopfilelockers on facebook?


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