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AdultEUhost 06-12-2012 06:38 PM

CCbill - You're processing for "illegal materials" on filefactory
 
I thought to be fair and give CCBill an email about this prior to making this thread so they could act on it, after all the goal is to get these filelockers without billing instead of talking bad about ccbill.

So I sent the screenshots and full links to Tom Fisher of CCBill.
In return I got a nice email stating that if I was sending them information about underage models, it would be illegal for me to do so and they are going to report me to the FBI.

Let's hope the power of GFY can do more then a single individual.

My Email:

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Hi Thomas,

In regards to the recent piracy and child-porn related websites, here are a few more.

Screenshots are attached.
Full links include [NOT FOR PUBLISHING] and [NOT FOR PUBLISHING] for example

They process through CCBill.
I hope you can put this to a stop, if you need any additional information, feel free to contact me.

Leon

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In return I got:

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If what you are sending me is underage models, please be advised that it is Illegal for you to do so and we will as always report it to the FBI and the Cyber Tip line which is what you should do instead of sending emails.

Tom fisher

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http://www.adulteuhost.com/files/img...2/filefac2.jpg

http://www.adulteuhost.com/files/img...2/filefac3.jpg

http://www.adulteuhost.com/files/img...2/filefac1.jpg

HighlyIntoxicated 06-12-2012 06:41 PM

Looks like gfy is going to have to post a thread about every file locker site using ccbill before anything is done.

What a fucking response from Tom. It's about time someone reported him and his company to the fbi for processing cp.


I wonder if some of the higher ups in ccbill own these file lockers..

BlackCrayon 06-12-2012 06:43 PM

file lockers are widely used by pedo's...anyone in the biz knows this and so does ccbill. fucking disgusting..

HighlyIntoxicated 06-12-2012 06:45 PM

I bet it'd be great for ccbill if this info was sent to news station that do special interest pieces, such as Anderson Cooper.

AdultEUhost 06-12-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated (Post 19001649)
I bet it'd be great for ccbill if this info was sent to news station that do special interest pieces, such as Anderson Cooper.

Well great start for AVN or Xbiz I would say

TheSenator 06-12-2012 06:47 PM

Waiting for the official canned statement.....

It seems like CCBill is making a shit load of cash before exiting....

Konda 06-12-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlyIntoxicated (Post 19001649)
I bet it'd be great for ccbill if this info was sent to news station that do special interest pieces, such as Anderson Cooper.

No, because there are 100s or even 1000s of hardworking honest webmasters that use CCBILL to make a living.

I think the only way to go is to continue with what's being done now. A new thread with proof of cp references for every filelocker site that uses ccbill and people threatening to report it to visa/mastercard. It seems to work.

BlackCrayon 06-12-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konda (Post 19001657)
No, because there are 100s or even 1000s of hardworking honest webmasters that use CCBILL to make a living.

I think the only way to go is to continue with what's being done now. A new thread with proof of cp references for every filelocker site that uses ccbill and people threatening to report it to visa/mastercard. It seems to work.

yeah and once people think they've 'won' and move on to something else, they'll probably take them right back again.

CamTata 06-12-2012 06:56 PM

[QUOTE=AdultEUhost;19001634]
If what you are sending me is underage models, please be advised that it is Illegal for you to do so and we will as always report it to the FBI and the Cyber Tip line which is what you should do instead of sending emails.

Tom fisher


One wonders how someone so dimwitted got hire in the first place. I am glad to see the Peter Principle is alive and well.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

spunky99 06-12-2012 07:02 PM

http://fotozup.com/wp-content/upload...facepalm06.jpg

adendreams 06-12-2012 07:06 PM

Hi CCbill! We know you're reading this - have a nice day!

looky_lou 06-12-2012 07:10 PM

Nice to see CCbill is so open to getting information that will help them protect their business with Visa and MC.

Pathetic.

AdultEUhost 06-12-2012 07:12 PM

For what's it worth, all of these sites are hosted with leaseweb

Uploaded.to
Filefactory.com
Megaupload.com
Oron.com

papill0n 06-12-2012 07:14 PM

ccbill is gonna go down - you can fucking guarantee it

Tjeezers 06-12-2012 07:30 PM

Fuck them... If i associate myself with these scumbags, I am nothing better then the asshole who uses them to cash in on this sick thing.

I am so happy I do not have pay sites running on CCbill I would throw up instantly!!

