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Jarmusch 12-30-2008 09:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 15261675)
:thumbsup Off my site and on to the affiliates FAST!

LOL I love this business- by the time you figure out what this newbs been doing - Ill be light years ahead of you!
Ok, that's nothing out of the ordinary, just kinda hard to guess what site it is if you only use it to redirect traffic to sponsors.

Wizzo 12-30-2008 09:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron2k1 (Post 15260677)
In the past year most of the old-timers have lost tons of traffic, only very few of them inovate. Most of them are just trying to survive as long as possible with their old dying business model
I don't know that I would use the word "most" as I know quite a number of oldtimers that are doing things now that made the old days look like peanuts. The difference is that since most new things aren't based on the affiliate model there's no reason to make public what they are doing.:winkwink:

Also, I agree that you never want to shit on newbs just because they are newbs as I've seen a number of them grow into whales over the years... :pimp

Darkland 12-30-2008 09:47 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Negro (Post 15260859)
post proof that I have stolen content or I will email the admins and inform them you are spreading baseless accusations about me on the board
Okay, the first two I can't show you because the threads got deleted but you were in them buddy buddy with an idiot who got banned named Stellar.

From this thread: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/872889-torrent-site-books.html

Notice the top two link? Those threads are gone but the ones below are not...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkland
Where have you been? I been blasting some dude named Stellar who openly admits he steals shit using torrents all the time.

Check these:
This one he tells you who to download it from...
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=867299

http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=872098

Advises everyone a HQ rip of Quantum of Solace is available on torrent
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/872482-quantum-solace-review.html

Here is wants confirmation that his actions are OK and this thread is
full of fucking thiefs.
http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/872667-honestly-downloaded-movie.html

Look at it like this... If you will steal for no gain, you will most assuredly steal FOR gain.
In this thread: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/874598-worst-porn-tubes-streaming-stolen-hollywood-movies.html
Titled: WORST THAN PORN TUBES streaming stolen hollywood movies

You tell us where to go to steal movies and the like:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Negro (Post 15169886)
www.ovguide.com - it lists that site and hundreds others

find any movie you want for free, I use it every night and run it through my entertainment system...it fuckinig ROCKS
In this thread: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/872544-whats-programs-graphic-designers.html

Titled: So whats programs do graphic designers use for the most part?

You admit to your enjoyment of stealing everything on torrents, fuck paying for shit right? isn't that what you said?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Negro (Post 15125194)
i fucking love using EVERYTHING torrent I can find, to the MAX

I have over $50k in software, at least 20 new release IN THEATRE movies and over 2000 unpaid for songs on this laptop alone

I still have a desktop with 2tb of storage that I am working on filling up at home

fuck paying for shit, you all take the high ground and spend that cash, I will be sure and honk when I am driving by in my new vespa scooter!
Go ahead and backpedal now, saying you were kidding, because it was obvious you were not... I am actually surprised you didn't get banned when Stellar did over his posts of admitting to stealing content, ie. movies, videos, songs, etc.

DatingGold 12-30-2008 11:09 AM
I'm a newb

Matt 26z 12-30-2008 11:19 AM
It is true that noobs bring a lot of good ideas to the table, but not because they have more talent.

1. All noobs are just taking shots in the dark at first. Most fail badly, but a few luck into something new that works well.

2. Experienced webmasters with a stable income do not want to change things and risk making less money.


It takes a couple years before a really good sponsor becomes saturated. Promo methods first talked about on the boards saw their peak ($ per webmaster doing it) at least a year or two prior. It really just comes down to a willingness to try new things.

Dirty D 12-30-2008 11:22 AM
This old timer loves newbies...

especially 18yo girls wanting to get a start in this biz :winkwink:


Every webmaster was a newbie once, we love them all and have paid on time since '99

Newbies make this bonus possible every year :thumbsup
http://howigotrich.com/images/million_dollars.jpg

Send us more traffic, it's converting great!

www.HowIgotrich.com

Tom_PM 12-30-2008 11:27 AM
I think director made a great post. It's like any business in the sense that some people are inherently good and fine to work with, while others... not so much. It's wrong to generalize whether it's to praise or punish. So keep your nose to the grindstone and your grains of salt handy and best of luck to you!
:pimp

RayVega 12-30-2008 12:41 PM
I always will consider myself a newbie...and I think a lot of the people who have been around and made success in this business do too. The minute you think you know it all or are invincible...blam, you are smoked. I for one will always be learning, asking "stupid questions", and always help the "up-and-coming". They are the life-blood of the American dream.

But a word of warning...don't let your motivation and determination turn into arrogance, they take away from your character and you risk becoming the very thing you hate (minus the success).
:thumbsup

tonyparra 12-31-2008 02:12 AM
Tell Me
 
I wish you would tell me your secret Sean I have been doing this shit for a year and im not even close:(

V_RocKs 12-31-2008 03:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 15258541)
Stop sleeping on Newbies!

Newbies evolve- while you older cats in the game still foster the same ideas, use the same systems, ploys and tactics. Making money only to waste it with trying to impress one another, spending more money and energies on unoriginal marketing ploys, un investigated advertising campaigns, and trying prove who's the biggest at the trade show.