RyuLion 06-12-2012 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 19001693)
ccbill is gonna go down - you can fucking guarantee it

and if/when they do, tons of people are gonna..
http://scienceinseconds.com/cmsFiles...-crying-21.jpg

sandman! 06-12-2012 07:35 PM

:(:(:(:(:(:(

Major (Tom) 06-12-2012 07:35 PM

well at least you know you buy some questionable content & ccbill will aid you in disputing your chargeback. I'm a glass half full kind of guy.
ds

shake 06-12-2012 07:36 PM

As I use CCBill for my paysites, I'm glad they've been shutting down these sites billing so quickly, but I really think it's time they take a serious look at shutting down ALL of their filelocker sites billing before it gets posted on GFY.

signupdamnit 06-12-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 19001655)
Waiting for the official canned statement.....

It seems like CCBill is making a shit load of cash before exiting....

I hate to say it but that's what I'm thinking too. It's like the floodgates opened in the last couple months on processing for these sites. They also have a very successful hosting business. I wouldn't be surprised to see a sale if it hasn't already happened.

Brujah 06-12-2012 07:47 PM

lol @ CCBill Tom.

Yes, guys.. please remember it is illegal to send CCBill links to sites that they are processing for.

signupdamnit 06-12-2012 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by papill0n (Post 19001693)
ccbill is gonna go down - you can fucking guarantee it

I wonder if the CCBill upper management looks good in pink underwear?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#Pink_underwear

You couldn't pay me enough to process for a file locker while residing in that man's jurisdiction. No fucking way. I think they've gone nuts.

T34K1DD 06-12-2012 07:55 PM

Wow... Tom is an ass hat

AaronM 06-12-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultEUhost (Post 19001634)
Hi Thomas,

In regards to the recent piracy and child-porn related websites, here are a few more.

Screenshots are attached.
Full links include [NOT FOR PUBLISHING] and [NOT FOR PUBLISHING] for example

They process through CCBill.
I hope you can put this to a stop, if you need any additional information, feel free to contact me.

Leon

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In return I got:

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If what you are sending me is underage models, please be advised that it is Illegal for you to do so and we will as always report it to the FBI and the Cyber Tip line which is what you should do instead of sending emails.

Tom fisher


IMHO, you are being an asshole. :2 cents:

Here's why...

Your email said it was about CP & contained screen shots which were not meant for publishing etc... Any reasonable person would think twice before opening the screen cap attachments after receiving an email like this. Clearly Tom didn't open them. Instead, he replied to you and stated "If what you are sending me...." He then went on to tell you the proper way to report the site in question.

At this point you had the option to reply to him and tell him that the screen caps in fact do not contain CP. Instead you came here and starting bitching about CCBill.

Had your email been more clear as to the contents of the attachments or had you replied and assured Tom that they were not of CP images, I'll bet you would have received a different response.

Quit being a dick and learn how to communicate properly.

NaughtyRob 06-12-2012 08:19 PM

I agree with this. :2 cents:
Give them a chance before "reporting" them here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 19001803)
IMHO, you are being an asshole. :2 cents:

Here's why...

Your email said it was about CP & contained screen shots which were not meant for publishing etc... Any reasonable person would think twice before opening the screen cap attachments after receiving an email like this. Clearly Tom didn't open them. Instead, he replied to you and stated "If what you are sending me...." He then went on to tell you the proper way to report the site in question.

At this point you had the option to reply to him and tell him that the screen caps in fact do not contain CP. Instead you came here and starting bitching about CCBill.

Had your email been more clear as to the contents of the attachments or had you replied and assured Tom that they were not of CP images, I'll bet you would have received a different response.

Quit being a dick and learn how to communicate properly.


RyuLion 06-12-2012 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 19001803)
IMHO, you are being an asshole. :2 cents:

Here's why...

Your email said it was about CP & contained screen shots which were not meant for publishing etc... Any reasonable person would think twice before opening the screen cap attachments after receiving an email like this. Clearly Tom didn't open them. Instead, he replied to you and stated "If what you are sending me...." He then went on to tell you the proper way to report the site in question.

At this point you had the option to reply to him and tell him that the screen caps in fact do not contain CP. Instead you came here and starting bitching about CCBill.

Had your email been more clear as to the contents of the attachments or had you replied and assured Tom that they were not of CP images, I'll bet you would have received a different response.