While the newbies are poking away at new technologies- thinking bigger- better, faster-stronger. (1-2 people in a room doing the job of an entire staff)

It doesnt take an army to get rich anymore- Just 1 skilled mother fucker with a dream and a plan.


Before you know it you "Old Timers" are left in the wind- perplexed at how your sites have gone down 80% with no chance of resuscitation.

You can only continue to rob, manipulate, and extort from the newbies and ones with less know how and experienc before they catch on, and flip it on you. Then your business model is fucked! Who are you going to sell your unoriginal concepts to? And all the while- while your falling nobody will lend you a hand because you've fucked them all.

(Sort of like the US)

"Laugh- ohh no not me- Ohh that will never happen to me"


This is a warning to all you "Old Timers" and guys with 1,000,000 post on GFY.

The newbies are on the rise!... and they arent asking your permission for that #1 spot.... they're taking it!

$300,000 later and still a newb
$SeanLEE$
And you still use virtual hosting? Bitch please...........

nolongerexists 12-31-2008 04:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzo (Post 15261714)
I don't know that I would use the word "most" as I know quite a number of oldtimers that are doing things now that made the old days look like peanuts. The difference is that since most new things aren't based on the affiliate model there's no reason to make public what they are doing.:winkwink:
can anyone guess what are those 'things' that old-timers do nowadays? :1orglaugh

c _ _ _ _ - _ _ _ _ s






sorry couldnt help it :1orglaugh

Babaganoosh 12-31-2008 04:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarmusch (Post 15261646)
500K visitors a day and you only burn 5-6GB a day? what the hell kinda site is that?
That's MONTHLY. He's a little under 20K visitors a day. :1orglaugh

V_RocKs 12-31-2008 05:38 AM
Quote:
Xzye.com users come from these countries:
Germany25.0%
United States24.3%
Netherlands23.3%
Italy8.2%
United Kingdom4.2%
Worthless traffic...

Ethersync 12-31-2008 06:19 AM
While I admire your enthusiasm you should tone down the arrogance. It's much more impressive for a humble "newb" to come out of nowhere and become a huge success :2 cents:

Vixenator 12-31-2008 08:17 AM
I find reading a lot of stuff here, taking lots of notes and keeping my trap shut in public about what I'm doing and developing, to be a much better "n00b approach" to this industry... to each his own I guess. :winkwink:

Jarmusch 12-31-2008 08:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 15265016)
That's MONTHLY. He's a little under 20K visitors a day. :1orglaugh
Correct, somehow I thought i was looking at daily stats. So he was bragging about a 20k visitors a day site? lol..

But if he is sending those 20k clicks a day to sponsors as he said, then it's not too bad.

RogerV 12-31-2008 10:51 AM
Old timers didnt get where they are by being dumb. we all evolve and have many new ideas that are implemented.

if your a newb and work hard anyone can make money. its all about making it happen

12clicks 12-31-2008 11:25 AM
2 groups.
one has 10 noobs, the other 10 old timers.

you can put your money with one of them.

which one

saucygirl 12-31-2008 11:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 15258568)
i like newbies (virgins especially) :)
I guess based on the times I have participated in these threads I can be a virgin! I still smell like a newbie. Happy New Year!

tonyparra 12-31-2008 03:07 PM
Wow this post brung out out names i havent seen in a while maybe i should make a similar one to get some attention....

tony286 12-31-2008 03:14 PM
talking about painting everyone with one brush.

firecracker 12-31-2008 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lazycash (Post 15260169)
If being a newbie means making a thread bitching about how sexsearch hasn't paid you your $60 from two years ago, then I think I'll stick to being an old timer.
I THOUGHT that was this same guy! seems to still be angry over small shit. Lovely! Get over it. :disgust

GregE 12-31-2008 03:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 15258541)
Stop sleeping on Newbies!

Newbies evolve- while you older cats in the game still foster the same ideas, use the same systems, ploys and tactics. Making money only to waste it with trying to impress one another, spending more money and energies on unoriginal marketing ploys, un investigated advertising campaigns, and trying prove who's the biggest at the trade show.

While the newbies are poking away at new technologies- thinking bigger- better, faster-stronger. (1-2 people in a room doing the job of an entire staff)

It doesnt take an army to get rich anymore- Just 1 skilled mother fucker with a dream and a plan.


Before you know it you "Old Timers" are left in the wind- perplexed at how your sites have gone down 80% with no chance of resuscitation.

You can only continue to rob, manipulate, and extort from the newbies and ones with less know how and experienc before they catch on, and flip it on you. Then your business model is fucked! Who are you going to sell your unoriginal concepts to? And all the while- while your falling nobody will lend you a hand because you've fucked them all.

(Sort of like the US)

"Laugh- ohh no not me- Ohh that will never happen to me"


This is a warning to all you "Old Timers" and guys with 1,000,000 post on GFY.

The newbies are on the rise!... and they arent asking your permission for that #1 spot.... they're taking it!

$300,000 later and still a newb
$SeanLEE$
Your xzye.com sign-up form is fucking broken.

All it does is spit out "Error wrong promotion code" messages.

You might want to fix that before you move on to anything "bigger- better" and "faster-stronger" :2 cents:


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