Quit being a dick and learn how to communicate properly.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Fat Panda 06-12-2012 08:43 PM

ccbill is pathetic, this stuff is indefensible

signupdamnit 06-12-2012 09:09 PM

Quote:

ASACP Attends Phoenix Forum, CCBill Becomes Newest Corporate Sponsor

LOS ANGELES (April 12, 2012) ? The Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection (ASACP), is excited to announce that it has once again participated in The Phoenix Forum, held from March 29 to April 1, in Tempe, Ariz.; and that Forum host CCBill has become its newest Corporate Sponsor.

Returning to the Tempe Mission Palms hotel, The Phoenix Forum is a three-day event that provides adult webmasters and service providers from around the world with a wide variety of networking, educational and promotional opportunities.

Supporting more than 32,000 websites since 1998, CCBill?s online processing services provide a full-featured, ready-to-use solution that gets websites selling quickly and easily.

http://www.asacp.com/index.php?conte...porate+Sponsor

I missed the news. Congratulations to CCBill and the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection (ASACP) for CCBill recently becoming a corporate sponsor in April.

L-Pink 06-12-2012 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 19001754)
lol @ CCBill Tom.

Yes, guys.. please remember it is illegal to send CCBill links to sites that they are processing for.

:Oh crap

.

ninavain 06-12-2012 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tjeezers (Post 19001718)
Fuck them... If i associate myself with these scumbags, I am nothing better then the asshole who uses them to cash in on this sick thing.

I am so happy I do not have pay sites running on CCbill I would throw up instantly!!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Brad Mitchell 06-12-2012 09:19 PM

Toms reaction sounds probably much more horrible than it actually was. Leon did the right thing and kudos to him. We need to balance this with red flags going up - policy, procedure and US law. If any email like that came into MojoHost myself and business partner would have been alerted and our legal counsel Corey Silverstein would have reported to Missing and Exploited Children the URL, any evidence would have been preserved, online access removed all in some sort of order. Counsel also would have handled all of our communication to authorities and our customer. Leon and everyone you have to realize that the reality of such complaints scares the shit out of everyone, employees and owners alike.

While Toms response didn't include a thank you or any other detailed information about what might potentially have been all of their next steps or work in progress, I have a hard time believing that a proper response wouldn't have followed and unbeknownst to any notifying party. I sure hope so, anyway. I'm seeing all of these threads and still scratching my head about how they made it through initial or ongoing compliance.

Good work, Leon. I'm just baffled by the existence of all this. Whatever policies didn't keep these web sites away I am sincerely hopeful that they are discovered and completely shut down by every billing and hosting company that facilitates their existence.

What are the laws in the EU or Holland which would render that web host responsible for ceasing service? What authority is supposed to get notified? Perhaps Tim from ASACP can shed some light on the subject.

Brad

ninavain 06-12-2012 09:27 PM

something don't smell right

rowan 06-12-2012 09:29 PM

Question. If Visa and MC are so anal about specific content on an adult paysite, why on earth are they allowing processing for a site that has ANY and ALL types of content on it?

L-Pink 06-12-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 19001890)
Question. If Visa and MC are so anal about specific content on an adult paysite, why on earth are they allowing processing for a site that has ANY and ALL types of content on it?

They would shit if they saw the screen captures of their logos as payment options for cp.

.

rowan 06-12-2012 09:33 PM

QUIZ TIME!

1) The chance of finding CP or other illegal content on an adult paysite.......

2) The chance of finding CP or other illegal content on a file locker site........

Which do you think is more probable?

brassmonkey 06-12-2012 09:34 PM

somebody is going to get banned

L-Pink 06-12-2012 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 19001893)
QUIZ TIME!

1) The chance of finding CP or other illegal content on an adult paysite.......

2) The chance of finding CP or other illegal content on a file locker site........

Which do you think is more probable?

The chance of finding CP on a user submitted porn site would the highest.

.

V_RocKs 06-12-2012 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19001900)
The chance of finding CP on a user submitted porn site would the highest.

.

true dat

EukerVoorn 06-12-2012 11:57 PM

Awesome post Leon. Seems that the good peeps in this industry aren't taking the shit anymore and finally showing their teeth :)
I'm glad I don't use CCBill. Wouldn't want to have any links with a company so openly processing payments for child pornography sites.

JosephFM 06-13-2012 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19001755)
I wonder if the CCBill upper management looks good in pink underwear?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio#Pink_underwear

You couldn't pay me enough to process for a file locker while residing in that man's jurisdiction. No fucking way. I think they've gone nuts.

http://i.imgur.com/B7GxV.jpg

http://www.mcso.org/


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